#indiewebcamp 2012-07-02

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tantek help take notes: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-demos
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@benatkin @adambrault nope, still at indiewebcamp. See you later.
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@brianloveswords @mikeal @maxogden hey, is the thing at Jupiter invite-only? Some IndieWebCamp people wanna come.
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@brianloveswords #IndieWebCamp folks, we've been graciously invited to join the NodeConf pre-party at the Jupiter! Your badge from IWC will get you in.
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@jancborchardt See you at @Nodeconf Portland party in a bit! Thanks to #IndieWebCamp and all attendees come over!
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@jancborchardt http://t.co/uc200huk is the future of following and sign in! High 5 @evanpro @donpdonp @benatkin #IndieWebCamp
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@indiewebcamp A huge thank you to our 2012 sponsors for making #indiewebcamp possible! @StatusNet @Mozilla @urbanairship @geoloqi http://t.co/wSH6kggQ
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@jancborchardt The open source web app directory I mentioned at #IndieWebCamp is http://t.co/co0GMkCp cc @t @brennannovak @aaronpk
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@bmndr Demoed today @ #indieweb camp: New Beeminder feature: streaming export. Set a callback URL in settings & get a copy of your data in realtime
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@julien51 That was a great #indieWebCamp weekend in Portland. I'm kind of exhausted, but I want to finish a couple things in #thebutler
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@t Thanks participants, sponsors, and co-organizers @aaronpk @caseorganic @jasongrlicky for an awesome IndieWebCamp 2012! (ttk.me t4Jh1)
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@erinjo #indieweb camp - the end @ Geoloqi HQ http://t.co/gbI3Qu5h
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@casebot Caseorganic was blogged about in:Thanks participants, sponsors, and co-organizers @aaronpk - Tantek: You are at ... http://t.co/tV0sC9O1
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@haxor @daltonc Guess they shouldn't have taken VC? The leaders killed the API focus way before adopting ads. What's the lesson here? #indieweb
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@ZzoOoz95 "@t: Thanks participants, sponsors, and co-organizers @aaronpk @caseorganic @jasongrlicky for an awesome IndieWebCamp 2012! (ttk.me t4Jh1)"
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abki_ ça marche pas
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abki_ sorry wrong channel
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@jancborchardt A really fun week in Portland! Thanks to @osbridge, @indiewebcamp, @nodeconf party, @Wraithan, @dietrich and you!
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@AndrewKorf @Taqee More on the Twitter API thing here: http://t.co/b0nwboIl from @novaspivak and the need for the #indieweb https://t.co/L7LPla0x
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donpdonp thinkupapp.com - will archive all tweets and do analytics on it (also supports facebook, google+)
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barnabywalters donpdonp: I've been using that for a week or two now
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barnabywalters I like it, and it's great for analytics, but I intend for my software to do what it does better eventually
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barnabywalters for now, it's fab
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aaronpk how do you guys like it? I installed it a year ago or so and eventually stopped running it
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barnabywalters aaronpk: did it get dull? I can see it getting dull
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donpdonp barnabywalters: cool. maybe you could help me with setup? i get sent to twitter and twitter gives me a pass number
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donpdonp but there is no place in the app to put the pass number
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barnabywalters this pass number - a client id/secret?
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donpdonp barnabywalters: nope ive got that setup
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donpdonp when trying to add a twitter account
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aaronpk yea I guess, I eventually stopped really getting anything out of it, and it wasn't archiving tweets in a format I liked
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barnabywalters that's odd _ I've not seen any reference to a passnumber
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donpdonp barnabywalters: http://donpark.org/i/thinkup1.png
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barnabywalters aaronpk: I was hoping I could use it's API to overcome the facebook age limitation issues I've had, but it doesn't look like it will :( Just have to wait till next january
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donpdonp also http://donpark.org/thinkup has open registration if anyone wants to try it
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barnabywalters or fake my age
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donpdonp though i cant get the add twitter account to finish :(
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barnabywalters donpdonp: that is really odd. I've not seen twitter use that auth before
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barnabywalters did you get the callback URI right?
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donpdonp hmm
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barnabywalters if the callback id was right, twitter should have sent you back to thinkup
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donpdonp ohh i bet thats it
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barnabywalters I think the passnumber is a fallback
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barnabywalters that thinkup clearly doesn't support - not a great plan, as people are likely to get the callback id wrong sometimes
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barnabywalters aaronpk: did you check out openphoto?
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aaronpk i haven't installed it yet
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barnabywalters been lots of new features lately -- it's really actively developed
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aaronpk nice
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barnabywalters notably albums, but I don't use them (tags are more interoperable)
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barnabywalters I have a fix I need to submit myself, actually
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donpdonp barnabywalters: fixed. woo! thanks
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barnabywalters donpdonp: Yay!
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Loqi giggles
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barnabywalters tantek: is there a wiki page for IWC UK?
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barnabywalters a la brennannovak, the day it's confirmed is the day I buy my train ticket
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@brennannovak @haxor really dug your spin on focusing the positive aspects of #indieweb thanks for attending :)
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tantek good morning barnabywalters - I'm just emailing a few Brighton friends about it now
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Loqi good morning! Clear and 62 degrees
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tantek current thinking is 2012-09-08...09
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tantek in Brighton
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barnabywalters tantek: morning! Just checking out train times and talking logistics with parents
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tantek check out 2012.dconstruct.org also on Sept 7th
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tantek that's happening for sure
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barnabywalters tempted to go but I've used up a lot of my conference+festival budget for this year
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barnabywalters it looks good though
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tantek it's amazing value
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tantek plus they may have a student rate
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barnabywalters yep - you get the three days workshopping as well as the conference for the price?
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jancborchardt tantek: Michiel and I are thinking to do Unhost anyway (would be September 7–9) and then video call in from there. Also it’s way easier to get to from Berlin, especially since we don’t have that much travel budget left.
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barnabywalters two days, rather
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tantek hello jan!
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jancborchardt hey tantek!
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jancborchardt tantek: the full-package IndieWeb service thing I showed you is http://owncloud.org by the way
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tantek also - BarCampBrighton6 is Sept 10th & 11th also
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barnabywalters sounds like it's asking for a week out :)
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tantek I'm lurking the Google Group archives of BarCampBrighton
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tantek oh wait nm that was *last years* BarCampBrighton
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tantek their email list doesn't get much traffic apparently
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barnabywalters TBH I'm amazed you participate in an email list, having read failmail/efail or whatever you called that article ;)
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tantek ok email sent to my peeps in Brighton we'll see what happens
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tantek barnaby - I didn't participate, I googled the Google Group archives
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tantek ;)
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barnabywalters that sounds more like it :)
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barnabywalters I'm having trouble finding anything out about barcamp brigthon
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barnabywalters *brighton
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barnabywalters official wiki page contains info from 2008 :| http://barcamp.org/w/page/400548/BarCampBrighton
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barnabywalters http://2012.dconstruct.org/conference/scott/ looks like it could be interesting RE site deaths
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tantek indeed, Jason Scott / ArchiveTeam has a lot of overlap in principles with IndieWeb
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tantek I think it won't take much work to get Scott to show up to IndieWebCampUK assuming it's the weekend after his talk :)
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tantek yeah, the BarCampBrighton pages are hard to track down, try appending a number when searching, e.g. BarCampBrighton6
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tantek (was last year's)
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barnabywalters okay, will do
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barnabywalters tantek: I can find some photos on flickr and a lanyrd event but not much else
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tantek does the lanyrd event link to other things like a wiki?
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barnabywalters (these are for BCB6) http://lanyrd.com/2011/bcb6/, links to various stuff including http://2011.barcampbrighton.org/, which looks promising but is taking a long time to load
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Loqi !calc (these are for BCB6) http://lanyrd.com/2011/bcb6/, links to various stuff including http://2011.barcampbrighton.org/, which looks promising but is taking a long time to load
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brennannovak barnabywalters: what is weather like in merry ole England in aug / sept ?
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barnabywalters brennannovak: Heh — probably murky but there's really no way to tell
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barnabywalters essentially: everything you've heard about british weather is true
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barnabywalters when we do get sun it's at the strangest of times
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brennannovak barnabywalters: is murky == hot & humid? I've been there in Feb / March and it was gray, dreary, and rainy- just like I like it
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hober really needs to make it to Brighton some day
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barnabywalters brennannovak: unlikely to be hot+humid (urgh… least favourite weather) in aug/sept
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barnabywalters tantek: I have finally found an up-to-date source on BCB 2012! @barcampbrighton on twitter
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tantek a-ha!
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tantek brennannovak - September in Brighton is hit or miss
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tantek some years it is awesome, sunny, mild temperatures
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tantek others it's been overcast, sprinkling
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tantek I'm hoping for the best :)
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brennannovak tantek: excellent, either way I'm happy :)
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@brennannovak Did friggin Facebook just chop everyone's cover photos in half? I'm afraid so... to the #IndieWeb #quickly
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tantek brennannovak - wtf? what happened with facebook photos?
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tantek I thought they just did the opposite - that is, allow access to uploaded high-resolution originals (even older uploads) ?
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brennannovak tantek: it was weird I checked like 4 profiles, everyone's cover photos (on the profile page) were only about 125px high as opposed to the usual 350px or so
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barnabywalters brennannovak: mine is still ~350px
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brennannovak yah, everything was short, then i closed my browser window and hard refreshed and it went back to normal
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barnabywalters weird!
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brennannovak I was especially bummed as my cover photo is an advertisement for the #IndieWeb
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tantek my profile photo is unchanged
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brennannovak weird, keep your eyes peeled over the next few days
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tantek will do
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brennannovak http://facebook.com/brennannovak
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barnabywalters +1
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tantek nice
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brennannovak :)
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barnabywalters I did a similar initial post to G+, it's not quite as straightforward or visible as that though :)
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tantek that's brilliant brennan - totally worth a blog post inciting people to do that
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barnabywalters * dusts the cobwebs off photoshop, opens
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brennannovak tantek: thanks, aaronpk: actually had another brilliant additon- make an easier image generator tool that creates / uploads to peoples profiles
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barnabywalters damn, how do you do the • thing?
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tantek shift-option-8
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tantek °
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tantek no just option-8
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tantek •
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barnabywalters • opens photoshop
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barnabywalters nah, not that
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barnabywalters it's some IRC thing I'm not familiar with
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brennannovak type /me does something
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barnabywalters opens photoshop
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barnabywalters yay!
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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brennannovak loves sharin the knawledge
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barnabywalters Okay, I made a PSD template (with mask guide for profile photo overlay): https://github.com/barnabywalters/indieweb-banner
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barnabywalters alternative templates (esp. open source) appreciated, will be pulled/added if requested/emailed to me
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barnabywalters done and dusted! https://www.facebook.com/barnaby.walters
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barnabywalters ___ no way…
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barnabywalters *just* as I change it, it changes the height >:(
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aaronpk try scrolling up
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barnabywalters damn, you're right!
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barnabywalters I wonder why the # is several pixels down the page, then
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brennannovak barnabywalters: +1
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tantek looks like OSBridge is June 18-21 next year: http://osbridge.eventbrite.com
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tantek thus shall we do IndieWebCamp 2013 next June 22-23?
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donpdonp there were a suprizing number of gold stars this year
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aaronpk sounds reasonable!
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donpdonp i have no strong objection!
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tantek aaronpk - assuming Geoloqi is still in that same space - do you think it would be available?
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aaronpk with that assumption, yes!
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tantek awesome! we'll go with it and adapt as necessary if things change.
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brennannovak sounds good to me
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tantek did anyone meet Brent Rieck this weekend? @bsr
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tantek or how about Dann Stayskal? (I think I saw him on day 1) @danndalf
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aaronpk yea pretty sure danndalf was there. I don't remember seeing @bsr tho
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tantek how about Taizoon Doctor (@taizoon) - anybody see him/her?
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aaronpk yes, he came on saturday
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aaronpk he was helping set up the keg too
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tantek oh great!
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tantek I didn't see Edward Irby (castersblues.com) though - did you see him?
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tantek his mentor Jillian was only there Saturday I think
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aaronpk doesn't sound familiar
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tantek was Teejay VanSlyke around the first day possibly?
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aaronpk I think so
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tantek ok cool. I also didn't see Kirsten Commandich, Lyza, or Petra
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aaronpk that sounds correct
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tantek ok folks, the 2013 Guest List page is setup! RSVP now for IndieWebCamp 2013 June 22-23 in Portland: http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/Guest_List
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tantek hurry! spots are going fast! ;)
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aaronpk at this rate the spots will fill up in a few minutes!
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tantek brennannovak, donpdonp - the 2013 RSVP page is up: http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/Guest_List
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donpdonp tantek: thx
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brennannovak tantek: sweet, thanks!
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donpdonp is the 2012 group photo up?
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aaronpk I haven't seen reid's yet
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brennannovak tantek: re: doing IWC in Brighton- would we be using the same wiki site?
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tantek yes we would
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jancborchardt donpdonp: it’s on aaronpk s Flickr I htink
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aaronpk yes mine is on flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/7475833704/in/set-72157630360840208
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aaronpk but reids will look better because he has a nicer camera
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aaronpk oops i'm not in that one
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aaronpk here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/7475834776/in/set-72157630360840208/
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tantek aaronpk - great shot (except somehow I'm staring off into space)
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tantek much better
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jancborchardt yeah that’s the best
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brennannovak whoa, that notification got pushed to my IRC --> Growl before the Wiki page finished loading the save
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aaronpk yea.. that happens for me too
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tantek brennan - you look so different from your Flickr avatar!
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donpdonp brennannovak: http://donpark.org/i/wiki-fuu.png :)
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tantek was that a wiki-edit collision?
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donpdonp yes.
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donpdonp i thought it was funny.
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brennannovak tantek: hehe yah that picture was from like 4 years ago, the night Amber got me to join Twitter... we were wearing ridiculous fake mustaches
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brennannovak donpdonp: sorry mang!
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donpdonp brennannovak: :)
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tantek ok I think I've tagged everyone I can find on Flickr and actually recognize - wow so many new people at IndieWebCamp!
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tantek please add more people tags: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/7475834776
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@socialigniter Really great group photo of #IndieWebCamp 2012 http://t.co/th6Gy2yC
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aaronpk hmm you got most of them that I nkow!
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aaronpk added a couple, but a few people don't have flickr accounts
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tantek jancborchardt - are you on Flickr?
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brennannovak tantek: btw, Mark Hendrickson wrote me- they said they actually sold Plancast, it's just currently being maintained
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tantek oh interesting - has the sale been publicly reported?
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aaronpk ah that makes more sense
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tantek and did the new owners disclose any plans for it?
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aaronpk I remember reading his wrap-up post about "why plancast failed"
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tantek aaronpk - would be great to perhaps crop your photo a bit tighter and upload it to the IndieWebCamp wiki, perhaps place it vertically above (before) the 2011 photo
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tantek (on the home page)
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aaronpk cool, will do when I get back to a computer with photoshop
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