#indiewebcamp 2013-06-24
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@erik_paulson It looks like there were some really awesome projects at #indiewebcamp that might/hopefully someday will be part of the net infrastructure
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@anildash @kevinmarks can you tell everybody at #indiewebcamp hi? Wish I coulda a been there to talk @thinkup with everybody, but sounds like fun!
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@enneff RT @bradfitz: Camlistore 0.2 is now out: https://camlistore.org/docs/release/0.2 ... #golang #indiewebcamp
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sandeepshetty !tell barnabywalters: was re-sending webmention I had received to fix date issues and it looks like somethings not right with your mf2 (or the parser): http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QdGxv/ (webmention to: http://www.sandeep.io/64)
# sandeepshetty melvster_: hey
# sandeepshetty we were thinking of a good rel name for the object being liked: http://indiewebcamp.com/responses
# sandeepshetty I was wondering if you've done something like this with rdf and had a suggestion
# sandeepshetty object-of-like seems to be the best one so far
# sandeepshetty from the perspective of rel names being the object, the object-of-verb seems like the best option to me so far
# sandeepshetty !tell barnabywalters: it seems to work fine when I resent the webmention for http://www.sandeep.io/39 so there is something about that http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QdGxv/ that messes with php-mf2 maybe?
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# sandeepshetty melvster_: I gotta really get some sleep now (it's 6 AM).. but if you have links to conversation about this could you just leave them here... thanks
# www.metamage.com edited /2013/Guest_List (+245) "/* Creators */ Josh Juran signing the guest book" (view diff)
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@TeaWithCarl RT @kevinmarks: #indiewebcamp @bradfitz: send an email to http://webfist.org to set a key, read back as a webfinger query http://t.co/…
# www.sandeep.io edited /comment-propagation (+168) "/* Issues */ Added an issue raised by pfefferle and signed barnabywalters comments." (view diff)
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@kevinmarks @anildash @thinkup I think @ginatrapani would have loved #indiewebcamp we need better stats on our stuff
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@sandeepshetty Dealing with "liking" mutable things on the #indieweb as opposed to immutable things on silos... http://www.sandeep.io/84
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:indie-web-camp-2013.jpg]]""
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@benwerd I've had more fun at #indiewebcamp than I have with computers in a very long time. You should get involved: http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/view/51c7ba02bed7deb9163567f6 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Main_Page (pingback)
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@taraplatt @SuperKnockedUp is up for indie soaps award this week - best couple/best show/etc http://www.welovesoaps.net/2013/06/indie-june-16-22.html #indieweb #superherosupervillian
# dreeves indiewebbers are super dreamy. sorry we had to leave a bit early!
# dreeves danny reeves of beeminder
# dreeves (with the children and the google glass)
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@harlantwood RT @datacosmos: #dataecosystems #indiewebcamp Mycelial networks of autonomous nodes will replace the skyscraper models of today.
# dreeves indeed! i think we chatted more last year than this year. fewer distractions that time i guess
# dreeves (speaking to brett in particular there)
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# dreeves oh, wait, sorry, not brett slatkin then. ok, i also need a reminder then!
# dreeves gets his bret(t)s straight
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@indiewebcamp RT @benwerd: I've had more fun at #indiewebcamp than I have with computers in a very long time. You should get involved: http://t.co/K4C3xF…
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# aaronparecki.com created /Category:Schedule (+38) "Created page with "Past schedules for IndieWebCamp events"" (view diff)
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# aaronparecki.com created /Category:Demos (+48) "Created page with "Demo pages from previous IndieWebCamp [[events]]"" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com created /Category:Session_List (+42) "Created page with "Session lists from IndieWebCamp [[events]]"" (view diff)
# aaronparecki.com created /Category:Guest_List (+49) "Created page with "Guest lists from previous IndieWebCamp [[events]]"" (view diff)
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@sgerrand RT @bradfitz: Camlistore 0.2 is now out: https://camlistore.org/docs/release/0.2 ... #golang #indiewebcamp
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@jeromerenard RT @bradfitz: Camlistore 0.2 is now out: https://camlistore.org/docs/release/0.2 ... #golang #indiewebcamp
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@pfefferle RT @benwerd: I've had more fun at #indiewebcamp than I have with computers in a very long time. You should get involved: http://t.co/K4C3xF…
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bret is anyone able to tell why why why this MF isnt parsing correctly? http://bret.io/2013/06/23/t3/
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@erinjo I broke many things at #indiewebcamp. A few that are workingish: BlipBits (http://erinjorichey.com/blipbits/?utm_source=buffer&utm_campaign=Buffer&utm_content=buffer72f80&utm_medium=twitter) &
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# @sandeepshetty RT @benwerd: I've had more fun at #indiewebcamp than I have with computers in a very long time. You should get involved: http://t.co/K4C3xF…
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pfefferle if you want another page to test http://notizblog.org/
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# sandeepshetty Yay! Where can I see them?
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# sandeepshetty Nice.
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# sandeepshetty think it was /indieweb-implementations
# sandeepshetty (Y) will resend your previous webmentions again and test.
# sandeepshetty Resent and dates showing up now on /39 & /73
# www.sandeep.io edited /indieweb-implementations (+63) "converspace now accepts pingback thanks to pingback.me" (view diff)
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /indieweb-implementations (+48) "Taproot accepts comments is webmention" (view diff)
# sandeepshetty It's so cool to have comments & likes working :) http://www.sandeep.io/84
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# eschnou bret, it is weird I did not get your author url, and I can see it well in the markdown... did you change something ? can you try again ?
# eschnou :-)
# eschnou then i'll delete the current one and let you ping again
# eschnou ok for you ?
# eschnou bret, great ! welcome to the federation !
# eschnou bret, I'm busy on other projects at the moment, but yes, when I get some time i'll add webmention and the latest things like favorites etc, should be quick. My next goal is to have following/follower, building an #indiefeed i can follow from my client.
# eschnou but I guess that will be for next indiewebcamp :-)
# eschnou bret, I have a atom/as strea right now, which is PuSH enabled. But for #indiefeed I think I'll just do polling on the author url and parse the mf2 feed. Much simpler. No paralell API.
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# sandeepshetty so I landed up in #indieweb by mistake and there actually is someone there :D
# sandeepshetty I'm sure he's wondering where everyone else is? :p
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# sandeepshetty is it rel-self?
# sandeepshetty doens't sound right (re self)
# pfefferle sandeepshetty: http://notizblog.org/2013/06/20/5231/
# sandeepshetty that's looking really good....
# sandeepshetty BTW, you need a h-card.photoon your site :)
# sandeepshetty *photo
# sandeepshetty pfefferle: what was the context in which you wanted to point to the original post?
# sandeepshetty just added or was it always there?
# sandeepshetty ah yes.. I already got your photo links on /39
# sandeepshetty the rel will apply to the whole page...
# sandeepshetty so it will relate the whole post with the link in the rel.. I'm guessing that's not what you want
# sandeepshetty rel-anything will be weird unless you have a permalink for the comment
# sandeepshetty looks like I have encoding issues...
# sandeepshetty pfefferle: once you have permalink per comment then I think rel-canonical is the one you want
# sandeepshetty but you should check with someone who knows better ;)
# sandeepshetty so it looks like doing htmlentities is messing with the comment...
# sandeepshetty I took it out and it work fine.. but that's just insecure.. any ideas?
# sandeepshetty fixed!
# sandeepshetty looking to add support for undoing(/delete) webmentions tonight.... outta here.. later
# sandeepshetty pfefferle: I meant remote undo to allow for unliking after you've liked..
# sandeepshetty :) I ended up using htmlspecialchars.. need to figure out later if that's enough...
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# erikmaarten good evening! Can h-card be anywhere on a page for a post, or does it have to be inside the h-entry?
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# sandeepshetty erikmaarten: http://indiewebcamp.com/authorship
# acegiak pfefferle: http://pastebin.com/uWtCLmJx is the response from hitting webmention with curl, I don't understand the x-pingback 404 bit
# erikmaarten thanks sandeepshetty, exactly what I needed! :)
# sandeepshetty acegiak: yep. thanks.
# sandeepshetty erikmaarten: I used to have a p-author per h-entry... now I just a root h-card
# sandeepshetty yeah I saw some on your site about games... and some hardware hacking as well?
# sandeepshetty erikmaarten: and I don't think I follow /authorship exactly... but the root h-card works with most people..
# erikmaarten sandeepshetty: yeah, I had a look at your site and saw that, seems aaronpk does that too. I can't quite decide on which I'll go with, will see which turns out the best for my post design ...
# sandeepshetty erikmaarten: for me it was more dictated by my layout.. I used to show my h-card next to each post... now I don't
# sandeepshetty acegiak: I'm not much of a hardware guy but I'm looking forward to experimenting with rpi when I get some time.
# erikmaarten sandeepshetty: Yes, I'm thinking I'll adjust it for the layout too. It might not make much of a difference for me at this point because I'm not displaying any feeds, just single posts. Will eventually have feeds based on tag combinations though.
# sandeepshetty GN
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# sandeepshetty upgraded to the latest php-mf2 and it seems to have a parse error.. pfefferle: working for you?
# sandeepshetty man that sucks..
# sandeepshetty also what are all these includes: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/blob/master/webmention.php#L11
# sandeepshetty changing the code inside vendor means I can't upgrade easily.. will have to keep track of changes for each upgrade.
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# sandeepshetty pfefferle: raised an issue for it https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/issues/22
# sandeepshetty hey melvster_ do you have any links to previous discussion about the like rel (on any list)?
# sandeepshetty melvster_: or is y ou could tell me which list to look in I could search
# sandeepshetty pfefferle: how many instance of the [] short array syntax did you have to change and were there any other changes? I'm basically stuck till this fixed :(
# sandeepshetty thanks if it's not too much trouble.. you could also just tell me which list to search and I'll do it
# sandeepshetty bbiab
# melvster_ documented at http://ontologi.es/like
# melvster_ <#me> like:likes <http://dbpedia.org/resource/Coldplay> .
# sandeepshetty melvster_: good stuff.. will take a look at this in a bit.. and get back you.. playtime with my daughter now :)
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@ozten RT @benwerd: I've had more fun at #indiewebcamp than I have with computers in a very long time. You should get involved: http://t.co/K4C3xF…
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@BarnabyWalters I’m beginning to think that I want to store two broad categories of content on my #indieweb site, content which is d… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QfG2L/
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# @BarnabyWalters @zakkain good plan! So are you setting up #indieweb posting with POSSE on your domain? Also check out the work… http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QfGbM/
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# sandeepshetty where did you send it?
# sandeepshetty shouldn't be,.. I haven't changed anything..
# sandeepshetty on production at least
# sandeepshetty I need a /mentions route to see the latest mentions
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# sandeepshetty ok I now have a json serving http://www.sandeep.io/mentions
# sandeepshetty and I found your comment from there :)
# sandeepshetty it looks like duplicate entries though...
# sandeepshetty looking into that
# sandeepshetty I have a unique key on post_id and hash (UNIQUE KEY `post_source` (`post_id`,`source_hash`)) so it shouldn't have two entries with the same post_id and source
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@egadenne #IndieAuth #IndieWeb ready!! http://instagram.com/p/a8xmxBHkZ_/
# pfefferle sandeepshetty: they are unique http://notizblog.org/2013/06/20/5231/#comments
# sandeepshetty pfefferle: looking good btw
# sandeepshetty pfefferle: ah the query string is diff...
# sandeepshetty cool that had me worried for a bit :p
# sandeepshetty yeah.. does wordpress let you do it with paths as well?
# sandeepshetty cool.. this is good
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# waterpigs.co.uk edited /2013/Marketing_Jam_Session (+2214) "archived notes from etherpad" (view diff)
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# sandeepshetty !tell barnabywalters: Just tested updating my comment on your site. Worked like a charm :)
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# sandeepshetty melvster_: the likes that you had implement have to be done on the target site right?
# sandeepshetty s/implement/implemented
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# @kevinmarks @debcha true, but these initiation things do form a bond. The #indiewebcamp "must sign in with relmeauth" worked that way this weekend.
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# Loqi barnabywalters: sandeepshetty left you a message on 6/23 at 5:38pm: was re-sending webmention I had received to fix date issues and it looks like somethings not right with your mf2 (or the parser): http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QdGxv/ (webmention to: http://www.sandeep.io/64)
# Loqi barnabywalters: sandeepshetty left you a message on 6/23 at 5:46pm: it seems to work fine when I resent the webmention for http://www.sandeep.io/39 so there is something about that http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QdGxv/ that messes with php-mf2 maybe?
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barnabywalters sandeepshetty: fixed and fixed and yay!
# barnabywalters which comment did you update?
# sandeepshetty I see you playing with delete action on comments?
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: yeah, for some reason my edit UI js got pushed out to everyone
# sandeepshetty this one http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QfG2L/ (mutiple times now)
# barnabywalters fixing now
# barnabywalters I figured that now webmention comments are getting a little more popular I need to start proactively implementing moderation + spam
# barnabywalters starting with simple ability to delete comments
# barnabywalters now progressing onto contact list-based whitelisting
# barnabywalters starting with automatic adding of anyone I mention to my contact list
# barnabywalters and parsing their details off h-cards on their homepage
# barnabywalters then, in the future, parsing people *they* mention and whitelisting them too
# barnabywalters (“they” being all you good people)
# barnabywalters aaronpk: was thinking it would be a good excuse to put together a PuSH subscriber, to gain experience for either improving PuSH/PuSH-next and/or building feed reader type things
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aaronpk here is julien's code for a PuSH subscriber: https://gist.github.com/julien51/5724362
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# barnabywalters aaronpk: ah thanks for the link, that’s useful reference
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# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: nice... I don't have the concept of mentioning people.. my responses are to other url's... how do you handle mentioning ppl?
# barnabywalters aaronpk: double-replies FTW! did you send mentions? I’m not seeing comments on either of our sites
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: just link to their domain and send a mention there
# barnabywalters my autolinking goes @name -> twitter link -> indieweb link if they’re in my contacts list
# barnabywalters but so far I’ve had to manually add people
# barnabywalters next step is automating it
# sandeepshetty how and where in your note do you mark a domain as a person?
# sandeepshetty ah you use h-card?
# sandeepshetty to mark a url as a person?
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: usually at the beginning of the note, as per twitter convention, with h-card or h-x-username for only twitter links
# sandeepshetty I wanted to talk to you about that.. the @sandeep seems unnecessary...
# sandeepshetty like here: http://www.sandeep.io/84#comments it doesn't add anything to the comment...
# barnabywalters eventually I will probably remove the explicit mention
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# barnabywalters but a lot has to happen if I do — author h-card has to be present on remote site, I have to parse it and display it somewhere (esp. in list view), then add it as an @name in any syndicated copy of the reply
# sandeepshetty I can see the advantage of picking up e-content for comments.. hashtag links point to the source
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: yes, IMO important part of tags on the indieweb is their meaning is specific to each person
# barnabywalters e.g. my #web might refer to a slightly different usage to yours
# barnabywalters so it makes little sense to auto-link one persons tags to anothers’ tag pages
# sandeepshetty yeah.. I just don't auto-link quoted text and comments
# barnabywalters yeah, that’s a perfectly good solution
# sandeepshetty aaronpk: wanted to talk to you about indienews...
# sandeepshetty something about the idea of having a centralized aggregator doesn't feel right... it treats the aggregator as the root of the comment thread for e.g, http://news.indiewebcamp.com/post/aaronparecki.com/articles/2013/03/28/1/an-open-challenge-to-app-net
# sandeepshetty that doesn't feel right.. shouldn't everyone be commenting on the original target?
# sandeepshetty actually now that I read it again it does say use the original post in in0reply0to
# barnabywalters oh yeah aaronpk were you asking about u-syndication vs rel-syndication earlier?
# barnabywalters aaronpk: okay must be me getting mixed up
# sandeepshetty so you'll treat is just like syndicating to twitter?
# sandeepshetty I guess I'm trying to figure out how this fits in when we start following people..
# sandeepshetty (on our own sites)
# sandeepshetty the voting doesn't seem to fit in with that...
# sandeepshetty when I'm following people I might want my reader to rank based on how many people are sharing or mentioning a link
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# sandeepshetty I stop using hackernews, reddit etc a while ago..
# sandeepshetty I use my twitter follows to curate stuff for me..
# sandeepshetty I have private lists on twitter about various topics and the people I follow there ensure I get the "news"
# sandeepshetty sharing and mentioning publicly seems to be best way to "vote" than the black box vote of hackernews, etc.
# barnabywalters +1
# sandeepshetty plus voting at some other place feels sorta like sharecropping..
# sandeepshetty aaronpk: I cant see how many votes, who votes, etc...
# sandeepshetty its easy to game when it's not public..
# sandeepshetty is there some way we can do voting based on no of webmentions, responses, likes, etc on indienews?
# sandeepshetty some way where I don't have to visit indienews to vote.. just maybe follow it to get the links
# @indiewebcamp RT @ozten: Cool, it worked! And I've logged in via FirefoxOS phone SMS. https://secure.flickr.com/photos/ozten/9117250313/ https://secure.flickr.com/photos/ozten/9117242319/ #IndieWebCamp #Indi…
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@ppcblog WebUsage : The Independant Web (IndieWeb) http://webusage.blogspot.com/2013/06/the-independant-web-indieweb.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+Webusage+%28webusage%29 via @egadenne
# sandeepshetty argh.. urls with utms :p
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# sandeepshetty there is tracking there happening at so many level... t.co.. blogspot... GA...
# @indiewebcamp @ozten see and add to http://indiewebcamp.com/one-click-install an #indiewebcamp 2011 design hack session by http://t.co/LdymxxAJwK. ^@t
# sandeepshetty aaronpk: any chance you can add the login link on every page of the wiki or point to where I can send a pull request for it.... it's the biggest barrier to using the wiki ATM for me
# sandeepshetty oh!
# sandeepshetty there it is that little guy...
# sandeepshetty ok that'll do thanls
# barnabywalters aaronpk: oh just got that second comment
# www.sandeep.io edited /responses (+194) "/* Brainstorming */ Coming up with a good name for the "object of a like" is actually a problem of coming up with a name for objects of monotransitive verbs." (view diff)
# barnabywalters aaronpk: ah, sure thing.
# barnabywalters to anyone publishing reply contexts: how do you feel about making the reply contexts h-entries as the in-reply-to property of the parent h-entry?
# barnabywalters that’s what I’m doing at the mo and haven’t come across any problems with comment consumers demanding in-reply-to being a URL yet
# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: how does someone follow the thread if there isn't a url?
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: there is a URL, but instead of being h-entry.in-reply-to it’s h-entry.in-reply-to.url
# sandeepshetty melvster_: my understanding was that I have to come to your site, click on the like button, and then auth my self using webid?
# barnabywalters there’s *always* a URL ;)
# sandeepshetty so in-reply-to is actually p-in-reply-to instead of u-in-reply-to?
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: when I’m displaying a reply context, yes
# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: that feels a little weird
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: why? no different to p-comment — in fact, more consistent with p-comment
# barnabywalters and exposes the reply context as data to mf consumers
# sandeepshetty is sorry for using words like "feels" but it's because he first approaches it from intuition and then has to validate it with logic
# barnabywalters e.g. potential usage in conversation viewer/feed reader: displaying interim/preview copy of the replied-to content whilst fetching the full version
# sandeepshetty melvster_: how would setup something on my site to be able to like stuff on the sites of 2 other people?
# barnabywalters = better UX for the reader
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: nothing wrong with intuition, the process of trying to articulate it is almost always valuable in my experience at least
# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: so p-in-reply-to.p-summary and p-in-reply-to.url
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: see markup of for example http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QfGbM/
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@veganstraightedge @t et al. Could you write a good blog post about #indiewebcamp 2013 please?
# barnabywalters actually having said that it doesn’t seem to be working properly…?
# sandeepshetty don't see in-reply-to here http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwaterpigs.co.uk%2Fnotes%2F4QfGbM%2F
# barnabywalters ah this might be one of the little issues I spotted in the parser — some of the XPaths are not quite right
# barnabywalters interrupts hacking to write regression tests
# sandeepshetty melvster_: sorry did not undersand.. maybe will take a look at your page and see it makes sense
# barnabywalters aaronpk: does pin13 automatically use latest dev checkout of php-mf2 or latest tagged version?
# sandeepshetty melvster_: and how does the object of the like know that you've published that on your site?
# barnabywalters aaronpk: hm, I have seen other packagist projects use a dev-stable branch so you can require "dev@stable" which might be a good solution
# www.sandeep.io edited /responses (+141) "/* Brainstorming */ pointer to previous discussion about this by melvster_" (view diff)
# barnabywalters meh, actually any bugfixes should really just get a new tagged release. I don’t really care how big the numbers get, it just means I look like I’m doing more work ;)
# barnabywalters aaronpk: I’ll look into doing it, not an immediate priority though
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@obensource Returning from a week offline with family. Missed #indiewebcamp to spend time with my uncle who has contracted terminal cancer. Next year!
# barnabywalters aaronpk: apart from when I make stupid mistakes like adding PHP 5.4 syntax in a project with PHP 5.3 as the min version constraint, yes :)
# barnabywalters I always run the test suite before pushing
# sandeepshetty melvster_: right.. I'm for the former...
# barnabywalters melvster_: surely that is resolved by liking coldplay’s website if you like the band, and the wikipedia article if you like the writing
# barnabywalters certainly that is the indieweb approach — the URL is the thing
# sandeepshetty the way to solve that is that you always like the url not the thing it represent...
# barnabywalters melvster_: that is indeed an interesting edge case — I’m inclined to think anything like that would be dealt with on the human level
# barnabywalters e.g. by a comment saying “love the website! not great music though”
# barnabywalters melvster_: has this problem occurred in real-world usage?
# sandeepshetty !tell tantek: take a look at http://indiewebcamp.com/responses#Brainstorming when you have some time. I'm liking the object-for-verb template and it solves the problem of naming all types of responses.
# barnabywalters if not, I’m inclined to say meh, let’s design for humans and fix problems with the machines as and when they arise
# sandeepshetty the sematic web is about machines.. so you guys are at opposite ends :)
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: the capital-S semantic web is about machines ;) I’m heavily into the lower-case-s stuff :)
# sandeepshetty can't resolve this if the base assumptions are different :)
# sandeepshetty melvster_: RE http://graphite.ecs.soton.ac.uk/browser/?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fmelvincarvalho.com%2Flikes the currency metaphor is interesting.. how do you unlike in something like that?
# sandeepshetty !tell tantek I meant object-of-verb
# sandeepshetty melvster_: I'm liking how with webmention we can take back remote mentions and even change them. It feels like a complete system now.
# barnabywalters put it this way: who’s going to accept “dislikes” and display a count of them on their website ;)
# sandeepshetty aaronpk: RE http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QfG2L/ It's interesting that you made that a multi reply...
# sandeepshetty obviously someone can choose to not allow you to update/undo
# barnabywalters melvster_: sure, if you publish a dislike then it’s going to exist in the wild. but the big deal with indiecomments+likes is that the person displays them on their site
# barnabywalters by the very nature of them being positive/constructive
# sandeepshetty I've been thinking that multi-reply is part of 1-2% of use-cases.. but this is interesting....
# sandeepshetty aaronpk: I have seen the ones from the wiki..
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# sandeepshetty but I don't have that use case so it doesn't feel like it's going to be common for me..
# sandeepshetty plus you can get away with a single reply in most cases.. (with some loss of info)
# sandeepshetty (primarily loss of "linking")
# barnabywalters melvster_: yes, the differentiator being that ebay is the mutually trusted mediator. but I’d be fascinated to see what similar-but-distributed you’re working on/come up with!
# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: this doesn't read right (is trying hard not to use "feel"): also posted on twitter.com by Barnaby Walters (RE: http://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4QfG2L/)
# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: seems like "by" should be the most immediate thing next to the post?
# melvster_ barnabywalters: we have a similar system in bitcoin ... I'm just going to add the markup in the "rel" tags to make it machine readadable, portable agrregable (sp?) too ... http://bitcoin-otc.com/viewratingdetail.php?nick=jgarzik&sign=ANY&type=RECV
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: agreed, that layout is an interim hack to get things looking acceptable before I actually optimise my notes+comments design
# barnabywalters probably going to go back to having my name+photo in the content again
# barnabywalters I ditched it because it was repetitive, but now I’m replying and getting comments more it’d be more consistent and useful
# sandeepshetty by ... on ...tagged with ... also posted on VS on ...tagged with ... also posted on ... by ...
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# sandeepshetty just moving it to the top of that stack might be ok
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: I’m going to try to condense all of that plus the web actions into a single line anyway — aiming for everything being typograpical elements instead of “layout”
# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: looking forward to it..
# sandeepshetty neuro`: night (2:46 AM)
# barnabywalters neuro`: 21:16
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# aaronpk neuro`: morning (UGT) http://www.total-knowledge.com/~ilya/mips/ugt.html
# barnabywalters welcome to indiewebcamp
# barnabywalters aaronpk: hah, that’s amazing
# aaronparecki.com edited /p3k (+539) "/* Itching */ comment moderation via pebble watch" (view diff)
# sandeepshetty aaronpk: :)
# barnabywalters aaronpk: ^^^ THAT’S A THING?
# barnabywalters !!!
# barnabywalters needs to make a keymapping for interrobangs
# barnabywalters ¿!
# sandeepshetty "Now, instead of spending time figuring out what time of day is it for every member of the channel, we spend time explaining newcomers benefits of UGT." one link is better than n responses :)
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# sandeepshetty tommorris: can't wait for you to support mentions: http://www.sandeep.io/85
# sandeepshetty not sure if you guys noticed but I'm now handling missing dt-published and h-card: http://www.sandeep.io/39
# sandeepshetty this is better link http://www.sandeep.io/39#likes
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: if the dt-published and -updated are missing I just use the datetime I receive the mention
# sandeepshetty barnabywalters: that's misleading...
# sandeepshetty likes with h-card are the BOMB!
# barnabywalters sandeepshetty: in practise only by a few seconds, so far at least
# barnabywalters if that
# sandeepshetty should start falling back on -updated
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# sandeepshetty outta here. later.
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