#aaronpktantek: I just realized that your permalinks for your text updates appear to not be automatically generated. do you create those when you post an update?
#aaronpkit's the only thing that's kept me posting photos at any sort of regular intervals
#aaronpktantek: in the source of your updates, do you reference "@aaronpk" and your site converts to twitter.com/aaronpk, or do you reference twitter.com/aaronpk and convert to @aaronpk?
#tantekmy autolinker turns @aaronpk into a hyperlinked version
#tantek5. allow minor edits to posts, e.g. to fix typos, grammar errors (again per a white-list) - check for % of change, or # of characters changed as a threshold.
#tantek6. allow major edits (an even smaller white-list)
#tantek7. allow posting new posts on behalf of (an even smaller white-list), e.g. something you might have an assistant do for you
#tantek(without having to give *your* password/identity/full-access to)
#tantek8. allow *deleting* posts (maybe only white-listed to your attorney?)
#tantektime to add the rest of the awesome photos in approximate time sequence order to: http://indiewebcamp.com/Classof2012 (I made a day 1 and a day 2 section, which could be further subdivided)
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#aaronpkI'm trying to set up PuSH on my site, but I need someone to subscribe to the feed in order for app engine to accept the posts. Are there any test implementations of PuSH subscribers so I don't have to set one up myself?
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#tantekaaronpk - even more than test - anyone on status.net can subscribe to any PuSH feed
#tantekhere I have an identi.ca account - what's your PuSH URL?
#singpolymastatus.net/identi.ca and rstat.us are the two good public ones, yeah. Though you can use the pubsubhubbub.appspot.com test subscriber also if you like
#aaronpksingpolyma: what's the "test subscriber"? all I can find is a form that makes the subscribe request, but requires me to handle all the postbacks and such
#tantekaaronpk - what URL would you like me to subscribe to?
#singpolymaaaronpk: oh, possibly. I always just use identi.ca or rstat.us, I just knew they had a link for "test subscriber" that they link to
#aaronpktantek: it's just a scratch feed, i'm going to delete it in a few minutes. if identica can subscribe to it that'll be easiest for me to test with
#aaronpkweird, it says "Sorry, we could not reach that address. Please make sure that the OStatus address is like nickname@example.com or http://example.net/nickname"
#aaronpkdoesn't let me enter tantek's atom URL either
#tantekaaronpk - atom URL? what are you doing with the invisible web?
#singpolymaI've thought about adding hAtom support to rstat.us, but haven't got that far yet
#jancborchardtaaronpk: tantek there’s a typo on the front page: »The third annual IndieWebCamp will be June 22 through July 23, 2013, « (Not sure which date is correct though)
#tanteksingpolyma - do you have any existing microformats parsers?
#tantekjan - I had it right in the <time> element - only the prose was in error :D
#singpolymatantek: I have the hAtom parser I use for my personal aggregator (I use hAtom as the intermediate and storage format so that I can consume many feed formats but process it all with the same code)
#tantekshane (@veganstraightedge) mentioned this weekend that he had a slightly different set of post-type short-code 1-letter prefixes from mine ( http://ttk.me/w/Whistle#design ) - but I can't find his on the web - anyone know of them?
#aaronpkI think he mentioned it was only written in a file on his computer
#tantekI haven't posted / implemented 'a' nor 'v' yet in Falcon
#tantekand I have a feeling I may get to implementing v / venue first
#tantek(and post many more of them, if we actually get indieweb checkins to work)
#tantekbtw - just as Evan, Julien, donpdonp et al developed their open people search service, I can see wanting/needing/using an open venue search service as well
#aaronpkwell if I make a venue page for Geoloqi HQ, I need to be able to reference that venue from a checkin
#aaronpkso the checkin says "venue: geoloqi-hq" which is the page's slug
#tantekshane wanted to use 'x' for venue (x marks the spot), but I think 'v' for venue is better, and the more I thought about it, the more I realized that the temporal playback aspect of both audio and video made them similar enough in presentation/UI to collapse.
#tantekaaronpk - I'm going to just use create/publish date, as I do for all my other post types for URL referencing
#tantekshort url? probably something like ttk.me/v/XXX1 where XXX was the date I first created (possibly checked into) the venue, and 1 assuming it was the first venue I created that day.
#aaronpkthat's fine, but then how would you refernce it from a checkin? It just seems like a named identifier would be easier to deal with in the source files
#tanteki'd use the *name* of the venue for display purposes though
#tantekprobably short, though I may opt for tantek.com/v/XXX1 rather than ttk.me, space permitting.
#aaronpkOne of the downsides of using Jekyll or other static site generators is that you kind of lose the concept of ids vs names in permalinks, like I can't really have a page have both the URL aaronparecki.com/venue/XXX1 and aaronparecki.com/venue/XXX1/geoloqi-hq
#tantekthough some mods to .htaccess may be needed (I needed to make some)
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#tantekFYI: barnabywalters, veganstraightedge (in case these get picked up by Google alerts monitoring our IRC archives) - I've updated my Whistle short-codes: http://tantek.com/w/Whistle#design - 'a' is now for audio and video, and 'v' is for venue
#aaronpkexample: Eran sent me the oauth.net site since I took over hosting it. From the moment I said "ok I'll host it" it took about 8 minutes to receive a .zip file of the site, unpack it on my server, set up the vhost, and it was running
#tantekbtw - aaronpk - how hard it would it be to setup an Atom feed of the IRC archives of the last like 255 utterances on here or something, and then ping a hub with them?
#aaronpkit's basically just a bunch of php files with some <?php include() ?> lines for grabbing headers
#aaronpktantek: I was actually just thinking about that!!
#mkowensYeah. I mean, that's what I use for mowens.com
#mkowensI wrote a very basic PHP framework to throw it up on a shared hosting. I could copy/paste that folder to any Apache/PHP server and it'd be fine.
#aaronpkI think a lot of the motivation behind Jekyll and others is that Ruby/Python don't give you trivial options for hosting like PHP does
#tantekwonders if there are any existing PuSH-enabled IRC archives
#mkowensThe right tool for the right job, in my mind. PHP, while not what I would choose to build a robust web application, is perfect for small, rarely-changing websites.
#aaronpkwell crap, now I'm re-considering this whole jekyll thing and need to investigate a simple PHP site again
#aaronpktantek: wb. You should be able to subscribe to this in statusnet: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/logs but I seem to be having trouble getting it to recognize it as a valid feed
#aaronpkwell if somebody would be so kind as to subscribe to this feed using the app engine hub, then they should start pulling it: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/logs
#tanteksomehow my plain single quote ' in there's is being auto-smartened - when it shouldn't be - the feed should just reflect the plain text that is coming from IRC
#tantekoh I see - for turning things into entities - you have to use numeric entities for it be valid XML
#tanteknamed entities other than the standard 4 (amp lt gt quot) only work in HTML
#tantekfinally, I think it is more semantically correct to use <content> elements for the utterances rather than <summary>, because you're putting the entire contents in the feed, not summaries.