#wordpress 2021-03-14
2021-03-14 UTC
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[tw2113_Slack_] i already released version 1.1.0 of my blogroll plugin. i added live preview and some other small things
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# [tw2113_Slack_] It's beautiful. https://github.com/tw2113/apiratelifeforme/commit/9889eb48a3ca4cd990c005dcaa22b1d2d0af1373
# [tw2113_Slack_] I can now post started reading, finished reading, and current page updates to twitter, via my own website, and piggy backing on to the WP To Twitter plugin.
# [tw2113_Slack_] had to buy the pro one, but then realized internally it was just conditionally fetching Twitter API creds from either user meta or general options, and i could have wired that up myself.
# [tw2113_Slack_] BUT then I was like "I'm already piggy backing off of Joe's hard work, so I am happy to send over $50 to him"
# [tw2113_Slack_] regardless, i can now disconnect the status update cross posting on GoodReads now, which only did "current page" updates, and not started/finished
# [tw2113_Slack_] anyways, it's pseudo 4am cause of daylight saving time, so i'm going to bed
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[chrisaldrich] [tw2113_Slack_]++ for some fun looking late night progress
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# [tw2113_Slack_] [chrisaldrich] presently trying to think of some interesting ways to use the blogroll functionality and output besides just an unordered list of links
# [chrisaldrich] The original had a taxonomy which lets you output lists by category as well... so you can have subscriptions by headings... maybe I'm interested in your "IndieWeb" follows and not so much your local news.
# [chrisaldrich] Or display of these sub-categories on particular archive pages?
# [tw2113_Slack_] output by category is still very well in place
# [tw2113_Slack_] https://michaelbox.net/site-roll/
# [tw2113_Slack_] i made a "Coworkers" category last night
# [chrisaldrich] they also had a field with a number so you could rank them, but I've only ever used that on a fairly limited basis.
# [tw2113_Slack_] yep, rating i'm mulling over
# [tw2113_Slack_] there's an RSS field that i believe will output an RSS icon or similar next to the listing
# [tw2113_Slack_] provide an image, and it'll use that instead of the link name
# [tw2113_Slack_] i'm kind of thinking about common sections i see on websites where I can say "links manager could handle that"
# [chrisaldrich] I've seen some people use it as a bookmarks manager, but it seems somewhat underpowered for those use cases.
# [tw2113_Slack_] i think most would find it getting unwieldy fairly quickly
# [tw2113_Slack_] your blogroll page would too to get that moved into this
# [tw2113_Slack_] unless it got scripted somehow
# [chrisaldrich] I do have several hundred entries in my blogroll that aren't displayed because they're either dead or I really don't follow them anymore (or I choose not to show some as "private")
# [chrisaldrich] That might be a nice feature to add that the original didn't. The ability to hide them more easily than the original.
# [chrisaldrich] there is the private checkbox, but there are a few instances where I'm hiding chunks of output by entire categories.
# [tw2113_Slack_] there is a "Keep this link private" checkbox that will be respected when "hide invisible" is used
# [tw2113_Slack_] beat me to it
# [chrisaldrich] when you have a category with hundreds that you want to switch off, it's not very easy (no simple UI anyway) to flip that bit on all of them at once.
# [tw2113_Slack_] true
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# [chrisaldrich] The original also wasn't very good at outputting images. It would be nice if it could fetch an original photo, store it and resize it to an appropriate size.
# [chrisaldrich] Mine currently transcludes an original from third party locations and resizes it in css. I have issues with images disappearing too frequently.
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# [tw2113_Slack_] hmm
# [chrisaldrich] If you wanted to go an extra step or two, you could also add data fields for addresses (work/home), phone numbers, emails, etc. and make it a general contact product too.
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# [tw2113_Slack_] trying to avoid going into overextending too much, which is both a good and bad thing
# [chrisaldrich] going the contact route does open up a rather large can of worms...
# [chrisaldrich] a flexible taxonomy added to it could also give you a version of Google circle-type functionality
# [chrisaldrich] Maybe you could use the XFN friends for some of this?
# [chrisaldrich] What is XFN friends?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "XFN friends" yet. Would you like to create it? (Or just say "XFN friends is ____", a sentence describing the term)
# [tw2113_Slack_] wouldn't mind delving into that topic a little bit, as that one is sadly very foreign in 2021
# [tw2113_Slack_] people won't know why they'd want to use that section of a given link
# [chrisaldrich] What is XFN
# Loqi XFN (XHTML Friends Network) is the network of visible links across blogs that claim various XFN relationships with/to each other https://indieweb.org/XFN
# [chrisaldrich] I wonder if there's a way to also use this to dovetail with Vouch too? I don't think anyone has built any significant Vouch pieces for WordPress. Though I seem to recall GWG maybe tinkered with some of the pieces in the past.
# [tw2113_Slack_] i was wrong, the RSS field doesn't get shown with the link, or at least it doesn't any more
# [chrisaldrich] I do have many in my database that don't have RSS feeds defined. It would be nice to have an indicator for it, even if it were an RSS icon wrapped in the URL, or even better a subscribe button wired into SubToMe.com to make it easier for others to follow people from your list.
# [chrisaldrich] The other piece I always wanted was a bookmarklet I could click on while on someone's page that would parse it for details for adding into my blogroll more quickly. GWG's parse this tool could probably do most of the heavy lifting for this.
# [tw2113_Slack_] the only place i'm seeing the db column for that value used is in wp-links-opml.php which is just a url you can hit to get OPML structured output
# [chrisaldrich] There aren't very many OPML tools out there outside of Dave Winer's group. But most now use the OPML v2 and WP is still stuck with OPML v1 iirc. That might be worth an update too if you're doing OPML outputs.
# [tw2113_Slack_] wasn't planning on it, i'm just digging around core
# [tw2113_Slack_] not looking like wordpress specifically, but it's definitely unique
# [tw2113_Slack_] anyways, i need to relocate. thanks for bouncing ideas and thoughts around with me Chris
# [chrisaldrich] blogroll << https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/01/28/unique-blogroll-periodic-table-of-blogs/ example with output as a periodic table
# Loqi ok, I added "https://lorelle.wordpress.com/2006/01/28/unique-blogroll-periodic-table-of-blogs/ example with output as a periodic table" to the "See Also" section of /blogroll https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?diff=74880&oldid=74237
# [chrisaldrich] when you find examples like that, you definitely have to save them....
# [chrisaldrich] good luck Michael
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[jeremycherfas] Crikey! I remember Lorelle’s tips from the early days.
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