#indiewebcamp 2012-03-27

2012-03-27 UTC
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paulbooker Yay! New user :)
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Loqi yay!
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/BarnabyWalters] Here I lay out the structure (technical and philosophical) of my #indieweb site as well as a roadmap for the future. http://t.co/Z0gh1ZBN
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barnabywalters you're getting slower Loqi, that was a minute at least
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Loqi who, me?
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barnabywalters yep, you
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barnabywalters I'll be timing you next time :)
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Loqi [http://twitter.com/BarnabyWalters] @boagworld I'm working on an #indieweb variant which allows people to respond to my content across the web. The tech exists, just not used.
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aaronpk nice writeup!
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aaronpk you should take a look at http://social-igniter.com/
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Loqi I agree
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aaronpk it's based on codeigniter, brennannovak is building it and has used it for several projects now
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aaronpk he has a lot of basic social integration stuff done
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aaronpk it's designed to be a starting point for building a site, it handles basic feeds and content types and logging in from various services
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aaronpk i don't think he's done much in the way of marking up the output format in microformats or doing the "b"/"t" content type things, so that's something you could build into it
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aaronpk might be a good starting point for your thing tho given that you're already familiar with codeigniter
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aaronpk barnabywalters ^^
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Loqi tantek: aaronpk left you a message on 3/25 at 10:42pm: I started working on a RelMeAuth implementation! https://github.com/aaronpk/RelMeAuth Going to integrate that into the indiewebcamp wiki soon!
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tantek aaronpk - sweet! that's awesome.
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tantek why Ruby? isn't the indiewebcamp wiki MediaWiki and thus PHP?
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aaronpk yeah, I'm actually setting it up so it can be used from any website
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aaronpk without tying into source code
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tantek oh as a service - interesting
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tantek hey paulbooker - you're here! re: http://social.mozilla.org.uk/notice/443 - I use delegated OpenID on tantek.com and the indiewebcamp.com URL you reference is the latest advice AFAIK for setting up your own domain as an OpenID identity provider.
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paulbooker tantek: Mr @t :) I kind of overlooked that status.net allow a users profile to serve as an openID URI & you can login into any instance of status.net with a delegated OpenID so I think all my needs are met through status.net at least where I need microblogging too
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barnabywalters aaronpk sorry about that! I was away but didn't change my nick
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aaronpk no worries, it's IRC!
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barnabywalters I have had a brief look at social igniter, whether or not I decide to use it will depend on how well it fits the way I see the structure working
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aaronpk cool. I've only poked around with it a little, but I know brennan's pretty interested in the indieweb stuff too so it'd be great if you could put your efforts in the same codebase
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barnabywalters well I'll have a look and see if there's anything I've written that can be used there
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aaronpk great
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barnabywalters the thing that I've had the most bother with has been syndication. sure I can push stuff out and get feedback back in, but the hassle of setting up an OAuth interface that I'll only ever use once has put me off everything apart from twitter so far
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barnabywalters they're nice and generate permanent access tokens for you
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barnabywalters fb require periodic sign ins :(
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aaronpk brennan has dealt with a bunch of that already with social igniter, so you at least get the oauth signin stuff for free that way
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barnabywalters great, there might be stuff I can pull straight into my codebase. Perhaps a library trade is in the offing.
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barnabywalters on a tangent: anyone see Paul Boag's post about social silos? Loqi pulled my reply to it earlier
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barnabywalters http://boagworld.com/usability/are-you-forcing-your-users-into-social-silos/?wt=2
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barnabywalters bye for the mo people
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paulbooker tantek: Mr @t   I kind of overlooked that http://status.net/ allow a users profile to serve as an openID URI & you can login into any instance of http://status.net/ with a delegated OpenID so I think all my needs are met through http://status.net/ at least where I need microblogging too
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tantek paulbooker, yes - status.net does a great job of implementing various IndieWeb / FSW protocols & formats
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paulbooker I think there will be a significant number of Mozilla UK contributors that will probably not join social.mozilla.or.uk (and similarly for other MCS communties) so it would be great to install an Open ID server, any recommendations?
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tantek perhaps on mozillians.org?
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tantek would be great to get mozillians.org to be an OpenID provider, and then just signing in there would get you an OpenID, which should be sufficient for Mozilla contributors UK or otherwise.
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paulbooker That's a great idea :) Do you know of any OpenID software that could be installed on Mozilla servers? It'll probably have to be something written in python / django *-)
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tantek paulbooker - no idea - you'd have to ask the mozillians folks - see irc://irc.mozilla.org/mozillians :)
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paulbooker Will do. I'll let you know I get on :)
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