#indiewebcamp 2013-10-01

2013-10-01 UTC
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aaronpk|m Weird, it hasn't done the reboot yet
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aaronpk|m I wonder if the host linode died or something
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aaronpk|m Yeah it did. Drive failures. They're fixing it now
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aaronpk|m Er, other way around. Hardware failure and they're moving the drives
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aaronpk|m The host that your Linode resides on experienced hardware failure. As a result, drives are being transplanted to separate, known-working standby hardware which we keep available in case of events such as this.
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tantek wow that's particularly bad! so they don't have automatic nightly backup failovers?
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aaronpk|m Sounds less automatic than I would have hoped
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aaronpk|m This is only the second time this has happened to me with linode in the ~6 years I've been with them. The first time it was a complete hardware failure and they couldn't restore any of the VMs
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@t going to tonight's #IndieWeb Dinner @21stAmendment, 18:00. Hope to see you there! RSVP: http://aaronparecki.com/events/2013/09/30/1/indieweb-dinner-at-21st-amendment (ttk.me t4SJ1) (twitter.com/_/status/384832499656167424)
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aaronpk|m http://www.flickr.com/photos/aaronpk/10029043743/
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@brianloveswords If you're in SF & you're into the #IndieWeb you should head to @21stAmendment and catch dinner with @t & co! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2013/09/30/1/indieweb-dinner-at-21st-amendment (twitter.com/_/status/384833538702712832)
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tantek aaronpk - yikes - perhaps we should link to that on the Hosting page re: Linode
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icco tantek and aaronpk, how often do you guys have indieweb dinners in SF? I'm busy tonight, but would love to catch up with you guys one of these nights
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aaronpk|m Cool! I try to organize one whenever I'm in town. Usually every couple months
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aaronpk|m Tho I'm actually coming back in 2 weeks
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bret linode is awsome, but they seem to have some funky issues...
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bret IE ColdFusion, and now stuff like this :/
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tantek aaronpk: Running late because I took a detour to visit a friend who got out of surgery. On my way. ETA 18:45.
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acegiak so indieauth doesn't like it if I have ?rel=author on the end of my google plus link?
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /Twitter (+179) "/* POSSE Replies to Tweets */ added examples for aaronpk and myself, added tweet URL -> ID regex" (view diff)
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@mikekotsch @thenausner Ja, heute Mittag endlich mal durchgerungen das aufzusetzen. Mal sehen, ob das was taugt. #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/385048090203279360)
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barnabywalters aaronpk: bitbucket publishes personal URL with rel=me, is there a plugin for the ruby auth library you could drop in to add support for them too?
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barnabywalters bnvk: http://indiewebify.waterpigs.co.uk/validate-rel-me/?url=brennannovak.com
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bnvk barnabywalters: wholly molly, that's looking really nice
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bnvk what does the progress bar states represent?
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barnabywalters I basically copied aaronpk
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jschweinsberg barnabywalters: It looks soooo good. :)
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barnabywalters green = symmetric rel=me, orange = doesn’t link back, red = couldn’t be fetched
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bnvk gotcha
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barnabywalters jschweinsberg: thanks :)
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bnvk weird- a lot of my rel=me don't work anymore
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pfefferle barnabywalters awesome!
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barnabywalters bnvk: not sure why your twitter one isn’t working
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pfefferle but it doesn't work with my page :(
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bnvk or my github or my linkedin :(
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barnabywalters I’m resolving redirects so it should work, unless there’s a capitalisation problem
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barnabywalters bnvk: so, next step is to solve these problems for you, then auto-detect them and offer fixes from the tool :)
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bnvk all my stuff is lowerbase
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bnvk riiiiight- that would be super slick to offer to people :)
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barnabywalters ah, was because I didn’t put https:// in front of your URL
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barnabywalters hm, or not
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barnabywalters this may be a problem with my code
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pfefferle i found another problem http://indiewebify.waterpigs.co.uk/validate-h-entry/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnotizblog.org%2F2013%2F08%2F15%2Fopen-app-net%2F
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aaronpk barnabywalters: awesome! looks good so far
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pfefferle it seems that it grabs the last h-entry on the page
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aaronpk barnabywalters: don't forget to follow redirects only until you find a match, but not farther
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barnabywalters aaronpk: wait, what? that’s a thing now?
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barnabywalters aw, now I have to write my own resolving code :(
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bnvk barnabywalters: I don't think it's with your code- well, hell I have no idea, but IndieAuth.com shows me all sorts of wrong responses and duplications
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barnabywalters pfefferle: weird, should grab the first
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aaronpk barnabywalters: yeah, it's ridiculously complicated
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barnabywalters I love the short feedback loop open source development has
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pfefferle it grabs a p-comment h-entry instead of the main article
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aaronpk http://dreev.es is a good test case
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aaronpk because dreev.es itself is a redirect
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aaronpk so twitter links to t.co -> dreev.es -> umich.edu
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cweiske barnabywalters, xss
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bnvk and, IndieAuth actually fails on me trying to auth in- Ruby error on signing in with Twitter- hljap aaronpk ;(
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cweiske I can input <h1> an
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cweiske d get broken html
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barnabywalters cweiske: yeah, fixing now
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barnabywalters thanks :)
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bnvk RelParser::InsecureRedirectError at /auth/start
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bnvk Insecure redirect error. http redirected to https. To fix, link to https://brennannovak.com/ directly.
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bnvk file: relparser.rb location: load_page line: 66
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bnvk specifically
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aaronpk bnvk: I just re-scanned your site can you try again?
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bnvk nope- same error
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bnvk and the only auth method it's showing is Twitter- which is odd as that the opposite of what barnabywalters: tool is showing
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aaronpk odd..you link to https on your twitter profile right?
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bnvk yes
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aaronpk i see twitter and github and sms for you: https://indieauth.com/auth?me=https://brennannovak.com&redirect_uri=https%3A%2F%2Findieauth.com%2Fsuccess#
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aaronpk oh, you didn't enter https, I see
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bnvk <a target="_blank" rel="me nofollow" href="https://t.co/lyJSTeQRuT" title="https://brennannovak.com"> brennannovak.com</a>
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aaronpk if you run your site over https and redirect your http to https, then you need to enter https in the login prompt
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bnvk aaronpk: that is soooo strange
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bnvk I have been entering https in the login prompt at indiewebcamp.com
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cweiske Something Went Wrong!
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cweiske When fetching , we got this problem: (validate-h-entry)
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cweiske is that supposed to be empty?
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aaronpk I think we are going to fix that https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/issues/28?source=cc
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bnvk also, why is it not showing all my other rel=me ?
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aaronpk not sure, probably also because of the https thing
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aaronpk gotta run back later
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pfefferle barnabywalters http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fnotizblog.org%2F2013%2F08%2F15%2Fopen-app-net%2F it displays the first comment instead of the main article
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pfefferle you are using php-mf-cleaner for that right?
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barnabywalters pfefferle: I am, but that should not be happening. having a look now
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barnabywalters cweiske: URL field XSS vuln should be fixed now
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jschweinsberg barnabywalters: http://indiewebify.waterpigs.co.uk/validate-rel-me/?url=http://jschweinsberg.de says that github doesn't link back, but it does. Strange.
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barnabywalters jschweinsberg: thanks, will look into it
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pfefferle barnabywalters let me know if something is wrong with my layout
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barnabywalters pfefferle: fixed, was my bug. I was trying to parse entire HTTP response strings instead of just the body ;)
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barnabywalters got to do some real work now — thanks for the immediate feedback and testing guys!
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pfefferle thanks for fixing it that fast!
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barnabywalters aaronpk: is the full version of the relmeauth redirect handling + resolution algorithm written down somewhere?
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aaronpk barnabywalters: yeah I think it's on the microformats wiki page
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barnabywalters turns out Guzzle has a nice history plugin which records what all the redirect URLs are
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aaronpk http://microformats.org/wiki/RelMeAuth
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aaronpk barnabywalters: it's better to step through them manually to make fewer http requests
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barnabywalters aaronpk: maybe that’ll be version 2 :)
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aaronpk that's what I thought too, but ended up being easier to step through them instead of using a library
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aaronpk also make sure you don't end up in circular redirect loops :)
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barnabywalters do any relmeauth implementations actually do recursive rel-me searching? so people could use a separate page for their rel-me URLs?
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barnabywalters if the recursion was limited to pages on the same domain it could be manageable
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aaronpk i don't think any do yet, but that's supposed to be a thing
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barnabywalters http://microformats.org/wiki/relmeauth#detailed_algorithm doesn’t cover all of the details I’m seeing in https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/blob/master/lib/relparser.rb
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barnabywalters e.g. URL path normalisation
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tantek we should add them
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk we should first make sure indieauth.com is doing it right :)
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Loqi definitely
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barnabywalters aaronpk: does https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/blob/master/lib/relparser.rb#L92 actually do anything? I can’t see it called anywhere in that file
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aaronpk it's used in https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/blob/master/lib/relparser.rb#L178
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barnabywalters I thought that was variable assignment
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aaronpk oops
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barnabywalters can you use = to call functions in ruby?
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aaronpk you're right
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aaronpk ruby is weird, but not that weird
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barnabywalters lol
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aaronpk ok yeah that looks like it's not used anymoore
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aaronpk probably got dropped during one of the refactors
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barnabywalters okay, cool — provided I know I can ignore it ;)
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aaronpk oh wait!
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aaronpk rrgh github is down
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aaronpk auth-web.rb line 97
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barnabywalters other thing: does ruby’s URI library’s equality test do special URL-specific normalisation stuff? like case-insensitive domains?
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tommorris barnabywalters: not sure, but the Ruby URI library is broked in some ways. There's a third-party replacement called Addressable.
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barnabywalters tommorris: thanks — know if there’s an official algorithm for URL comparisons anywhere?
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tommorris barI think WHATWG might have specced one out.
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tommorris barnabywalters: ^^
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tommorris not sure
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tommorris found an interesting use for SMS posting. changed my phone this week and O2 didn't change my data plan over. having SMS for fallback is nifty.
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barnabywalters there’s a comparison section in https://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc3986.txt
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barnabywalters tommorris: nice
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tommorris I am now the only person in Britain with an iPhone 5C.
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barnabywalters SO MUCH COLOUR
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jschweinsberg TOO MUCH APPLE
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jschweinsberg :P
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aaronpk why is it so hard to find good wifi in san francisco?
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