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# 15:41 tantek you may be interested in noting the following (see "External Groups")
# 15:41 tantek who would be interested in participating in either or both of these?
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# 15:59 tantek tommorris - suggested edits welcome - I was able to ask for and get "IndieWebCamp Community" included in the list of External Groups (in case you missed that ;) )
# 16:00 tantek so, purely hypothetically speaking, if an opportunity arose to co-chair such a Social Web WG, what do you folks think? would that be something that would be worth my or any of our time to do? do you think we could significantly influence the outcome in an indie-positive way?
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# 16:03 tommorris tantek: the Working Group seem to have decided their technologies first rather than their use cases.
# 16:07 tantek tommorris - the context of OpenSocial's inclusion is not exclusive
# 16:08 tantek note the other quite open ended deliverables of "Federation Protocol … federation of social data such as profiles and status-updates on the Web is still an unsolved problem"
# 16:09 tommorris you know more about the perils of standards bodies than I do. but, yes, if you think you can make a productive contribution, go for it. ;)
# 16:09 tantek and "Social Use-Cases and Requirements" explicitly states "Any new features added to existing specifications should involve **clearly documented use-cases** and requirements, either in a document maintained by the Working Group or another Working or Interest Group." **emphasis** mine. That would apply to OpenSocial as well.
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# 18:36 shaners tantek: i got a weird @reply on twitter today from you/not-you
# 18:37 tantek shaners - that account is duplicating tons of my notes/tweets
# 18:37 tantek just reported it as spam - please do so as well
# 18:37 Loqi Got it! There are now 6 spammers blacklisted
# 18:38 tantek I have nothing against people with beards. I just don't do it myself. :P
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# 21:01 etymancer mathpunk: yo!
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# 21:12 mathpunk etymancer: hey!
# 21:12 mathpunk etymancer: I am attempting to apply to a job despite the posting having been removed, like, immediately
# 21:13 mathpunk etymancer: b/c I like to fantasize about being employable
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# 21:22 etymancer I can understand that
# 21:23 etymancer I imagine that means I can't be of much help, though :)
# 21:27 aaronpk shaners: yea weird I think the database is missing an index or something, been noticing a way higher load on that server too
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# 21:30 mathpunk etymancer: not unless you can get Lynn to stop interrupting me at the exact moment I start to get flow... o_O
# 21:38 etymancer mathpunk: no flow control tips here
# 21:38 mathpunk hey it's aaronpk
# 21:39 mathpunk when you're less sorta I wanna grill you on Periscopic. but, carry on
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# 22:53 tantek Also seeing very slow load times on IRC logs.
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# 22:55 tantek (Not loading for me at all in mobile safari.)
# 22:57 tantek Is this a "databases are slow by default" problem? (Ie without tuning / explicit indexes)
# 22:59 aaronpk no, this is actually the web server this time. got a spike on some site on the server and it crashed
# 23:00 tantek Hmm I wonder if it's that same bot that was hammering my server.
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# 23:28 aaronpk ah, ahrefsbot has been has been crawling aaronparecki.com like crazy
# 23:29 aaronpk something has been crawling the IRC logs like crazy
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# 23:32 aaronpk oh and yeah, missing an index on the DB query used to generate the day pages
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# 23:36 aaronpk also, i'm surprised that any crawler can cause you to go over your monthly bandwidth, my limit is like 4TB/mo and I never come close to it
# 23:36 tantek I followed their instructions to throttle it in robots.txt which had no effect after 48hrs
# 23:37 aaronpk yeah if they don't honor their own instructions, then screw that
# 23:38 tantek They even dared to reply in that twitter thread
# 23:38 tantek No follow up to my complaint that they ignored robots.txt
# 23:39 tantek If you check their site they claim to be the biggest index of back links
# 23:41 tantek First time on a SWA flight with wifi and allowed to keep devices on!
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# 23:46 tantek_ aaronpk - I added a RewriteCond to my existing list of RewriteCond(s) to block bad robots
# 23:46 bret wasnt trying to say that they shouldn't. Its just anoying people dont monitor their crap and cause problems
# 23:47 tantek KevinMarks see above - if they ignore robots.txt they deserve to be blocked
# 23:47 tantek RewriteCond %{HTTP_USER_AGENT} "AhrefsBot" [OR] # 2013-299 disobeyed robots.txt Crawl-Delay: 3600
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# 23:48 tantek I got plenty more IPs that I've blocked if you're curious
# 23:48 tantek RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} "200\.218\.170\.14"
# 23:49 tantek there were also a bunch of bots that pretended to be IE5.5/NT5.0 (which is like no one)
# 23:49 tantek RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} "199\.203\.230\.142" [OR] # 20060508 bot disguised as IE5.5/NT5.0, disobeying robots.txt
# 23:49 tantek and then there are the bots that appear to be attempting hacks, e.g. requesting www.zip or wwwroot.rar or .mdb files
# 23:49 tantek RewriteCond %{REMOTE_ADDR} "125\.89\.79\.83" [OR] # 2010-018 attempted hacks? requested www.zip wwwroot.rar .mdb files
# 23:51 KevinMarks heh. I ran a local server while logged into the salesforce VPN once, and got all kinds of scary fetches from their zone scanner software
# 23:52 tantek ooh that's a good idea to run intranet honeypots