2022-10-13 UTC
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# 19:43 [snarfed] hey GWG I tried to use Syndication Links to POSSE a post to Twitter via Bridgy Publish just now. I had the "Syndicate to: Twitter via Bridgy" checkbox checked, and my Bridgy Twitter account has Publish enabled, but nothing happened. # 19:43 [snarfed] I don't have WP_DEBUG_LOG on my prod site, so no debug logs. any ideas how else I could debug? # 19:43 GWG [snarfed]: I am thinking of switching from Webmentions to your new Micropub endpoint for that # 19:44 GWG The Webmention method keeps getting caught in site caching # 19:46 GWG The method of waiting and cache busting is tricky # 19:46 GWG And people want instant acknowledgement # 19:49 [snarfed] I don't see a POST to brid.gy/publish/webmention for this at all though # 19:50 GWG [snarfed]: It is triggered by cron a short time later. When I took the cron out, it worked but it read the Microformats while things were still processing # 19:51 GWG [snarfed]: If this "Comedy equals tragedy plus blockchain, that shows links. # 19:51 GWG Although it seems to have the webmention link in there for verification # 19:54 [snarfed] yeah that was the one, I waited 15m and then gave up and possed it (and added the synd links) manually # 19:55 GWG I need to do some testing with Micropub. Though, I have to double check which things take a few moments after publishing to appear and see if that's a problem # 19:55 [snarfed] oh interesting yeah the brid.gy/twitter/publish link is there. I guess the cron to POST to bridgy evidently never ran # 19:56 GWG [snarfed]: It may have, but if you manually added the Tweet, Bridgy would have rejected it, which leaves the link there, which is a bad experience # 19:56 [snarfed] sure, but I didn't do that until 15m later. if it regularly takes >15m, that's not great UX either # 20:02 [snarfed] aha, it did finally send. post got published at 12:30p (PT), POST happened at 12:49p # 20:17 [snarfed] btw GWG Micropub would still have this long cron delay, right? ie it would only maybe help caching issues, not the bad delay UX # 20:22 GWG [snarfed]: I hate WP Cron..very unreliable # 20:23 GWG But it means that I could add a setting for people who aren't running stuff on posts they need to wait for # 20:25 [snarfed] remind me, the reason you do it in cron is latency? you don't want to add the 1-2s Bridgy Publish POST delay to publishing the WP post? [benatwork] joined the channel
# 20:36 GWG [snarfed]: Because most items are saved to metadata on save or publish post...so that creates a problem if you also publish at that point. # 20:37 [snarfed] there's no hook or other way to send the Bridgy webmention after those items are saved, and still in the same request? # 20:46 GWG Possibly if I set the priority to the highest number possible, also there is a new hook # 20:46 GWG Webmentions have this same problem # 21:03 GWG I wish I had a better solution... but I want to revisit the problem again [fluffy], sebbu2 and neceve joined the channel
