#indiewebcamp 2014-06-27

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rascul aaronpk you highlighted me earlier about rsvp stuff but i think you meant that for someone else
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rascul gRegor` maybe?
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aaronpk hm i don't remember
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rascul i think it was him working on the rsvp stuff
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tantek KartikPrabhu: I would be up for midnight drinks at the Elemental hotel bar lounge
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tantek (arrives at JFK ~23:00 EDT Friday)
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KartikPrabhu tantek: I could do that. I think CLub Quarters is only a few blocks from Elemental
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rascul i was just looking at firefox os here http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/os/ and i noticed it can import facebook contacts like android can, what would be interesting is if one could grab h-card from someone's personal domain to import into contacts
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KartikPrabhu tantek: lets make that the official pre-party? :P
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rascul not referring specifically to firefox os contacts, the ability to do that for any contacts type thing would be nice
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GWG KartikPrabhu: When is your flight?
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tantek KartikPrabhu: sure! but leave it open to an earlier meetup if anyone wants to propose one!
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KartikPrabhu I am arriving LGA at 4:30
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KartikPrabhu oops... LGA 16:30 EDT
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tantek rascul - why import into contacts when you can instead treat someone's personal domain *as* their contact? http://tantek.com/2013/338/b1/people-focused-mobile-communication-experience
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KartikPrabhu 12 hour times where are my manners?!
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tantek (importing into contacts is a static one-time operation that gives you a copy of information that goes out of date)
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tantek (instead, bookmark the personal domain to your home screen or screen for people)
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rascul sure, that sounds better
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tantek and hey - it works today - no code required :)
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rascul i just mean, if i open up contacts on my phone, it would show the stuff from their site
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tantek why "open up contacts" and why not just swipe to your screen of contacts?
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aaronpk rascul: that could actually be implemented relatively easily! just need h-card to carddav proxy
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rascul sure that too
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rascul my wording probably isn't the best :)
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tantek skip the crappy 1980s era contacts UI
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tantek seriously - let's get over it. "contacts" as an app are a pre-web anachronism
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tantek someone could do some screenshot research to show how "contacts" or "address book" UIs are basically unchanged since the 1980s.
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rascul but i like to have a list of contacts in my phone!
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tantek rascul - that's what the "screen of personal sites" is for
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KartikPrabhu you mean list of hcards ;)
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tantek that *is* a list of contacts
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rascul a screen of personal sites?
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rascul i like this http://indiewebcamp.com/File:ios-people-icons-screenshot.jpg
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tantek rascul - e.g. http://tantek.com/2013/338/b1/people-focused-mobile-communication-experience#what-if-people
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tantek read the post :)
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KartikPrabhu tantek: there might be some scalability issue with "a screen of contacts" UI. My "phonebook" has about 100 contacts
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rascul quit talking to me so i can read it! :)
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aaronpk i have like 6 people in my "favorites" list in contacts, but well over 100 people in the full list
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tantek KartikPrabhu: nah, that's what folders on your home screen are for
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tantek keep the 6-(10?) favorite contacts on a "contacts" screen on your home screen
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tantek and then keep the rest in an "other contacts" folder
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tantek done
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aaronpk although in reality I end up opening my messages app and going to recent message threads to talk to people
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: yeah same here
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tantek ^^^ so that's a more interesting use-case to document
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tantek emergent passive favorites
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KartikPrabhu tantek: then also have a search-by-name functionality to it?
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tantek rather than explicitly curated favorites
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tantek KartikPrabhu: yes your home screen has a search by name functionality already
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tantek for everything on the home screen
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KartikPrabhu it does?!
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tantek including the icons/favorites/bookmarks of people on your homescreen
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aaronpk (also has launch by voice thanks to siri!)
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tantek on ios swipe down on icon view
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tantek search box revealed
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seanbmcgregor.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+357) "/* West */ Added Sean McGregor" (view diff)
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aaronpk try holding down the home button and saying someone's name, should open their site!
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tantek ios7
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tantek aaronpk WHOA!
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KartikPrabhu hmmm picks up his Android and tries
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rascul tantek i'm trying to think of how i can apply indieweb stuff to how i use my phone is where this is coming from
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GWG KartikPrabhu: I live near the airport.
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KartikPrabhu GWG: oh! maybe we can meet up earlier. I predict I'll be hungry by the time I land :)
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tantek aaronpk - doesn't work
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tantek keeps trying to play songs by people
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tantek or start facetime with people
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aaronpk oh weird
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aaronpk it's trying to be smarter than you
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tantek i tried "open ..."
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tantek and "bookmark ..."
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aaronpk I have an app called "turn off the lights" which all it does when it opens is makes an http call to my server then runs exit(0)
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aaronpk so I can literally just say "turn off the lights" to my phone and it works :)
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rascul i talk to my phone but it's not smart enough to turn lights off
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tantek where are siri preferences?
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crystalbeasley.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+274) "/* West */" (view diff)
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tantek about time ^^^ ;)
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aaronpk yyaaayyyy
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crystalbeasley.com edited /2014/Guest_List (+2) "/* Official Guest List */" (view diff)
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tantek siri prefs are in General
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tantek aaronpk - still doesn't work. it tries to hard to match on someone in Contacts
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aaronpk wow I didn't realize it did that
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tantek aaronpk - still total fail
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tantek I tried just "Barnaby"
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tantek and I have a bookmark for Barnaby save to my homescreen
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tantek and instead siri recognizes "Barnaby" and then does a web search!!!
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tantek for "Barnaby"
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tantek siri--
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Loqi siri has -1 karma
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tantek so I'm not buying this it just launches an app thing any more
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tantek since it's falling through to web search
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aaronpk weird, I use it for apps all the time
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aaronpk maybe it doesn't work with home screen bookmarks
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tantek aaronpk - then see if you can make it work with a bookmark of my homesite to your homescreen by saying "Tantek"
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GWG KartikPrabhu: What do you eat?
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tantek I bet it will bring up Contact info instead
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KartikPrabhu GWG: everything! :P
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GWG Any preference?
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GWG I'm an overweight person. I know food places
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KartikPrabhu GWG: then lets go to the one you like.
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KartikPrabhu on android the Google Now thingie only finds the Chrome bookmark not the FF one!
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KartikPrabhu oh there is a setting for that!
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kylewm "turn off the lights" no no no i changed that. "deluminate"
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KartikPrabhu sounds like a spell from HP
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GWG KartikPrabhu: I know a good deli
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KartikPrabhu GWG: sweet works for me!
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KartikPrabhu GWG: where/when should we meet up
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GWG I live about 20 minutes from LGA. I suppose I could drive up and hold out a Kartik Prabhu sign
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GWG That seems weird though
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KartikPrabhu GWG: haha yeah :P
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KartikPrabhu looks for any photos of himself
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GWG This is why I bought my father a chaffeur's cap
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Do you live up to the hype of an Indiewebbing Physicist?
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KartikPrabhu GWG: as in looks?
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GWG I always feel I'm disappointing in person
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GWG But I'm paranoid
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KartikPrabhu GWG: who cares!?
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KartikPrabhu anyone use a IRC app for Android?
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KartikPrabhu any recommended ones?
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willnorris KartikPrabhu: I’ve had moderate success with http://www.androirc.com/
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KartikPrabhu cool thanks
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GWG KartikPrabhu: I do. I forget the name. I have to check
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KartikPrabhu tantek: FYI did you see the side-panel UI for marginalia yet?
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KartikPrabhu https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia##The+visual+display
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kylewm hey KartikPrabhu
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kylewm the marginalia thing looks really cool
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GWG Hi, kylewm
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: thanks :)
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KartikPrabhu will tweak the design more at IWC/on the plane
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kylewm I had one thought, I don't know if you want suggestions :)
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kylewm I'm sure you've seen sites like this http://stevelosh.com/blog/2013/09/teach-dont-tell/
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KartikPrabhu i always want suggestions :)
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kylewm where the sidebar changes as you scroll
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kylewm it would be cool if the comment updated depending on which paragraphs were visible
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kylewm hi GWG
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: the trouble is what if 2 diff. visible paragraphs have comments?
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kylewm show all of them maybe
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KartikPrabhu but i will of course keep that in mind
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kylewm I want someone else to comment on a paragraph that already has a comment :)
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kylewm to see how scrolling works
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KartikPrabhu see the last one then :P
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KartikPrabhu I added update marginalia to it :P
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kylewm oh!
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kylewm that's excellent
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KartikPrabhu I want ot also make a page which shows all my marginalia for a particular post... something to show what marginalia-posters can do
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kylewm I broke my CSS
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kylewm :(
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KartikPrabhu your sites?
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kylewm yeah like i tried to move the user avatars around, e.g., https://kylewm.com/reply/2014/06/23/1
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kylewm i like how it looks on desktop but it doesn't size down well anymore
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KartikPrabhu media-queries are your friends
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kylewm oh good point. i was trying to think of a layout that works at all sizes
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kylewm but that's going to be limiting
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kylewm thanks!
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kylewm i'm really envious of stevelosh's site, btw. that is what mine would look like if i had any taste :P
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GWG kylewm: Pretty plain in my opinion
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KartikPrabhu GWG: sometimes plain is good
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kylewm mine is plain too but somehow cluttered
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KartikPrabhu for instance: my fav site is http://markboulton.co.uk/ which is just amazingly designed
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KartikPrabhu mine is pretty plain too i think
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: design is hard. keep iterating
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KartikPrabhu is that on a t-shirt yet?
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kylewm oh interesting, not dissimilar
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kylewm also just a little choked up at the first post
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kylewm one of my high priority Red Wind TODOs is to pull out the "theme" stuff so I can swap them out
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kylewm have to remove a bunch of logic from the templates too
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kylewm before I'm quite done being jealous of other's design talents: I also really like bnvk, chloeweil, and glennjones note permalink pages
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GWG kylewm: This would be a great Indiewebcamp discussion
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kylewm GWG: I would love someone to lead a design or typography 101 session
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kylewm is that what you mean?
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GWG Yes. Design elements of an indieweb site
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kylewm nice, i'll add it to the list
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kylewm "design" is probaby a little broad?
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KartikPrabhu me recommends Frank Chimero's Shape of Desgin: http://read.shapeofdesignbook.com/introduction.html currently reading myself
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GWG kylewm: We could go low brow....
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GWG Stuff we Like
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: downloading to my keendle, thanks!
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KartikPrabhu :)
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KartikPrabhu learnt some bits of design purely by looking/comparing with others
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KartikPrabhu my lack of sidebar for example is inspired by markboulton and trent walton
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Ditto
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GWG My lack of stuff in my sidebar is punctuated by a lack of ideas of what to put in it
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KartikPrabhu same with content-first nav-second
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kylewm my fear is that Design 101 would be like http://i.imgur.com/RadSf.jpg
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kylewm (i.e. maybe not something could explain in an hour)
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KartikPrabhu yeah. I don't like this bottom-up learning style
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GWG I was thinking of a discussion, not so much a master's class
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@benwerd A little #indieweb audio while I wait for my flight. http://werd.io/2014/a-little-indieweb-audio-while-i-wait-for-my-flight (twitter.com/_/status/482367280148262912)
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kylewm is "Visual Design" more specific?
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kylewm conversation sounds good
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GWG Okay
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GWG If you want me to discuss something, I'm good at rambling.
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kylewm hehe
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@holden hey @jimgroom, it looks like I'm going to @indiewebcamp on Sat -- sport me an intro to someone and I'll talk up the Reclaim Hackathon. (twitter.com/_/status/482370247614152704)
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kylewm GWG: KartikPrabhu: can you see if that's ok? (i didn't actually call it design for engineers, i stole GWG's title suggestion)
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: sounds good to me :)
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KartikPrabhu I should add some stuff to that. Maybe in tomorrow/in hotel room
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Loqi agreed.
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GWG KartikPrabhu: I'll have you in the hotel before dark
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kylewm wowza
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GWG kylewm: I invited KartikPrabhu to lunch
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KartikPrabhu GWG: dope! but "I ain't afraid of no ghosts!"
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KartikPrabhu ;)
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GWG kylewm: Sunset is 8:30PM. That would be a pretty long lunch
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kylewm :)
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KartikPrabhu haha! summertyme
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KartikPrabhu and I probably have a midnight-meet with tantek
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KartikPrabhu is super-excited for IWC
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kylewm is NYC starting later on saturday?
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KartikPrabhu later relative to?
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kylewm i guess i basically have the schedule open here
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kylewm looks like no
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KartikPrabhu I think some aaronpk and tantek are trying to sync some sessions at least
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kylewm i did a dumb thing and bought plane tickets that get to PDX at 830am on saturday
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kylewm looks like we shifted lunch early and you shifted late
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kylewm although... that doesn't really make a difference if we are still eating lunch at two different hours does it?
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GWG Not really.
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@benwerd @supernowoczesna A lot of tech communities use IRC. I mostly use it to chat with #indieweb folks. (twitter.com/_/status/482387867935576065)
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benwerd Oh, hey, I made it on.
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GWG Hello, benwerd
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benwerd Howdy
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GWG What's up?
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benwerd Me, mostly - en-route to Portland. Somewhere above some mountains right now.
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basal ello
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GWG Fun. I'm not
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benwerd There ought to be another European IndieWebCamp soon. I think it'd be great to do one in eastern europe
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GWG Indieweb Split?
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benwerd Wait. You're in NY.
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GWG benwerd: I was referring to the fact I'm not somewhere above some mountains.
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benwerd Gotcha
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benwerd I'm hoping not to be soon. But not too soon.
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@benwerd I'm en route to IndieWebCamp. It's not too late to join these amazing people in PDX, NY or Berlin: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/482390723300323328)
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/im-en-route-to-indiewebcamp-its-not-too-late-to linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (webmention)
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GWG I'm wondering what this will be like. Indiewebcamp NYC...the first one...was not quite the scale of this
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@temporaryhuman RT @benwerd: I'm en route to IndieWebCamp. It's not too late to join these amazing people in PDX, NY or Berlin: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/482392033563541504)
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benwerd GWG: It should be awesome. I'm a little envious - wanted to make it out to NY but couldn't make it work.
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GWG benwerd: Our loss
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benwerd Hopefully we'll all be connected using the power of the Internet
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KartikPrabhu benwerd: would have loved to see you in NYC. but through the interwebs it s!
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benwerd Next time!
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GWG benwerd: I respect you for what you are doing, by the way.
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benwerd Will be in NY in mid-september. I'd love to come to a homebrew
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GWG benwerd: I've never been to one actually.
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benwerd GWG: Thank you! Finding my way into the indie web community has been one of the very high points of the last few years.
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KartikPrabhu i'd second that!
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Loqi [@erinjo] RT @scottros: On my way tomorrow to Portland for IndieWebCamp
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Loqi here's why, in form of a quick intro to this topic http://www.wordyard.com/2014/06/26/indieweb-intro/ (http://twtr.io/ns2hgsaux4)
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Loqi [@benwerd] RT @scottros: On my way tomorrow to Portland for IndieWebCamp
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Loqi here's why, in form of a quick intro to this topic http://www.wordyard.com/2014/06/26/indieweb-intro/ (http://twtr.io/ns2k13erfp)
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GWG I'll third it
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GWG I'm looking at Known again
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GWG One side effect of getting into web design more lately...
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GWG I see Bootstrap everywhere
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benwerd Yeah, I've been thinking about how to de-Bootstrapify it
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benwerd It's got a theme engine, so it doesn't have to always be Bootstrap
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benwerd It'd be fun to play with a lightweight theme
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benwerd And/or polymer
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GWG benwerd: I've been using Bootstrap for my work lately because I'm not at the point where I want to get rid of it
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benwerd Mind you, this also exists http://werd.io/content/all/?_t=hanshotfirst
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@paddyforan Disturbing question: let's get a role call of the #indieweb movement. From what I can see, we seem to be a bunch of white dudes. (twitter.com/_/status/482395022612901888)
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kylewm ha yes when I realized what Bootstrap was, I saw it everywhere ... very much like after I watched the movie Helvetica
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kylewm bret++ for way better organization of the projects page
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Loqi bret has 16 karma
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GWG kylewm: There are some elements that appear on all my projects right now
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GWG Bootstrap, Genericons, and a photo of you.
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GWG With the last one...I don't need any more test mentions...
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kylewm hahaha
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kylewm so #indieweb on twitter, is that pretty much == indiewebcamp?
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kylewm or do people use it more generically
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GWG What does one put in a footer?
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@kartik_prabhu @paddyforan me raises hand for non-white dude criteria! #indieweb (https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/non-white-dude) (twitter.com/_/status/482398164750581760)
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kylewm license, colophon, that sort of thing
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KartikPrabhu GWG: also additional links such as feeds
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Single column or multicolumn footer?
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KartikPrabhu feels obliged to answer such diversity roll-calls
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KartikPrabhu GWG: depends on the amount of content. Mine is single column
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benwerd This isn't a fun landing, really
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benwerd Bye folks ..
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kylewm GWG: for contrast, bnvk has a nice looking 3-column footer https://brennannovak.com/notes/479
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Remember, I'm coding for multiple use cases.
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KartikPrabhu hmm... yeah don't really know how such general templating should be done
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GWG I want to be able to, once I build the pieces, use the Wordpress controls to change it up
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GWG So, Wordpress uses Widgets.
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KartikPrabhu yeah. maybe a footer-widget whihc defaults to 1-column but then you can add some sort of column-widget inside it? I really don't know how such widgeting works!
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GWG KartikPrabhu: I've seen what you identify.
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KartikPrabhu should find a way to paginate notes now that is growing to be a long list...
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@kyle_wm Im concerned too and wondering how to improve. Worth noting that 2/4 #indiewebcamp founders happen to be women…https://kylewm.com/reply/2014/06/27/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482401904291377152)
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kylewm l.o.l. my twitter card did something unexpected with that tweet!
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: WTF!
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KartikPrabhu and why is it not a reply?
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kylewm ah crap, thank you for noticing that
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kylewm 140-characters is so not even close enough to discuss stuff like that
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KartikPrabhu yup! hence links to own posts no?
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GWG I've challenged petermolnar to solve that problem for me.
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@veganstraightedge PDX, I'm coming to you Friday—Monday for #indiewebcamp. Let's get weird. @ Los Angeles International… http://instagram.com/p/pvJ0lQsnka/ (twitter.com/_/status/482404036830703616)
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: neat UI with tantek's face in your note permalink page. Also, you might want to include your own avatar next to the note. Right now it appears as if the whole note is by @paddyforan
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@kyle_wm @paddyforan concerned abt this too & wondering how to do better. fwiw 2/4 #indiewebcamp founders happen to be women…https://kylewm.com/reply/2014/06/27/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482405598248460288)
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KartikPrabhu !tell tantek: note twitter card funniness: https://twitter.com/kyle_wm/status/482405598248460288 ;)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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kylewm oh thanks KartikPrabhu! that is a good suggestion. I think previously it was more clear which part was the reply-context because it the avatar was inside the upper div
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kylewm and doh, i thought i fixed the high res tantek-face in my twitter card
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: take a screenshot to show tantek :P
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Loqi tantek: KartikPrabhu left you a message 37 minutes ago: note twitter card funniness: https://twitter.com/kyle_wm/status/482405598248460288 ;)
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tantek whoa wtf. what are you doing with your /twittercards kylewm! https://twitter.com/kyle_wm/status/482405598248460288
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@kyle_wm @paddyforan concerned abt this too & wondering how to do better. fwiw 2/4 #indiewebcamp founders happen to be women…https://kylewm.com/reply/2014/06/27/1 (twitter.com/_/status/482405598248460288)
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@EduPunkN00b @horse_klabnik We need to join the #indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/482418716236197890)
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@nicolas2fr RT @benwerd: I'm en route to IndieWebCamp. It's not too late to join these amazing people in PDX, NY or Berlin: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/482439791636905985)
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pfefferle good morning
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GWG Good morning, pfefferle
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tantek good morning GWG
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GWG tantek: Good morning
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GWG tantek: pfefferle said Good morning two hours ago and no one responded. I didn't want him to feel alone.
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bnvk tantek: good mornin
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GWG tantek: Will be seeing you tomorrow though.
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bnvk tantek: do you have access to the IWC Twitter account? It would be good to blast out a Tweet from there ref @agoracollective for sponsoring our location
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pfefferle GWG ;)
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pfefferle tantek good morning
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tantek bnvk - will do
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tantek bnvk that work ^^^
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bnvk thanks
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tantek got to run (literally)
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tantek ttyl!
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GWG tantek: Run tantek run!
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GWG So, tomorrow is IWC.
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bnvk yes
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GWG Is there excitement?
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bnvk GWG: definitely!
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@jimgroom @holden @indiewebcamp Nice, @benwerd know many of the folks there, anyway to get an attendees list :) I'm interested to hear about yoru exp. (twitter.com/_/status/482512310171598848)
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GWG Should be more involved than last time
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GWG pfefferle: I've been looking at widget placement. Do you have any thoughts from your experience?
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pfefferle global header, global footer, sidebar and perhaps before and after a post
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pfefferle I would say
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GWG Before and after a post isn't as common. I have a header one, and I put in a footer one, but haven't finished styling those.
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GWG I had this idea about an upper and lower loop with a widget in between
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GWG pfefferle: I seem to be throwing everything into this. Wondering at what point it becomes too complex.
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pfefferle ;)
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pfefferle GWG I think I will add some more Widget Areas too… It makes a theme more flexible!
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@scarpent I like the sound of this: IndieWeb http://www.wordyard.com/2014/06/26/indieweb-intro/ (twitter.com/_/status/482523824660185088)
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GWG Theme options are another one that I am looking at
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GWG Problem with figuring out what an Indieweb supported theme should be.
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kylewm !tell tantek sorry about broadcasting your face on that tweet. i fixed the twitter card markup, but twitter has it cached for ~24 hours. i at least documented my mistake here ;) http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter_Cards#IndieWeb_Examples
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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@benwerd @holden Awesome - I'm already going to the hackathon. We should talk this weekend! @jimgroom RSVP s so far: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/482537293022892032)
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Loqi [mention] http://werd.io/2014/holden-awesome---im-already-going-to-the-hackathon-we linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (webmention)
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gRegor` kylewm: I'm interested in the design elements topic for IWC, too.
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Loqi [mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/06/27/indiewebcamp-2014-pdxnyc/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/06/27/indiewebcamp-2014-pdxnyc/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/06/27/indiewebcamp-2014-pdxnyc/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Projects (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://silencematters.com/2014/06/27/indiewebcamp-2014-pdxnyc/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Principles (pingback)
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@jeremyzilar #IndieWebCamp 2014 PDX/NYC http://silencematters.com/?p=997 (twitter.com/_/status/482553823538323456)
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gRegor` Woo, linkless posse-post-discovery worked!
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bnvk linkless?
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@ServiceSphere RT @benwerd: I'm en route to IndieWebCamp. It's not too late to join these amazing people in PDX, NY or Berlin: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (twitter.com/_/status/482555011851755520)
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kylewm glad to hear it, gRegor` !
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kylewm bnvk: comment backfeed from bridgy on twitter posts without a link to the original
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gRegor` bnvk: This note links to twitter, but twitter doesn't link back. I received a twitter wm in reply to it, though. http://gregorlove.com/notes/2014/06/27/1/
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@jeremyzilar #IndieWebCamp is happening in both PDX & NYC this weekend. Come build tools for the independent web @indiewebcamp http://silencematters.com/2014/06/27/indiewebcamp-2014-pdxnyc/ (twitter.com/_/status/482555313309368320)
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gRegor` The wm isn't displayed yet
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gRegor` I'm also playing around with richer notes on my site, with a simpler text version for twitter. Manually, currently.
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gRegor` Thus the italics and link text
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@brennannovak @jeremyzilar @indiewebcamp and here in Berlin :) (twitter.com/_/status/482560916903714816)
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aaronpk bnvk: do you have berlin schedule up anywhere?
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shaners Here's a last minute event thought (unless it's already been discussed previously):
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aaronpk ooh I see it http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Berlin/Schedule
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shaners The Internet’s Own Boy (the story of Aaron Swartz) was released today. In both theaters and online.
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shaners Maybe we could put together a post camp screening on Saturday?
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benwerd2 shaners: I'm potentially in. Kickstartered that
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benwerd2 depends what's going on though - my priority is catching up with everyone
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shaners of course
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aaronpk i think i'd rather hang out with people afterwards honestly
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bnvk aaronpk: yah it's light and lose at the moment http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Berlin/Schedule
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aaronpk but don't let me stop a contingent from doing to it!
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shaners I'm just throwing it out there. Depending on how the group is feeling, etc.
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shaners My priority is the people connection/catchup too.
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@anomalily This weekend is going to be ridiculous: Bike to bikey wedding at Edgefield, then @pedalpalooza, then MCBF, then @indiewebcamp! Much awesome! (twitter.com/_/status/482566179702050817)
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gRegor` I can't find it in the chat logs, but someone offered to let my girlfriend borrow a laptop for IWC Portland. Might want to take you up on that, if you see this. Just ping me.
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GWG Wasn't me
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gRegor` Well yeah. It was someone west. ;)
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gRegor` We talked about Chromebooks after, though. I should have picked one up at the time.
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GWG gRegor`: I have a Chromebook. I turned it into a Fedorabook not long ago. I like ChromeOS, but it is still missing things. Based on I/O, they might be here soon
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GWG If they are still selling those refurbed ones cheap...
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kylewm gRegor`: no sales tax in Oregon, good place to buy a new laptop if you cn't find a loaner
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gRegor` Looks like King Arthur is coming to IWC West! (Nate Goldman) http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List
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gRegor` Hah, good to know. :)
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@jimgroom @benwerd @holden I'm really bummed I can't make it to that IndieWebCamp tomorrow. It looks awesome, I hope to see some reportage :) (twitter.com/_/status/482575612125904898)
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@erinjo Hey #osb14 - @benwerd is in town today. If you want to chat more about @withknown or #indieweb, ping us! (twitter.com/_/status/482576704196468737)
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gRegor` 33 so far for West
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kylewm that's amazing, i was excited when it was at 17 a couple days ago
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GWG gRegor`: Feh
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@benwerd RT @erinjo: Hey #osb14 - @benwerd is in town today. If you want to chat more about @withknown or #indieweb, ping us! (twitter.com/_/status/482576929812279296)
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GWG No one wants to go east
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aaronpk wow I hope I ordered enough food!
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GWG Why do you think I made a special KartikPrabhu sign
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gRegor` I think there's been a lot of recruitment at osbridge
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gRegor` Maybe I'll do east next year, GWG. I've wanted to visit Portland for a while, plus, girlfriend's out that way. :)
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@kevinmarks RT @erinjo: Hey #osb14 - @benwerd is in town today. If you want to chat more about @withknown or #indieweb, ping us! (twitter.com/_/status/482577571604094976)
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@indiewebcamp RT @erinjo: Hey #osb14 - @benwerd is in town today. If you want to chat more about @withknown or #indieweb, ping us! (twitter.com/_/status/482577649206718464)
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kylewm GWG: http://paddy.io/ was tweeting indieweb yesterday and is in Brooklyn
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GWG We'll see who shows
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gRegor` 11 is pretty good for east, first time. Being at NYT, I bet more might show up last minute.
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GWG gRegor`: Second time
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GWG gRegor`: Indiewebcamp NYC was a bit less...notice
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aaronpk anybody know how many rooms we have at NYT
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GWG If it is the same as last time, 1
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gRegor` tantek said 2, I think
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GWG YOu'll have to ask though
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gRegor` Man, I hate tables in mediawiki
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aaronpk true
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aaronpk you can always fall back to html tables
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kylewm aaronpk: tantek did say 2
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kylewm 2 that can be combined into 1 big room
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aaronpk ok cool. I want to set up separate schedule grids for the locations
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aaronpk or wait maybe not...
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gRegor` Given 3 simultaneous events, is it worth making /2014/Schedule/Portland, etc?
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gRegor` Hah
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aaronpk and I heard you'll have two cameras/laptops at NY too?
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gRegor` Jinx
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gRegor` I was just thinking the same, aaronpk. :)
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aaronpk tantek! yay!
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Loqi woot
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Loqi tantek: kylewm left you a message 3 hours, 22 minutes ago: sorry about broadcasting your face on that tweet. i fixed the twitter card markup, but twitter has it cached for ~24 hours. i at least documented my mistake here ;) http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter_Cards#IndieWeb_Examples
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aaronpk got some time to chat about scheduling?
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aaronpk also what's the status of NYC pre-party?
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GWG aaronpk: No one seemed to be around, tantek is in late, so I invited KartikPrabhu to lunch
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aaronpk k
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aaronpk i'm going to take it off the schedule page then
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GWG aaronpk: How will this compare to Indiewebcamp NYC in your opinion? That was a bit more informal, I think. You videoed in.
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tantek greetings!
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tantek !tell kylewm thanks for tracking down and documenting the twittercard bug!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell aaronpk, KartikPrabhu I thought we were doing late night IWC2014 NYC pre-party drinks 23:59 at the Element hotel bar?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG tantek: I must have missed that. Apologies.
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GWG tantek: I remember you saying you weren't in till late
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tantek aaronpk, since you're here, and it looks like we have A LOT of new folks this year, we're going to be need to be deliberate about explaining key IndieWeb principles / culture / conventions
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tantek you too bnvk
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tantek e.g. /principles
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/480530061326442496/235193328 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List#Farther_East (webmention)
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tantek Every IWC intro by the leads should go over the principles - just in case people haven't seen / read them and also as a good reminder of why we are here
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GWG tantek: How do you think this will differ from my last indiewebcamp experience?
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tantek GWG - more people, more projects, more cross-pollination from other locations
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tantek and LOTS more activity in IRC, Etherpads, Wiki
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aaronpk waves
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 6 minutes ago: I thought we were doing late night IWC2014 NYC pre-party drinks 23:59 at the Element hotel bar?
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aaronpk yes, going to have to do a more formal intro session in addition to the "what works today" demos
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GWG I've never used Etherpad
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aaronpk idea for RSVPs for next event: sign in with indieauth, click "rsvp", the event page looks at your home page for an h-card and uses that to fill in details
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tantek GWG go practice: http://etherpad.mozilla.com/indieweb
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aaronpk tantek: maybe worth making a short html slide deck for the intro session?
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@adron RT @erinjo: Hey #osb14 - @benwerd is in town today. If you want to chat more about @withknown or #indieweb, ping us! (twitter.com/_/status/482582201335160833)
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tantek aaronpk - idea for RSVPs for next event: you post your RSVP to your own site and send the webmention to events.indiewebcamp.com/2015
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aaronpk we talked about doing that for this year but never got around to it
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tantek aaronpk - no slides
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aaronpk i think it depends on how high we want to set the bar
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tantek we should all be able to do this off the of our heads
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aaronpk anyway we'll talk about next year later :) in the mean time let's talk about tomorrow
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tantek the intro
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aaronpk it's not about whether we can do it off the top of our heads, it's more about giving people something to anchor to
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tantek so that's the home page and /principles
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tantek no need to duplicate that
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aaronpk so NYC is going to get off to an earlier start than us because timezones. by my estimate, we'll end updoing the intro sesssions while you guys are at lunch http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule##Saturday
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tantek start with your video
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aaronpk unless you do an earlier lunch and want to join our intro session after your lunch
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tantek wonders if it's worth writing up a "how to start an indiewebcamp" summary
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aaronpk yes definitely
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aaronpk will especially be useful as more people in other cities are hosting events that you or I aren't at
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aaronpk and will also be useful so I don't accidentally forget something
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@adron Just had a conversation about #indieweb and #personalcloud … are those ideas easily merge-able? Pondering the technology in field already. (twitter.com/_/status/482583757904306176)
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aaronpk also will make sure we take the group photo at the right time :)
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aaronpk tantek: actually yeah what do you htink about doing your lunch from 12-1 so that you can join us for our intros at 1pm East 10am West?
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tantek key pieces: 1. welcome to the 4th annual indiewebcamp! 2. aaronpk squarespace parody video, 3. brief history: frustration with silos/silo-deaths, frustrated social web summit. 4. show IWC home page. 5. note decision to focus on personal-site scratch-your-own-itch doers. 6. personal-site before-camp demos (MUST be a demo you show using your primary personal site, NOT: secondary site, demo deployment, other corp/school/org site)
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tantek 7. explanation of today (brainstorming sessions) vs. tomorrow (hack sessions)
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tantek 8. barcamp 101 (how barcamp sessions are scheduled, for the few that have never been to one)
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tantek 9. session scheduling
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tantek 10. camp leaders call *start your sessions* at first session start time.
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GWG Isn't a leader in a camp called a counselor?
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aaronpk hahaha
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Loqi hehe
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tantek aaronpk - sounds good re: moving lunch / syncing-up
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aaronpk great, will update
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tantek thank you!
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aaronpk i'm goign to add our room names in a minute with video feature descriptions
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aaronpk I could add two additional columns for NY in the same schedule grid? Or split into separate schedule grids. what do you think?
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@kid_OYO Impressive 'Book of Proceedings' #iiw http://iiw.idcommons.net/images/6/61/IIWXVIII_-18_Book_of_Proceedings_a.pdf ht @windley @dsearls @IdentityWoman and rest.. #vrm #indieweb #idesg #selfid (twitter.com/_/status/482588183843340288)
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gRegor` I think 2 more columns makes it pretty cramped
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aaronpk we actually have 4 fancy rooms and like 3 other rooms we can use as backup rooms
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aaronpk so much space here, it's crazy
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tantek aaronpk - that's awesome!
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tantek we have two adjacent rooms in NYC that we'll combine for the intro then split
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aaronpk cool. yeah I think one giant schedule grid would be fun, but it's gonna be a tight squeeze on the page
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tantek aaronpk, with IMing individual New Yorkers, I am confirming that NO ONE READS TWITTER ANYMORE
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tantek we are truly at a cross-roads this year
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tantek with peak silo UX
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tantek and with silo reading burnout
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aaronpk wow
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tantek too much noise on Twitter
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tantek too much loss of signal on FB News Feed, plus too much buzzfeed/upworthy noise gaming the FB algorithms
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tantek reading is dead, yet again
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aaronpk dang
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tantek huge opportunity for someone to build a sensible IndieWeb reading/writing tool
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tantek with a better, higher-signal than the silos
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@windley RT @kid_OYO: Impressive 'Book of Proceedings' #iiw http://iiw.idcommons.net/images/6/61/IIWXVIII_-18_Book_of_Proceedings_a.pdf ht @windley @dsearls @IdentityWoman and rest.. #vrm #indieweb #id… (twitter.com/_/status/482592295108108288)
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@idworkshop RT @kid_OYO: Impressive 'Book of Proceedings' #iiw http://iiw.idcommons.net/images/6/61/IIWXVIII_-18_Book_of_Proceedings_a.pdf ht @windley @dsearls @IdentityWoman and rest.. #vrm #indieweb #id… (twitter.com/_/status/482592295103897600)
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tantek pdf;dr
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aaronpk pretty much the only way I read twitter is via this IRC channel
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aaronpk the realtime aspect of it is great
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tantek ^^^ http://tantek.com/2013/305/t2/pdf-dr-avoid-clicking-link-pdf
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tantek aaronpk, yeah, me too, this channel and #microformats
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bnvk tantek: is it ok if I use your slideshow about the history of the IndieWeb to do an overview tomorrow?
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tantek bnvk - you may use all my slides CC-BY
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tantek incorporate and remix as you see fit
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tantek they're all in HTML
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bnvk sweet
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bnvk which is the best URL to use?
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@adron @erinjo @johannes_ernst @indieboxproject very cool. Working on some amenities for #personalcloud/#indieweb currently. (twitter.com/_/status/482593344917213185)
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@jlsuttles This weekend I will be in Portland at #IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com (twitter.com/_/status/482593361979662337)
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tantek bnvk - the most recent: http://tantek.com/2014/175/t1/pdf14-why-need-indieweb-video-slides
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tantek you're welcome to play that video as a 13min introduction if that's not too long
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bnvk yep, that's the one I was thinking :)
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bnvk radsauce
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tantek oh man Jeremy's post reminds me that I left the /projects page in-progress!!!
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tantek (so much to do before IWC - feeling crushing weight ...)
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kylewm tantek: bret is working on it too http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Bret.io/projects
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 57 minutes ago: thanks for tracking down and documenting the twittercard bug!
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kylewm thanks :)
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@Johannes_Ernst @erinjo @adron I think of #pcloud as the thing that runs on an #IndieBox, and exposes itself as one ore more #Indieweb sites to public (twitter.com/_/status/482594472509726720)
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tantek kylewm - we need to keep incrementally updating it
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tantek it's too big to attempt a massive big change IMO
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tantek (takes too long etc.)
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@brennannovak @adron if is a #personalcloud community, itd be good to work towards shared installer (store) http://indiewebcamp.com/store @Johannes_Ernst @erinjo (twitter.com/_/status/482595845519712256)
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aaronpk tantek: do your rooms have names?
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@tessa I’m attending #indiewebcamp NYC this weekend! Are you? (twitter.com/_/status/482596941281632256)
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tantek aaronpk - not yet!
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@glenda I've made a plan for #IndieWebCamp 2014 http://awe.sm/q6wIR via @plancast, of course thanks to @t for not treating me like a dumbass. (twitter.com/_/status/482598013756399616)
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tantek lol
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GWG tantek: You wouldn't do that, would you?
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tantek is hustling up some last minute IndieWebCamp East recruits!
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aaronpk wow
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tantek (hence he knows that NO ONE READS TWITTER ANYMORE)(
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GWG tantek: Good luck
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GWG I don't know anyone.
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@kevinmarks My guest appearance on the "What To Think" podcast with @jolieodell and @dylan20, talking Procrustes and #Indieweb http://vbwhattothink.libsyn.com/venturebeats-what-to-think-episode-10 (twitter.com/_/status/482598985580826624)
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Loqi KevinMarks: GWG left you a message on 6/26 at 2:47pm: Tried to listen to your Venturebeat appearance
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GWG KevinMarks: Apparently there was an audio issue
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KevinMarks oh
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GWG KevinMarks: You sounded like you were in a tunnel.
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KevinMarks weird. we had a mic each
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KevinMarks sounds like Dylan is coming in through jolie's mic
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GWG Jolie O'Dell sounded normal. You and him both sounded like you were far away. I think someone must have messed up a setting.
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KevinMarks Jolie says nice things about me at the beginning :D
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GWG I heard that.
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GWG KevinMarks: You are a great cocktail party guest.
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KevinMarks I hadn't heard the front bit - Jolie saying that Amzon Fire is the idiot phone
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aaronpk tantek: what do you think of this? http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule##Picard+Riker
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aaronpk brb, going to the grocery store and office depot now that the sun is out! (don't like the weather in portland, just wait 10 minutes!)
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GWG I'm not going to ask who named the rooms
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GWG KevinMarks: Also, I feel your pain about Lindt
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GWG I haven't forgiven them for not making H Halvah
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kylewm NYT rooms can be Dowd, Krugman
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GWG I met Krugman.
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GWG But for only a second
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KevinMarks wow, I am almost inaudible
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KevinMarks they couldn't level this?
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GWG KevinMarks: Apparently not
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kylewm GWG: that's cool. i saw Robert Reich walking around Berkeley
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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KevinMarks Glenda++
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tantek welcome tessa!!
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tessa yay!
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Loqi woot
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@kevinmarks @quinnnorton @zeynep @jilliancyork @skome @whvholst we have a decent list of IRC clients at http://indiewebcamp.com/IRC#Clients (twitter.com/_/status/482604479146393600)
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GWG More people, good
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@veganstraightedge @danielpunkass Micropub: http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub See also: https://quill.p3k.io (twitter.com/_/status/482605056118640640)
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tantek and we just hit double-digits Creators for NYC!
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kylewm tantek++ for aggressive recruiting and "IndieWeb Projects: looking into where to stay in NYC"
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@kevinmarks @quinnnorton @jilliancyork @zeynep I'd love you all to join in with #indieweb with your use cases http://indiewebcamp.com (twitter.com/_/status/482609743253348352)
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snarfed kylewm: thanks again for being the bridgy representative this weekend and answering questions, etc
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snarfed sad that we have to be elsewhere for a wedding
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snarfed i may be on irc a bit. hopefully next year in person!
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Loqi j12t: aaronpk left you a message on 6/24 at 4:12pm: just got your email announcement to the indiebox list! That would make a great post on your blog! I'd love to link to it!
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kylewm snarfed: you will be very missed!
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kylewm and if anyone's on or interested in tumblr/wordpress/blogger, i'll make sure to give it a plug
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@indieboxproject Indie Web Camp this weekend #indieweb http://indieboxproject.org/blog/?p=572 (twitter.com/_/status/482615512161980418)
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snarfed thanks!
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snarfed kylewm: any idea what you're going to hack on on sun?
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kylewm snarfed: I'm all over the place... sort of planning to be inspired on Saturday :)
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kylewm right now i'm kind of focused on visual designy stuff
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GWG Inspiration is good
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GWG Visual Designy Stuff?
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kylewm also considering trying to add a micropub comment form, so people could author comments locally and have them posted back to their own site
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snarfed oh wow, cool
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kylewm snarfed: brid.gy todo's that you'd like to add to the candidate list?
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snarfed kylewm: thanks for asking! no, not really. you have the right plan, talk to people and see what strikes you
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snarfed worst case, you're welcome to work on the full many-to-many SyndicatedPost thing…but only if you get desperate :P
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kylewm ok cool :)
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kylewm also keeping my ears open for ideas about 1) streamlining publishing or 2) making it easier for new-comers to get set up
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kylewm <-- all over the place
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gRegor` ALL THE THINGS!
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gRegor` Re: kylewm
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kylewm so much time and so little to do. strike that, reverse it.
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gRegor` Yep :) I'm gonna focus on getting Amanda set up posting on her own site, but I know I'm gonna be tempted/distracted by other ideas too
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aaronpk just got back from shopping for breakfast food for tomorrow!
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aaronpk lots of fruit. debating whether bagels are a good idea.
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rascul aaronpk bagels are always a good idea
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aaronpk only downside is people filling up on carbs in the morning. maybe bagels day 1 but not on day 2 hack day :)
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gRegor` bagels++
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gRegor` coffee++
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aaronpk definitely coffee
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rascul no like coffee
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gRegor` Heretic! ;)
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GWG i don't either
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j12t aaronpk: tomorrow … is there some way I can plug a piece of hardware into physical ethernet?
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Loqi [@skry] RT @scottros: On my way tomorrow to Portland for IndieWebCamp
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Loqi here's why, in form of a quick intro to this topic http://www.wordyard.com/2014/06/26/indieweb-intro/ (http://twtr.io/ntSEqaub14)
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aaronpk hmm... not sure
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aaronpk i believe all our physical ports are on the internal network which I can't let you plug in to
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j12t indie box demo … box wants ethernet
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aaronpk is it possible to set up an airport as a bridge, so that it joins a wireless network and provides an ethernet jack on that network?
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aaronpk i have a spare airport
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aaronpk actually the airport express ones do that, right? the ones that play audio?
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j12t I don’t know, never done that. How does it look like to my box? Just like any other EThernet that provides DHCP?
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aaronpk yeah
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j12t that should work!
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aaronpk i don't even have any wired devices to test, heh
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aaronpk everything in this office is wireless
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j12t how do you set it up then?
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aaronpk i think apple black magic sets it up
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j12t at least you need to select the SSID?
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aaronpk there's that airport configuration utility thing which seems to be magic
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j12t apt-get install libblackmagic
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j12t could you bring that device and we can see whether we can get it to work?
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aaronpk yeah. i might get a chance to play with it this afternoon too
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j12t stress test on how many DHCP / NAT traversals you can chain in a row, and still get it to work :-)
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j12t that’s great, that you!
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j12t s/that/thank/
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Loqi j12t meant to say: thank’s great, thank you!
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j12t what the …?
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j12t I didn’t say /g, so shouldn’t it have replaced the first occurence instead of the second one?
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aaronpk i think it defaults to /g
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aaronpk man i'm so reluctant to get starbucks coffee but they make it so easy with the travel boxes
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emmak j12t: aaronpk: my netbook doesn't seem to work with esri's wifi, so I'd be interested in wired connectivity too
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aaronpk emmak: have you tried at our new office yet? it's just airports now
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aaronpk we ditched the whole crazy Cisco setup they had set up at the old office
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emmak aaronpk: yes, no luck at your new office
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aaronpk huh, that's bizarre. it's literally just a couple of airport extremes doing their own routing and dhcp
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aaronpk i'll see if this wired bridge trick works
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kylewm aaronpk: starbucks isn't very indie (or very good) but they do pay for their employees to go to college
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kylewm i assuage my guilt with that
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snarfed aaronpk: for iwc sf, i had fun walking into a random coffee shop and talking them into renting me a full scale urn
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snarfed i'd throw down the gauntlet…but you all have enough work to do without making it even harder :P
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aaronpk I could probably do that, there are lots of coffee shops around here
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aaronpk i do need to get coffee this afternoon anyway. just to drink.
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aaronpk bagels have been ordered!
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tantek got bumped to the next flight - not going to make it to Manhattan til ~24:30
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@benwerd RT @kevinmarks: My guest appearance on the "What To Think" podcast with @jolieodell and @dylan20, talking Procrustes and #Indieweb http://t… (twitter.com/_/status/482634410668195841)
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tantek !tell GWG, KartikPrabhu I got bumped to next flight - arriving at Element closer to 24:30 now. See http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Schedule#Friday_2014-06-27_IndieWebCamp_Pre-Parties and add yourself if you expect to make it!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegor`_ Signing off from Chicago. Seeya tomorrow, Portland!
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bret fly well!
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@erinjo @destinyb47546 Both @benwerd and I are in town right now for #indieweb camp this weekend. (twitter.com/_/status/482645591088836608)
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@indiewebcamp IndieWebCamp pre-party at Pints in Portland today at 4:30pm! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2014/06/27/1/indiewebcamp-pre-party Drink tickets thanks to @withknown! (twitter.com/_/status/482649772860260356)
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@aaronpk RT @indiewebcamp: IndieWebCamp pre-party at Pints in Portland today at 4:30pm! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2014/06/27/1/indiewebcamp-pre-party Drink tickets thanks to @withknown! (twitter.com/_/status/482650973328773121)
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@bretolius RT @indiewebcamp: IndieWebCamp pre-party at Pints in Portland today at 4:30pm! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2014/06/27/1/indiewebcamp-pre-party Drink tickets thanks to @withknown! (twitter.com/_/status/482653340744945665)
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aaronpk omg i just had the best idea for the badges, but not sure I can pull it off in the next 20min
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bret whut!
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aaronpk i can generate them all automatically from the RSVP list since everyone's marked up as an h-card
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bret aaronpk you might be able to get one of these: http://www.polygon.com/2014/6/27/5849142/nabu-beta-test-razer
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bret not sure if its interesting though
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@benwerd RT @indiewebcamp: IndieWebCamp pre-party at Pints in Portland today at 4:30pm! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2014/06/27/1/indiewebcamp-pre-party Drink tickets thanks to @withknown! (twitter.com/_/status/482660059009146880)
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@caseorganic IndieWebCamp preparty at Pints right now! #indieweb Stop by! http://aaronparecki.com/events/2014/06/27/1/indiewebcamp-pre-party (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/06/27/2/indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/482673347247869953)
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