#indiewebcamp 2012-10-03

2012-10-03 UTC
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Loqi aaronpk_: tantek left you a message 6 days, 5 hours ago: looks like indieauth.com fails with http://gordonbrander.com/ "Internal Server Error" (e.g. when trying to sign-in to the IndieWebCamp wiki)
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Loqi aaronpk_: tantek left you a message 6 days, 5 hours ago: … and he's got a rel-me to a Twitter URL so that should work
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Loqi aaronpk_: tantek left you a message 5 days, 8 hours ago: - how's that indieauth plugin for mediawiki coming along?
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Loqi aaronpk_: tantek left you a message 10 hours, 38 minutes ago: special page link bug, this page: http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?title=Special:UserLogout links the text "log in again" errantly to http://indiewebcamp.com/Special:OpenIDLogin whereas it should link to http://indiewebcamp.com/Special:UserLogin
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Loqi aaronpk_: tantek left you a message 10 hours, 37 minutes ago: - or you could give me admin privs to edit http://indiewebcamp.com/Special:UserLogout directly to fix it - assuming that's an admin editable page instead of a page to edit by hand/vi in the DB/server.
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /POSSE (+138) "/* Sites */ Added details for WPC syndication" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /feeds (-180) "Removed redundant info" (view diff)
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@xtof_fr "Radio caméléon" chez @lesinrocks - @thbaumg (un Kfé un de ces jours pour parler #indieweb ?) http://twitter.com/xtof_fr/status/253463836705845250/photo/1
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@xtof_fr C'est quoi ce #POSSE ? Traduction á relire/raffiner/compléter destinée aux amis #indieweb http://christopheducamp.com/wiki/POSSE
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tantek nice xtof_fr
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tantek feel free to edit/contribute directly to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE-fr also - ok if it is in progress :)
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xtof_fr @t thx. sure this preliminary draft will be posted after dinner ;)
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tantek great! :)
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christopheducamp.com created /POSSE-fr (+6956) "[fr: first draft translation of POSSE - to be reviewed and studied]" (view diff)
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tantek great!
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tantek hey barnabywalters you asked something about 4am my time and I was asleep ;)
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barnabywalters tantek: Oops! Usually I’m alright dealing with the whole time zone thing. Slipped my mind that time :)
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christopheducamp.com created /syndication-models-fr (+905) "[fr: first draft translation of original - a PESOS's wanted page]" (view diff)
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barnabywalters xtof_fr: Thanks for doing the translations! There’s something really satisfying about seeing some text I’ve written translated into French :)
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xtof_fr @barnabywalters : hey I'm just dreaming of a sort of wikilog-POSSE while listening an amazing Toccata http://xtof.me/wiki/2012-10-02#cite_note-7 ;)
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barnabywalters xtof_fr: I love your daily wiki pages! I’ve been doing a similar thing recently but just for todo items initially
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Loqi gives barnabywalters a backrub
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barnabywalters WTF loqi?
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barnabywalters That is creepy
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tantek haha
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tantek ]
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tommorris watch out, I have been known to flirt with IRC bots.
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barnabywalters tommorris: I believe loqi is particularly fun to flirt with :) aaronpk built some fun stuff in
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tommorris Loqi: hey baby, wanna come back to my place and PuSH some feeds?
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tommorris strikes that one off the IRL chatup line list.
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barnabywalters tommorris++
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Loqi tommorris has 1 karma
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christopheducamp.com created /PESOS-fr (+1622) "[fr: first draft translation of original page - added <references /> : notes de traduction still searching a french Acronym ?]" (view diff)
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tantek xtof_fr - is there a good way to link between translations of a page and the original? e.g. does Wikipedia have a convention we can copy on indiewebcamp.com?
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christopheducamp.com created /discovery-fr (+81) "[fr: translation to be done wanted-page for [[POSSE-fr]] - inclusion {{:discovery}}]" (view diff)
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tantek purpose: to make it easier to discover a translation of a page from the page itself
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xtof_fr @t : sure. still trying to understand template on wikipedia - still not sure if this is the good way : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mod%C3%A8le:En - #todo : will ask on #wikimedia channel
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tommorris xtof_fr: what's the issue?
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tommorris oh, tantek listed the issue
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tommorris so, yeah, scoping. ;-)
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tommorris <a lang="en" hreflang="en" …>
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tommorris could probably do <a rel="alternate" hreflang="fr" href="…">
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tantek tommorris - yeah http://microformats.org/wiki/rel-alternate#alternate_language_versions
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tommorris has horrifying memories of the last Wikipedia fundraiser and badly localised banners on RTL wikis. ;-)
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tantek I was more asking about presentational / stylistic conventions
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tantek the markup is easy :)
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tommorris so, wikipedia has 'em all in a nice sidebar
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tommorris a slightly better example might be Commons
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tommorris if you have one wiki rather than separate language wikis
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tantek right, just one wiki
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tommorris Commons is supposed to be a unified one-language wiki
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tantek we use the -aa suffix convention, where aa = language code
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tommorris so, the top of https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Scope for instance
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tommorris that's pretty representative of other Wikimedia multilingual wikis like meta, outreach etc.
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tommorris I believe the template xtof_fr pointed to is one you put after links to note their language. (ideally, that should be presentational and put into CSS. might try and nudge en.wp to do that.)
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tommorris that said, after the clusterfuck of confusion that was the Memento RfC, I'm loathed to make technical suggestions on en.wikipedia.org ;-)
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tantek cool - figured there were some existing conventions we could copy
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