#indiewebcamp 2013-02-04

2013-02-04 UTC
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@RavenVinnie IndieWeb Showcase: No Bikini (Short Film by Claudia Morgado Escanilla) http://ravenvinnie.wordpress.com/2013/02/03/indieweb-showcase-no-bikini-short-film-by-claudia-morgado-escanilla/
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tantek good morning #indiewebcamp!
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aaronpk good morning!
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tommorris hey tantek
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tommorris a post I made on my site today got to the top slot of Hacker News. my VPS hosting has held up just fine
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hadleybeeman Morning, dearies
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tommorris hey hadleybeeman
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tantek tommorris - very nice
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tommorris no caching beyond Rails defaults
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hadleybeeman tommorris - it's a good post. Are you getting comments anywhere?
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aaronpk oh nice! It's #5 right now!
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tommorris hadleybeeman: nope. just twitter and hacker news.
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hadleybeeman I was wondering if the high volume was people agreeing with you or just pulled in by your headline.
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tommorris mostly agreeing
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tommorris haven't had anything negative or trollish through on Twitter
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aaronpk I saw the headline yesterday and actually thought it was about retail store apps. surprised that it's about news apps!
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hadleybeeman aaronpk, I was similarly confused. But it got me to read it.
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aaronpk I thought it was going to be about those signs you see in front of stores or in malls saying "download your app"
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aaronpk our*
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aaronpk but yea, good post
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aaronpk favorite line: "Do I buy a separate radio to listen to different stations?"
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tommorris so, crowdsourced translation seems like a useful application of some kind of indie web of trust
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tantek tommorris - wonderful rant. love it.
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tommorris it's a bit sweary, but fun. created based on actual frustration from the other day when browsing a lot of news sites and being constantly hawked apps
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hadleybeeman It's clear. Having spent the weekend with parents and grandparents, tommorris, I've been very aware of how much they will just take something (like an app) because they're told to. Your metaphors help explain to the non-techie what choices they have.
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tommorris You might want to omit the numerous uses of the word "fucking" in the same sentence before passing it on to grandparents. ;)
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tommorris although my dear departed maternal grandmother swore like a sailor.
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hadleybeeman Yeah, I thought that, along with "or some bullshit like that" might turn them off. But the sentiment is sound.
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tommorris perhaps someone can translate it into en-GB-vicar.
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hadleybeeman likes this
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tantek "how much they will just take something (like an app) because they're told to" - yeah, that problem. Hence, marketers!
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tantek tommorris - adding a bit more fuel to your fire. ;)
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tommorris tantek: just saw. thanks
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tantek wow I just read Parmenter's post. now I'm *really* angry.
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tantek http://www.sazzy.co.uk/2013/02/speaking-up/
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tommorris just reading. holy fuck
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tommorris reposts to Reddit and then to his personal site.
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tantek is having trouble phrasing a post - too angry
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tommorris I've seen friends go through similar things far too often that I've become jaded.
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tantek coming up with phrases like… "Dear sexist fucks in tech. GTFO."
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tantek would sound better in an English accent for sure.
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tantek ok I somehow made it a bit more positive
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tantek can't believe this shit is still going on in 2013
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ianloic wow
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tantek I need to go take a walk around the building
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hadleybeeman Yeah, I read it earlier today. It's pretty horrifying.
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tantek was so angry as to have fingers shaking while typing.
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hadleybeeman It's also sad that the community is such that she wasn't sure she could bring this up. SHE shouldn't be blamed for any of it.
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tantek hadleybeeman - exactly. and why I posted the note I did.
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hadleybeeman Which note, tantek?
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tantek https://twitter.com/t/status/298486796847808512
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@t Dear @sazzy, you are awesome in speaking &amp
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Loqi speaking up: http://t.co/HEC1hdpJ Keep speaking &amp
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Loqi writing
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Loqi damn the trolls (ttk.me t4NL4)
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hadleybeeman Well said.
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tantek aaronpk, Loqi is over-escaping &s ^^^^
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Loqi is done
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hadleybeeman I think (hope) the more outrage we share over something like this, the more the few trolls will realise it isn't acceptable behaviour.
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hadleybeeman (And that the rest of the world is watching. This isn't just passing-notes-in-school territory anymore)
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tommorris also, Hacker News is predictably predictable.
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hadleybeeman True, tommorris, but that doesn't make it okay.
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hadleybeeman (IMO)
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tommorris 135,473 page views today.
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cgcardona If you're referring to http://tommorris.org/posts/8070. yea everyone is mentioning it.
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tommorris yeah. I'm embarassed in a British way.
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cgcardona :-] I'm stoked for you in an American way. Nice work
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cgcardona and (completely anecdotally) when I worked at Trulia my least favorite feature that I owned and the one that I heard the most negative feedback on was our damn mobile web interstitial.
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cgcardona Nobody like that crap
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aaronpk tommorris: awesome
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