#wordpress 2023-03-19

2023-03-19 UTC
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[TMichelleMoore] @gwg Good Morning! Do webmentions need any specific microformats to work to communicate with another site for a comment on a blog post? Or do they need the correct microformats for rsvp’s and replying to posts on GitHub and Mastodon etc.? Starting on the Webmention plugin.
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GWG Webmentions only handles that for incoming, not outgoing
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[TMichelleMoore] Now I am confused. 😊 If I have the Webmention plugin installed on my site, does it do anything if I want to respond to a post on your site?
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[TMichelleMoore] Then if you respond, reply, rsvp, does the Webmention plugin facilitate this? And does it have to have the correct microformats in the response to work?
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GWG There are two parts to the plugin
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GWG Sending and receiving
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GWG If you want to send me an RSVP, it will send a webmention, but it has nothing to do with determining microformats
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GWG If you want to receive an RSVP, it does
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GWG If you were sending me a webmention, my webmention plugin would be figuring out how to interpret your site
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[TMichelleMoore] @gwg Thank you! So if I send an RSVP, an it just says “yep I am coming,” it won’t do what it should on your site right? Outside of the Webmention portion, the content in my post should have the correct microformats right? Are you saying the delivery and package/content are separate?
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GWG If you send a webmention to yourself, the plugin on your site is doing everything
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GWG If you send a webmention to another site, that site is rendering the webmention
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GWG So, it uses microformats, but the webmention isn't making any judgments about what it sends other than to identify the links in your page'
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[TMichelleMoore] So the test would be - send Webmention and ensure it displays on the destination. But not, ensure that it, for example, shows the RSVP is yes and the person’s name and picture show, right?
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GWG Yes. But how it renders is up to who you send it to. If you send it to yourself...
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[TMichelleMoore] How do I decide how it renders?
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GWG [TMichelleMoore]: Microformats on the page of the webmention was sent from
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[TMichelleMoore] Got it! I think that explains it. Thank you @gwg!
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[chrisbergr] To send a reply to any other blog (e.g. david.shanske.com) you'll need post kinds to get the in-reply-to context. - In case that was not 100% clear. A great resource for testing your Webmentions (in and out) is https://webmention.rocks/
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GWG [chrisbergr]: Or your own personal markup. I wrote Post Kinds to fill that void for myself, but it isn't the only way
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[chrisbergr] Sure 🙂
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[TMichelleMoore] Thanks [chrisbergr] I will add that to my test steps. I forgot to add micropubs.rocks to my micropub testing. I am going to update that.
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