#wordpress 2020-03-03

2020-03-03 UTC
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[jgmac1106]
gwg I would remove the microformats 2 plugin from the IndieWeb PlugIn install...
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GWG
!tell [jgmac1106] That sparked a disagreement last time
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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[jgmac1106]
gwg is the plugin maintained? necessary? with WP advice being use an IW theme,,,not sure a plugin that doesn't work should be included in the set
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GWG
I voted for the plugin to go, as did pfefferle
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[jgmac1106]
You are the only two who maintain any plugins you get all votes
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[jgmac1106]
Any redesign of that plugin needs to start Gutenberg first
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[Michael_Beckwit
i’m slowly but surely trying to help with maintenance as well
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GWG
How would you do that Gutenberg first?
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GWG
I asked around re that
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[grantcodes]
I looked into mf2 in Gutenberg and there are definitely possibilities there, but needs a lot of thinking out.
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[Michael_Beckwit
cynical me says the gutenberg devs didn’t think/care about microformats enough to make it easy at all to get them in, by ui or by hammer
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[grantcodes]
Like you can quite easily wrap posts with `h-entry` then create blocks that map to various properties, then set up those blocks in a predefined layout for different post types.
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[Michael_Beckwit
it’s already difficult enough at times to keep classes on markup for webmentions
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GWG
Yes. This is why I've sort of delayed on solving the problem
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[grantcodes]
Microformats is just very difficult to use in any cms that has theming. I don't blame WordPress 🤷‍♂️
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[grantcodes]
Another option since gutenberg is much more parsable inside wp is you could probably generate a mf2 object from core blocks and output that as hidden content (generally bad practice I know).
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GWG
So, the mf2-feed plugin.
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[grantcodes]
And there are a lot of little intricacies like how do you decide if a photo is part of content or a photo property 🤷‍♂️
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GWG
[grantcodes]: That came up in Austin, I believe
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GWG
I think it was content overrides photo property
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[grantcodes]
Yeah but specifically in gutenberg. It would be very easy to make a photo or multiphoto post with the built in blocks and in a variety of ways. But without any mf2 obviously
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GWG
Yes, this is what keeps stopping me
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[grantcodes]
Oh the other one that I couldn't really figure out when looking at it (maybe because of poor mf2 knowledge) was around content. Basically every paragraph block (and a few more) should count as content in mf2 but I think it then ends up with html structured in a way that is not really conducive to mf2
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GWG
[grantcodes]: My decision was to take some items out of the equation
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[grantcodes]
In what way?
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GWG
[grantcodes]: I'm going to move my bookmarks and other citations to a custom post type.
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[grantcodes]
Oh right yeah, I saw that
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GWG
[grantcodes]: That has some advantages.
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GWG
Although I suppose eventually even custom post types will use the block editor
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[grantcodes]
Yeah, already do.
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[grantcodes]
Maybe not by default though
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[grantcodes]
I think a lot of custom post types also are unnecessary because of blocks and block templates too
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GWG
[grantcodes]: But does something that stores URLs and data about them need to be a block?
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[grantcodes]
I think the general rule is if it displays the data on the frontend and it's not used in some meta way (like grouping or searching posts) it should probably be a block.
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GWG
I'm planning on not having this display on the frontend exactl
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GWG
I'm picturing it more like an attachment
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