#indiewebcamp 2014-06-29

2014-06-29 UTC
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aaronpk let's take notes on readers here! https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indie-reader
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rascul i feel like indieweb should have it's own etherpad instead of mozilla's
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aaronpk we're getting there for sure :)
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rascul https://github.com/mozilla/etherpad-lite
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aaronpk i've installed it before actually
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@indieboxproject RT @benwerd: Awesome photo of #indiewebcamp PDX 2014! http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp-esripdx (twitter.com/_/status/483040360604524544)
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@ungoldman Great discussions and project ideas at #indiewebcamp today! Looking forward to making things tomorrow 🔜🚀 (twitter.com/_/status/483040901673918464)
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JonathanNeal Should fragmentions only apply to headings and paragraphs?
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rascul no
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JonathanNeal and list items? Or everything? Everything gets complicated.
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JonathanNeal Okay.
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rascul text can be outside of paragraphs and headings
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JonathanNeal <p>match <span>match</span></p> I think this scenario fails in the current version. I’m trying to resolve it.
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JonathanNeal Thanks rascul, your feedback is clear and concise.
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rascul example, items in a list might not be in a paragraphg
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JonathanNeal In the above example, <p> and <span> should both be returned, each for different matches.
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JonathanNeal I think I’ll have to count the number of matches in an element, and then subtract from that number for each descendent that also returns a match.
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bret http://talky.io/riker
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bret big meeting :)
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JonathanNeal bret: big meeting of / for?
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bret indie readers
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aaronpk we muted you guys on the video, so wave or IRC if you want to jump in
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JonathanNeal http://indiewebcamp.com/reader ?
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bret talking about building an indie reader
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bnvk1 what state is the MF plugin for Selfoss?
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aaronpk bnvk1: it's just okay right now, not great
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bnvk1 is that what you're talking about re-factoring or are you starting from scratch?
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aaronpk it's in here https://github.com/aaronpk/selfoss/tree/master/spouts/microformats
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aaronpk we'd be starting from scratch
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bnvk1 awe ok. any particular reason instead of just hard forking Selfoss?
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aaronpk probably worth looking at hard-forking it
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aaronpk the "spout" idea/classes they have might be useful if nothing else
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bnvk1 +1 to those ideas :)
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bnvk1 I've been having some decent success using Jinja (python) + Mustache / Underscore's _.template()
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aaronpk pdx is heading to dinner!
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@schnarfed Wish I was at @indiewebcamp this weekend! You guys are doing awesome, important work. Can’t wait to see this year's crazy new ideas! (twitter.com/_/status/483053558418247680)
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@jgarber Bummed to be missing #IndieWebCamp but looking forward to reading about what everyone's working on. (twitter.com/_/status/483053909175726081)
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bnvk1 good night y'all- exciting stuff over there :P
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Loqi laila tov!
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GWG came home.
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GWG aaronpk: You taught Loqi that?
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Loqi who, me?
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@jgarber If any #IndieWebCamp participants are using @craftcms, you may enjoy this webmention plugin: http://sixtwothree.org/blog/sending-webmentions-with-craft/ (twitter.com/_/status/483054769792360448)
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@benwerd Sneak preview. What can we get done in a day? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/483054971147935745/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483054971147935745)
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@thetoxicarcade RT @benwerd: Sneak preview. What can we get done in a day? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/483054971147935745/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483055327214985217)
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@marihuertas Catching up reading tweets about #indiewebcamp in PDX. :) (twitter.com/_/status/483057009101922305)
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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GWG Long day.
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GWG Wish I had heard some of the Portland stuff though.
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@znmeb RT @benwerd: Sneak preview. What can we get done in a day? #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/483054971147935745/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483060083316641793)
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@benwerd @znmeb No - but it could be a fun indieweb tool. (twitter.com/_/status/483060458975293440)
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@anomalily Just finished up my shift at @pedalpalooza Bike Fair - anything still going down tonight for #indieweb? cc @caseorganic @aaronpk @ungoldman (twitter.com/_/status/483078242765520896)
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@anomalily @caseorganic @aaronpk @ungoldman Thought it was possible there was a secret spontaneous #indieweb overlords karaoke party tonight. (twitter.com/_/status/483079640437649409)
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@LobsterNews Tantek Celik, "Why We Need the IndieWeb", #PDF14 https://www.youtube.com/ https://lobste.rs/s/w55jml (twitter.com/_/status/483079976753696768)
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@ungoldman @anomalily was talking with @bretolius & others about needing to make more accessible #indieweb publishing tools for artists & zinesters (twitter.com/_/status/483080399422095360)
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@jlsuttles I coined selfkoolaid today at #indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/selfkoolaid (twitter.com/_/status/483083109173190657)
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@jlsuttles I left my phone on the table and came back to a @veganstraightedge and @notenoughneon photo shoot 💁 #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/jlsuttles/status/483083549466046464/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483083549466046464)
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@veganstraightedge RT @jlsuttles: I left my phone on the table and came back to a @veganstraightedge and @notenoughneon photo shoot 💁 #indiewebcamp http://t.c… (twitter.com/_/status/483083915318403072)
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JonathanNeal I think fragmention has to be almost completely rewritten, ugh.
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@bretolius RT @ungoldman: @anomalily was talking with @bretolius & others about needing to make more accessible #indieweb publishing tools for artists… (twitter.com/_/status/483088802253008898)
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@dariusdunlap Wishing I was at #indiewebcamp this weekend, but sipping a beer while cooking a nice dinner for my wife is pretty swell, too. (twitter.com/_/status/483089087226580992)
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@KristelMiskin RT @dariusdunlap: Wishing I was at #indiewebcamp this weekend, but sipping a beer while cooking a nice dinner for my wife is pretty swell, … (twitter.com/_/status/483090433195921408)
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@znmeb @sarahjeong Well ... there's #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483093893186334721)
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@stkntp RT @benwerd: Facebook tinkered with users’ feeds for a massive psychology experiment http://www.avclub.com/article/facebook-tinkered-users-feeds-massive-psychology-e-206324 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483099528766042112)
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@kevinmarks @cdixon @smagdali @fromedome @BenedictEvans no, just the non #indieweb parts (twitter.com/_/status/483104670013861888)
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bret !tell aaronpk reminder to pack that usb ethernet adapter
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@billywwells New Billy Wells Horror Book Trailer! https://www.youtube.com/ #horror #kindle #zombies #ebooks #scarystoriestime #amazon #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483106900188221440)
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KartikPrabhu Good IWC first experience! :)
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KartikPrabhu JonathanNeal: why reweite fragmention?
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@kevinmarks @cdixon your continual conflation of "the web" with silos is the unacknowledged problem #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483115424377106432)
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@ayirpelle RT @kevinmarks: @cdixon your continual conflation of "the web" with silos is the unacknowledged problem #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483115574239584256)
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@kartik_prabhu @marihuertas Sounds great! Usual plan is posted on http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-07-02-homebrew-website-club don’t know how a cafe it’ll work for 3 people talk. (twitter.com/_/status/483117268230877184)
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JonathanNeal KartikPrabhu: I don’t think it grabs the right elements. I think we’ve been lucking out.
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KartikPrabhu oh wow! what is the problem?
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JonathanNeal Well, the good news is, 99% of the time we luck out.
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KartikPrabhu ah ok.some strange edge cases then
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JonathanNeal For now.
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KartikPrabhu I'm at the IWC in NYC and plan to hash out the margin-comments thing tomorrow, but I'll watch th fragmentions repo for updates
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JonathanNeal That’s awesome!
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KartikPrabhu alrighty! out for the night
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@kevinmarks @nrrrdcore on the #indieweb, and twitter too (twitter.com/_/status/483122272761163777)
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aaronpk amazing day 1 everyone!!
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Loqi aaronpk: bret left you a message 1 hour, 13 minutes ago: reminder to pack that usb ethernet adapter
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aaronpk oh thanks bret
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@aaronpk @nrrrdcore in Portland because IndieWebCamp! (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/06/28/2/) (twitter.com/_/status/483124525488279552)
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aaronpk bret: I can't find it!!!
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JonathanNeal KartikPrabhu: the part that breaks is the ability to target second, third, fourth, entries, etc. That’s why we haven’t noticed it.
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aaronpk tantek: remind me again why it's necessary for twitter.com/aaronpk to link back to aaronparecki.com? if I am attempting to identify as aaronparecki.com and aaronparecki.com links to twitter.com/aaronpk and I can prove that I am twitter.com/aaronpk then isn't that enough?
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@_jden @ungoldman also, from our discussion of assets at #indiewebcamp, could totally link to magnet URNs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnet_URI_scheme (twitter.com/_/status/483138148063383552)
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Loqi [mention] http://pdxmob.com/indiewebcamp-2014-pre-party/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2013/Guest_List (pingback)
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Loqi [mention] http://pdxmob.com/indiewebcamp-2014/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Guest_List (pingback)
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JonathanNeal KartikPrabhu: example: https://gist.github.com/jonathantneal/ddf0544629d0ef1892fe
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@aaronpk IndieWebCamp day 1 was awesome, thanks everyone! Looking forward to making things tomorrow for day 2! (http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/06/29/1/) (twitter.com/_/status/483151406681952256)
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@kevinmarks RT @aaronpk: IndieWebCamp day 1 was awesome, thanks everyone! Looking forward to making things tomorrow for day 2! (http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/06/29/1/) (twitter.com/_/status/483157802039275522)
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@frankpmusic http://frankp.bandcamp.com/album/art #ART #MIXTAPE #RT #favoriteforfavorite #Audiogasm #HOTNEWHIPHOP #newmusic #recordlabels #indiewebcamp #indieart (twitter.com/_/status/483176002374217728)
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@tvgmusic RT @frankpmusic: http://frankp.bandcamp.com/album/art #ART #MIXTAPE #RT #favoriteforfavorite #Audiogasm #HOTNEWHIPHOP #newmusic #recordlabels #indieweb… (twitter.com/_/status/483176623252844546)
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@glennjones Enjoyed remotely following the #indiewebcamp yesterday, looking forward to seeing what comes out of todays design & coding workgroups (twitter.com/_/status/483178965004075009)
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@pfefferle RT @glennjones: Enjoyed remotely following the #indiewebcamp yesterday, looking forward to seeing what comes out of todays design & coding … (twitter.com/_/status/483179729517051904)
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@JockelLohkamp RT @nicolas2fr: #indieweb generation via @indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/nicolas2fr/status/482874161959018496/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483182133067128833)
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@jarofgreen @benwerd Think anyone at #indiewebcamp wld be interested in an open group calendar? http://ican.openacalendar.org/ :-P Wld be good to chat sometime (twitter.com/_/status/483184486176534528)
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@jancborchardt Good first day of #IndieWebCamp Berlin yesterday! See you today as well, 2PM at @agoracollective https://twitter.com/jancborchardt/status/483186406303756288/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483186406303756288)
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jancborchardt bnvk: http://w3c.github.io/manifest/
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pfefferle Good Morning
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Rev_Illo Good morning
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@filtercake .@withknown looks interesting: http://withknown.com/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483191558385451008)
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Rev_Illo Unfortunately I can't be around @ Agora but will follow from here and etherpad
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: Quill won't post to my site
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jonnybarnes I click post and I just get sent back to the new post page
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jonnybarnes Looking at the output of the "Live HTTP Headers" add-on my browser never makes a POST request which is weird
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: Quill works on my iPhone, but not on my MacBook, looking through my server access.log, a POST to /api/post is never made when I try and post from my laptop, it is made when I post from my mobile
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jonnybarnes something is messing with the javascript on my laptop, I'm guessing its NoScript
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@brennannovak Bothered Facebook + US military conducted psychological exp. on 689,003 without consent? Help build the #IndieWeb http://bnvk.me/j8x (twitter.com/_/status/483198663037308928)
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: but it defo does post to my site: https://jonnybarnes.net/notes/1a
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@couperalex RT @brennannovak: Bothered Facebook + US military conducted psychological exp. on 689,003 without consent? Help build the #IndieWeb http://… (twitter.com/_/status/483201636467499008)
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@PlugMeInBaby RT @brennannovak: Bothered Facebook + US military conducted psychological exp. on 689,003 without consent? Help build the #IndieWeb http://… (twitter.com/_/status/483203298816557056)
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@edverillo RT @brennannovak: Bothered Facebook + US military conducted psychological exp. on 689,003 without consent? Help build the #IndieWeb http://… (twitter.com/_/status/483205731215507456)
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@thomaslevine @caseorganic Waa you should have told me that IndieWebCamp was in _Berlin_! I totally could have gone! Like I was there yesterday. (twitter.com/_/status/483206889472544768)
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@brennannovak @Shidash you going to come to #IndieWeb camp today? http://bnvk.me/h1V (twitter.com/_/status/483219706921644032)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/jancborchardt/481674061811290112/481717659533602818 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (webmention)
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@jancborchardt RT @brennannovak: Bothered Facebook + US military conducted psychological exp. on 689,003 without consent? Help build the #IndieWeb http://… (twitter.com/_/status/483223390757855233)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/jancborchardt/481674061811290112/17958179 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (webmention)
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@mozilla_dp <h3> IndieWebCamp 2014 — Thoughts Before The Gathering </h3> #mozilla http://dragplus.com/notfound?&utm_source=site&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=go&utm_term=notfound (twitter.com/_/status/483224970722414594)
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@JockelLohkamp RT @jancborchardt: Good first day of #IndieWebCamp Berlin yesterday! See you today as well, 2PM at @agoracollective https://twitter.com/jancborchardt/status/483186406303756288/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483228129155366912)
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@lowfill First post from my #indieweb site using @withknown (twitter.com/_/status/483232487792214016)
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jeremyzilar Good Morning from NYC
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@t_silos Quick Central Park run before #indiewebcamp 2014 NYC day 2 I just ran 3.29 km @ a 6'40"/km pace with Nike+. http://go.nike.com/3p33t29 #nikeplus (twitter.com/_/status/483239187022618625)
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GWG jeremyzilar: The video up?
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GWG Is there video feed?
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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KartikPrabhu alright day2...
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Is there a talky up?
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KartikPrabhu GWG: not yet. folks aren't all in yet
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GWG KartikPrabhu: Tell me when and where
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GWG I have my camera ready
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KartikPrabhu yeah I'll let you know on IRC when we ar eonline
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GWG I'll be in the vicinity
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bnvk Berlin: camp is up and running
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bnvk people are adding IndieMark 0 on their sites
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@jancborchardt A whole bunch of people at #IndieWebCamp Berlin got IndieAuth working now! http://indiewebcamp.com/Guest_List#Farther_East @indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483247318238789632)
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@railmeat RT @brennannovak: Bothered Facebook + US military conducted psychological exp. on 689,003 without consent? Help build the #IndieWeb http://… (twitter.com/_/status/483249743187820545)
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@billywwells New Billy Wells Horror Book Trailer! https://www.youtube.com/ #horror #kindle #zombies #ebooks #scarystoriestime #amazon #indieweb #indie (twitter.com/_/status/483251489058455554)
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@glennjones I have also added the ‘html to markdown’ tool as an API to my #indieweb tools page http://tools.transmat.io/ maybe useful to someone (twitter.com/_/status/483252598942998528)
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GWG lurks
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/jancborchardt/483247318238789632/5381582 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Guest_List#Farther_East (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/jancborchardt/483247318238789632/235193328 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Guest_List#Farther_East (webmention)
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bnvk glennjones: HTML to markdown?
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GWG Hmm. Portland was definitely busier
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bear_ how so?
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rascul bnvk http://domchristie.github.io/to-markdown/
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GWG bear_: More sessions?
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GWG bear_: No video yet?
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GWG bear_: Their schedule has more sessions from yesterday.
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sandro deiu, maybe http://lawsonry.com/2014/05/diy-angularjs-seo-with-phantomjs-the-easy-way/
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KartikPrabhu GWG: setting up
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GWG Okay
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glennjones bnvk yes I am playing with tools to take data feeds and turn them into file format that can be for static sites
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glennjones example link on http://beta.transmat.io/glennjones/notes/2014-06-29
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@albertinerxtfor Sneak preview. What can we get done in a day? #indiewebcamp http://werd.io/2014/sneak-preview-what-can-we-get-done-in-a-day (twitter.com/_/status/483256589491904512)
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jeremyzilar yo
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KartikPrabhu yo!
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glennjones there is also a couple of other tools on http://tools.transmat.io/ for microformat parsing and webmention poeople may find useful
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jeremyzilar yo yo
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GWG jeremyzilar: Yo yo yo
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bear_ https://talky.io/iwc-nyc
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bear_ GWG ^^
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jancborchardt sssup from Berlin
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emdeika hi
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GWG Hello, emdeika
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GWG I lowered the volume on my end so it wouldn't echo much
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bear_ nice android :)
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GWG How about Silence is Golden?
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GWG chloeweil: Did you take my chair?
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bear_ she did
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GWG Okay.
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bear_ https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp
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tantek NYC: hackday discussions
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tantek NYC: Jeremy - working on a simpler to setup IndieWeb WordPress theme that works for posting from mobile as well
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tantek NYC: bear - try and get a python implementation of micropub endpoint on his site and try and use Quill to test it
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tantek NYC: Sandro - capturing research on subdomain usage, and working on a golang implementation of a webmention receiver (server-side)
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bnvk Berlin: bvnk - working on making Webmention support in Social-Igniter more standardized and easy to install, helping people get their sites up to various IndieMark levels
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bnvk sorry muting myself on the video
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GWG I think I'm hearing my mechanical keyboard echoing back
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tantek NYC: Chloe - working on music metadata liberation stuff, getting it out of itunes, and not having to store it RDIO or Spotify. having your own personal place to store your music metadata - like tagging your tracks.
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GWG I can never get music metadata right.
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tantek NYC: Andrei - working on a File Manager app for his backend so he can browse all the stuff on his server and create new resources
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GWG Whoever classified Beatles as Genre Data on CDDB...
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tantek NYC: Happy - end goal is to build a social aggregator, a site integrated with webmentions all that, integrate all your social networks, the four that Bridgy has access to and put them all on one page, build in such a way that anyone can grab it and use it.
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tantek NYC: Happy - first thing is to get happynchill.in up and running :)
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tantek NYC: Alex - working on my personal site, probably do something similar to Happy
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silencematters.com uploaded /File:indiewebcamp_nyc2014.JPG "IndieWebCamp NYC 2014"
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bear_ bear@andyet.net
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tantek NYC: Kartik - Marginalia - finishing that up. Goal is to get the blog post public that futured for tomorrow.
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silencematters.com uploaded /File:indiewebcamp_nyc2014_night_crew.jpg "IndieWebCamp night crew"
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GWG KartikPrabhu: You can have on-post haventa forewhen presooning returningwenta retrohome.
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GWG It's a quote from Hitchhiker's Guide
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@anomalily Question of Great Importance: will PDX #indiewebcamp have coffee this morning? (twitter.com/_/status/483268443584888832)
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emdeika aaronpk: would you be up for helping me fix https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/issues/59 later in the day?
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bnvk tantek: bear: what are your thoughts about CloudFlare as a stop gap?
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tantek NYC: Tantek - sketched out /2014/reposts quite well yesterday for how to do indieweb /repost UI and presentation. Could work on that today but thinking of working on CSS for People Focused Mobile Communications
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@dannydb_stellar RT @kevinmarks: @cdixon your continual conflation of "the web" with silos is the unacknowledged problem #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483269752337739776)
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tantek NYC: Tantek - also I wanted to talk about how to deal with bad bots - i.e. bots pretending to be IE5.5, or ignoring robots.txt, or ignoring throttling directives
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GWG I know a good CDN for 4 cents a GB
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@aaronpk @anomalily absolutely! In fact I am making it right now and you are welcome to come early! #indiewebcamp (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/06/29/1/indiewebcamp) (twitter.com/_/status/483270048358727681)
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tantek http://tantek.com/2014/141/t1/twitter-vulnerability-cell-service-att-remove-phone
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kylewm good morning iwc! having website problems already :P does anybody know or have a guess why #5 and #6 are not being rotated? (if i right-click> View Image, they are rotated properly) https://kylewm.com/note/2014/06/29/2
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mrflix @tantek: I wrote the CSS for your mobile communication blocks: https://github.com/mrflix/indieweb-contact
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aaronpk oy image rotation...
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tantek aaronpk - CSS? ;)
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bnvk wait, a magnetic phone charging device? WAT? :P
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tantek wireless charging - in Nexus 5 phone
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bnvk wow
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tantek bear has one
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mrflix tantek, comment?
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GWG Someone solved the problem of reposts?
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GWG bnvk: Look up Qi charging
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GWG Several phones have it
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tantek mrflix - how do I view it?
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mrflix first link in the repo
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mrflix http://mrflix.github.io/indieweb-contact/
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tantek mrflix - that's pretty slick!
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GWG tantek: Have you figured out the desktop version?
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tantek GWG - not yet
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mrflix i’ll just quickly add some browser prefixes for mobile safari (-webkit-)
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tantek good call
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jgarber @tantek: Been thinking about your People-Focused Mobile Communication series of posts. Has their been much discussion around creating something like an "IndieWebBrowser" that would present a person's preferred communication channels using native UI (iOS, Android, etc.)?
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jgarber (Also: hello, everyone! Been following along from afar this year and looks like there's some great work being done.)
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mrflix I said i’m adding prefixes :D
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bnvk Any of you Known users online at the moment? Had a question
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tantek jgarber - what native UI/
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tantek ?
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tantek mrflix - awesome
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jgarber @tantek Sorry, should've clarified. "IndieWebBrowser" could be a native app on iOS, Android, etc. It could look at a website and based on some markup conventions, determine a user's preferred communication channels (as you've been outlining in your posts).
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Loqi [mention] https://brennannovak.com/notes/483 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com (webmention)
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mrflix @the lovely person who previewed the contact’s demo on his ipod: please refresh
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@brennannovak @lowfill awesome job getting your #IndieWeb site setup. This is the first cross site conversation from... http://bnvk.me/1Uz (twitter.com/_/status/483277832471052288)
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kylewm jgarber: snarfed demoed a browser plugin like that at indiewebcamp sf ... having trouble finding it atm
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kylewm just a little yellow box in the corner of the page with contact icons based on their hcard
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@caseorganic @thomaslevine Darn! I didn't know there would be an #indiewebcamp in Berlin until yesterday! Should have tweeted it! It's still going today! (twitter.com/_/status/483278612519346176)
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jgarber @kylewm Oh, cool. I'd like to see that if you can find it. I don't know much about native app development so I'm not sure if the idea of an indieweb-focused browser is even an idea worthy of pursuit.
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Loqi [mention] https://brennannovak.com/notes/486 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com (webmention)
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@psyhigh Psychic Entrepreneurs Club at Terry’s Business Pavilion. Demo(n) your creations till 5:30 pm today! #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483279477175484416)
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kylewm jgarber: totally! or at least extensions another feature it could have
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kylewm would be notifying you if the current site accepts webmebtions or pingbacks
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GWG is working on code cleanup/commenting functions
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tantek jgarber - hopefully we can figure out how to code the markup+css+js to "just work" in existing mobile browser
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jgarber @kylewm Yeah, there are a ton of possibilities given the markup structures around mentions, replies, and other microformatted data.
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jgarber @tantek Yeah, I thought that's what you were going for. UI consistency across platforms (iOS v. Android v. Firefox OS) seems like an ever-shifting target, though.
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jgarber But I can see the benefit of keeping the features in markup/CSS/JS.
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tantek kylewm - re: /2014/Design_Elements - photos or screenshots would help a lot there - hard to follow what the notes are talking about!
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tantek jgarber - not UI consistency across platforms, but rather *within* platforms
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tantek so someone using an iOS device just sees familiar icons
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jgarber @tantek Right, right. Poor word choice on my part.
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tantek and then I'll probably do one for FirefoxOS
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mrflix optimized the CSS for mobile browsers, namespaces the css to not bleed into existing CSS: http://mrflix.github.io/indieweb-contact/
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tantek and then server that to Android users too - since Android users are used to somewhat inconsistent UI / icons in their experience
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bnvk tantek: can I get you to help with creating a github repo fork of https://github.com/bastianallgeier/indie-app-store and granting a few of us access?
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bnvk ^— or anything with create status on the IndieWeb org account
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tantek bnvk - per discussion with aaronpk - why should it be on the indieweb gh?
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tantek we talked about that a while ago
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bnvk I missed that convo
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bnvk because it relates to indieweb
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tantek so "relates to indieweb" is not good enough
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bnvk it be using MF, webmentions, and help people install Indieweb software
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tantek we cleaned out tons of stuff that was not maintained
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tantek old forks etc.
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tantek bar has been raised
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tantek to stuff which is ready for people to use
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tantek for the indieweb gh
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@eventifierapp @indiewebcamp Here's a quick social media summary of #indiewebcamp, have a look: http://eventifier.com/event/indiewebcamp14/popular?utm_content=buffer000f9&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer CC @jeremyzilar @mmmuks Ty. (twitter.com/_/status/483281019882438656)
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bnvk so the org is not for projects which are works in progress?
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tantek until then - just develop it on your on repo
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tantek bnvk - we tried that - in progress - and none of them worked out
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tantek so we decided "works in progress" is insufficient
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bnvk hrm, strange
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tantek we just ended up with a bunch of abandoned / dead projects
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tantek so those are all gone now
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tantek "in progress" = use your own repo
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tantek is it running live on your own site? on multiple sites - great let's put it in a shared space for others to try out
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bnvk well, thanks for the encouragement and assuming a new effort is already abandoned + dead ;)
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bnvk I didn't realize such decision had been made about the "official" GH account
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bnvk moving on
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tantek bnvk - there were like 2+ days of IRC conversation about it
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tantek pretty sure you were there
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bnvk nope
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tantek !tell aaronpk do you remember what day we had that discussion about pruning the projects on the indieweb gh?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bnvk I don't always read back in the logs every day, so you probably had the conversation- I might have been in the room, this is just news to me
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bnvk onto more productive things
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tantek bnvk - think of it from the perspective of people that come to the indieweb gh and expect to find stuff they can install and use
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tantek that's the bar we should meet there
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tantek ironically, just like a store would ;)
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tantek but yeah, we should write that up somewhere on the wiki - about the indieweb gh
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tantek hoping to track down the discussion in the IRC logs so we can make it easily discoverable on the wiki
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bnvk thats' funny to be using Github like that, it's very counter how I think of it
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tantek bnvk - it looks bad for communities to have a bunch of dead projects in it - which is what had happened to the indieweb org
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tantek it looks like the community is dead
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tantek so we pruned it back to stuff that was still in active use
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GWG Is that why you can't pull the battery anymore on most phones?
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tantek GWG - "cost savings"
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bnvk tantek: agreed- dead projects make communities look dead
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tantek the selfdogfood bar is not an unreasonable requirement
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GWG tantek: Rhetorical question
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bnvk yes, but expecting github to be a place to collaborate and share code in all states of development is not unreasonable IMHO
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GWG If I use this Genericon for comments, http://genericons.com/#comment which one looks good for mentions?
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tantek bnvk - github yes, but github orgs set a higher bar of expectation
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hawke.org sandro created /lj2006 (+475) "Created page with "The story is fairly clear from these three posts. Note how many comments there are. <a href="http://news.livejournal.com/2006/01/19/">Changes to User Subdomains</a> Krissy (lj..."" (view diff)
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GWG I'm going flag...
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GWG Amen, bear_
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@distributedone Tantek Celik, "Why We Need the IndieWeb", #PDF14 https://www.youtube.com/ #distributedNews (twitter.com/_/status/483285657406939136)
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GWG http://tiny.n9n.us/ - Separate counts in the entry metadata for mentions and comments...how does that look?
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tantek Berlin(bnvk) did we lose you?
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tantek mrflix - you guys still there? lost you from the talky.
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mrflix we're
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GWG I was limiting myself to the Genericons font set
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bnvk yah, signed off as I wanted to move my laptop and collaborate… we don't have a detached webcam
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GWG http://genericons.com/#flag
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GWG What would you have used?
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tantek bnvk - cool
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bnvk mrflix: you do this $ git clone --recursive
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rascul i'm a little unsure, does indiemark level 1 search require search on the site or just searchable content from ie google ?
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tantek rascul - just searchability
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rascul ahh ok, it appears i'm at level 1 then
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tantek rascul - could you help with pointing out what in the indiemark level 1 search description wasn't clear?
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rascul pretty sure it's my reading comprehension skills, not the description
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rascul reading it through again it seems pretty clear
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aaronpk pdx is getting ready for hack day kickoff!
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 33 minutes ago: do you remember what day we had that discussion about pruning the projects on the indieweb gh?
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tantek rascul - good /copy should work for skimming :)
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jancborchardt bnvk: https://w3c.github.io/manifest/
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rascul it's level 2 that requires search being on the site
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rascul eh no, reading fail again heh
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bear_ in micropub - is /api/post sacred?
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tantek yeah manifest! hey jancborchardt bnvk you guys know that's what's shipping in / for FirefoxOS phones and marketplace right?
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gRegor` I'd like to propose a new IWC logo: http://memegenerator.net/instance/51827718
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gRegor` In response to https://twitter.com/jlsuttles/status/483083109173190657
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@jlsuttles I coined selfkoolaid today at #indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/selfkoolaid (twitter.com/_/status/483083109173190657)
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rascul oh yeah!
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aaronpk pdx is at http://talky.io/riker starting in a minute
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GWG bear_: Can you bring me a sandwich?
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gRegor` Try sudo, GWG
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rascul indiewebify.me doesn't like zulu time http://indiewebify.me/validate-h-entry/?url=https%3A%2F%2Frascul.io%2Fnotes%2Fmiss-bass-season-for-indieweb
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@anomalily +1 points for coffee + 2 for french press and +10 points for homemade tofu scramble at #indiewebcamp #priorities (twitter.com/_/status/483293089855852544)
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bnvk tantek: do you have any idea why the FireFoxOS manifest.webapp like http://soundcloud.com/manifest.webapp differs from the one defined by the w3c https://w3c.github.io/manifest/ ?
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GWG tantek went to lunch
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bnvk GWG: ok, thanks
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@DASocialmedia In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp http://dragplus.com/notfound?&utm_source=site&utm_medium=web&utm_campaign=go&utm_term=notfound #socialmedia (twitter.com/_/status/483295865549754368)
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@jlsuttles Today I am building a Twitter API to Micropub API adapter at #indiewebcamp Mobile apps let you set the API root! https://twitter.com/jlsuttles/status/483296533744328705/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483296533744328705)
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jgarber @bnvk @tantek Re: app manifest on soundcloud.com -- Looks like they're following the MDN example here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build/Manifest with regards to defining icons. (Assuming that's the differences you reference.)
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jgarber https://w3c.github.io/manifest/#example-manifest vs. https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build/Manifest#Example_manifest
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bnvk jgarber: right, icons, but also other things
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kylewm woohoo, images rotated! https://kylewm.com/note/2014/06/29/2
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kylewm apparently EXIF doesn't rotate the image on the site itself (which makes sense)
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kylewm silos have made me lazy
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@jlsuttles Micropub is an API spec that is used to create h-entry or h-event posts on one's own domain using third-party clients http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub (twitter.com/_/status/483298127428874240)
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bnvk launch_path.html vs. start_url.html
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jgarber @bnvk Ah, right. Those are quite different.
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bnvk err launch_path: index.html
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bnvk friggin standards…
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@kyle_wm Some photos from #indiewebcamp day1, feat. @aaronpk, @wardcunningham, backs of @jlsuttles, @veganstraightedge heads https://kylewm.com/note/2014/06/29/2 (twitter.com/_/status/483298590408712192)
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jden good morning all you wonderful indiewebcampers. joining you in spirit from SF
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GWG Time for work...
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bear_ hi jden
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bear_ enjoy your work day GWG
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@whitelopezsm "@benwerd: In-depth conversations about privacy, trust and address books, across coasts. #indiewebcamp http://t.co/2muB4e3LNs" #privacy (twitter.com/_/status/483300403916722176)
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@wordyard @scottros testing webmention here (twitter.com/_/status/483300418332528640)
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GWG bear_: Will be lurkin g
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ericholscher Interesting microformats that we've come up with: h-apidoc, which would be a microformat for marking up API documentation -- and h-index, which is for marking up index pages
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tantek ericholscher why not just use h-entry to start with (especially for index pages) ?
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ericholscher tantek: good question :)
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ericholscher is a noob
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tantek re-use before inventing - it's less work that way :)
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aaronpk tantek: is there any documentation on when it makes sense to create a new h-* microformat? given that there are a lot documented here but only a few actually in use http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2#v2_vocabularies
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tantek whoa 112!
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tantek aaronpk - there is microformats.org/wiki/process
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tantek which does a lot of *discouraging* of creating new vocabularies, because 99% of people have the wrong instinct (create) to start with - and a lot of that has to be untaught / unlearned before actually understanding when to create something new
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tantek 115!
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@veganstraightedge RT @jlsuttles: Today I am building a Twitter API to Micropub API adapter at #indiewebcamp Mobile apps let you set the API root! http://t.co… (twitter.com/_/status/483305730280157185)
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peat aaronpk: where is the email code hiding. guide me, obi wan.
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aaronpk one sec!
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aaronpk putting it on github
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bret tantek: were looking at marking up http://docs.readthedocs.org/en/latest/api/index.html as an example
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tantek bret - what's the use case?
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tantek we used to spend lots of time marking up things in #microformats for the sake of marking them presuming we'd figure out what to do with the structured data later (hand wave search engines hand wave)
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bret Allowing an IDE or text editor to query documentation on a specific item in the docs
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tantek and it turned out that was nearly always a waste of time
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tantek unless you were building the consuming application yourself as well
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tantek bret - full text search / indexing is "good enough" for that use case
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bnvk tantek: we're errring towards the w3c standard for app manifests as opposed to the FireFox OS standard- good call?
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tantek bnvk - you sure you're pointing to the latest w3c standard?
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tantek because Mozilla folks have been editing that at W3C, and that's what Firefox OS follows
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tantek just be sure you're not referencing some *old* W3C spec
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bnvk yes
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tantek which happens A LOT
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bnvk latest w3c, it hink
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tantek referencing a W3C spec that no one implements is a huge mistake
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bnvk https://w3c.github.io/manifest/
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binbasti bnvk tantek i think you're misinformed
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bnvk ?
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tantek binbasti: feel free to offer specific corrections!
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binbasti i'm in webapps. the w3c spec is currently being implemented in order to replace the ffos one
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binbasti it was started at mozilla
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bnvk cool!
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binbasti and edited by a mozillian
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tantek isn't that what I said?
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tantek "Mozilla folks have been editing that at W3C, and that's what Firefox OS follows"
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bnvk sounds like the opposite
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aaronpk peat: https://github.com/indieweb/this-week
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binbasti oh you meant it will follow it
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binbasti sry
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aaronpk run test.php and you should see some html in your browser
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bnvk peat: o'hey der!
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binbasti also, didn't read all of the conversation :)
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tantek binbasti: np - sounds like we're on a similar understanding :)
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jancborchardt yeah, so we can and should use the W3C one
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tantek looks like that's where Marcos (Mozilla guy) has been doing the editing so that looks legit
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binbasti it's just that " a W3C spec that no one implements" is just missing a "yet" in between
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tantek what's the diff?
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tantek with the FirefoxOS marketplace spec?
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bnvk tantek: so this link https://w3c.github.io/manifest/ is the current W3C that FFOS is following?
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binbasti no
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tantek I thought the W3C spec was based on the Firefox OS work
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binbasti it's not
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jancborchardt well – FF OS definitely does not implement that as of now. But it sounds like it will in the future, right?
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bnvk tantek: here is the FF one https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build/Manifest#Example_manifest
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binbasti tantek: yes
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binbasti "based on", not "following"
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tantek https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build/Manifest
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binbasti jancborchardt: yes, it will most likely
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bnvk key diffs are the icon structuring and the "launch_path": "/index.html" vs. "start_url": "/start.html"
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kylewm ericholscher: https://kylewm.com/api/mf2?url=...
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kylewm ericholscher: there's also https://kartikprabhu.com/connection/mfparser
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binbasti if you're interested you can follow almost all development and discussion via github issues and pull requests
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tantek I'd expect FFOS to follow the spec that Mozillians are helping edit yes :)
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binbasti and provide input as well
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binbasti https://github.com/w3c/manifest
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tantek bnvk - yeah I was just comparing their JSONs
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tantek noticed that too
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tantek binbasti - thanks for the clarification
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binbasti sure, np
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tantek looks like the devmo docs are for *shipping* FirefoxOS versions https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build/Manifest - and I'd expect that new(er) FirefoxOS versions would support the updated manifest fields.
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tantek so at some point https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Apps/Build/Manifest should be updated, and may mention the old fields in a backward compat section (I hope)
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bnvk OK, so the w3c one is the best?!
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tantek bnvk - depends on what you mean by "best" ;)
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tantek what are your values/principles for evaluating?
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tantek ;)
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bnvk well- needing to be updated to be current at the longest date from now
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binbasti what's the use case? sorry, missed that part
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bnvk binbasti: http://indiewebcamp.com/store
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tantek binbasti: great question :)
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binbasti the good thing is the new spec will be extensible by specification
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bnvk tantek: can't tell if that was trolling snark or not ;)
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binbasti oh ok
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tantek bnvk - just applauding binbasti for their methodology :)
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binbasti well, that's the idea we started with when we founded 5apps
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binbasti so you'll need all possible manifests, if you actually want to install these apps
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binbasti as longs as they're different
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binbasti and just for the store itself i'd probably use an extended w3c manifest. but if you need extensions already, you should give that as input to the editors, because it might end up in the core spec
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binbasti i mean as a developer you want as many manifests as possible
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tantek ^^^^ what binbasti said
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tantek rather than extend w3c manifest, please give input to it instead
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bnvk binbasti: gotcha- I wish Garret could make it out today. Yah we're going with an extended w3c manifest
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bnvk tantek: give input?
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binbasti yes, on https://github.com/w3c/manifest/issues
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tantek bnvk - yes give input on https://w3c.github.io/manifest/
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binbasti they're trying to define "one manifest to rule them all" basically, so if you have a valid use case that's not yet discussed, they need to know about it
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tantek bnvk: it says in the spec how to give input: " If you wish to make comments regarding this document, please send them to public-webapps@w3.org (subscribe, archives). "
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bnvk tantek: oh yah, definitely- I was using extend + give input similarly
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bnvk yah once we've explored our problem space enough and have something work I'll do that
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tantek bnvk - "extend" sounds like "make up your own fields and add them"
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bnvk well- yah, that's I mean for this very moment
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tantek whereas input is more like, hey we have this use-case (citation with URL describing), and for that we don't see any existing feature in the w3c manifest, so we're going to add a new property, e.g. sampleNewPropertyname
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tantek at least send that as an email as requested by the document/group
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tantek before extending it
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binbasti github is actually just as good for this one. if it's a thing, marcos will put it on the list at some point
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tantek I would consider public documentation of the use-case(s) you need your extension(s) for a pre-requisite
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tantek binbasti - if github is just as good for that, perhaps let marcos know to update the spec to say so next to the email list?
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binbasti good point
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binbasti i'll ask about it
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tantek is also annoyed with W3C spec templates that burry the "how to give input / feedback" info
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tantek s/burry/bury
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Loqi tantek meant to say: is also annoyed with W3C spec templates that bury the "how to give input / feedback" info
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tantek "Status of This Document" is not where I'd look for "Where to give feedback"
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tantek (i.e. why it wasn't immediately apparent to bnvk *how* to give input - just from viewing the spec)
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tantek (bnvk, to be clear, I am saying that is not your fault)
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tantek binbasti - if marcos feels free to do so, I'd even make a separate subhead section inside status for "How to give feedback" for the email / github issues links
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tantek that stuff needs to be more discoverable
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binbasti actually http://w3c.github.io/manifest/ has it directly in the head
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binbasti as opposed to http://www.w3.org/TR/appmanifest/
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binbasti which shows a red warning to check out the github version though
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tantek binbasti - "Repository" as a heading is not immediately apparent to folks
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binbasti i agree
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bnvk lol, i'm not too worried about it as this moment
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binbasti :)
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bnvk I'm just trying to sprint to get something done by end of day, then submit input, get feedback, update my specs and manifests as a separate task :)
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tantek binbasti - for another example see: http://www.w3.org/TR/css-masking-1/
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tantek right there in the header it says "Feedback:
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binbasti nice
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tantek so that's clearly within the realm of possibility for publishing on w3c specs - hopefully that can be re-used with the manifest spec
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tantek note that I am not saying anything preferential of email vs github issue etc. Let the editor(s) choose how they prefer to receive feedback.
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binbasti got it, thanks. will probably just do a pr instead of asking
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tantek great!
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bnvk jancborchardt: https://raw.githubusercontent.com/pagekite/Mailpile/master/indie.json
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gRegor` Pointing a subdomain to another host is just a DNS A record, correct?
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ericholscher or a CNAME, depending if you want it to point to an IP or domain name
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gRegor` Yeah, I'm pointing to an IP for the subdomain on dreamhost. Probably just hasn't propagated yet. Flushed my DNS cache
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gRegor` LA is showing it updated, so I thought PDX would have it too
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@anomalily Stripping CSS is pretty fun. It’s like paintstripping but less toxic. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483321092669702144)
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tantek aaronpk - where did you put the photos from yesterday?
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tantek as in embed
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aaronpk main photo is on my site, haven't uploaded to the wiki yet
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aaronpk http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/06/28/1/indiewebcamp-esripdx
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek aaronpk - a-ha! NYC has uploaded to the wiki!
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aaronpk getting there slowly...
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tantek discussed in NYC - useful for testing indieweb sites (beyond mobile) https://twitter.com/t/status/483319122831212544
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@t Want: a #Predator-like browser extension to hotkey toggle #a11y vision modes. Sound optional: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtGjz1AyUGc&feature=youtu.be&t=34s (ttk.me t4Wq1) (twitter.com/_/status/483319122831212544)
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tantek aaronpk oh cool! you fixed the Loqi youtube URL bug!
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aaronpk heh I didn't do anything
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aaronpk loqi must have fixed it himself
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Loqi :)
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tantek or maybe it works for youtube urls with and explicit start time
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tantek a/and/an
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tantek s/and/an
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Loqi tantek meant to say: a/an/an
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tantek oh well
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tantek I wonder if Berlin took a photo yet
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@brennannovak Hey #IndieWeb does a person publish from a website, homepage, or domain? http://bnvk.me/Srk (twitter.com/_/status/483324396681953282)
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tantek bnvk - yes :)
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bnvk ?
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tantek bnvk - your question evaluated to "true" ;)
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tantek btw we're still live on talky.io/iwc-nyc here in NYC if anyone wants to join/lurk on our hacking session room
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tantek mrflix - go ahead and add yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people !
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tantek greetings from NYC on talky!
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bear_ make sure your using chrome and not firefox berlin folks
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mrflix we can hear you guys
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GWG tantek: I'll lurk textually
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mrflix did you guys mute talky?
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@brennannovak @oscargodson each word pretty much means the same thing. Trying to get a consensus from #IndieWeb for branding / UX is more unified! (twitter.com/_/status/483327508352614400)
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@brennannovak @oscargodson also, when are you going to join the #IndieWeb and publish from your own site? We need JS wizards like you :) (twitter.com/_/status/483327639776923648)
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mrflix talky is running in chrome. mic preferences are fine. I have no clue why you guys can’t hear us
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@psyhigh Mobile Identity Splitting in the Psychosphere: Three new add-ons for the Id. Emma and Chloe 2pm at Terry’s Business Pavilion. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483328805965029376)
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@brianjesse RT @brennannovak: @oscargodson also, when are you going to join the #IndieWeb and publish from your own site? We need JS wizards like you :) (twitter.com/_/status/483329021195743232)
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@t Thanks @mrflix for figuring out CSS for an #indieweb People Focused Mobile Communication! Screenshot & source: http://tantek.com/2014/180/t2/css-indieweb-people-focused-communication (twitter.com/_/status/483332256790884357)
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emdeika hey. i'm quite new to this community, so would anyone mind if i put my fresh eyes on reworking the wiki so new people can actually find the info they are looking for?
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emdeika i mean, there is an edit history and i wouldn't mind if people reverted changes they don't agree with
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bear_ you should coordinate with I believe is rascul
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bear_ who is also doing wiki updates/edits
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tantek emdeika - there are many kinds of new people that show up to the wiki, and we've definitely gone through some iterations to try to fix some of that (though it can definitely be improved - thank you!)
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tantek it's less a matter of changes people don't agree with, and more working towards a deliberate design to cover many kinds of new people that show up
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tantek who typically have *very* different things they are looking for and sometimes can't easily find
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@brennannovak @oscargodson wat? Hehe. All the code projects are on github https://github.com/indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/483334259516928000)
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tantek bnvk - or rather on http://indiewebcamp.com/projects :)
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tantek (drat which I just remember I need to keep updating … )
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@BrendanEich RT @t: Thanks @mrflix for figuring out CSS for an #indieweb People Focused Mobile Communication! Screenshot & source: http://tantek.com/2014/180/t2/css-indieweb-people-focused-communication (twitter.com/_/status/483335000478449664)
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rascul emdeika bear_ i do updates and edits as i come across pages that look like they need them, i don't (usually) hunt them down
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Loqi gRegor`: rascul left you a message 52 minutes ago: https://www.whatsmydns.net/ to get an idea of dns propogation
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bnvk tantek: it was in ref to Oscar saying he needs Github to work on code
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tantek bnvk - interesting
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bnvk yah, strange that he didn't that aspect…
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bnvk I think this is along the lines of what emdeika is saying, I often get lost and confused with the Wiki- I've come to find memorizing /Page-name is the easiest way to find what I'm looking for
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@ShaneHudson @hunterwalk What I want is a Medium that lets you post externally and discover other places easily. See http://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/483335827876216833)
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rascul ahh ok
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@nicolas2fr #IndieWeb in 1 article, 2013 but still fresh http://www.wired.com/2013/08/indie-web/ (twitter.com/_/status/483336106524819456)
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@etravishartman RT @t: Thanks @mrflix for figuring out CSS for an #indieweb People Focused Mobile Communication! Screenshot & source: http://tantek.com/2014/180/t2/css-indieweb-people-focused-communication (twitter.com/_/status/483336781610233856)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/ShaneHudson/483335827876216833/485076559 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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bnvk that French guy @nicolas2fr who just tweeted the Wired link wants to help organize a Paris IWC
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aaronpk nice!
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tantek bnvk aaronpk - nice! hook him up with @nitot!
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tantek skinny - was the breakfast not worth keeping in the past section?
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bnvk ella: what's it written in?
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@lowfill @brennannovak @mrflix @jancborchardt Nice to work with you in he IndieWeb Store. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/483341829577117696)
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tantek_ NYC: Alex used the txt message link successfully to send a message - which showed up as an email (and green on Alex's phone). Apparently the first time you "txt" a new contact from iPhone, it sends as old school SMS or email instead of iMessage. When Tantek replied it showed up in Alex's Messages as a blue iMessage.
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tantek NYC: Alex clicked the Facetime icon which succesfully started a Facetime call ring with Tantek's iPod in about 10 seconds the first time. Subsequently it took only about 3 seconds to initiate the call.
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tantek NYC: Alex tapped the AIM icon which gave the Safari cannot load error (as expected for when you don't have the AIM app installed)
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Loqi [mention] https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014 (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (webmention)
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ngoldman aaronpk: added some install notes for the indieweb skin https://github.com/indieweb/wiki/pull/12
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tantek NYC: Alex tapped the Skype icon it launched the Skype app, and then put up an alert saying "Placing your call / tantekc / (Cancel) (Voice Call)"
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aaronpk aweome thanks!!
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tantek NYC: When Alex tapped the (Voice Call) button it placed a Skype audio call, which rang Tantek's iPod in 14 seconds.
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@brennannovak @nitot I was told by @t to connect with you so @nicolas2fr and I can organize an #IndieWeb camp in Paris... http://bnvk.me/Qho (twitter.com/_/status/483345066585374720)
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tantek bnvk++
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Loqi bnvk has 6 karma
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tantek NYC: (happened at 16:09 EDT) JeremyZilar taps on the txt message icon to send Tantek a txt message "Hi" from his iPhone
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tantek NYC: (just now) JeremyZilar clicked on the Facetime icon on his *laptop* to start a Facetime call - and Tantek's iPod rang accordingly.
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tantek NYC: JeremyZilar clicked on the AIM icon on his laptop which opened up the Messages app (which he has set as his default) with the text "greetings+program"
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tantek which when he pressed return it sent
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tantek did it again
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tantek for anyone on IRC - NYC is doing demos and on talky.io/iwc-nyc
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emdeika bye. i'll reappear the next days as "mdik".
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aaronpk emmak_: https://gist.github.com/aaronpk/01fd2d8cb20ab6663ab5
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Loqi emmak_: bret left you a message on 6/27 at 9:11pm: I can bring a wireless bridge and ethernet for you to use
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@jancborchardt Hacking overtime at #IndieWebCamp Berlin – working on the Indie App Store https://github.com/brennannovak/indie-app-store (twitter.com/_/status/483351170296315904)
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rascul also it feels like everybody there is staring at me even though i have no webcam!
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KartikPrabhu rascul: the phone thingie is tantek's mobile communication using website thingy
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rascul yeah i see it now, it's pretty nifty
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KartikPrabhu yeha pretty awesome
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tantek Berlin: mrfelix used tantek.com contact.html to call Tantek on Facetime and it worked!
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bnvk WIN
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tantek NYC: Jeremy is demonstrating keplr.me
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tantek NYC: his son's bday announcement site
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bnvk aww
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tantek NYC: his son sometimes asks him to txt mom
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tantek NYC: he likes to tweet too
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tantek … so instead of Twitter, how about a tweeting on his own site?
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tantek … Jeremy made a simple WordPress Theme called "IndieWeb"
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bnvk Berlin: made huge progress on App Store https://github.com/brennannovak/indie-app-store
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tantek mrflix++ for CSS for indieweb mobile communications!
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tantek NYC: Jeremy shows install of WP theme
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tantek NYC: Jeremy shows logged in view on keplr.me/blog
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mrflix thank you!!
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jlsuttles hi halorgium_
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tantek NYC: Jeremy shows blog home page
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jlsuttles hi halorgium
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tantek NYC: Jeremy blog upload an image as the home page requests
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halorgium jlsuttles: hi2u
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tantek NYC: next time you go back the image is there
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tantek NYC: once you set things up
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tantek NYC: you have a simple form immediately
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tantek NYC: headline, text, and a related link URL
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bnvk Berlin: signing off for dinner
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bnvk bbl
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tantek NYC: and then you hit post
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tantek NYC: and it shows up on the home page
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tantek NYC: wants to set it up to tweet from keplr.me to his twitter
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tantek NYC: and that's a starter IndieWeb theme for achieving IndieMark level 1
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: did you see what I said earlier about Quill
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: no, missed it
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jonnybarnes Quill won;t work on my MacBook, but it will on my iPhone
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aaronpk oh yeah weird
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jonnybarnes when I click post it just sends me to the new post page again
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aaronpk i think someone else mentioned that happening too
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jonnybarnes I imagine NoScript is messing with the Javascript someway
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jonnybarnes but quill defo works: https://jonnybarnes.net/notes/1a
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tantek noscript blocks scripts by default right
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jonnybarnes yes, but I've whitelisted the quill site tantek
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aaronpk yeah it submits via javascript
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jonnybarnes but it isnt a vanilla form
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jonnybarnes as aaronpk says it does the submitting with JS which I assume NoScript is interfering with to "protect" me
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aaronpk i don't really have any desire to make it work without javascript
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tantek NYC: KartikPrabhu is demoing!!!
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tantek NYC: marginalia post is LIVE!
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tantek NYC: KartikPrabhu is demoing it
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tantek NYC: if there is marginalia on a paragraph then there's black comment icon after the paragraph.
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tantek NYC: if you click it then it shows the marginalia in a sidebar for that paragraph
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tantek NYC: and the comment icon turns green so you know which commet is being shown
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tantek NYC: if you click another comment icon it hides the other comment and shows this one
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tantek NYC: if there are multiple comments in the sidebar, it does scroll
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tantek NYC: the javascript for this is on github
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tantek NYC: for small screens, the marginalia comments appear inline indented and immediately below the paragraph that it is about
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tantek NYC: the javascript puts the div in place and adds attributes. all the styling is done with responsive CSS.
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tantek NYC: the inline vs. sidebar showing of marginalia is all through responsive CSS and live based on the size of the screen!
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: I did something wrong... for some reason my browser isn't sending the cookie sometimes
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tantek NYC: the javascript is only finding all the comments by fragmention and toggling their display on or off
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: as in when you try to use Quill on your own site?
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tantek NYC: I also have footnotes but those are done by hand
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tantek NYC: footnotes could also be author marginalia
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: yeah
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tantek NYC: right now the footnotes are just HTML - no javascript
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tantek NYC: but I could hook it up using the same display way of doing fragmentions
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: well today I got my client (jonnybarnes.net/notes/new) sending photos properly
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jonnybarnes which I'm happy with
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tantek NYC: Chloe helped with the CSS
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aaronpk jonnybarnes: nice!
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tantek NYC: also I documented a photo of actual physical marginalia
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jonnybarnes aaronpk: saying that I tested it on my phone and the photo is the wrong orientation
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jonnybarnes but its late and I'll fix that issue tomorrow
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aaronpk yeah I've noticed that photo orientation has to be handled kind of manually
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aaronpk oh I know what I was doing wrong... I had a bookmark to an old user account of mine
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aaronpk that was silly
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tantek NYC: demo was of http://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia which is now live
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peat_ aaronpk: Captain my captain! Paging you to Riker to check out the new layout and talk about integration with the running wiki. :)
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aaronpk ooh
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aaronpk i can install plugins if that's what you're asking
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peat_ aaronpk: Well ... we have a new theme .. but ... we don't know what's next. Haha.
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tantek NYC: showed what marginalia post looked like on an iPod on the projector
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Loqi rofl
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tantek btw aaronpk - if you guys want to watch NYC demos: talky.io/iwc-nyc
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aaronpk peat: hmmmm i'm frantically trying to finish this up. how's it looking on your install of MW?
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peat SEXAY
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tantek NYC: Sandro getting setup to demo
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tantek NYC: Sandro wrote a webmention server in go
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aaronpk we might have to call that good enough for the demo rather than try to actually launch it on indiewebcamp.com right now
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tantek NYC: if I do a fetch on mentions it shows nothing
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tantek NYC: if I do a post of a webmention via curl on the command line
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tantek NYC: it took a moment because it is verifying it synchronously
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tantek NYC: now we can check the mentions - and it shows 1 mention recorded, source URL mentions target URL : true
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@kartik_prabhu demo-ed #marginalia #annotations on the #indieweb @indiewebcamp in NYC: https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia Thanks to @t and @chloeweil (twitter.com/_/status/483362431746322435)
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tantek NYC: now can try a curl with a bad URL
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tantek NYC: and show that it tries to validate the URL and says false
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tantek NYC: still records it in the log as a failed webmention
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tantek NYC: you may want that or may want to drop them on the floor
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tantek NYC: demonstrates a webmention across two other domains
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tantek NYC: validates and shows true
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tantek NYC: we now have an implementation of webmention in go
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tantek NYC: I started learning go a week a go
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tantek NYC: I need to add it to github
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tantek NYC: Demo: chloeweil
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tantek NYC: Chloe I'm trying to POSSE music metadata
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tantek NYC: first by exporting it from iTunes
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@psyhigh Hacking the Metaphysical Eligibility Engine - An Omnidirectional Discussion Taylor at Terry’s Business Pavilion at 4pm #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483363532323708928)
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tantek NYC: and keeping it in my own storage
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tantek (aside WTF are the psyhigh announcements about? anyone know their relation to indieweb?)
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tantek NYC: Chloe I have all the metadata then on my local server
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KartikPrabhu tantek: one of the psyhigh founders is at the West i think
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tantek NYC: and I have a drag & drop area where I can add MP3 files and it will read the ID3 tags
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tantek NYC: but what's most important to me are the tags I add
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tantek NYC: e.g. like <1999, 2013SPR
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tantek NYC: seasons etc. for when a song was important to me in my life
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tantek NYC: I don't want anything locked into iTunes forever
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tantek NYC: I want to maintain this data that I've added to for 15+ years
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tantek NYC: on my own site etc.
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tantek NYC: I used bootstrap for this site but I don't really like it.
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tantek NYC: Audio metainformation POSSE
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tantek chloeweil: could you document how to export your iTunes data on this page? http://indiewebcamp.com/iTunes
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tantek NYC: Demo: Happy showing his website that he created during IndieWebCamp!
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tantek NYC: Happy: here is a browser window
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tantek NYC: if you go to happynchill.in it has an h-card
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tantek NYC: and then I worked on social-aggregator.happynchill.in
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tantek NYC: this is the foundation of the project I'm going to be working on
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tantek NYC: right now this does nothing but is a shell application that you can use for crosscloud applications
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tantek NYC: and I can log into the wiki
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tantek NYC: with happynchill.in
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tantek NYC: IndieAuth options: email Personal, twitter, github, google
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tantek NYC: uses Persona to sign in
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tantek NYC: goes to indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge
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tantek NYC: goes to Guest_List
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tantek NYC: edit
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tantek NYC: copy and paste Attendee template
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KartikPrabhu NYC: Happy Enchill gets a rapid wiki editing class
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tantek NYC: adds himself to RSVP!
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tantek NYC: And with that Happy has graduated from Apprentice to IndieWeb Creator!
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tantek NYC: Demo: Alex Noakes
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KartikPrabhu NYC: Happy gets a IWC sticker
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tantek NYC: Alex shows he's already logged into the wiki
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tantek NYC: edits the Cambridge RSVP page
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tantek NYC: moves his RSVP to the right spot
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tantek NYC: saves page
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tantek NYC: shows noakes.in
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tantek NYC: created with the hCard creator
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tantek NYC: and got Node running on his server as well
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tantek NYC: and with that Alex has graduated from Apprentice to IndieWeb Creator!
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tantek NYC: Alex gets an IndieWebCamp sticker
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tantek NYC: and with that we are done with demos!
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: why did bridgy not pick up this tweet response (fav) https://twitter.com/kartik_prabhu/status/483362431746322435 for either https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia or https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/marginalia-demo
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@kartik_prabhu demo-ed #marginalia #annotations on the #indieweb @indiewebcamp in NYC: https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia Thanks to @t and @chloeweil (twitter.com/_/status/483362431746322435)
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KartikPrabhu !tell snarfed, kylewm: snarfed: why did bridgy not pick up this tweet response (fav) https://twitter.com/kartik_prabhu/status/483362431746322435 for either https://kartikprabhu.com/article/marginalia or https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/marginalia-demo ?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell aaronpk, caseorganic heads-up re: Cambridge, now that we're filling up, Sandro (who works at MIT) has volunteered that he can reserve a room for 40 people - 40 chairs and 9 tables at MIT for the curation of the Cambridge IndieWebCamp.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegor` Say you have an h-card on the same page as a h-entry, but it's not within the h-entry. What's the best way to indicate that h-card is the author?
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KartikPrabhu author of?
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aaronpk question: what would you expect the micropub request to create a bookmark to look like?
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message 6 minutes ago: heads-up re: Cambridge, now that we're filling up, Sandro (who works at MIT) has volunteered that he can reserve a room for 40 people - 40 chairs and 9 tables at MIT for the curation of the Cambridge IndieWebCamp.
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KartikPrabhu gregor`: see https://indiewebcamp.com/authorship
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: just a url field
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aaronpk h=entry url=xxx?
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gRegor` I have. Doesn't seem to cover this scenario, KartikPrabhu
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gRegor` Or it's not clear to me. Should have I have a rel-author link to the same page?
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: oh hmmm h=entry bookmark-of=xxx maybe?
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aaronpk that makes sense
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KartikPrabhu gregor`: hmmm will look into it
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gRegor` Let me try that and see what indiewebify thinks of it
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KartikPrabhu alrighty... loggin off good indiewebcamp!
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aaronpk emmak_: http://aaron.pk/bookmarks/
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tantek gRegor`: if the author information is outside the h-entry, you have to use rel=author on the permalink page to point to the author's canonical home page
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gRegor` tantek: Would a rel-author="" (implying same page) work?
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tantek gRegor`: ouch that is an ugly hack!
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gRegor` That's what I have for now. Demos are coming up soon, so I will probably leave that for now. Just curious in general
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gRegor` Hm
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tantek Portland, what's your Talky?
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gRegor` picard is the main room
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aaronpk http://talky.io/picard
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aaronpk PSA: at 4:00 we're going to start with a group photo!
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aaronpk tantek: pdx starting demos!
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aaronpk http://talky.io/picard
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tantek hey portland - can you turn your camera to face the demos
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tantek rather than the attendeeds? ;)
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aaronpk haha yeah good call
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tantek thank you!
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tantek hey skinny!
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tantek woohoo new wiki look!
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tantek OMS NO TABLES?!?
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tantek (did I hear that right?0
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rascul hearing is hard
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tantek wait is that a sidebar with tweets from @indiewebcamp on the right?
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rascul top of sidebar at least is events
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tantek chloeweil++ for starting the iTunes page!
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Loqi chloeweil has 3 karma
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rascul much better!
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bret https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-demos
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tantek thank you for the better mic!
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tantek I took notes on NYC demos here in IRC
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bret weee!
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bret if you need clarification feel free to aks!
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peat No tables, responsive layout, and the event feed is harvested from the events page -- updates automatically. :)
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peat Sadly, this version does not support IE 5.
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tantek peat WOW!
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aaronpk (video still ok?)
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cryst____ tantek: i'm using a diff nick now. :D
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tantek whoa
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tantek crystal that's a lot of underscores
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tantek video is good
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tantek sound is so much better
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crystal_ tantek: new name, same great CSS prettyness
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rascul who's up now? i missed the last few minutes
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crystal_ ward cunningham
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tantek rascul: that's ward cunningham
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tantek c2.com
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rascul ok
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crystal_ tantek: we got a new favicon too
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tantek crystal_: sweet - is there place to play with the new wiki markup+style?
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tantek and is it responsive for mobile?
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peat http://github.com/peat/wiki is the fork we're working from.
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crystal_ tantek: not yet. aaronpk and peat will need to work on getting it up somewhere that we can test with content. Yes, it's responsive.
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tantek !!!
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peat I think we could merge to the official repo, spend a few hours hacking and testing one of these evenings to wrap it up ... or roll back to the current design as needed. Happy to volunteer an evening or two this coming week to help out.
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tantek mind blown.
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benwerd that wins best demo, sorry everyone
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rascul indeed
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peat Yup.
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tantek someone please give him a sticker and congratulate him
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peat Gotta step up the game with my kids. Haha.
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rascul indieweb has no age barrier :)
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tantek rascul up or down
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aaronpk tantek: her*
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rascul indeed
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tantek apologizes
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tantek *her*
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tantek good use-cases for keeping a cache of people, URLs, twitters!
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tantek did shaners just throw shade on Dr. Ben Werdmuller?
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benwerd flounce
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crystal_ Mr. Dr. Werdmuller
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rascul what's the joke?
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aaronpk benwerd: can you skew the laptop slightly more towards shane?
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tantek hey it's dr. benwerd!
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tantek can you reply to something you're reading?
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tantek i.e. are there web actions buttons on the items?
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@HappyNCHILL Omw back to boston but it's been real nyc. Learned a lot. Looking forward to building my own website. 'happynchill.in' #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483394669079175168)
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bret tantek: we are about to find out I think
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bret not sure if they are web actions
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tantek four of us left here in NYC btw watching. jeremyzilar, chloeweil, kartikprabhu, tantek
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bnvk1 is there a PDX vid feed?
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tantek bnvk talky.io/picard
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bret :( not quite working
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bret I think the reader acts a micropub client
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bret and is the posting interface
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tantek bret - whoa - so it can write posts for you!!!
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bret yeee!
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tantek so its a readerwriter client
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bret s
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bret "It actualy does make a post"
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tantek does it support PuSH for showing items in realtime when they're posted?
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crystal_ bnvk1: you missed my demo? ;)
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tantek can you see previous comments on an item? (so you don't repeat something)
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peat I wonder if readwriteweb would give up the .org ... haha.
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bret tantek: not yet I dont thnik
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bnvk1 lol, just Picard & Riker
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tantek bnvk1: how is it still light outside in Berlin?!?
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benwerd tantek: no previous comments yet, no PuSH yet, but both are simple additions
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@i_tsukanov RT @aaronpk: Great turnout for #IndieWebCamp 2014 in Portland! https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/483030674480185345/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/483395828397002752)
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benwerd (this was a 4 hour job ;)
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tantek benwerd - it was amazing!
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tantek just don't tell winer you've just replaced opml
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benwerd totally didn't mention that it's agnostic to RSS and h-feeds - so if you have people with legacy feeds, it'll work with them
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bnvk1 who is the fellow in PDX speaking now?
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tantek did he say "twisted protocol"? what is that?
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bnvk1 it's a python event lib
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tantek (I'm lost about what is asking / answering what)
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bret i think its too small to read
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bret (interp of the issue)
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@jlsuttles So I had big plans today but @halorgium and I discovered its hard to implement things that aren't documented and auth is hard #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/483397238492635136)
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aaronpk sounds like the end goal is to make a distributed dns database
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bret https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indieweb-demos
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bret 2014, still 4-5 different display cables/adapters
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tantek bret - I brought 4-5 just myself ;)
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GWG tantek: Displayport, DVI, HDMI, VGA?
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bret yup!
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bret and thunderbolt
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benwerd has now fixed the bug that caused emma's feeds to not display. Annoyed I didn't catch that. Sorry, emma.
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tantek bret, GWG: USB Ethernet, HDMI to thunderbolt, VGA to mini display port, DVI to mini display port, VGA to lightning connector (for iPod 5 / iPhone 5)
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bret tantek: lay all those out neatly and take a photo :)
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