#wordpress 2021-09-03

2021-09-03 UTC
maxwelljoslyn[d], [snarfed]1, jeremycherfas, Loqi, DavidWeekes[m], adi1, _Murray[d], _lahacker[d], rattroupe[d], kimberlyhirsh[d], petermolnar, wackycity[d] and [Matt_Maldre] joined the channel
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[Matt_Maldre]
Hi, I’m new to IndieWeb. I’ve long heard [chrisaldrich] sing praises about it; and I love the concepts of IndieWeb. I have four Wordpress sites where I’ll will be installing IndieWeb. For now I selected one my lower traffic sites (57hits.com) to see how this works.
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[Matt_Maldre]
My username on indieweb.org is now “*Www.57hits.com_author_mattmaldre*”. https://indieweb.org/User:Www.57hits.com_author_mattmaldre
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[Matt_Maldre]
A few questions:
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[Matt_Maldre]
I installed the “IndieWeb” plugin. Then I installed the “IndieAuth” plugin.
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[Matt_Maldre]
1. Is that a normal username? I’d imagine it should be something like mattmaldre.
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[Matt_Maldre]
2. Is it possible to change my username?
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[Matt_Maldre]
3. Since I have multiple websites, will I have four usernames? Or can I have just one username for all four sites?
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rattroupe[d]
That’s one of my pet peeves with IndieAuth, I wrote a rant about it here: https://blog.reiterate.app/software/2021/08/26/thoughts-on-indieauth-profile-urls/
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[Matt_Maldre]
I’ll give that a read now. Thank you.
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rattroupe[d]
You’re not the first person to be confused by this. To answer your questions…
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rattroupe[d]
1. It’s normal for indieauth.
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rattroupe[d]
2. You can’t pick your username, but there’s a setting for the plug-in to let you just use the domain, IE, 57hits.com
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rattroupe[d]
3. You will have the domain of whatever site you use to login. But you’ll stay logged in with that site/id. So pick one and just don’t login from another
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rattroupe[d]
I really need to write up my proposal to fix this for indieauth
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GWG
[Matt_Maldre]: Go to Indieweb in the admin, and the IndieAuth tab and set the user you want to be the prime user
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[Matt_Maldre]
oh that’s cool!
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GWG
With WordPress, only one user can represent the root url, everyone else is /author/username
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GWG
In IndieAuth, your identity is your URL
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GWG
So, the wiki uses it as your username
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GWG
WordPress could use a custom url, like /user/username, but...
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rattroupe[d]
Well you motivated me to write up my proposal
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aaronpk
going to ask some followup questions in #indieweb-meta specific to the wiki use case
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GWG
[Matt_Maldre]: Anything else re WordPress I can help with?
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[Matt_Maldre]
When I go to install IndieWeb on my other Wordpress sites, do I use the IndieAuth again to create a new user? Or do I somehow use the existing “*Www.57hits.com_author_mattmaldre*”?
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[Matt_Maldre]
(and thank you for your help, it’s really nice!)
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GWG
[Matt_Maldre]: So, you want to delegate your user on one instance for the other instances?
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GWG
That is a proposed future feature
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[Matt_Maldre]
Ahhh, so for now I’ll a unique user on each of my four sites?
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GWG
[Matt_Maldre]: You usually do without IndieAuth on WordPress
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GWG
The feature in question wouldn't change the need for a user on each site, it would just link them
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GWG
[Matt_Maldre]: You only need one identity in the wiki
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GWG
And if you use Micropub, which requires IndieAuth, that's to log into a specific site to post to that site
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[Matt_Maldre]
ah, the username on the wiki is not central for the IndieWeb identity on my sites. I thought maybe the IndieWeb wiki was some sort of central location that connects the pieces together.
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aaronpk
that wouldn't be very indie would it :)
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GWG
No it's just when you use a site to log onto the wiki, it uses your url as your wiki username
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GWG
So I mentioned you can use the root domain
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GWG
And I will try to default it
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[chrisaldrich]
oddly I don't spend much time thinking about the representation of my identity on the wiki in particular... it's my name in chat that seems to be the bigger piece in my experience.
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GWG
[chrisaldrich]: Good point
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aaronpk
it'd be very cool to sign in to slack with IndieAuth but that would only be possible if we had their Business plan :)
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[chrisaldrich]
Do they support IndieAuth if one wanted to sign in with it?! Or you're saying we'd need a business plan to be able to build the integration into it and do all that extra work and _*then*_ we'd be able to sign in that way?
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aaronpk
yea via openid connect
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GWG
aaronpk: Is IndieAuth compatible with openid connect?
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GWG
I have not researched it much. Probably should
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aaronpk
it would be a translation layer but it wouldn't take much
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[chrisaldrich]
Maybe we (and by we, I selfishly and rudely mean anyone but me 😁) could offer helping them add IndieAuth natively? Adoption by Slack could be some interesting awesomeness...
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[chrisaldrich]
backs away rapidly....
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aaronpk
they've made it clear they are not interested in being a tool for open communities so i suspect that is not going to happen
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GWG
aaronpk: Slack alternative?
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