#indiewebcamp 2014-06-16
2014-06-16 UTC
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gRegor` I've got brid.gy's multiple webmentions (e.g. comment + like) displaying together now: http://gregorlove.com/2014/01/1178/#w9
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gRegor` !tell snarfed Thanks for the u-url updates on brid.gy! I've got multiple webmentions (comment + like) displaying together now: http://gregorlove.com/2014/01/1178/#w9
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KartikPrabhu gregor`: would appreciate some pointers/documentation on how you did it that? Maybe on /comments-presentation?
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gRegor` I'll be writing it up, yeah. The way I've done it may not be the most elegant, but it works for now. :)
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KartikPrabhu cool!
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gRegor` You store your webmentions in flat files, right?
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KartikPrabhu gregor`++ for multiple comment merging
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KartikPrabhu no! unfortunately not yet. I still can't figure out the best file storage
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KartikPrabhu also loqi still doesn't like you nick :P
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KartikPrabhu yes you Loqi!
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gRegor` He did for a while, but then stopped again.
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gRegor` Fickle
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gRegor` Oh, ok. If it's in mysql, then my method might work ok for you. Will write and we can discuss Wed too.
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KartikPrabhu neat!
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KartikPrabhu i should remember to RSVP
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Loqi [mention] http://blog.jasongreen.net/?p=208 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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Loqi snarfed: gRegor` left you a message 2 hours, 27 minutes ago: Thanks for the u-url updates on brid.gy! I've got multiple webmentions (comment + like) displaying together now: http://gregorlove.com/2014/01/1178/#w9
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gregorlove.com edited /User:Gregorlove.com/webmention (+1445) "/* Processing webmentions */ Relating webmentions together" (view diff)
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gRegor` KartikPrabhu: http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Gregorlove.com/webmention#Relating_webmentions_together
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KartikPrabhu thanks :)
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gRegor` The tricky part is that you need to account for multiple u-urls, which I had not been doing.
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gRegor` I was just using the first one.
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gRegor` Bridgy favorites used to only return the twitter profile URL, since it's being scraped rather than by the API.
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gRegor` And Twitter replies were pulling in the URL linked in the profile.
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gRegor` Now bridgy returns both for Twitter replies, so I can associate the favorite and reply together
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gregorlove.com edited /User:Gregorlove.com/webmention (+73) "/* Relating webmentions together */" (view diff)
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@CaptainKurtis Has anyone seen a @gnusocial or #indiewebcamp site on a hidden service? Posting to a microblog via a tor hidden service sounds like fun. (twitter.com/_/status/478423354202796032)
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barnabywalters morning tantek
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barnabywalters pretty sure there’s no way to determine the timezone from the markup on your site — might be an idea to add timezone information in there
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barnabywalters ah he left
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barnabywalters !tell tantek RE timezone info, I can’t find a way to determine the timezone from the markup on your site, so you should add timezone information in there somewhere otherwise consuming apps are going to assume that it’s UTC
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barnabywalters !tell tantek unless of course we want to spec out a timezone-implying algorithm based on geo lookups of data given in your h-card — likely to be complex overkill though :)
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barnabywalters tantek: cool, sounds like a plan
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barnabywalters if you continue to use split date/time parts using value-class it’ll be another good test case — not sure I’ve ever seen separated date/time/timezone dates in the wild
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barnabywalters that should work out
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barnabywalters chloeweil: just testing http://chloeweil.com/notes in my feed tester — you should add authorship information, either with an h-card or rel-author link to your homepage! currently I see this: http://waterpigs.co.uk/img/screen-shot-2014-06-16-at-131536.png
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chloeweil barnabywalters Thanks, will do
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barnabywalters chloeweil: btw, I *love* http://chloeweil.com/blog/i-taste-words — beautiful use of the web as a medium
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chloeweil Mmm, medium :)
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chloeweil Thanks a lot!
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barnabywalters so “medium” is a good-tasting word?
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chloeweil Depends, it’s dry steak
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tantek ideally I'd like to post in the timezone of whereever I happen to be, AND have it captured / stored /published that way
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barnabywalters tantek: what’s blocking you from doing so? can you not just write in the timezone you’re posting from when you author the post?
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barnabywalters tantek: ah yeah that’s a good point, datetimes in permalinks
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barnabywalters it’s probably safest to use a UTC version of the datetime for those, and use the local version elsewhere
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barnabywalters which is what I’m working on in my reader at the moment
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barnabywalters tantek: human verifiability in what case? you as the author making sure the information is correct?
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tantek FYI to anyone who uses the AOL / AIM silo: http://o.aolcdn.com/os/memberservices/faq.html
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petermolnar > tantek: it's always better to store data in the form that is most easily human verifiable
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petermolnar I disagree: to store, store in in the way it's easiest to work with ( thus unix timestamp )
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petermolnar to display, that is a different thing
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petermolnar you have a point
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petermolnar but we have the ISO format for that, which includes all the required data
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petermolnar RFC 2822?
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barnabywalters stores ISO8601 in canonical files, uses timestamp for indexing+querying
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barnabywalters and, in shrewdness, stores the actual date, but computes the UTC version, which is used for indexing+querying
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ben_thatmustbeme just use TAI64, thats nice and humanly readable isn't it? (sarcasm)
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ben_thatmustbeme sorry, just getting caught of up on the discussion
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barnabywalters tantek: “actual” as in the published date, with timezone, given, with some normalisations done
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barnabywalters e.g. resolving floating datetimes, capping future dates to the present
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barnabywalters tantek: this is for a reader — allowing posts to be in the future would allow people to “stick” posts permanently at the top of your timeline by setting the date to 9999-12-30
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ben_thatmustbeme I tend to use local time for posting (human verify) and that is the date that is indexed/how the URL is define, thought the date stored and date shown in timestamp for a post is in UTC (ISO8601). Displaying timestamps for events upcoming would certainly be something that should be in the local time for the event though
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ben_thatmustbeme ISO8601 isn't international friendly?
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petermolnar it is
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petermolnar I'd go with that one as well
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barnabywalters tantek: in what circumstance should legitimate future post markup ever reach a reader?
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ben_thatmustbeme barnabywalters, i think tantek is correct, hiding them would be best. legitimate future posts markup should never reach a reader, and thus if it gets one its probably better to discard (hide)
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barnabywalters timezone bugs are exactly why I was going to cap them to the present
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KartikPrabhu should indieweb readers also do calendar things? like event reminders? then future posts woiuld be of use
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barnabywalters and there’s little point hiding things which can be seen by going to a public URL
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barnabywalters it’s confusing to not show things which are there
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barnabywalters tantek: all the reader knows is that they’re marked up in the feed
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ben_thatmustbeme true, but as you pointed out, sticking them to the top isn't right either, perhaps just use current timestamp if it is in the future
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barnabywalters ben_thatmustbeme: that’s exactly what I mean by capping it to the present
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barnabywalters KartikPrabhu: calendaring and inline RSVPing is on my roadmap
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ben_thatmustbeme but then what do you do with it after that (if someone corrects the error)
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ben_thatmustbeme i don't like ignore, it would be extremely frustrating for a user if their favorite site has a bug that has timestamp format incorrect (switching days and months for example)
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barnabywalters given that this has not yet happened, I am hesitant to make destructive decisions without actual real world examples
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barnabywalters ben_thatmustbeme: exactly, which is my rationale behind “show what is there”
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barnabywalters tantek: events are completely different from posts
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ben_thatmustbeme barnabywalters, what about error message and setting
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ben_thatmustbeme discard vs use current for any future posts
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ben_thatmustbeme give the user control of it and it seems less like an error on your end
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barnabywalters the other option is to have a compact, dummy placeholder sayind “X future posts hidden”
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barnabywalters which, when clicked, shows the posts
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barnabywalters tantek: events == h-event == should be in the future, posts == h-entry == should not be in the future
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barnabywalters tantek: I have no intention of ever capping event datetimes
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barnabywalters or showing them in the same view as posts
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barnabywalters events should certainly be published in the same place as posts, but not consumed in the same view
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barnabywalters tantek: in that case there’s a difference between *published* date and *start* date
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barnabywalters published should never be in the future
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barnabywalters start can be in the future
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barnabywalters posts are organised by published date
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barnabywalters tantek: that totally makes sense, but presumably you’ll also publish the event before it happens
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barnabywalters otherwise it won’t get shown in your feed due to it being a future post
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barnabywalters tantek: so what do people RSVP to? the heads-up which is shown, or the event which isn’t shown due to being a future post?
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barnabywalters looks at actual real world examples of event posts
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ben_thatmustbeme so we are mixing arguments here of displaying events inline with posts vs displaying posts with published date in the future
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barnabywalters rather than tantek’s future-future post brainstorming ;)
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barnabywalters so here’s an example from benwerd: http://werd.io/2014/homebrew-website-club-5
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barnabywalters this is only an h-event, not also a h-entry
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barnabywalters and has a dt-published property from the time benwerd clicked “publish”, but a dt-start property about the actual event
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barnabywalters tantek: I totally want to make Shrewdness be future-post-type-friendly, but also want it to be robustly predictable
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barnabywalters which in the case of posts with a published datetime set in the future, IMO should mean capping that to the present and showing them
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ben_thatmustbeme so forget about what type of post it is, focus on the single aspect of "what do you do if you are consuming an 'item' with a date 'published' in the future". I think it obvious that no matter the type, a date published in the future is an error. Discarding leaves things too confusing for the user, just displaying at top allows for one erroneous site to take over the feed completely, and displaying with a current timestamp might cause
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ben_thatmustbeme things to be out of order from desired result
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barnabywalters ben_thatmustbeme: I am ignoring the “type” of post in order to be future-post-type friendly
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barnabywalters and focusing completely on properties
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barnabywalters e.g. published, start, end, author
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ben_thatmustbeme I think from those options, if you are going to default to (or only have one) way to handle it displaying by current timestamp seems best
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barnabywalters ben_thatmustbeme: yep, all of those cases are undesirable, but IMO showing the data which is there is less confusing and more robust
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barnabywalters it’s the least bad
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ben_thatmustbeme from UI perspective, i would default to that but also have it note that there is an error, and have a setting to select any of those 3
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barnabywalters ben_thatmustbeme: I’m certainly going to expose the information somewhere in the UI, along with the given date (if for example it *is* the datetime of an event), might also allow the user to pick what behaviour is applicable
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barnabywalters really need to see an example of this in the wild though
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ben_thatmustbeme good luck with finding that, i can't see it being too common
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ben_thatmustbeme perhaps if the TZ info isn't published and it gets assumed to be UTC that could happen
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barnabywalters ben_thatmustbeme: indeed, and for that case there is actually a way of resolving the timezone, provided the post arrived in near-real-time rather than polling: http://indiewebcamp.com/datetime#implying_timezone_from_webmentions
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brennannovak.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Indie App Store Index.png]]""
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barnabywalters Jihaisse: yep! https://indietech.org/summit/
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barnabywalters several people from the indiewebcamp community are speaking, along with a bunch of other awesome people
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barnabywalters certainly go if you get the chance
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barnabywalters Jihaisse: indieweb is very web-publishing focused, indie tech is bigger picture/more vauge, depending on how you want to look at it :)
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barnabywalters aral’s written a bunch about it on https://indietech.org/
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petermolnar oh, I didn't know about this, now I need to get a day off somehow
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gRegor` !tell tantek This is minor, but I'm confused by this on this week's HWC page "Note the Minneapolis meeting is at 19:30 CDT (will sync with PDX and SF at 18:30 PDT)" Meaning the second hour will sync up with PDX/SF?
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gregorlove.com created /events/2014-07-02-homebrew-website-club (+3654) "Created page with "<div class="h-event vevent"> = <span class="p-name summary">Homebrew Website Club Meetup</span> = == Details == === When === <span class="dt-start dtstart"><time class="value">20..."" (view diff)
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kartikprabhu.com edited /events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (+42) "/* RSVP */ rsvped" (view diff)
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@blacklightllc “@TheStreet: Social Network @LinkedIn Faces a Privacy Rights Lawsuit http://www.thestreet.com/video/12744390/social-network-linkedin-faces-a-privacy-rights-lawsuit.html [vid] #ownyourdata @katemykleseth” (twitter.com/_/status/478561801487933440)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/212038/675481332531191/212038 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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snarfed.org edited /events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (-38) "/* Where */ fix MN link" (view diff)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/212038/675481332531191/27301982 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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barnabywalters morning aaronpk!
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/212038/675481332531191/1439830846 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] http://jdmcnicholas.com/blog/taking-the-plunge-into-the-indie-web/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/212038/675481332531191/692860207 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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gRegor` The phrasing seems weird. My first thought was "19:30 CDT isn't 18:30 PDT"
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gRegor` Is anyone else coming to the MN meetup?
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gRegor` Nice!
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gRegor` I just tried out a FB RSVP today on the SF HWC, to see it come through on snarfed.org
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tantek aaronpk, caseorganic, dietrich - you guys doing PDX HWC this week? http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club
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tantek aaronpk, might want to add some URLs: http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club#URLs :)
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snarfed code in general! https://snarfed.org/2014-04-17_9081
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aaronparecki.com edited /events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (+126) "add URLs for Portland and RSVP myself" (view diff)
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tantek snarfed - odd - I faved the POSSE copy of that no code post and it didn't seem to backfeed to the post itself: https://snarfed.org/2014-04-17_9081
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@schnarfed The best code I ever write is the code I avoid writing at all. (https://snarfed.org/2014-04-17_9081) (twitter.com/_/status/456913166338129921)
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tantek snarfed - what is this?!? https://snarfed.org/2012-11-30_facebook_to_wordpress#comment-2452550
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/11500459/630622403699962/11500459 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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gRegor` Likewise!
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tantek.com edited /events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (+12) "clarify Minneapolis sync time with Pacific" (view diff)
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gRegor` Hah, that was odd (indie-visitor through lolapalooza nick changes)
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bigbluehat KevinMarks: reading your fragment posts. good stuff! :)
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KevinMarks Thank you, I hope you find it useful
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bigbluehat KevinMarks: we're working heavily with selection stuff at hypothes.is
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bigbluehat here's a few in progress attempts http://github.com/hypothesis?query=dom
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bigbluehat also, check out shepazu's http://schepers.cc/svg/svgeodata/svgeodata.html
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bigbluehat for image highlighting via fragments
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bigbluehat would love to get some collaboration goodness going among All The Things
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@fjhirsch Our content "is not secure in hands of random ephemeral startups or big silos. We should be holders of our own data." http://indiewebcamp.com/why (twitter.com/_/status/478626669381836800)
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KartikPrabhu THIRD! I must have seen at least 5 instances
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KartikPrabhu following up on relevant comments is a good indicator of how interested someone actually is
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gRegor` Hahaha
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gRegor` @shanley is trying to export her content from medium.com and running into problems. Sounds like it might be technical problems, but still another good argument for POSSE.
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aaronpk they acknowledged me once: https://twitter.com/thedatahive/status/465255212316639232
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@thedatahive Were paying attention & hope to help RT @aaronpk: @thedatahive We're working on it ;-) http://indiewebcamp.com/generations (http://t.co/SQ6yPny5t6) (twitter.com/_/status/465255212316639232)
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aaronpk whoa when did shanley's twitter account switch to private? https://twitter.com/shanley
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bigbluehat bret: would love that! :)
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bigbluehat feel free to join #hypothes.is
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bigbluehat some familiar names in there, likely
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gRegor` aaronpk: She's been getting a lot of harassment from reporters
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gRegor` And, well, just a lot of people in general
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KartikPrabhu hmmm where I have i heard of @shanely before....?
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bigbluehat tantek: http://hypothes.is/
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bigbluehat or mine personally?
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bigbluehat bigbluehat.com
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bigbluehat :)
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bigbluehat shock, right?
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gRegor` Hehe, yep, tantek. She will definitely be vocal about it.
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bigbluehat it's nearly 15 years old by now
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bigbluehat supports IndieAuth ;)
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tantek bigbluehat: awesome! then might as well add yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people
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bigbluehat :)
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bigbluehat happy to
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bigbluehat tantek: when you're bored, check out userinfo.me
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bigbluehat been meaning to pitch it to all the various "camps" :)
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bigbluehat just haven't made time yet
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bigbluehat :)
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bigbluehat need to finish the python version
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bigbluehat and the Firefox add-on to "catch" those urls
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bigbluehat which bit? :)
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tantek I think this: http://user@example.com/ will just confuse users into thinking it's either a broken URL or a broken email
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bigbluehat aaronpk: me@
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KartikPrabhu I did the me@kartikprabhu.com it is clunky for sure
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bigbluehat does it?
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bigbluehat tantek: it's the URL for people I already know
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KartikPrabhu maybe @username.com could directly be an email address? it might need some non-trivial hoop jumping
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bigbluehat tantek: there shouldn't be dissonance
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bigbluehat we made it...accidently maybe
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bigbluehat by not building this sooner ^_^
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bigbluehat meh.
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bigbluehat it's completely doable now
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bigbluehat indeed
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bigbluehat we'll see :)
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bigbluehat that's better. ;)
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bigbluehat tnx
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tantek snarfed, aside, I was getting inconsistent results on that tweet https://twitter.com/schnarfed/status/456913166338129921 as well - it showed up as favorited for me, but then didn't list me among the favoriters.
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@schnarfed The best code I ever write is the code I avoid writing at all. (https://snarfed.org/2014-04-17_9081) (twitter.com/_/status/456913166338129921)
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bigbluehat tantek: for me it solves a decade plus bad habbit of putting emails into browser location bars...and being disappointed
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KartikPrabhu the other being P=NP? :P
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bigbluehat plus, it obviates gravatar, etc.
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bigbluehat but, whatev's :)
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bigbluehat goes back to building
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kylewm snarfed, hey I got a twitter comment on an originally-instagrammed photo, so the refetch thing at least sort of worked https://kylewm.com/note/2014/06/15/2#likes
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KartikPrabhu wasn't expecting the log in behaviour... remenants of ftp UI?
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bigbluehat tantek: works now with curl :)
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bigbluehat when is it?
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bigbluehat tnx!
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bret also bigbluehat, feel free to add yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people
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bret bigbluehat oh noes: https://okfn.org/annotator/ 404d
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bret off of http://hypothes.is/what-is-it/
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2014-06-06#t1402067634 i think
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KartikPrabhu :D
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KartikPrabhu now uses FFs tab groups
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snarfed nah, it's automated with https://snarfed.org/indieweb-press-this-bookmarklets-for-wordpress
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snarfed which pfefferle has packaged into a wp plugin, https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-indieweb-press-this
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gRegor` Hahaha, snarfed
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gRegor` aims for divide by zero
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tantek.com edited /repost (+714) "subheads for indieweb examples, add snarfed, more citations, dates" (view diff)
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tantek kylewm I'm confused by what is this supposed to be: https://kylewm.com/share/2014/04/14/1
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@nstop @shanley It takes extra effort, for sure, but I find most of the indieweb principles jibe w/mine: http://indiewebcamp.com/principles (twitter.com/_/status/478647784950599681)
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@nstop @shanley I evaluate the time/energy I put into using tools made by others based on both ownership & portability of my content. (twitter.com/_/status/478647619124596736)
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tantek also this post: https://kylewm.com/share/2014/04/14/1 *embeds* a *list* (apparently datetime ordered) of other posts, and adds a line of new content as well: "I was reading some of ..."
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tantek is this a PESOS from Twitter? https://kylewm.com/note/2009/06/04/2
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tantek and no one has yet created a /collection page
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: yeah iirc that was the conclusion when I asked the same
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gRegor` Yeah, that's an option on tumblr's "reblog" - you can add text to it.
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tantek.com created /Press_This (+76) "stub with URL to snarfed's post on IndieWeb Press This" (view diff)
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KevinMarks_ hm, shanley is complaining about HTML export
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gRegor` Yeah, I didn't really get that.
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KevinMarks_ looks like to PESOS from medium you'd need to download the images too, and remove ther "go to original" link from the bottom
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KevinMarks_ I have foursquare piped into google calendar. do we have a term for that? PESET?
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Loqi PESETAS is an acronym/abbreviation for Publish Elsewhere, Syndicate Everything To A Silo http://indiewebcamp.com/PESETAS
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KevinMarks_ aha
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/rsvp/facebook/212038/675481332531191/660908551 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-06-18-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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KevinMarks_ well, MVC is pretty indieweb
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KevinMarks_ 42% of execs say they are data-driven
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KevinMarks_ only 10% follow data when it contradicts gut feeling: http://www.economistinsights.com/sites/default/files/Decisive%20Action%20-%20How%20businesses%20make%20decisions.pdf
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gregorlove.com edited /comments-presentation (+416) "/* Current Indiewebcamp Practices */ adding my implementation" (view diff)
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gRegor` GWG: I implemented that display concept I showed you a while back. http://gregorlove.com/2014/01/1178/#w9
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gRegor` Documented the basic process here: http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Gregorlove.com/webmention#Relating_webmentions_together
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gRegor` Sure
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gRegor` So the "Replied"under "This is a Test of a Response to a Link with Citation"?
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gRegor` At first glance, I thought the text beside the "Replied" was your response to something, not the source you were replying to.
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gRegor` "Reposted" and "Liked" seem to work ok in that context, because they don't imply more content from you.
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gRegor` I've not thought through these type of UI decisions at length, yet.
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gRegor` I think something like "in reply to" is more clear. Like kyle's: https://kylewm.com/reply/2014/06/01/1
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gRegor` I don't think so, no. Generally I think it's good to put the content you're responding to first.
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gRegor` Yeah, I'm basically saying the "Replied" text seems ambiguous.
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gRegor` Otherwise I think it's good
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gRegor` Oh, just noticed the star beside "Reposted" That usually indicates a favorite. </nitpick> :)
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gRegor` Usually the two arrows pointing in a "circle", a la Twitter RT button
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gRegor` looks
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gRegor` I guess the refresh icon.
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gRegor` Or the stumbleupon phallus. Lulz.
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gRegor` Yeah, repost / quote are not exactly the same. Per some discussion earlier in IRC and the wiki
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KevinMarks_ that's a bit weird for that
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gRegor` Haha, nah
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gRegor` Are you using Genericons because it comes with WP?
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KevinMarks_ you could do the SVG thing
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gRegor` I think "refresh" is the best of that font. It's closest to the commonly used repost icon on twitter and tumblr
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KevinMarks_ some varaints there: http://thenounproject.com/term/reblog/
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KevinMarks_ interesting, reblog is square, repeat is oval: http://thenounproject.com/term/repeat/
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shepazu wouldn't "share" be a better icon?
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shepazu https://www.google.com/search?q=share+icon&safe=off&espv=2&tbm=isch&imgil=yHYHbdi-yGvezM%253A%253Bhttps%253A%252F%252Fencrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com%252Fimages%253Fq%253Dtbn%253AANd9GcQhK-K7_zyEc05cbz0wk4Kjab278GIW2TPd4gZMRLQhUCV001Qo%253B256%253B256%253BVeoZFMFzy2FH7M%253Bhttp%25253A%25252F%25252Ftembohu.deviantart.com%25252Fart%25252FShare-Icon-in-Windows-8-282988389&source=iu&usg=__2BPj2FdetPrCPQAVSFkR6L0LWYc%3D&sa=X&ei=
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shepazu U97FMdGAqgbKlYKICw&ved=0CDUQ9QEwCw&biw=1148&bih=626#facrc=_&imgdii=_&imgrc=yHYHbdi-yGvezM%253A%3BVeoZFMFzy2FH7M%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ffc02.deviantart.net%252Ffs71%252Ff%252F2012%252F034%252Fb%252F4%252Fshare_icon_in_windows_8_by_tembohu-d4ohf8l.png%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Ftembohu.deviantart.com%252Fart%252FShare-Icon-in-Windows-8-282988389%3B256%3B256
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shepazu ah
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shepazu heh
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KartikPrabhu SVG is the new way man!
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KartikPrabhu GWG: full directions on how I do it: https://kartikprabhu.com/article/inline-svg-icons
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KevinMarks_ the other fiddly bit is getting the PD svg out of nounproject
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KevinMarks_ as they try to charge you for it
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jonnybarnes does anyone here happen to use IPv6?
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jonnybarnes and you havent got a router that does support ipv6 because? :P
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jonnybarnes cos myhouse connection doesn't, and my little pet project tonight was getting my site accessible over IPv6 considering v6 addresses are free
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jonnybarnes I think I;ve got it set up but obviously I can't test it
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snarfed jonnybarnes: https://www.google.com/search?q=ipv6+test+server
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KevinMarks_ http://test-ipv6.com/ says I haven't
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jonnybarnes ready.chair6.net implies my site is accessible over IPv6
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jonnybarnes thoughy my VPS seemed to randomly drop v6 conectivity just before
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