#indiewebcamp 2011-06-29

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tantek Ok I've asked Urban Airship about 2012.
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aaronpk thanks!
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aaronpk tantek: this is a very useful and well-thought-out piece of code, http://keithdevens.com/software/php_calendar, it would be awesome if there were a cassis.js version of it for printing NewCal calendars ;)
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brennannovak I propose we do quarterly or a 6 month out hackathon / meeting (even if that means in separate cities)
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shaners +1
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brennannovak aaronpk: tantek: I believe jQuery UI has a decent calendar widget that may be a good starting point
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aaronpk brennannovak: nah, I don't want a widget, I just want something that spits out html
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brennannovak I see
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aaronpk if you look at that code, it's well thought out, he wrote the minimum useful code that can be repurposed as needed
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brennannovak cool
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tantek I'd rather some sort of MediaWiki plugin that let you create event objects in the markup.
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tantek as well as person objects
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/reidab] Uploaded 315 photos from @osbridge! http://bit.ly/kDbFb (and a few more from #indiewebcamp http://bit.ly/iEnC7T)
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aaronpk created /IRC_Logs (+39) "Created page with '<IRCLogIndex channel="#indiewebcamp" />'" (view diff)
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aaronpk IRC Logs with color-coded dates based on density of chat per day http://indiewebcamp.com/IRC_Logs
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/PDXsays] @reidab thanks! #indiewebcamp
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/osbridge] RT @reidab: Uploaded 315 photos from @osbridge! http://bit.ly/kDbFb (and a few more from #indiewebcamp http://bit.ly/iEnC7T)
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tantek aaronpk that's pretty cool
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tantek why not just /irc/ ?
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aaronpk couldn't get the redirect working properly, and you already have a real page at /IRC anyway
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tantek but they're case-sensitive right?
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tantek and since it's just a page, we could combine the two
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tantek e.g.
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aaronpk put the calendars in the /IRC page?
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tantek edited /IRC (-46) "add logs calendar inline" (view diff)
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tantek :)
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aaronpk sweet
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tantek while you're enabling markup on the wiki - could you add the EnableAbbrTags and ExtendAnchorTags for POSH/Microformats support
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tantek http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EnableAbbrTags
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tantek http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExtendAnchorTags
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aaronpk k
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tantek oh and I noticed that someone got in with a wordpress.com non-indie-web URL - might want to add that to the OpenID provider blacklist
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aaronpk hm those look like they are already installed, are they not working?
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tantek btw, FYI for background (most of which we've taken care of) http://microformats.org/wiki/mediawiki-customization
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tantek yeah abbr's didn't work
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tantek when I tried them for the dates
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tantek e.g. <abbr class="dtstart d-start" title="2011-06-25">July 25</abbr>
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aaronpk http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EnableAbbrTags says it uses the <xabbr> tag
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tantek huh
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tantek that's very weird
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tantek it works on the microformats wiki
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aaronpk different version?
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tantek why would they do that?
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tantek oh
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tantek there's a list of global tags somewhere
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tantek that mediawiki allows
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tantek that you have to modify
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tantek hmm
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tantek found it
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tantek in /includes/Sanitizer.php
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tantek look for $htmlpairs = array_merge( $extratags, array( # Tags that must be closed
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aaronpk I have to edit a core file?
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tantek change
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tantek 'b', 'del',
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tantek to
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tantek 'abbr', 'b', 'del',
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aaronpk k done. I feel like i've done that before. I must have lost the changes when I upgraded MW versions
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tantek that's probably what happened
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tantek makes no sense that they omit abbr
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tantek maybe contribute the change and see what happens
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tantek and looks like we're not the only ones that want/do this customization
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tantek http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help_talk:Formatting#some.2C_but_not_all_HTML_tags
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aaronpk heh
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tantek more indiewebcamp photos: http://www.flickr.com/photos/reidab/sets/72157626947749601/with/5882965200/
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DawnFoster aaronpk: can I use this photo for a gigaom blog post (with attribution of course): http://indiewebcamp.com/File:indie-web-camp-2011.jpg
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aaronpk DawnFoster: yep! please do!
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DawnFoster aaronpk: I knew you wouldn't mind, but I have to say that I got permission :)
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aaronpk it's also licensed creative commons attribution: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/5881894938/
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DawnFoster awesome, thanks!
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/remware] RT @geekygirldawn: After spending all weekend here at #indieweb, I'm back for @mobileportland. mHealth: How Mobile Can Make Us Healthier http://bit.ly/isvjwD
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/matro] @SarahCDeming Count the # of services Google has orphaned/killed & give me a break-down of Google's revenue sources.
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abki_ héllo :)
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/grigs] Indiewebcamp made a strong impression. Still thinking about ideas from sessions and conversations.
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tantek aaronpk - could you fix the /irc redirect to go to /IRC instead of /IRC_logs ?
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aaronpk yep done
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MarkDilley indywebcamp
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MarkDilley aaronpk: looking at 2012 / Guest List - where I personally get stuck is here: builders only - code - design - ux. I consider myself a builder, in the wiki sense... where do I fit?
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tantek MarkDilley - what do you build for your own site?
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tantek \
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tantek that's the sense that matters
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tantek content authoring / wiki gardening - those don't count as "building"
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tantek "building" here is scoped in two particular ways: 1. something you do on and for your own personal site, live. and 2. something that can be shared and replicated by others on their own personal sites.
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tantek that includes open source code obviously, but also things like wireframes, storyboards, UI sketches, UX flows, icons, and other ux/design elements.
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tantek if you can think of something else specific that fits that scope of building, please describe it!
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MarkDilley tantek: they are building, but not in the sense that you have presented
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MarkDilley That is why I didn't consider last year or this year attendance. Talking to Amber, she said I should have come. Just trying to figure out how the invitation would include me.
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tantek MarkDilley - you can always come as an apprentice to a builder (find one to sponsor you)
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tantek with the goal of becoming a builder yourself
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tantek and can you describe what you build for your own site?
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tantek in any sense?
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tantek just trying to understand what you mean
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tantek btw this was the first IndieWebCamp
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tantek ...
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tantek just got confirmation that we are go for 2012 IndieWebCamp at Urban Airship!
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MarkDilley My own site
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MarkDilley that is an issue there
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tantek yes! that's the whole point of the indieweb
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MarkDilley I founded WikiIndex
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MarkDilley it is a wiki of wiki
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MarkDilley I welcome new wikis into the WikiOhana
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tantek if you're not developing it on your own site - it's not indieweb - that really is the focus of this particular *Camp.
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MarkDilley I help people think about how to build their wiki
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tantek in otherwords, this is more specific than just federation or any other open protocol / tool.
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MarkDilley building, just not in the sense of how you are defining it
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MarkDilley right
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tantek right, building, just not "indieweb" building
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MarkDilley so I don't know what Amber meant that I should be there next year
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tantek perhaps ask her
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tantek cc: caseorganic
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MarkDilley I will
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tantek I'd definitely recommend that you check out OSBridge 2012 btw http://opensourcebridge.org
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MarkDilley I have been a couple times, missed this year
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MarkDilley thanks
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MarkDilley Was scheduled to speak last year, but had to go out of town
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abki_ Your product is essentially "of the Web" - decentralized, interoperable, secure and privacy- & people-centric
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abki_ https://webfwd.org/fr/
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/alexdc] IndieWebCamp: Rather than posting content on 3rd-party silos, we should all begin owning the data we're creating http://bit.ly/hG0Rjw by @t
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/t] Amazing code/ux/design discussed+built @IndieWebCamp Class of 2011 http://flic.kr/p/9XLfrG. Demos+session notes: http://ttk.me/t4C_1
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/skinny] RT @t: Amazing code/ux/design discussed+built @IndieWebCamp Class of 2011 http://flic.kr/p/9XLfrG. Demos+session notes: http://ttk.me/t4C_1
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/IB3S] Amazing code/ux/design discussed+built @IndieWebCamp Class of 2011 http://flic.kr/p/9XLfrG. Demos+session notes:... http://bit.ly/lEa96e
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