#indiewebcamp 2013-10-02

2013-10-02 UTC
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jernst wyomingplease: I'd like one of those, too.
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acegiak wyomingplease: what features do you need for self-hosted evernote alternative
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acegiak I've had a go and failed at setting up my own snowy server
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acegiak which uses the tomboy system
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Jihaisse hello
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@OnTheWebz RT @t: going to tonight's #IndieWeb Dinner @21stAmendment, 18:00. Hope to see you there! RSVP: http://aaronparecki.com/events/2013/09/30/1/indieweb-dinner-at-21st-amendment (ttk.me t4SJ1) (twitter.com/_/status/385330718139613184)
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wyomingplease acegiak: I'm sorry for a late response, I've been AFK for the morning. Basically, I need Markdown syntax, password protected pages and mobile optimized UI, native app is not necessary, but wouldn't hurt either. :)
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Jihaisse pfefferle: thanks for the report
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pfefferle Jihaisse no problem :)
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@gicela @CodeHubBs @mrstth @hellobobcat @PinnyPinschen @zot24 @guicreative Might be a good to have a look at http://indiewebcamp.com/principles for next meet up (twitter.com/_/status/385402108314263552)
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@temporaryhuman Hence @indiewebcamp RT @davewiner: There's no reason @ev couldn't make his billions without killing off the ecosystem in Twitter. (twitter.com/_/status/385421609000898560)
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aaronpk the official report from the w3c workshop is posted! http://www.w3.org/2013/socialweb/report.html
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tantek aaronpk - indeed! and it looks pretty good. looks like there are some errors in the notes on your and bret's talk
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tantek perhaps you and/or bret should email Harry and point those out
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aaronpk indeed, heh
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tantek he's been really good about updating with corrections
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tantek also probably worth sharing more photos
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aaronpk did I take any? I can't remember
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tantek aaronpk - yours is the latest one here: http://web.stagram.com/tag/osfw3c :)
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aaronpk haha
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tantek I'm going to email Harry and tell him that he may include all my osfw3c photos under a CC-by license attributing with my name and linking to my website.
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tantek Might I suggest you do similarly
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aaronpk sounds good
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tantek here is the exact attribution hypertext I'm requesting:
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tantek photo(s) by <a class="h-card" href="http://tantek.com/">Tantek Çelik</a>
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tantek ;)
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bret tantek, aaronpk: cool! I'll check it out. I'm at Puppet right now doing the ticket triage
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@JeanReinhardt1 ALLi Self-Publishing Advice Event w/Mark Coker: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi?feature=share&v=j3quE1CUvL8 via @youtube STARTING 10pm GMT (twitter.com/_/status/385501156174082048)
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tantek bret - yeah - your talk summary in the report needs a major redo - it currently claims you demonstrated logging in with your watch (which was aaronpk's demo ;) )
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tantek check it out and send HarryH an email with suggested update when you get a chance
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tantek aaronpk, benwerd - email sent to Harry, and you two cc'd (so hopefully you can provide your photos to Harry as well)
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sparverius any beerups coming up?
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aaronpk is always up for beer
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tantek benwerd ^^
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tantek in particular: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2013-10-02/line/1380745645
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benwerd tantek ah, yes! I saw that. Will follow up with a similar request to yours
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benwerd not sure I took too many photos, but I definitely took some
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tommorris should probably organise a London or Brighton based indiedrink
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benwerd how was the indieweb dinner the other night? I was sad to not be able to make it
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aaronpk tommorris: speaking of london, i'll be in london briefly nov 10-14th or so
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tommorris aaronpk: oh cool. ping me closer to it. I can give you a bus tour. :)
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tantek benwerd - I remember a bunch of real time mobile photo posts on werd.io
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benwerd tantek - that's probably true. I'll go back and find them
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aaronpk benwerd: dinner was fun! took some notes here: http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2013-09-30-indieweb-dinner
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benwerd oh yeah, there we go. will send to harry http://werd.io/search/?q=%23osfw3c
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benwerd aaronpk: cool!
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tantek benwerd - the indieweb dinner was well attended! see: http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2013-09-30-indieweb-dinner#Photos
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tantek and when aaronpk gets realtime async comment updates working, things are going to get *real* interesting
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tantek still can't believe FB is the only silo that's implemented that so far.
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aaronpk got about 90% done with my new mentions feed in prep for #1 on that page, so realtime comments are next up!
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tantek woot!
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Loqi woot
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aaronpk I have another plane flight next week so I'll likely make more progress then :) I like to get stuff done on planes
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tantek aaronpk - I have another plane flight next week as well (cross-country even)
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aaronpk nice. mine is short, back to SF next weekend
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@OrnaRoss Mark Coker Event starting shortly. Smart #selfpub Strategies & Merchandising for #Apple: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi (twitter.com/_/status/385506619460964352)
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@IndieAuthorALLI Mark Coker Event starting shortly. Smart #selfpub Strategies & Merchandising for #Apple: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi (twitter.com/_/status/385506619888779264)
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@skfallssc RT @IndieAuthorALLI: Mark Coker Event starting shortly. Smart #selfpub Strategies & Merchandising for #Apple: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi (twitter.com/_/status/385509000378609665)
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tantek aaronpk - I'll be (stuck) in Santa Clara the whole weekend at the Mozilla Summit: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit2013
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tantek feel free to follow along / lurk at the #mozsummit channel on irc.mozilla.org
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tantek agenda in case anyone is curious: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit2013/AgendaAllDays
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tantek I'm co-facilitating a session on Friday 13:00 and again at 14:45 on "The Web We Want" https://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit2013/Sessions/Friday#The_Web_We_Want - you might notice some familiar questions/themes :)
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aaronpk cool!
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tantek bret - you could even copy the description of your demo from what I wrote on this photo I took of your projection demo: http://instagram.com/p/cxnu8OA9Qs/
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@fredachaney RT @IndieAuthorALLI: Mark Coker Event starting shortly. Smart #selfpub Strategies & Merchandising for #Apple: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi (twitter.com/_/status/385514047963025408)
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tantek aaronpk - is the "indieauth" search matching prefixes?
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aaronpk I wonder if that's a change in the twitter search API
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aaronpk that's weird
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aaronpk it's matching it in the youtube URL
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aaronpk oh jeez... look at the actual tweet https://twitter.com/OrnaRoss/status/385506619460964352
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@OrnaRoss Mark Coker Event starting shortly. Smart #selfpub Strategies & Merchandising for #Apple: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi
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aaronpk <span class="js-display-url">youtube.com/user/IndieAuth</span>
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aaronpk it's getting ellipsised again
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aaronpk not sure why my other filter isn't catching that and ignoring it
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tantek odd
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tantek.com edited /2013/osfw3c (+866) "add photos section with my IG photos from osfw3c, plus a few more etherpad notes cleanups" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk, I figure we should add our photos to the indiewebcamp osfw3c page too (or at least first :) ) - go for it http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/osfw3c#Photos
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tantek !tell benwerd add your photos to the indiewebcamp osfw3c page too! http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/osfw3c#Photos
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek even thought it's not open to the general public - is it worth adding/listing the "The Web We Want" sessions on the IndieWebCamp Events page? https://wiki.mozilla.org/Summit2013/Sessions/Friday#The_Web_We_Want
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tantek thoughts? aaronpk, bret, brianloveswords, dietrich, hadleybeeman (and any other Mozillians lurking here)
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aaronpk my instinct is yes, for posterity, but with a disclaimer that it's not a public event
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@jazzervedo This is happening now: ALLi Self-Publishing Advice Event w/Mark Coker: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi?v=j3quE1CUvL8&feature=share via @youtube (twitter.com/_/status/385518819021553664)
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@fredachaney Some great advice for self publishers: http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi?feature=share&v=j3quE1CUvL8 http://www.youtube.com/user/IndieAuthorALLi?feature=share&v=j3quE1CUvL8 (twitter.com/_/status/385518967869423616)
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tantek anybody here based in Brooklyn / NYC?
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bret tantek: yeah I think thats a good idea
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hadleybeeman tantek: with the usual disclaimer that I've been in four countries in the past three days... (I have no tact left)
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hadleybeeman I think it's worth recording a session (and as much as comes out of it), but I think it's important to emphasise inclusivity wherever possible.
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hadleybeeman This is a group of people (many of whom were already friends) that is already building its own vocabulary and short-hand... which is inevitable... but since the mission needs lots of help to realise, I think it's in everyone's interest to appear as open and welcoming as possible.
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tantek hadleybeeman - which "this" do you mean? (Moz? #indiewebcamp?) and which / who's "mission" needs lots of help?
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hadleybeeman That's something I've been meaning to mention anyway. I heard some grumblings in Brighton that people didn't want to join the indiewebcamp activities because "those aren't my people".
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hadleybeeman (Which I thought was unfortunate.)
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hadleybeeman Sorry. I'm just talking about #indiewebcamp here.
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tantek if re: #indiewebcamp - it's amazing how few of us *did* know each other beforehand. obviously the indiewebcamp founders knew each other (myself, aaronpk, caseorganic, skinny), and I knew benwerd and tommorris and you, but nearly all other connections that I know of have emerged as a result of #indiewebcamp, not "already friends")
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tantek most of us got to be friends *because* of #indiewebcamp, not "already"
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hadleybeeman Okay. Fair point.
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tantek we're quite the friendly community :)
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hadleybeeman (I'm not sure how it's appearing to others.)
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tantek (maybe let others just speak up for themselves rather than surmising how it might be appearing?)
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hadleybeeman I'm not sure they will.
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hadleybeeman But I'm not keen to be in the middle of gossip
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tantek (otherwise such commentary starts to border on what WP calls "weasel wording")
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hadleybeeman so feel free to disregard it, if you like.
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hadleybeeman WP?
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tantek in general I've been trying to disregard weasel wording. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word
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tantek WP typically = Wikipedia
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tantek sometimes WP = WordPress, but typically only when contextually obvious, e.g. WP Plugin.
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hadleybeeman Thanks for clearing that up.
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hadleybeeman Well, I wouldn't have mentioned it if I didn't think it might be useful. But now I've done my bit in bringing it up
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hadleybeeman it's of course your community to run as you like.
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tantek.com created /WP (+285) "stub with disambig to wikipedia, wordpress" (view diff)
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tantek NP hadleybeeman :)
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hadleybeeman I don't know if we can participate in sessions remotely? If so, I'll do my best to drop in.
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hadleybeeman We're running ones on policy as well
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hadleybeeman would appreciate your input. I think Harvey is doing Santa Clara's.
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tantek no one "owns" indiewebcamp - or at least as co-founders we've done a lot to try to make that so (e.g. CC0 on everything at indiewebcamp.com)
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hadleybeeman No, but we all know that communities are managed and shaped by some core people.
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tantek hadleybeeman - which summit are you going to? or are you not going in-person to any of them?
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hadleybeeman I'm in Brussels
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hadleybeeman (Both for government stuff and for Summit)
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tantek sweet - the session is being run in Brussels by Larissa Co, Ozten, AlisonW
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hadleybeeman Oh good. I'll do my best to be there then.
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tantek you should totally - we've been coordinating a bit between the different locations for the same session
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Loqi agreed.
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tantek plus Brussels will be the first location to have the session so we can see what comes up there
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hadleybeeman Okay. Thanks for letting me know.
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hadleybeeman And on that note, I need to go to bed. I have to fight the Commission over mandating bad standards tomorrow.
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tantek of course. I also recommend reviewing the etherpad before the session: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/summit-sessions-friday-thewebwewant
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tantek sleep well and keep up the good fight!
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hadleybeeman :) Thanks. Encouragement always appreciated.
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hadleybeeman 'night, all
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tantek :)
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dietrich_ tantek: yeah, like aaronpk said, not public :(
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tantek dietrich - does that mean you agree with aaronpk that " yes, for posterity, but with a disclaimer that it's not a public event" ?
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dietrich_ yeah definitely!
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tantek dietrich - ok cool. plus people can semi-participate remotely via the etherpad
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tantek.com edited /Events (+1991) "Add Mozilla Summit 2013: The Web We Want sessions that very much overlap with Indieweb discussions/principles - and note that they're invite only" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk, dietrich, hadleybeeman - MozSummit The Web We Want session added, along with plenty of public URLs (including Lanyrd session URLs I just created in case you want to track them)
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