#indiewebcamp 2013-04-15

2013-04-15 UTC
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christopheducamp.com edited /Twitter-fr (+14) "/* POSSEr les Notes sur Twitter */ typo + grammar" (view diff)
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@xtof_fr #IndieWeb. "POSSEr" un article vers Twitter. Test de #publicize (http://christopheducamp.com/blog/b/HvH) http://christopheducamp.com/blog/b/HvH
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aaronpk christopheducamp: just got some pingbacks from http://christopheducamp.com/blog/test-indieweb-parvenir-a-posser-un-article-vers-twitter/!
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christopheducamp thanks aaron. just testing pingback and POSSE… problem of duplication of links within post. WIll have to study how to suppress the original permalink.
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@xtof_fr #indieweb : test envoi de WordPress vers Twitter via #SharePress (P.J. image #UI - sans permalien) http://christopheducamp.com/blog/test-sharepress-posse/
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tantek christopheducamp are you sending webmentions from http://christopheducamp.com now?
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christopheducamp tantek : test of POSSE via http://christopheducamp.com/blog/test-indieweb-parvenir-a-posser-un-article-vers-twitter/ - a wordpress instance with various extensions. currently editing a post. hope you don't mind ?
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tantek not at all! nice styling in your post. and I see the h-cite too! :)
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tantek (I'm still struggling with figuring out how to best use h-cite with quotes/cites of notes)
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tantek I appreciate your example
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tantek.com edited /projects (+67) "/* WordPress */ http://christopheducamp.com/" (view diff)
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tantek christopheducamp could you document which various extensions you're using on your WordPress instance? Perhaps here? http://indiewebcamp.com/projects#WordPress (could give each extension it's own subheading as well)
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tantek thanks!
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christopheducamp tantek sure. as soon as as I'll finish my round-tests around #SharePress #JetPack (Publicize module) and #Social. Will probably write some words on the wiki and drop a link like that : http://xtof.me/blog/test-indieweb-parvenir-a-posser-un-article-vers-twitter/#wp-extensions-posse if it's ok ?
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tantek am I the last one to notice Twitter preserving white-space (linebreaks) on Twitter.com?
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tantek seems like an interesting twist in how "notes" are created, posted, displayed
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tantek is thinking about adding linebreak preservation to his notes too
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aaronpk i've been seeing people use that to do "interesting" formatting things in tweets, shows up in the mobile app too
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tantek the mobile app (Tweetie) has had it for a while
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tantek twitter.com having it is relatively new - just a month judging from the blog posts I've been researching about it
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aaronpk you can do stuff like "long cat\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\n\nis long"
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tantek I hadn't even noticed that Twitter.com had it until Ben Ward casually mentioned it to me yesterday and I was lik "WHAT?!?"
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tantek aaronpk - best examples so far are in this article: http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/14/what-are-twitter-line-breaks-good-for/
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tantek oh my goodness - a chess game in a thread: https://twitter.com/alapapa/status/312053522755641344
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@alapapa ♜♞♝♚♛♝♞♜
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tantek LOL!
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aaronpk c-c-c-c-c-combo breaker!
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aaronpk way to go tantek
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tantek aaronpk, sorry. why does Loqi take its time with multiline tweets like that?
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tommorris tantek: anti-flooding protection for Freenode
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aaronpk IRC rate limits
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tantek makes sense
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aaronpk freenode doesn't let you send more than one line every n seconds, most clients try to throttle messages so they don't get auto-banned
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tommorris I learned this the hard way when I streamed all of the UK election tweets into IRC live using the Twitter streaming API
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aaronpk hah
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tantek heh - oops
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tantek so - linebreaks in notes - what do you guys think? aaronpk tommorris
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tantek I mean, if they're part of what you can POSSE out to Twitter, then it makes sense to display them on your own site as well right?
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aaronpk i've been using it on my site already a little
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tantek aaronpk - example URL?
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aaronpk here's one: http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/03/31/2/this-is-what-email-would-have-looked-like
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aaronpk http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/02/12/1/downtown-power-outage
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aaronpk http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/01/02/1/google-chrome-search
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aaronpk oh here's a fun one: http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2012/12/23/2/ruby-nilclass
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aaronpk one more: http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2012/11/17/2/localtime
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tantek aaronpk - did any of these actually POSSE the linebreaks to Twitter?
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aaronpk hm not sure.. I know some of them I manually POSSE'd and removed the "rich" content and replaced with a link to my post
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tantek e.g. this one didn't: http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2013/01/02/1/google-chrome-search
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tantek this one seems to have had the chance, but looks like you chose to truncate it really short and link to it on your own site instead: https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/283018480909967360
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@aaronpk Dear Ruby people, is there any reason I should not do this: http://t.co/wh6FKLqk
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tantek the chess tweet examples makes me think we could use it for an IndieWeb version of correspondence chess: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Correspondence_chess
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tantek with webmentions back and forth for each move
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aaronpk lol! that would be hilarious
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tantek and all POSSEd to Twitter with in-reply-to-status-id set to POSSE'd copies so that people could view the game on Twitter as well
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tantek wonders if the activity streams folks came up with a "game move" activity
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aaronpk funny thing is anybody could join in on the game, forking the game and making another game thread with another player
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tantek aaronpk - true! that would be really interesting. then whoever got multiple responses to their "move" could decide which game to play (or both!)
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tantek ooh - just found this, interesting UI treatment/analysis of activity streams: http://ui-patterns.com/patterns/ActivityStream
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tantek hmm, they have a game objecttype and win/lose/tie verbs
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tantek but nothing for moves / turns
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tantek https://github.com/activitystreams/activity-schema/blob/master/activity-schema.md#object-types
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tantek why does Loqi provide content from Tweet URLs but not others?
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Loqi yeah!
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tantek :D
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aaronpk loqi is a prankster
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barnabywalters I wonder what da vinci would have thought of the note vs article debate… his notes are interestingly structured
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barnabywalters some of them don’t have a title at all and are tweet/short blog post length, then there are some with just as much variation in length which do have titles (usually “on X” or “how to depict Y”)
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barnabywalters then there are multiple notes without a title, all of which come under a broader heading
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barnabywalters then there are reams and reams of blog-length articles, essentially trolling poets
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tommorris s/da vinci/Leonardo/g
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tommorris </pedant>
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barnabywalters tommorris: whatever ;p
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barnabywalters tommorris: top google suggestion for “da vinci” is da vinci demons, top for “leonardo” is de caprio. Not great either way :/
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christopheducamp.com edited /projects (+989) "/* WordPress */ added some WP extensions tested : HUM (URL-shortener). "POSSE 2 twitter" : Publicize-JetPack, Social and SharePress (examples on a WP instance)" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /note (+1632) "white space in notes" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /note (+825) "/* White space */ chess game tweet, citations for Twitter.com support of whitespace presentation" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /rel-syndication (+296) "some details, explicitly note u-syndication" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /syndication (+124) "disambig: rel-syndication" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /in-reply-to (+22) "see also rel syndication" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /note (+322) "/* Use Cases */ more indieweb chess thoughts" (view diff)
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