#indiewebcamp 2013-02-25

2013-02-25 UTC
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@acarrabino RT @t: Time to upgrade literacy. Introducing Mozilla Webmaker: http://t.co/x6R8a4Q5. video: http://www.youtube.com/ #indieweb (ttk.me t4J21)
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tommorris windwo 15
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@CraigSJ 6.9 for Amok? Indieweb insurrection in 3... 2...
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@ryannichols7 #lowballed RT ”@CraigSJ 6.9 for Amok? Indieweb insurrection in 3... 2...
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@BarnabyWalters Diaspora Export: Quickly generate a JSON file of all your public #diaspora posts #indieweb #ownyourcontent (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1000/)
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barnabywalters ^ my 1000th (or 1000th numbered, at least) post is a tool I made to liberate data stuck in a diaspora pod
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barnabywalters turns out D*’s data export function does not include your posts :/
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barnabywalters it includes post ids (not URLs), and the ids (again, no URLs) of contacts, but almost none of the data the user *actual
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barnabywalters actually authored
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tommorris heh. but it's decentralized! therefore all the problems go away! ;)
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Loqi THEREFORE ALL THE PROBLEMS http://loqi.me/6aw
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tantek oh dear that's too bad about D*
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tantek !tell barnabywalters could you add your export tool (and any other commentary, e.g. about D* export function limitations) to http://indiewebcamp.com/Diaspora ? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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Loqi barnabywalters: tantek left you a message 19 minutes ago: could you add your export tool (and any other commentary, e.g. about D* export function limitations) to http://indiewebcamp.com/Diaspora ? Thanks!
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barnabywalters good plan
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@BarnabyWalters @laurakalbag no, no, no, the #indieweb web is the future :) Not any one silo. (http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1001/)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /Diaspora (+1154) "Bulked out page, added link to diaspora-export" (view diff)
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@BarnabyWalters .@laurakalbag “on your own space” is important but *not* a prerequisite of #indieweb. The domain name is the most… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1003/
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@sophiedennis @BarnabyWalters I agree with @laurakalbag : the challenge for #indieweb is ease-of-use - that, not privacy/control, is how platforms win
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@BarnabyWalters @sophiedennis one of the interesting things about #indiewebcamp is that there’s almost no discussion about privacy o… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/1005/
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barnabywalters argh. twitter is *really* not optimal for discussions
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aaronpk no, no it's not
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barnabywalters really, it’s just pub/sub/notification infrastructure
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aaronpk this is actually a good use case for branch
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aaronpk disregarding the non-indieweb aspects of it for a moment
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barnabywalters yeah, branch’s UI and structure is great
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aaronpk i feel like a lot of people use branch for quora-like discussions, which always feels awkward to me
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aaronpk but for a converstaion that starts on twitter and needs a place to grow, that's a much better use
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barnabywalters do they have an "import twitter conversation" feature, where you give them a tweet URL and they auto-invite all the participants and summarise what’s been said so far?
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aaronpk haha that'd be awesome
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Loqi rofl
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Loqi INVITE ALL THE PARTICIPANTS http://loqi.me/6b1
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barnabywalters seems like a no-brainer, if twitter => branch is happening
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barnabywalters pave the cowpaths, and so forth
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aaronpk yes...yes they do http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8378/8507280743_f1aa2a00ca_o.png
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barnabywalters cool
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aaronpk let's see what happens
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aaronpk aw man it tweeted out three tweets from me
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barnabywalters did it not ask your permission
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aaronpk well it must have asked to post when I first logged in to branch
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aaronpk but that was a few months ago, and I haven't used it
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aaronpk it didn't tell me it was going to tweet, it just said "we'll notify..."
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barnabywalters when I was complaining to chrismessina about branch, they explicitly mentioned that it would *never* send tweets without asking
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aaronpk well now there's a "tweet your response" checkbox in the thread
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barnabywalters btw aaronpk, does your interest in quantified self stuff extend beyond your amazing location work?
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aaronpk of course!
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barnabywalters how about analysing your usage of iOS devices?
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barnabywalters I’m working on some scripts to parse iOS diagnostic reports
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aaronpk oh? that'd be interesting
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barnabywalters giving access to all sorts of fun stuff like app activations, app activation time, background processing time
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barnabywalters and so on
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aaronpk i would love to hear what you find!
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barnabywalters I’ll make the scripts public as soon as they’re more substantial
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barnabywalters preview of their current status: http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/977/
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barnabywalters goodnight all
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Loqi sweet dreams
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tantek.com edited /2012/Identity_on_the_Web_Review (+50) "linky linky" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /SharingWithCircles (+12) "linky linky" (view diff)
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@silverton #IdesOfFacebook #OwnYourData #OwnYourIdentity #FederatedWeb
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@laurakalbag @bastianallgeier Bastian, meet @BarnabyWalters. I believe you two will get along, and share many #indieweb beliefs.
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /SharingWithCircles (+448) "Added my example, thoughts and challenges" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /SharingWithCircles (+101) "note indieauth based access control" (view diff)
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tommorris oh god, XRD still exists?
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /Diaspora (+129) "/* IWC Attendee Articles */ added link to my diaspora article" (view diff)
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@sophiedennis @BarnabyWalters yes, let's. Feels a very #digpen thing generally. Will put UK #indiewebcamp in dairy cc @laurakalbag
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tantek hey indieweb folks, check out the text-selection UI on this article: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112485/aaron-swartz-profile-internet-will-never-save-you
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tantek try selecting some text, and then note the little popup that shows up, # of chars selected, links for twitter, tumblr, facebook
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aaronpk that's nice! it's missing a "permalink" option tho :)
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tantek !tell barnabywalters you should in particular check out the text selection UI on this article: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/112485/aaron-swartz-profile-internet-will-never-save-you - what would be a good "webactions" solution, as well as what would an "indieweb" link/button look like?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek aaronpk - yeah, whatever happened to "blog this"
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tommorris I'm hoping this is something the browser can fix.
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tommorris all these share this things are really crappy. about every 3-4 weeks at wikipedia we have to explain to someone why we don't have tweet this/facebook this/whatever links all over the site
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tommorris which basically boils down to [because NASCAR problem, because most of them are tracking-cookie-infested and we give a shit about your privacy]
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tantek tommorris - and ironic that Wikipedia deleted our article on the NASCAR problem right
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tommorris well, yes, we do take the GNG quite seriously.
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tantek GNG?
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tommorris General Notability Guidelines. http://enwp.org/WP:GNG
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tommorris it's what most deletion debates revolve around. I can pretty much recite it in my sleep at this point. ;)
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