#wordpress 2020-05-05

2020-05-05 UTC
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[KevinMarks] https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2020/05/a-small-accessibility-improvement-to-wordpress/
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GWG Cal:If you have any other questions, I contribute to both the Micropub and the IndieAuth plugins
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cal Thanks GWG!
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cal How does indieauth.com get authorization from wordpress.com?
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GWG It doesn't.
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GWG IndieAuth.com can't do that.
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cal So, I'm logged in to my wordpress.com site
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GWG Simple summary explanation
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GWG It's a WordPress.com site?
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cal and then a client uses https://indieauth.com/auth to get authorization
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cal I guess indieauth.com redirects to wordpress.com or something?
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GWG The URL is?
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cal yes, I just set this for testing: https://pokemongoers.wpcomstaging.com/
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GWG Cal: Can you install plugins on the main site?
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GWG I know wordpress.com, unlike self-hosted, limits that
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cal I had to upgrade to a biz paid account
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GWG So, IndieAuth.com is a reference implementation of IndieAuth the protocol
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GWG You don't need IndieAuth.com for Micropub to work
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cal and then when I tried to install the plugin, it said the domain pokemongoers.wordpress.com had to be renamed to pokemongers.wpcomstaging.com
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GWG If you install Micropub by itself, it uses IndieAuth.com. If you install the IndieAuth plugin, it turns your site into an IndieAuth endpoint, so nothing external is needed
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cal so I've got micropub plugin installed on https://pokemongoers.wpcomstaging.com/
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GWG Yes. Try the second plugin as well. That eliminates the need for using indieauth.com
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cal and via curl I see: curl -I https://pokemongoers.wpcomstaging.com/ HTTP/2 200 server: nginx date: Tue, 05 May 2020 21:48:04 GMT content-type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 vary: Accept-Encoding host-header: WordPress.com vary: Cookie link: <https://pokemongoers.wpcomstaging.com/wp-json/micropub/1.0/media>; rel="micropub_media" link: <https://pokemongoers.wpcomstaging.com/wp-json/micropub/1.0/endpoint>; rel="micropub" link:
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cal <https://indieauth.com/auth>; rel="authorization_endpoint" link: <https://tokens.indieauth.com/token>; rel="token_endpoint" link: <https://pokemongoers.wpcomstaging.com/wp-json/>; rel="https://api.w.org/" link: <https://wp.me/766Bd>; rel=shortlink x-ac: 2.sjc _atomic_bur strict-transport-security: max-age=15552000; includeSubDomains; preload
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GWG If you want to use indieauth.com, you need to set up something called relmeauth.
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cal so the end point is set up
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GWG Cal: Just a pointer to a remote endpoint
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GWG If you want to use your WordPress login, you need https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieauth
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Loqi [IndieWebCamp WordPress Outreach Club] Description The plugin turns WordPress into an IndieAuth endpoint. This can be used to act as an authentication mechanism for WordPress and its REST API, as well as an identity mechanism for other sites. It uses the URL from the profile page to iden...
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cal so, this won't actually allow me to publish to the wordpress.com site?
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GWG Micropub does publishing.
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GWG IndieAuth is authentication
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GWG Micropub needs IndieAuth to get a token to post to your site
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GWG None of the Micropub clients want your username and password
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cal can I get the token from https://indieauth.com/auth ?
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cal (even tho' it's really a wordpress.com site?)
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cal As context, I'm trying to write a client for micropub, and just trying to figure out
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cal if I did have the client, what are the steps I would users of my client how they can use the client to publish to wordpress.com
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GWG Micropub is fairly simple. It just needs a token to get permission
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aaronpk I forget the limitations on wordpress.com, is it possible to install plugins at all?
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cal right I tried all the steps manually through micropub.rocks
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cal so I think I know micropub itself pretty well
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cal but just confused how with a micropub client, a user can practically use it to publish to a wordpress.com site
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cal @aaronpk, yes, I paid a trial $300 to upgrade https://pokemongoers.wpcomstaging.com/
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cal and then installed the micropub plugin (I think successfully, at least from Curl)
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aaronpk ah wow!
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aaronpk let me see if there are any wiki pages that explain this
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cal most of threadreaderapp users want to publish to wordpress.com, so I figured I should get at least that use case right
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aaronpk well i'm not seeing much that's terribly helpful, i was looking at https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress#Micropub and https://indieweb.org/Getting_Started_on_WordPress#IndieAuth_Plugin
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aaronpk but, the more straightforward setup path is to install both the indieauth and micropub plugins, then you shouldn't ever see indieauth.com in the mix
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cal ah, ok, so install IndieAuth to use wordpress.com endpoints, and then the Micropub plugin
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cal I'll try that thanks!
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aaronpk yep! or more specifically, install IndieAuth to use wordpress' built in login. it's not specific to wordpress.com
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cal ah, got it!
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cal sorry, I've been so slow on implementing this... had a few Twitter related fires to squelch!
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aaronpk i can imagine
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