#indiewebcamp 2012-06-30
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@matro @natevw But I gotta say, The Indie Web is a deep undercurrent in my brainsphere, and making it to http://t.co/RUd6xT03 is on my Bucket List.
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tantek.com edited /2012/Guest_List (+34) "slatkin is @haxor - per http://www.onebigfluke.com/2012/04/hell-has-frozen-over.html" (view diff)
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@t .@indiewebcamp 2012 starts tomorrow! We had nothing to do with Instagram•com and MyOpenID•com being down. Coincidence. (ttk.me t4Jf2)
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@misuba @t @indiewebcamp is it too late to register to attend?
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@caseorganic @misuba @t @indiewebcamp Sign up and add your name to the site to attend. We have enough slots left.
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borasky-research.net created /User:Borasky-research.net (+177) "Created page with "[http://borasky-research.net Borasky Research Journal]<br> [http://twiiter.com/znmeb @znmeb on Twitter]<br> [http://linkedin.com/in/edborasky M. Edward (Ed) Borasky on LinkedIn]"" (view diff)
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@IamAmandaLisa @indiewebcamp 2012: pt. 2 is looking up already
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@andyhume @t @indiewebcamp Wow… I missed that this was on while I was over here, otherwise I’d have done my best to force my way in.
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@PetraGregorova @andyhume plus it's my last weekend in Portland before flying out to Boston on Tuesday. Maybe I'll see you at Build? ;) + @t @indiewebcamp
# @PetraGregorova @t unfortunately I can't make it to @indiewebcamp since the movers are coming tomorrow instead of today as they were supposed to :(
# @caseorganic @PetraGregorova @t @indiewebcamp Darn! Well, we hope to see you next year!
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@benatkin Looking forward to @indiewebcamp tomorrow! Dreading the early flight though. I wish I'd planned an extra day.
# @caseorganic @lambdaprime Thank you so much for helping with translation! Hope to see you at #indiewebcamp this weekend!
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@BarnabyWalters @t @indiewebcamp is there a wiki page for service outage as well as site death? A lot of services went down yesterday.
# @caseorganic @seanrconnell See you at #indiewebcamp tomorrow! Great to meet you at #osbridge12!
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# @BarnabyWalters Fired up Safari Extension Builder to start work on the Browser Actions extn… http://t.co/TdVxnFNC #indieweb
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# @benatkin Might be late to @indiewebcamp if a couple of sites on AWS aren't back up when my flight arrives. :/
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# fastwonderblog.com edited /2012/Guest_List (-314) "/* Creators */ Removed my name to free a spot for another attendee, since I can't make it :(" (view diff)
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# Nadreck Heading down to Geoloqi shortly. See you there!
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@jc00ke Making a hard executive decision to skip @indiewebcamp this year. Need to take care of myself this weekend.
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barnabywalters wey hey! I'm on it
# barnabywalters just moving computer into the other room (parents are watching tennis)
# barnabywalters aaronpk: I can't find the hangout for some reason
# barnabywalters tried just searching 'indiewebcamp' too, I just get posts by tantek
# barnabywalters yep
# barnabywalters added to a circle
# barnabywalters aaronpk: Should I try starting a hangout with Alice Indiewebcamp?
# barnabywalters damn, I need to install some plugin anyway
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@erinjo Kicking off the morning at #indieweb camp with a view of downtown Portland near the waterfront @ Geoloqi HQ http://t.co/seXzPDoT
# erinjo Yay it worked!
# barnabywalters erinjo: Looks great!
# erinjo Good morning Loqi bot
# barnabywalters aaronpk: parents are now watching ancient top of the pops. I may have to move to my bedroom :|
# barnabywalters aaronpk: that would be great
# erinjo Buenos dÃas Loqi
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# erinjo barnabywalters: Are you in the UK? What part?
# barnabywalters erinjo: Yep, I'm in Devon (SW)
# barnabywalters I'm in a G+ hangout somewhere @geoloqi if you want to say hi!
# barnabywalters apparently I have a nametag now - cheers aaronpk!
# erinjo barnabywalters: I've heard rumors that we might try for a UK indie web camp, perhaps in Brighton.
# barnabywalters brighton is a pretty happening place — a long way away from me but more manageable than portland :)
# erinjo :-)
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@aaronpk Starting a Google hangout for IndieWebCamp kickoff! https://t.co/ESoL6Jw2
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# barnabywalters is away for the moment - having tea, will be back in a few mins
# jernst Is there any way of listening in, conf call, video, that kind of thing?
# Nadreck There will be irc channels for each session, based on the hashtag, we'll try to make sure to announce on here as they come up
# @aaronpk Starting a Google hangout for IndieWebCamp kickoff! https://t.co/ESoL6Jw2
# Nadreck There is also a Google Hangout, @aaronpk posted it on Twitter
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# Nadreck Folks are gathering to pitch their sessions now, so we should have a list of sessions shortly :)
# barnabywalters is back again
# Nadreck The google hangout appears to be up, if you have trouble connecting to it, ping @aaronpk
# barnabywalters I'm currently in the hangout, I'd be interested to know how well others can hear stuff that's going on
# barnabywalters I didn't catch a word of the kickoff but that might be my bad connection
# Nadreck Not sure if ya'll in the hang out are hearing what the session pitches are at the moment
# barnabywalters nope, not a clue :)
# barnabywalters all I can see is what's on the wiki
# Nadreck Gotcha, will try to update a list of sessions momentarily on here (and wiki if my battery holds out, my battery is dying)
# barnabywalters donpdonp: yep!
# Nadreck It seems to be up, but they can't hear much because we're all around the corner from it
# barnabywalters a hangout URI? Give me a sec…
# barnabywalters ah! okay, give me another sec :)
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# barnabywalters what's your G+ handle?
# donpdonp barnabywalters: http://donpark.org/i/alice.png is what i see
# barnabywalters I'll try and invite you
# barnabywalters I don't think we have to be contacts
# barnabywalters sure, okay
# barnabywalters I really don't know. I've never used G+ before now. you're best off asking aaron about it
# barnabywalters ah hah! think i might have got it
# barnabywalters get followers to search G+ for 'indiewebcamp'
# barnabywalters filter 'hangouts'
# barnabywalters should pop up
# Nadreck Nope, not unless you're a friend apparently.
# jernst a friend of whom?
# Nadreck Next sessions: Identity on the Web Review, hashtag #oid
# Nadreck Next sessions: Browser Social Store: #browsersoc
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# Nadreck They'll be up on the wiki shortly, we'll also add etherpad notes, and there theoretically will be a backchannel here on freenode
# Nadreck Based on the hashtag
# barnabywalters donpdonp: Not sure then. G+ mystifies me. I added Alice Indiewebcamp to my circles and it worked after a minute or two
# Nadreck Also, my battery is almost dead, so if I poof, sorry :)
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# barnabywalters donpdonp: are those the read-only ones? This is duplex
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# Nadreck Just added all the follow notifications on G+ for Alice IndieWebCamp, so theoretically you should be able to see the hangout nowish
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# e_s_p Hey everybody
# Nadreck Good morning!
# e_s_p I run my own IRC server and broadcast out to the other networks
# e_s_p B-)
# faddah WODDUP, INDIE GANGSTAHZ??!
# Nadreck Hah, nice
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@evanpro In the identity review. https://t.co/HoZHKsWf #indiewebcamp
# Nadreck At noon to noon:45: Simple Indie Web Messaging Stack: How do We Do this Easily? #SIMS
# faddah we'd gwahn git awwwll indie 'n' id'd up in heayah!
# Nadreck Sign in with your name #namesignin
# Nadreck Quantified Self #quantifiedself (about collecting all your various user data)
# Nadreck Distributed Content Graph vs Cloud #dicogr
# Nadreck 13:00 to 13:45 is lunch
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aaronpk barnabywalters: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/7473822516/in/photostream
# barnabywalters aaronpk: Many thanks
# barnabywalters I can transcribe if you'd rather enjoy the event
# barnabywalters although I can't quite make out some of the smaller text
# aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/2012/Schedule <-- here is the template
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# Nadreck There are a LOT more sessions after lunch, but my battery died (old laptop, old battery), so check the wiki later for those :)
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# faddah hacking the wordpress php widget to use rel="me"' => #relequalsmehack
# barnabywalters_ aaronpk: does indieauth no longer support oauth?
# faddah evan - gar!
# barnabywalters_ ah, okay
# barnabywalters_ was just wondering as it's changed to twitter for waterpigs.co.uk now
# faddah oooooh BOOM! SNAP! apk done Dropped OpenID like it was off the fire escape!
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@pkbot mentioned in IndieWebCamp Kickoff | Flickr Photo Sharing http://t.co/JdhTP0RW [Google Alerts]
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /2012/Schedule (+145) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
# waterpigs.co.uk edited /2012/Schedule (+194) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
# faddah note to self: give BrowserID a chance.
# waterpigs.co.uk edited /2012/Schedule (+3) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
# Nadreck Seconded!
# Nadreck Hmm, good to know
# waterpigs.co.uk edited /2012/Schedule (+271) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */ Added all sessions apart from illegible ones" (view diff)
# Nadreck Interesting: IndieAuth Rel=Me Auth is sort of a way to skip having to implement your own oauth solution, by handing that off to pretty much any other authentication provider
# Nadreck Big difference between OpenID Connect and IndieAuth: IndieAuth is already implemented :P
# barnabywalters_ +1
# @evanpro http://t.co/YtJ0r6nL is a service that does all the client keys and so forth to make #indieauth easy. #indieweb
# waterpigs.co.uk edited /2012/Schedule (+173) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */ Added a load of hashtags + image link" (view diff)
# barnabywalters_ okay, I transcribed all the events I can read onto the wiki
# Nadreck Fantastic, thanks!
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# @evanpro "RelMeAuth" http://t.co/QA5v2B7O #indieweb #relme
# waterpigs.co.uk edited /2012/Schedule (+92) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
# lifeofaudrey.com edited /2012/Schedule (+1) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
# faddah WIFI @ indiewebcamp - a c
# faddah WIFI @ indiewebcamp - access point: Geoloqi HQ, pw: tinydino
# Nadreck Jargon Discussion: "Distributed" is peer to peer, "Federated" is multiple authorities, Syndication is publish once, broadcast everywhere. Did I misinterpret?
# barnabywalters aaronpk: no problem :)
# barnabywalters if anyone in the room with the G+ laptop could spare a second, I'd *really* appreciate it if you could shift it a bit closer to the speaker? I can't hear a thing!
# Nadreck It's currently plugged into a giant monitor, but I'll go see what I can do
# barnabywalters oh gawd, my face is on a big screen? #embarrassed
# barnabywalters that's much better! thanks a lot!
# Nadreck Any better?
# barnabywalters much :)
# aaronpk barnabywalters: this is what you looked like until just now http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/7473827768/in/photostream
# Nadreck Cool :)
# barnabywalters ha ha! brilliant
# barnabywalters aaronpk+1
# lifeofaudrey.com created /Browser_Social_Store (+2078) "Created page with "Once we have decided we should own our stuff, we could all put our content on personal servers, or we could store/host that in our browsers. (other options too?) This is possible..."" (view diff)
# @BarnabyWalters "When you treat any ATOM feed as an activitystream, there are a LOT out there" #indieweb #indiewebcamp http://t.co/ynJRl0q1
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aaronparecki.com edited /2012/Schedule (+680) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com edited /2012/Schedule (+162) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
# Nadreck I've moved over to Quantified self, if anyone wants to take over keeping an eye on the hangout laptop
# Nadreck It's currently in the main room, sitting on top of a cubicle wall
# @evanpro "IndieWeb Messaging" https://t.co/6IGXNYAX #indieweb #messaging
# donpdonp http://indiewebcamp.com/Schedule is up to date
# ialsowent.com edited /2012/Schedule (+0) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */" (view diff)
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# jernst So what happened to the G+ feed?
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@Johannes_Ernst A lot of the #indiewebcamp discussion sounds like LID services. Personal URLs. Messaging to domains. http://t.co/gCx1F26u
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# barnabywalters yep, it's gone
# jernst (I'm the lurker)
# barnabywalters jernst: Hi!
# jernst donpdonp: now that's a good one
# barnabywalters donpdonp: ah! That would explain the problem
# barnabywalters if we had a video feed still we might be able to tell you where it was ;)
# barnabywalters front, from the left, looking towards tantek (I think)
# barnabywalters Nadreck says "It's currently in the main room, sitting on top of a cubicle wall"
# barnabywalters tantek: I haven't got a clue what's happening any more ;)
# barnabywalters I'm mainly working on my browser-actions extension
# benatkin.com created /2012/You_Own_Your_Observations (+956) "Created page with "'''Proposed by [[User:Benatkin.com|Ben Atkin]]''' The TOS of twitter says that you own what you post, but what can you do with it? Twitter doesn't have a list of hashtags for a..."" (view diff)
# barnabywalters cool, I still see black but it should pop up again
# barnabywalters ah, so is it different now? Have to re-join a different one?
# barnabywalters okay, joining the new one
# barnabywalters got it. Cheers :)
# aaronparecki.com edited /2012/Schedule (+1) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */ fix link" (view diff)
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@donpdonp Google Hangout for today's IndieWebCamp #indieweb https://t.co/FrpN4ibh
# barnabywalters ah, lots of people talking at one in the hangout
# barnabywalters that would be great
# barnabywalters oh no, someone's playing music!
# barnabywalters now they're groaning… this is getting creepy…
# barnabywalters hah - someone just blocked the IWC user from the hangout *roll*
# barnabywalters aaronpk: doesn't g+ do read-only hangouts? Or is that just for celebrities?
# barnabywalters it was great to say hello almost in person though
# barnabywalters nutters seem to have left
# Nadreck *grin*
# @BarnabyWalters Just had a load of nutters join the #indiewebcamp G+ hangout. Lots of loud music and groaning. Not Nice. http://t.co/RF16J2WG
# barnabywalters I can hear fine now
# barnabywalters it was just the proximity and the crazy-people noise that was causing problems
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# barnabywalters now it's a shirtless guy…
# @benatkin found out at #indiewebcamp that @mozilla has an open etherpad server for Mozilla-related work. Nice! https://t.co/AdhTu0kz
# barnabywalters aaronpk: cleared up now — they seem to come in waves?
# barnabywalters ah, sure
# jernst This G+ thingy is a very bandwidth-intensive way of playing whack a mole.
# barnabywalters +1
# barnabywalters when it's not whack-a-mole, though, it's working really well
# barnabywalters with the mathsey t-shirt?
# barnabywalters cool :)
# Nadreck In Quantified Self, we're discussing putting together an API to collect data from fitness services, and potentially publish back out from our self-hosted solution.
# Nadreck Part of the problem is that different solutions (like FitBit, GreenGoose etc) post different data, store it differently, and vary on how much data they are willing to publish out to other services
# Nadreck But biometric indieweb solutions are important, so creating a core framework is pretty essential
# @aaronpk I'm streaming photos from #indiewebcamp in near real-time to Flickr: http://t.co/sgNm56HU
# Nadreck Mmmm, foodcart deliciousness
# Nadreck Head that way in about 15?
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# barnabywalters these offices look lovely
# barnabywalters supper time!
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# barnabywalters aaronpk at the height of the crazy-people incursion: http://photos.waterpigs.co.uk/p/jn
# barnabywalters we've had all sorts… teenagers in shady rooms, shirtless guys in shadier rooms, a penguin (going by the avatar)…
# barnabywalters If there's anyone out there interested in Web Intent/Action problems and/or has experience making browser extensions, I'd love to chat RE https://github.com/barnabywalters/browser-actions
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@jancborchardt Let’s make sign in as easy as remembering your name: http://t.co/pKmD6r8m #indieweb #ux
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upon2020.com created /User:Upon2020.com (+577) "Created page with "= Johannes Ernst = * [http://upon2020.com/ upon2020.com] - blog * [http://linkedin.com/in/jernst linkedin.com/in/jernst] - linkedin == Projects related to the indie web == * [..."" (view diff)
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# jancborchardt hm, "minor edits" shouldn’t necessarily be pushed to this channel, is that possible? cc aaronpk
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# jancborchardt.net created /2012/Intro_to_Unhosted (+347) "Created page with "Part of [[2012/Schedule]].
{{stub}} Notes being taken here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-unhosted '''Unhosted & remoteStorage''', enable people to have their docum..."" (view diff)# jancborchardt aaronpk: yep, only if it’s not too much hassle
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@teejayvanslyke @alexlinsker hai from #indiewebcamp. @moolarb is the payment framework I was jabbering about! Cheers!
# onebigfluke.com created /2012/Positive_Arguments (+120) "Created page with "Brett Slatkin http://onebigfluke.com Hash tags: #mrx #indieweb Etherpad: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-mrx"" (view diff)
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# Nadreck Okay, sessions are starting now!
# jernst would love the links to those survey results
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# Nadreck Agreed
# Nadreck I don't see it -- how big was the sample size?
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# barnabywalters etherpad is *awesome*
# barnabywalters need to get an install going on my VPS
# barnabywalters it makes the remote participation much better
# barnabywalters getting an audio feed and being able to write in the etherpad is a great combination
# barnabywalters yep, far fewer nutters and creeps :)
# benward Damn, does anyone know a way to make etherpad scrollable on the iPad?
# barnabywalters benward: I can't. Seems odd that the user list scrolls but the content doesnt
# barnabywalters wow, another penguin in the hangout (that's two so far tonight!)
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@alexlinsker At #indieweb, talking about positive reasons #mrx, thinking about peer-to-peer instant message authorizations #PDX
# aaronpk barnabywalters: more photos to augment the remote participation experience: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/sets/72157630360840208/
# barnabywalters brilliant, thanks
# barnabywalters oo, I look a bit demonic in one of those…
# barnabywalters :D
# @Johannes_Ernst @haxor link to your survey results? #indiewebcamp
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@rabble I'm at IndieWebCamp w/ @veganstraightedge http://t.co/Rsx4UumV
# @BarnabyWalters Coming up with loads of positive reasons for the #indieweb at #indiewebcamp https://t.co/aRNQ9Kh8 http://t.co/RwxZXvqE
# aaronparecki.com created /2012/Simple_Indie_Web_Messaging_Stack (+278) "Created page with "Using SIMS Compare https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieWeb-Messaging * Factorization of a number to make the computation too expensive for spammers * Adjuct factorization difficul..."" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com created /2012/Big_Data_Personal_Cloud (+71) "Created page with "https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-bigperson [[Category:2012]]"" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com edited /2012/Schedule (-6) "/* Saturday, June 30, 2012 (Idea Sessions) */ #clienttools -> #silos" (view diff)
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@yuetsu .@caseorganic O THANK YOU CASE! THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR NOM-Y SALMON TACOS! O NOM NOM NOM SLURP NOM NOM…!! #indiewebcamp
# aaronparecki.com edited /2012/Bring_the_World_Back_Into_Your_Domain (+2342) "import etherpad text" (view diff)
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# barnabywalters could someone let me know when the #comments session is starting? I'd like to listen in to that one if at all possible :)
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@canuckistani very cool: "@jancborchardt: Let’s make sign in as easy as remembering your name: http://t.co/pGFCKEdu #indieweb #ux"
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@hasancansaral #indieweb #ownyourdata
# barnabywalters hangout video seems to have dropped out
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# barnabywalters yep, hangout is no longer running (search result in G+ uses past tense and offers no "join" button)
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# barnabywalters ah - Alice Indiewebcamp user is back but no feed
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# barnabywalters audio's back
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# Nadreck Had a router hiccup, should be back up no
# Nadreck err now
# Nadreck While we wait, learning about the crazy wireless setup OSBridge used, using fake plants that were actually routers "wificuses"
# Nadreck In #comments
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# tantek.com edited /2012/Schedule (+21) "update rooms / sessions that have moved around" (view diff)
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# barnabywalters aaronpk: this is freaky - I was typing exactly what you were saying 1/2 second before!
# Nadreck *grin*
# barnabywalters who the **** are all these people?!
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@xtof_fr #IndieWebCamp c'est parti : http://t.co/yVeJMnkT. Croisé session #quantifiedself pour de la #smalldata +indé moins nombriliste
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@haxor Rough notes from #indieweb #mrx session on Positive Arguments for owning your content online. http://t.co/ukcjjjya /cf. http://t.co/pxrQrYZU
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@blaine Hoping everyone at #indieweb camp has seen @albertwenger's recent talk http://t.co/Bw96mCPH
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# barnabywalters tantek: when you've got a free minute or two, could you have a look over this? https://github.com/barnabywalters/browser-actions RE web actions/intents.
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# barnabywalters aaronpk: getting towards midnight here so I'm signing off now
# barnabywalters thanks for ferrying me around, and great to virtually meet you!
# barnabywalters no problem, I'll be back tomorrow!
# barnabywalters I'm assuming we'll be having some github action?
# barnabywalters tomorrow is making day?
# barnabywalters bye for the mo
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# maxogden want: domain registrar that I can redirect users to a la oauth and have them buy a domain, then get a redirect back with an API token
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# maxogden set up the dns for that user
# maxogden but have them pay for it and be in control of the admin for the domain, i just get to be trusted to configure it
# @pkbot Posted a photo: IndieWebCamp 2012 http://t.co/vx5DdAoH [Flickr]
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# faddah aaaaaand... hey, we're back! with me, the guy who
# faddah ...likes to say, “hey, we're back!”
# faddah is anyone etherpad scribing the #clienttools session?
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# faddah you there, Loqi?
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# @Johannes_Ernst Survey: Have you considered getting your own website address? https://t.co/OFZjd2Qa #indiewebcamp #pcloud