#wordpress 2021-10-14

2021-10-14 UTC
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[Ed_Beck] I’m running WordPress 5.8.1 using the Astra theme on ed-beck.com. I have the IndieWeb plugin and the Webmention plugins enabled.
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[Ed_Beck] However, when I try to connect twitter via brid.gy I get this error: “_You need webmention support. Here are some resources. If you’re on WordPress, try the IndieWeb bundle plugin. If you’re on Blogger, Tumblr, or WordPress.com, sign up here!_”
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[Ed_Beck] Are there any troubleshooting steps I should try?
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GWG [Ed_Beck]: What page are you trying to POSSE?
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[Ed_Beck] https://ed-beck.com/projects/
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[Ed_Beck] I think…
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[Ed_Beck] I thought I would just try to make anything work first, and then eventually create a category that I would POSSE, so I could just use the category feed.
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GWG A category doesn't have the webmention header
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[chrisaldrich] I was going to say that I didn't see a header there either...
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[Ed_Beck] the projects page is my default wordpress blog page.
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GWG [Ed_Beck]: Did you set that in the settings for homepage redirect?
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[chrisaldrich] Just to double check by "blog" page you mean that the /projects page is both your home page as well as the page to which new posts are added in reverse chronological order? (The home page and the "blog" page can potentially be two different things.)
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[Ed_Beck] I have my homepage set as a static page, and then I have a seperate page ed-beck.com/projects that is set as my blog page?
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[Ed_Beck] Is that a problem?
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GWG [Ed_Beck]: In what context are you going to link externally to your blog page though?
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GWG Webmention headers are on URLs that can receive them. Your blog page is an archive page.
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[chrisaldrich] That should be fine Ed... I was confused by the conflation of "projects" with "blog" and GWGs mention about category pages.
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GWG If you want it on all pages regardless, there is a flag for it
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GWG define( 'WEBMENTION_ALWAYS_SHOW_HEADERS', 1 );
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GWG That will show it on all pages, webmentions to archive URLs will just go nowhere
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[Ed_Beck] I don’t need to make my life more difficult. What’s the most straightforward setup?
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GWG Well, [Ed_Beck], we're still back to use case
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GWG Do you want to be notified when someone links to /projects ?
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[chrisaldrich] I've sorted of wanted something like that in the past GWG, but at the end of the day I'd end up having/wanting to manually reassign them to some other page somewhere.
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GWG If so, you can enable it, but if it doesn't have a page associated with it that can accept WordPress comments, we have nowhere to put the webmentions
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: It's doable for any page, you just again, have to map it to a page. I had this idea a while back to create a custom post type that was hidden to deal with the issue, but it was a niche ask
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[chrisaldrich] [Ed_Beck] From what I see, it appears that you're set up, but you'd be better off testing a standalone post page like https://ed-beck.com/open-educational-resources/open-pedagogy/tips-for-creating-with-wordpress/
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[chrisaldrich] That page will have the correct header that Brid.gy would expect. Though for home page webmentions you might want to change that setting to a discrete page rather than an "archive" or "blog" page. An about page might make sense. In my case I created a specific "mentions" page: https://boffosocko.com/mentions/
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I still want a better option in future
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[chrisaldrich] apparently the mark up on that page is dreadful.... :zany_face:
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[chrisaldrich] GWG sending webmentions to archive pages could go to the generic homepage webmentions page (or the one set for it). Looks like it might be useful to check/ensure that people aren't setting that to the "blog" or other "archive" type pages though.
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GWG As I said, hasn't been much of an ask, and we have bigger projects...not that we've had much progress lately on that. We keep getting stalled with the next step planning.
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[chrisaldrich] It is definitely an edge case...
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GWG [chrisaldrich]: I live in edge cases
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GWG Speaking of which, HWC
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