#indiewebcamp 2013-12-19

2013-12-19 UTC
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snarfed.org edited /webmention (+550) "add webmention.io, brid.gy" (view diff)
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tantek dietrich - shall we try to setup the video link at 18:00?
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dietrich tantek: ok
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jchivers tantek: let me know if you need a hand setting anything up, etc. I just realised I work on the same block as the moz office here in SF so I have about 30 seconds distance to you (plus it gets me out a bit earlier too!) :)
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snarfed jchivers, sounds like you're at google sf?
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snarfed which team?
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jchivers snarfed: acquisitions sre (help run/break acquisition production environments)
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snarfed cool. sounds like an interesting (slash painful) team!
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jchivers yeah, it's certainly an interesting gig
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jchivers I get to work with regular (internal) components plus anything else that the acquisition brings over (i.e. non-goog tech) too
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4c4d.com edited /events/2013-12-18-homebrew-website-club (+84) "/* RSVP */" (view diff)
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bret jchivers do you have a bunch of boston dynamic robots running around your office now?
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jchivers bret: heh, I wish - could be great for having them run errands and stuff around the office for me
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tantek jchivers - I'm downstairs at MozSF floor one now - come on by!
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tantek and that's for everyone - you're welcome to come by while we set up
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tantek speaking of
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tantek dietrich?
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dietrich tantek: yo
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dietrich which vidyo room?
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tantek SFO First Floor Commons
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dietrich cool be there in a few
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dietrich we got snafu'd out of pdx commons
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dietrich but there'll likely only be two of us, and there's 22 of them, so that's fine ;)
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tantek oh ok
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tantek but you have another room I presume?
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dietrich yup
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tantek great
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tantek I suspect lighter turnout tonight because of the holidays
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werd.io edited /events/2013-12-18-homebrew-website-club (-82) "Withdrawing with apologies." (view diff)
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benwerd Very sorry to be supporting Tantek's hypothesis
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@t All setup for Homebrew Website Club Meeting simultaneously @MozSF @MozPDX on video! http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2013-12-18-homebrew-website-club Come on by! (ttk.me t4Tc7) (twitter.com/_/status/413496450799378432)
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dietrich can someone take notes down there?
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dietrich tantek: eg, the url the first introduction just said...
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sparverius 4c4d.com
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sparverius jameschivers.com
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sparverius redpuma.net
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sparverius silona.org
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dietrich sparverius++
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Loqi sparverius has 1 karma
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dietrich thnks
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tantek jf is interested in bridging what is his computer vs what his website
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tantek … replacing address books with URLs
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tantek … likes Facebook UI, but doesn't want to put his phone number into FB
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bret jf is thinking about using docker to help with that bridge... way cool
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tantek Lauren is interested in wearable computing
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tantek lots of guy specific stuff in wearable computing, interested in broader gender specific wearable computing
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dietrich zack zurflu
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dietrich harvest search engine for central oregon cc
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dietrich perl!
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dietrich entire resume on wayback machine
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tantek bret - indiewebcamp attendee
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tantek dietrich - has a bunch of stuff across websites
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tantek so far has one HTML file + one JS script for his indieweb presence
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tantek would love to integrate with more standards
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dietrich yeah 4 glass
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sparverius dietrich: msg me an email
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jchivers just turned my site on (http://jameschivers.com) wasn't much there :)
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bret tantek- people first mobile interface mockup
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bret tantek made his site responsive since last time
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tantek ryan - site is snarfed.org
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tantek interested in this community building great things in having personal websites interact with each other
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tantek most of his friends are comfortable on social networks
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tantek mostly interested in having the stuff we build interact with silos
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tantek couple of weeks ago launched brid.gy
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bret bid.gy is great
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bret brid.gy*
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tantek if you have an indiewebsite you can sign up on brid.gy
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tantek if people comment on FB / Twitter, you get notified
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tantek it's open source
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tantek brid.gy uses webmentions
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tantek (KevinMarks just arrived in SF)
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tantek KevinMarks - just spoke at LeWeb
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@mozpdxfridge RT @t: All setup for Homebrew Website Club Meeting simultaneously @MozSF @MozPDX on video! http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2013-12-18-homebrew-website-club Come on by! (ttk.me t4Tc7) (twitter.com/_/status/413501144808161280)
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/videos_about_the_indieweb
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tantek http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ve48PjgDAn0
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tantek slides: http://slides.kevinmarks.com/leweb.html
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tantek 10 years ago lots of things were open standards
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tantek open source
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tantek XFN launched 2003-12-15
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poppy oh shit, i just noticed this, brt
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tantek http://tantek.com/2013/349/b1/xfn-10th-anniversary
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tantek (poppy lol)
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tantek second half of his talk was
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tantek how can we build on this stuff now?
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tantek indieweb is available and is taking off
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tantek and we can build on it
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tantek reaction at LeWeb was very good
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tantek good write ups good feedback
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tantek Silona - how much have people been doing in terms of personal cloud?
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tantek JF - unfortunately having to move his home internet to comcast
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tantek but that means he can setup owncloud on a box at his home!
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tantek with fast upload
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bret can someone repost that ansible playbook name?
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tantek thinking about using ansible
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dietrich alex payne's one-click owncloud
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tantek to set things up
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dietrich <needs citation>
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tantek dietrich, googleable?
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dietrich https://github.com/al3x/sovereign
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tantek q: how do you stuff like mail?
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tantek with owncloud how does it handle mail?
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tantek how to deal with spam?
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tantek JF: getting comcast business class
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tantek let's him do whatever he wants (ports etc.)
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tantek email etc.
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tantek will see how clean the IP address is
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tantek soverign doesn't use owncloud for email - has its own postfix
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tantek there is a service that does spam filtering
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sparverius tantek: i just wanted to send you a quick note
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tantek sparverius :)
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dietrich https://www.digitalocean.com/
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tantek JF: where are people hosting their sites? github? themselves? archive?
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tantek … cheapest VPS I can find
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tantek dietrich - please add to : http://indiewebcamp.com/web_hosting
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dietrich k
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dietrich already there!
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tantek feel free to add commentary :)
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tantek tantek: using Empowering media. 10 for 10
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tantek dmose using own webserver on sonic.net at his house
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tantek wants to move everything to the cloud
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sparverius "cheapest vps i can find" refers to a speical deal i got from We Love Servers http://weloveservers.com/
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tantek cares more about not having to deal with constant updates
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tantek rather than privacy
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tantek github sounds appealing
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tantek something that hosts node is appealing
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sparverius they've (WLS) been okay but they did hard shut down my vps because someone else was getting DDOS'd.
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tantek Ryan - something about security vs. convenience tradeoff?
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tantek site is on Pear
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tantek great uptime
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tantek most projects build run on appengine
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sparverius http://weloveservers.net/ not .com
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tantek Jay is using Appengine as well
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tantek let you have up to 10 app engine apps for free
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tantek Matthew - also using Appengine
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tantek very cheap
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tantek very easy to use
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sparverius i think the lesson im getting here is that i should be using appengine
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tantek silona - on a very old hosting thing
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tantek still on 101
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tantek KevinMarks - using Heroku
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tantek Node stuff on Heroku
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tantek basic thing is pretty cheap
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tantek Node is pretty efficient
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tantek mostly static hosting
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tantek mapping different subdomains to different things is pretty straight forward
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tantek single dyno
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bret zacharyz2010@gmail.com wants a google glass invite!
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bret mic?
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bret Can't hear in pdx
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jernst_ Hi everybody, sorry for not being there in person today.
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tantek back to the mic sorry about that
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tantek had his own VPS's that he had himself
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tantek currently using digitalocean that he's testing himself
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tantek Lauren - I don't know what I'd do with a personal website
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tantek Paul - hosts with Linode
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tantek raspberry pi and find an open office
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bret Where does he work
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bret ?
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sparverius bret: msg me
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tantek dmose - has anyone played with Ghost?
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tantek FYI: http://indiewebcamp.com/Ghost
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@dietrich indiewebnrrrds. http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2013-12-18-homebrew-website-club https://twitter.com/dietrich/status/413501581674708993/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/413501581674708993)
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tantek KevinMarks - downloaded it and tried running it
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tantek was a pain on Heroku
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tantek Bret - one more VPS to add
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tantek run his site on github
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tantek but moved it to FTC Servers
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tantek unmetered connection with 100GB of storage - $19/mo.
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tantek ...
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tantek also look for bittorrent seed boxes
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bret Correction FDC servers http://fdcservers.net/
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poppy that was fun
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acegiak what's standard for multiword hashtags? camelcaps? dashes? underscores? confusion?
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poppy CONFUSION https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V7FTMwduGoI
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cweiske http://evertpot.com/replacing-myopenid/
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@xtof_fr Cool un service #webmention pour sites statiques https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ Thx 2 @voxpelli (xtof.me /w/2013-353 - á essayer avec #jekyll) (twitter.com/_/status/413586918845075456)
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jonnybarnes how was the homebrew meetup?
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Jihaisse Hello
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jonnybarnes hi
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@voxpelli Launched my project from #indiewebcamp UK – a Disqus-like service for receiving WebMentions on Jekyll-like sites: http:///2013/12/webmentions-for-static-pages/ (twitter.com/_/status/413599237213941760)
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@qzio RT @voxpelli: Launched my project from #indiewebcamp UK – a Disqus-like service for receiving WebMentions on Jekyll-like sites: http://t.co… (twitter.com/_/status/413608039556845568)
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jonnybarnes how smart id twitter with markdown links? would "A [link](http://example.org/)" => "A [link](http://t.co/123)"?
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@VSChawathe @t 3 selling by advertising. Marketing is about making selling superfluous like indiewebcamp does. (twitter.com/_/status/413615869923569664)
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@simmelj RT @voxpelli: Launched my project from #indiewebcamp UK – a Disqus-like service for receiving WebMentions on Jekyll-like sites: http://t.co… (twitter.com/_/status/413629468096593920)
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neuro` http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/173108-researchers-crack-the-worlds-toughest-encryption-by-listening-to-the-tiny-sounds-made-by-your-computers-cpu
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jonnybarnes !tell barnabywalters I think you may need to look at where you ellide in your tweets, see https://twitter.com/BarnabyWalters/status/413357974758113280
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jonnybarnes erm, shouldn't Loqi confirm he's going to send that message?
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jonnybarnes is confused
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@enygma Hmm, IndieAuth looks interesting…especially with OpenID being on the shaky ground it is https://indieauth.com (twitter.com/_/status/413659489787580416)
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jonnybarnes hey all
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@nomadphp RT @enygma: Hmm, IndieAuth looks interesting…especially with OpenID being on the shaky ground it is https://indieauth.com (twitter.com/_/status/413660914299064320)
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@wojtha RT @enygma: Hmm, IndieAuth looks interesting…especially with OpenID being on the shaky ground it is https://indieauth.com (twitter.com/_/status/413664388579860480)
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waterpigs.co.uk uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:twitter-com-multiple-reply.png]]""
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waterpigs.co.uk edited /multiple-reply (+261) "/* Multiple Reply in Silos */ documented twitter partial UI support" (view diff)
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jonnybarnes I’m starting to like the look of my notes page. I think it integrates with Twitter quite well.
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jonnybarnes I wonder how barnabywalters puts people's profile pics in his notes.
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jonnybarnes if I’m replying to a tweet then I can get user->profile_image_url and use that
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jonnybarnes anyone know any decent geolocation libraries?
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jonnybarnes reverse-lookup would be nice
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jchivers jonnybarnes: mapping lat/long to place? or vice-versa?
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jonnybarnes mapping lat/long to a place, even if its as generic as the city
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Loqi barnabywalters: jonnybarnes left you a message 5 hours ago: I think you may need to look at where you ellide in your tweets, see https://twitter.com/BarnabyWalters/status/413357974758113280
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barnabywalters good evening #indiewebcamp
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barnabywalters jonnybarnes: indeed, my truncation code is very broken — it’s on my list
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barnabywalters jonnybarnes: RE lat long -> placename, check out http://indiewebcamp.com/Nominatim
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jonnybarnes don't worry, my code has decided all of a sudden it won't post things to twitter :(
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barnabywalters jonnybarnes: oh no! that sounds problematic
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jonnybarnes indeed, though itll have to wait because I need to head home
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@nadam9 RT @voxpelli: Launched my project from #indiewebcamp UK – a Disqus-like service for receiving WebMentions on Jekyll-like sites: http://t.co… (twitter.com/_/status/413727208545718272)
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@websecquickfix Replacing MyOpenID: #openid #indieauth #replacement http:///replacing-myopenid/ (twitter.com/_/status/413749226699780096)
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jonnybarnes !tell barnabywalters all fixed, my site is now posting to Twitter again :)
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@sandeepshetty Liking the My Friends and My TV tabs on Soup.io sites. Also like the focus on simplicity ... http://www.sandeep.io/162 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/413785028477214722)
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@sandeepshetty They don't seem to have a business model yet. If they open-sourced, it would make for good #indieweb software (supports POSSE and PESOS) (twitter.com/_/status/413785527607762944)
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tantek strange that sandeepshetty's original post http://www.sandeep.io/162 links to POSSE and PESOS pages on the wiki but didn't send webmentions!
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tantek (or at least Loqi didn't report them)
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Loqi grins profusely
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tantek pats Loqi on the head.
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Loqi [mention] http://www.sandeep.io/162 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] http://www.sandeep.io/162 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/PESOS (webmention)
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snarfed better late than never!
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sparverius i thought Loqi was a bot
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sparverius 100%
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@sandeepshetty Finally have some clarity about how to move to flat files with converspace ... http://www.sandeep.io/163 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/413792784563200000)
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peat bret: Hey, sorry I missed your note earlier. I missed the content, though. What's up?
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bret peat: I was encouraging you to go to http://calagator.org/events/1250465301 last night :)
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club PDX on Wednesday, Dec 18, 6:30pm at Mozilla
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bret we are going to do another one in 4 weeks though
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peat Worth mentioning: GnuPG is raising money for some new projects. http://goteo.org/project/gnupg-new-website-and-infrastructure
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peat bret: Ahh, bummer! Yeah. We had some holiday stuff with the family. I'll get the next one in the calendar. :)
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Loqi barnabywalters: jonnybarnes left you a message 3 hours, 40 minutes ago: all fixed, my site is now posting to Twitter again :)
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