#indiewebcamp 2014-10-12

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erlehmann shaners i think you would have to kick people out if you wanted different behaviour
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@ckswarriorqueen RT @anomalily: In my ideal world, very soon the code divas of @BlackGirlsCode will be AT #indiewebcamp building a more open web. <3 #DayOfT… (twitter.com/_/status/521088619759800320)
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erlehmann identity politics detected
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shaners erlehmann please keep this channel to discussion on topic about indieweb stuffs
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@jimgroom @aaronpk @timmmmyboy Out of curiosity, what would define an app as an #Indieweb app? (twitter.com/_/status/521091217510379520)
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erlehmann > app
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erlehmann > web
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erlehmann :D
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shaners willowbl00 !
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shaners stoked to see you getting involved with indieweb land. :D
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willowbl00 ohai - which Shaners are you?
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shaners what is shaners?
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Loqi Shane Becker is a co-founder of Hypernova which is making Homesteading http://indiewebcamp.com/Shaners
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shaners @veganstraightedge and @farmhouse ;)
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obra aaronpk_: is there a way to use pgp indieauth without hosting on keybase?
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aaronpk_ obra: yeah you just need to link to your key
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aaronpk_ i just happened to already have mine on keybase so i linked to that
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obra I'd tried that...oh. SSL misconfig on the place I have hosted my key.
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aaronpk_ aha
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obra it'd be awesome if indieauth bitched more loudly about that
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obra but yay. now I'm getting challenges
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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@aaronpk @jimgroom @timmmmyboy an #indieweb app is one you can use to create content on your own website (http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/10/11/8/indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/521118315985399808)
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aaronpk_ obra: did it not say there was an ssl error?
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aaronpk_ I tried to catch those explicitly
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obra it didn't.
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obra let me go rebreak it
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obra fsck.com/~jesse/pubkey.asc
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obra This is not a supported authentication provider.
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obra for <link href="https://fsck.com/~jesse/pubkey.asc" rel="pgpkey">
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aaronpk_ aw yeah. ssl error
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obra (fixing it to https://s.ly and everything is happy)
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GWG Evening.
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GWG I have returned.
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GWG snarfed: You about?
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snarfed hey GWG
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GWG snarfed: What's going on?
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snarfed GWG: not much. you?
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snarfed GWG: did you have a q for me?
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GWG In a way.
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GWG I've been thinking about you in trying to solve a problem.
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GWG You are a WordPress user, but have traditionally adopted a minimalist approach
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snarfed sure
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GWG So, when do you cross out of minimalism in extending functionality?
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snarfed that's pretty abstract. do you have an example in mind?
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GWG I'm working on refining some of the plugins I've been working on.
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GWG Which means adding complexity.
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snarfed got it
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GWG I'm trying to figure out how to keep things simple while refining them.
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GWG And adding more to them.
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snarfed eh. don't overthink it. keep scratching your own itches until you run out of them
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GWG The other reason I thought of you was because this is the plugin that makes Bridgy work.
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snarfed ah!
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snarfed it adds u-syndication links?
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GWG snarfed: Exactly.
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GWG I'm rewriting it to allow one to remove links to sites they don't use.
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mnot waves
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mnot Q: What's the current status of indie microblogging -- esp. protocols, not necessarily implementations?
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@Nikolas_DCM RT @caseorganic: The Internet of someone else's things. http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/11/the-internet-of-someone-elses-things/ #iot #indieweb (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/10/11/8/iot-indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/521207801738428416)
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@wendyinfutures RT @caseorganic: The Internet of someone else's things. http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/11/the-internet-of-someone-elses-things/ #iot #indieweb (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/10/11/8/iot-indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/521211562225594369)
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Loqi [mention] http://www.versvs.net/bocados-actualidad-183/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/webmention (pingback)
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@yatil @RobLen IndieWeb-Prinzipien! https://indiewebcamp.com/Principles :-) (twitter.com/_/status/521234082572013568)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/yatil/521234082572013568/521234714628464640 linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Principles (webmention)
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@user_media indieweb: http://www.youtube.com/ via @YouTube (twitter.com/_/status/521247782628122624)
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@user_media RT @aaronpk: We'll be livestreaming all the #indiewebcamp sessions in the main room today! http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Live (twitter.com/_/status/521248414286491649)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/aaronpk/520973764750626816/521248414286491649 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Live (webmention)
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ben_thatmust wow, so I'm super pissed
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ben_thatmust mbta commuter rail doesn't run until almost noon on sundays
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ben_thatmust guess I won't be there unti this afternoon today
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@djp1974 RT @caseorganic: The Internet of someone else's things. http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/11/the-internet-of-someone-elses-things/ #iot #indieweb (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/10/11/8/iot-indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/521252210840055808)
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@Phil_Comtek RT @caseorganic: The Internet of someone else's things. http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/11/the-internet-of-someone-elses-things/ #iot #indieweb (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/10/11/8/iot-indieweb) (twitter.com/_/status/521253981415550976)
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rascul currrently 42F in Cambridge, projected high of 62F today and sunny http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=cambridge%2C+ma
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rascul ben_thatmust whoa that sucks
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ben_thatmust yeah.. i'm kinda debating if its worth it to go in
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ben_thatmust i probably will
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ben_thatmust i can still get like 5 hours of hack time in
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ben_thatmust i'm writing up my own attempt at a script for that video now
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rascul is it too bad of a drive for me to come by and pick you up from shrewsbury?
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ben_thatmust i'm in Attleboro, i think that would be quite a drive for you
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ben_thatmust i'm at the edge of RI
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rascul ahh yeah, that's about twice the driving for me
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rascul kinda wish jessie was going today too so i don't have to drive through city heh
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ben_thatmust i don't drive
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ben_thatmust though i have my learners permit
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ben_thatmust i have just never needed to
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rascul doesn't seem like a big deal in this area where there's public transportation available
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rascul ok leaving now for cambridge
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ben_thatmust i mean really? 11:20 is the first train leaving Providence. grrrrrrrrr
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ben_thatmust !tell tantek, caseorganic got a first pass at a script for Willow. This doesn't include any of the audio bits from yesterday, just all from memory. https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcampscript
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@invispide 2014/Cambridge/Live - IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Live (twitter.com/_/status/521280888974622721)
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ben_thatmust willowbl00, made a first pass at a script from the video and quote i could remember https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcampscript
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willowbl00 yay Shaners! Now I understand. Hello
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willowbl00 thanks, ben_thatmust!
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aaronpk_ good morning!
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IWC_Cambridge3 Good morning IndieWebCamp Cambridge day 2! Getting setup.
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ben_thatmust morning guys
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ben_thatmust i won't be in until lunch apparently
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aaronpk_ ben_thatmust: so sad!
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aaronparecki.com edited /2014/Cambridge/Live (+164) "add day 2 links" (view diff)
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@benwerd A half-marathon and other obstacles slowing our progress into #indiewebcamp this morning. But we'll get there! (twitter.com/_/status/521292695461834753)
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ben_thatmust so I'm going to start out today by making my site record all incoming referrer links and store one or two of them per host
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ben_thatmust an easy first step to vouch protocol
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aaronpk_ interesting
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aaronpk_ that's to help you on the sending side right?
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ben_thatmust yes
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ben_thatmust that way i can start building a list of possibly URLs to use for vouches
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aaronpk_ sweet
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ben_thatmust basically, test for incoming referrer, check if i already have 1 for that host (i'm thinking i may save an alt too) and then curl the page and make sure its not rel=nofollow
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aaronpk_ i'm working on the verifying side, so maybe by the end of the day you can send me a vouch I can verify!
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ben_thatmust cool
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benwerd Looking forward to working on a reader, and perhaps vouch support if I get time. When I finally get there.
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aaronpk_ was just reading http://kidsper.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/mark-zuckerbergs-livejournal-blog-post/
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aaronpk_ now back to work
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ben_thatmust hey tantek
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Loqi [mention] http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/10/12/1/vouch linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (webmention)
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caseorganic Morning!
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obra good morning!
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GWG Good morning, caseorganic
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Loqi caseorganic: ben_thatmust left you a message 1 hour, 20 minutes ago: got a first pass at a script for Willow. This doesn't include any of the audio bits from yesterday, just all from memory. https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcampscript
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caseorganic ben_thatmust: thank you! i'll send it to hr
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tantek good morning ben_thatmust!
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aaronpk_ starting the livestream now!
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Loqi tantek: ben_thatmust left you a message 1 hour, 21 minutes ago: got a first pass at a script for Willow. This doesn't include any of the audio bits from yesterday, just all from memory. https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcampscript
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tantek great!
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benwerd Latest wrapped-up Known, as folks were asking: http://assets.withknown.com/releases/known-0.6.4-rc1.zip cc erinjo caseorganic (same filename, new contents)
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tantek.com edited /2014/Cambridge (+44) "/* RSVP */ add stub Blog Posts and Photos sections to be filled in" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2014/Cambridge/Hack_Day_Intro (+1056) "copy from [[2014/UK/Hack_Day_Intro]]" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+8) "direct link to hack day intro" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2014/UK/Schedule (+15) "/* Sunday 2014-09-07 */ link text" (view diff)
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obra benwerd: http://fsck.com/~jesse/tmp/2014-10-12/9EBE02C6-C767-452E-A4C0-1FA4A0DC7F6E/style.site.css
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tantek.com edited /2014/Cambridge/Schedule (+27) "/* Sunday, October 12, 2014 (Hack Sessions) */ update with new intro, link to Cambridge demos" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg]]""
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IWC_Cambridge3 obra, add yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people !
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aaronpk_ shoot, grep takes like 3 seconds to complete. pretty sure that's not a reasonable amount of time for my "approval algorithm" to complete
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aaronpk_ but possibly good enough for a proof of concept
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@benwerd Hack idea: a quantified self site that hosts all your non-verbal noises from your day using a simple, beautiful interface. #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/521304588775747585)
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aaronpk_ aaronpk: working on verifying received vouches
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aaronpk_ obra: working on importing data into known
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aaronpk_ caseorganic: going to install Known on a shared server without using command line, pretending to be a person that knows nothing about websites
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aaronpk_ rascul: working on his sister's Known setup that he set up yesterday
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aaronpk_ benwerd: integrating a reader into Known
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GWG Everybody Loves Known.
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aaronpk_ tantek: trying to get reply/like/repost buttons working on his site for people who have a web+action handler registered to use that instead of twitter
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aaronpk_ tim: get IndieAuth working to sign in on his Known site. syndicating and pulling from wordpress to Known. bookmark plugin for Known.
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aaronpk_ erinjo: pull quantified self data from her watch and phone and see what she can publish
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aaronpk_ sandro: pull his old livejournal posts and republish on his site
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GWG I think I'm the only one watching.
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sandro starting with: git clone git@github.com:ghewgill/ljdump.git ... runs well, reports "534 new entries, 2015 new comments", now to parse XML in golang and make the public posts available as json at sandro.hawke.org
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ben_thatmust i am going to set up a withknown site for my wife to keep all her stuff for teaching children on
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ben_thatmust projects and stuff... not today i think though
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sandro used "python convertdump.py --user sandhawke --limit 10000" (from that repo) to create one big xml file that has all my LJ data in WordPress's format. Probably better to write my code to read that.
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s.ly edited /LiveJournal (+207) (view diff)
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GWG sandro: If you want a bit of free advice about importing old content...
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GWG sandro: Don't pull it into a system set to autopost to silos on new content
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tantek GWG, but the content isn't "new", it's archives ;)
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GWG tantek: I'm well aware....But even though the date was a decade old, the system saw it as a 'new post'. I'm trying to warn people to avoid my stupid mistakes.
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GWG Also, by the way, hi, tantek.
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tantek hello GWG!
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obra benwerd: http://fsck.com/~jesse/tmp/2014-10-12/3F1B8E2F-BB03-44E9-BF9D-3189723A90C2/knownerror.txt wut?
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GWG Wish I could be there. But at least I can have it up on my screen.
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GWG Who is who around the table there?
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obra benwerd: more context http://fsck.com/~jesse/tmp/2014-10-12/DEC6522F-92F0-4C53-9077-979174F3EFAB/knownerror.txt
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JohnDuh Hello! Can anybody recommend a (cheap?) VPS provider in Europe?
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GWG JohnDuh: Try lowendbox.com. They have some decent offers from various sites
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kylewm JohnDuh: I've been very happy with DigitalOcean.
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obra benwerd: [Sun Oct 12 07:57:48 2014] [error] [client 173.230.155.197] PHP Catchable fatal
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obra error: Argument 1 passed to Idno\\Entities\\ActivityStreamPost::setActor() must be an instance of Idno\\Common\\Entity, boolean given, called in /home/jesse/bl
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obra og/idno/Idno/Common/Entity.php on line 348 and defined in /home/jesse/blog/idno/
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JohnDuh GWG & kylewm: Thank you!
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GWG kylewm: How is your site going? Participating in Hack Day?
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kylewm GWG: no sadly, but i'm going to watch the demos... site's going ok, i'm not really sure what to work on next
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kylewm GWG: I'm looking for an excuse to learn node currently :P
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snarfed kylewm++ for implementing the bridgy-known api btw
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Loqi kylewm has 65 karma
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snarfed can't wait to see it hooked up and try it
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kylewm \o/
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kylewm thanks :) and me too!
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snarfed (kylewm: btw, selfishly, if you're looking for something to do? maybe https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/296 )
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kylewm snarfed: i'm using instagram-atom.appspot.com btw
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GWG kylewm: I'm working on refining what I have, which may mean learning a few things I don't know.
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snarfed not node, but at least it's small
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snarfed kylewm: nice!
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kylewm snarfed: sigh yeah i started on that, got a little stymied by the testdata
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GWG I'm also trying to figure out metrics....or aka do I want to know how many mimosas aaronpk is drinking? I was watching his metrics feed and wondering about whether I wanted to do that.
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snarfed i felt a bit silly putting up ig-atom, since you could already get the same feed from http://instagram-activitystreams.appspot.com/, but that's not very end user friendly
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snarfed kylewm: heh, understood. definitely not high priority
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snarfed GWG: heh yes, aaronpk is pretty extreme on the quantified self thing
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kylewm snarfed: no way, not silly at all. much different from a user perspective
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snarfed (i'm…not. :P http://snarfed.org/2013-09-24_the-unquantified-self )
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GWG snarfed: I'm eagerly waiting for some demo of how he has a micropub client in his Pebble.
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snarfed kylewm: heh thanks
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GWG snarfed: But, I just keep wondering what I do want to quantify.
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snarfed kylewm++
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GWG I put Location on the list as a possible itch, but mostly because I have hopes of someday putting together a photomap. But I only finished the storage functionality, not the display.
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tantek kylewm++
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Loqi kylewm has 66 karma
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GWG I suppose food intake would be good if you want to get healthier, as a motivation.
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GWG Hmm...should write this down somewhere
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snarfed GWG: some of the best advice i've heard for this is, don't try to come up with itches or ideas explicitly
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snarfed instead, cultivate an open mind, be perceptive, and notice when they come up in your daily life
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snarfed finding the article
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snarfed http://paulgraham.com/startupideas.html
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GWG I'm not sure I am looking for them per se.
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snarfed no? "I just keep wondering what I do want to quantify." ?
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GWG I like many of the things other people are doing, and have tried to decide if I might want to do them when I see them.
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snarfed got it
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GWG Usually at a lesser level, such as the aaronpk metrics example.
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snarfed ok. for me, when i have an itch, i know it. i don't have to ask myself if i want it. if i'm not sure, i don't really want/need it
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GWG A week from today, I'm going on a short vacation. I'd like to store location data for that for future use, whereas I rarely want to do it when I'm going about my daily business.
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snarfed in other words, like we talked about last night, i say: don't overthink, just wait until you have clear itches, then build the
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snarfed good! clear itch
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GWG So, I'll probably be creating blank posts with the title of places I've been and the geodata, and then add the content later when I'm not at said places.
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snarfed sgtm
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GWG sgtm?
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kylewm what is sgtm?
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Loqi SGTM is an acronym for the expression sounds good to me which is sometimes used as quick shorthand in #indiewebcamp IRC discussions to indicate a particularly positive affirmative response to a proposal http://indiewebcamp.com/SGTM
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GWG kylewm: I spend a lot of time avoiding using the phrase what is, because it is often taken out of context.
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pdurbin +1 is fewer characters :)
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kylewm GWG: I try to only do it when I know it'll find something :P
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GWG kylewm: Sometimes I use it accidentally.
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@benwerd Computer scientists at work. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/521322006227087360/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/521322006227087360)
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kylewm snarfed: the only transformation that *really* matters for this test is mf2.json to as.json, right?
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snarfed kylewm: looking
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snarfed kylewm: yes
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kylewm snarfed: ok thank you
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snarfed feel free to just add a test to microformats2_test.py instead of testdata files if you want
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kylewm snarfed: ok cool, planning to do that for the p-photo-is-not-a-url test
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kylewm snarfed: actually would you want to handle "photo is not a url" in the microformats parsing or in the actual publishing code? (I'd think the latter)
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@t Yesterday's #IndieWebCamp Cambridge sessions: #vouch, inline #reply, #mobile #UX, #indiecomms: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Schedule (ttk.me t4Ya1) (twitter.com/_/status/521329668457521152)
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snarfed kylewm: agreed, probably in publish, not in the mf2 converter
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@tomwiththeweath RT @t: Yesterday's #IndieWebCamp Cambridge sessions: #vouch, inline #reply, #mobile #UX, #indiecomms: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Schedule (ttk.me t4Ya1) (twitter.com/_/status/521330340418166784)
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@invispide RT @benwerd: Computer scientists at work. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/521322006227087360/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/521331982366965761)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/521329668457521152/521330340418166784 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Schedule (webmention)
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@domenicoperri RT @t: Yesterday's #IndieWebCamp Cambridge sessions: #vouch, inline #reply, #mobile #UX, #indiecomms: http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Schedule (ttk.me t4Ya1) (twitter.com/_/status/521332341122564096)
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@domenicoperri RT @benwerd: Computer scientists at work. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/521322006227087360/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/521333187830902784)
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GWG Everyone hard at work on the video feed. Makes me wish I didn't have laundry to do
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bear :)
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bear i'm updating ronkyuu to have the start of being able to handle vouches
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bear (to at least not error out if a vouch param is included and the start of validation)
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GWG I will be picking up on one of my projects later. I'm refining right now, which means new features are coming, but will be a pain in the neck to implement, because I originally didn't scope well.
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bear ouch - those are a pain to deal with as you get pulled into the refactoring rabbit hole
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GWG bear: I started out with 3 variables. So I had them independent, as it was simpler.
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GWG bear: Now I've decided that I want to have the option for X number of variables, so instead of duplicative code, I can have a loop, which means I need to move the variables to an array.
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bear that's not too bad of a change
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bear just more framework-y code to support a list
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GWG bear: That was what I was about to say
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GWG bear: I just have to write a function to support myself...as I think I'm currently the only user.
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bear nods
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GWG Otherwise, reenter the data for my posts.
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bear always the best option when writing new code - get it working for yourself and then later figure out how to make it more general
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GWG bear: This is a rel-syndication link plugin. When I started, it was in a WordPress theme, then I moved it to a plugin...it's been evolving from the beginning.
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bear gwg++ for iterative itch scratching
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Loqi gwg has 22 karma
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GWG I keep making the code smaller and smaller, and rearranging pieces, and driving myself crazy. But it's a good crazy
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GWG And I just ripped off another piece and added it in, which allows me to simplify even more code...
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GWG And in the end, I keep asking myself...why didn't I think of that in the first place?
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bear you will never stop asking that question
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GWG I'm aware.
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bear but it's never a wrong thing, just more context in your brain about the problem so of course different solutions will present themselves
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bear (yep, speaking to the wider audience)
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GWG Right now, while I'm working on one problem, my mind is thinking about the next one
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/kind/bookmark/
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GWG Which is this. When I first did the contexts there, I did this quick and dirty grey box design. I think I could do better.
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bear design changes are always on my list because I do not like front-end design at all
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bear so I wait for others to get something that looks good and I "borrow" it
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aaronpk_ bear++ a reasonable approach
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GWG bear: I think I sort of did that. But, my plan was to try more inheritance from what I'm embedding it in.
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GWG My grey box looks like a bunch of other people's grey boxes.
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tantek ^^^ quotable
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aaronpk_ lunch was delicious
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tantek *is*. /me going back for seconds.
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aaronpk_ me too probably
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aaronpk_ maybe after some code
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GWG going to grab some food as well
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GWG aaronpk_: Still curious about two things from you. The video setup and the Pebble thing.
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aaronpk_ i hope I can demo the pebble thing later today
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GWG aaronpk_: If it is on the video feed, I'll watch it eventually
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GWG Even if I miss it live
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GWG aaronpk_: I'm just imagining you have a bunch of presets, because I can't imagine a keyboard
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aaronpk_ the livestreaming rig today is a small canon camera directly into an h.264 encoder which broadcasts to youtube over wifi http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/10/12/2/indiewebcamp
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tantek what is livestreaming?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "livestreaming" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=livestreaming
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GWG aaronpk_: Name of the encoder?
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aaronpk_ GWG: Teradek Vidiu
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tantek GWG, could you add that to /livestreaming ?
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kylewm is obra using a homemade keyboard?
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aaronpk_ you could call it that
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kylewm the pictures of them on his site were awwwwwwwesome
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tantek lol: benwerd is not impressed: http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg
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benwerd Oxford
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bret can we get a iPhone scan of the whiteboard in https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/521322006227087360 ?
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@benwerd Computer scientists at work. #indiewebcamp https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/521322006227087360/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/521322006227087360)
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obra aaronpk_: does the sms url on check.fsck.com look right?
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@user_media Computer scientists at work. #indiewebcamp http://usermediablog.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/computer-scientists-at-work-indiewebcamp/ (twitter.com/_/status/521341459685847040)
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obra indieauth is failing to see it
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benwerd bret: it's mostly gone already #whiteboarddeaths
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bret :[
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aaronpk_ obra: I usually check with http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fcheck.fsck.com%2F to see if it even shows up there
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tantek bret - uploaded - see recentchanges
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bret oh cool, k
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aaronpk_ http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-jazzhands.gif
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Loqi [mention] https://jessielikes.coffee/2014/fileiwc-cambridge-2014jpg linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg (webmention)
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aaronpk_ http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-sway.gif
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@JessieHonigs Yesterday's photo from #indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/521343236682838017)
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Loqi [mention] https://jessielikes.coffee/2014/yesterdays-photo-from-indiewebcamp-fileiwc-cambridge-2014jpg linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg (webmention)
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GWG looks up price of vidiu
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GWG Whoa
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aaronpk_ don't do that
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GWG What?
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aaronpk_ look up the price :P
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GWG No wonder it works so nicely.
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bret kylewm: umm... indieweb wise I have mainly been doing minor tweaks to my site. lots of brainstorming on what to do next
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bret gitpub needs work, but I'm a little at a loss of where to put my energy yet
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bret !tell erlehmann I can try to give you a slightly different take on indieauth next time you are around if you want
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bret omg http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-sway.gif
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GWG aaronpk, all I can say is that I will show my thanks for the investment by watching all the videos
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aaronpk_ :)
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gRegor` Hello, IWC hack day
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GWG Hello, gRegor
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gRegor` Hah, that jazz hands GIF is great. I can't stop watching.
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gRegor` Love the diverse interpretation of "jazz hands." very indieweb
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gRegor` Hi, GWG. How's it going? Are you hacking today?
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@benwerd Newton's ballers: http://indiewebcamp.com/images/5/5d/iwc-cambridge-sway.gif #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/521347065188601856)
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aaronpk_ benwerd++
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GWG I was hacking yesterday, and will do more tonight.
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GWG Right now, my need for clean clothes won out
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@gRegorLove Hahaha. Love this - from IndieWebCamp Cambridge this weekend: http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-jazzhands.gif #indiejazzhands (twitter.com/_/status/521347809576902656)
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bear ok, got the skeleton code for vouch added to ronkyuu - next to test it on my site
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bear but first a shower and some food are in order
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aaronpk_ bear: whoa!
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aaronpk_ bret: wanna turn this into an omnigraffle? http://indiewebcamp.com/File:2014-285-webmention-vouch-flowchart.jpg
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bear ah - I didn't know if it was ok to add the full size image so went for thumbnail
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aaronpk_ obra: https://github.com/barnabywalters/php-mf2-shim/blob/master/Mf2/Shim/Twitter.php
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tantek bear - I think the flow chart needs to be readable
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tantek to actually function as a good intro/overview
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obra thanks!
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bear tantek - i'm having trouble reading the final decision block in the "async 202" section
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aaronpk_ "Does my site accept webmentions to target? and does source link to target?"
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aaronpk_ maybe s/to/for
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bear ah - the normal webmention validation step then
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bear gotcha
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tantek textifying flowchart now…
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aaronpk_ yeah
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aaronpk_ but the "does my site accept webmentions for target?" check is now explicitly in the async section, since it requires resolving the target URL which involves HTTP requests
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bear nods
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Loqi [mention] http://timowens.io/bookmark/4b8f39b5926cd49c8df9c12d89143048/http-indiewebcampcom linked to http://indiewebcamp.com (webmention)
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bret tantek: are you turning that chart into a vector drawing?
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bear that is part of ronkyuu does now - haven't figured out if I want to make that optional or not
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tantek bret - it started as a vector drawing - on the whiteboard
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bret i mean on the computer
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caseorganic bret: do you want to do it?
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caseorganic bret: i could with omnigraffle - would take about 30 min
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bret i will if nobody else has started on it
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caseorganic bret: cool ok!
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bret caseorganic: do you know the best format to export the final chart as though?
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tantek SVG?
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bret it has always turned into an image in the past
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bret ill look into svg
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caseorganic tantek: aaronpk_: visio has that option
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/gRegorLove/521347809576902656/11628 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-jazzhands.gif (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] http://timowens.io/bookmark/df08552ce931dd6b300102b6ffd48514/http-indiewebcampcom linked to http://indiewebcamp.com (webmention)
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@domenicoperri RT @JessieHonigs: Yesterday's photo from #indiewebcamp http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/521356216065622017)
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tantek bear, bret, aaronpk see http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch#Flow_Chart now with text description of flow chart boxes
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@invispide IndieWebCamp is a 2-day creator camp focused on growing the independent web http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg (twitter.com/_/status/521356944746237952)
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bear thanks tantek
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bret working on getting omnigraffl on my new laptop
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tantek now to fix the summary
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/JessieHonigs/521343236682838017/11628 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/JessieHonigs/521343236682838017/93659884 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/File:iwc-cambridge-2014.jpg (webmention)
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sivy ho there
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sivy what' the non-camp version of indiewebcamp.com
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sivy (wiki/notes on implementations)
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tantek what are implementations?
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Loqi These are projects you can use to get your site on the IndieWeb and improve your IndieWeb support http://indiewebcamp.com/implementations
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sivy tantek: just notes on how others are solinv ghtis stuff
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sivy been a while
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benwerd sivy: it's all there on that wiki - don't let the "camp" part of the domain fool you :)
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tantek sivy, indeed. and Loqi gave you the answer :)
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Loqi dude
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sivy reading http://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started now
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sivy dude
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bear my simple pass at generating an image for the flow ^^
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sivy finally writing my own code again
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sivy after a long venture in "making a product"
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tantek bear - bottom right diamon is not right
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neuro` Good evening #indiewebcamp
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tantek vouch -> source's site? == does the vouch *link to* source's site?
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bear ahh - I didn't proof it against your text version
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bear updates
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tantek the --> arrow is always a link / link check
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bear wasn't even sure if that was an arrow tbh
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tantek now to rewrite the summary
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gRegor` Hi sivy, welcome.
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sivy benwerd: love the Known logo. love love love.
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sivy gRegor`: o/
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tantek sivy, another quick overview (since you're already quite familiar with all this stuff) is IndieMark: http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieMark
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gRegor` Do you have a personal website?
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sivy http://monkinetic.com <-- 500 err while i try to fix it
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benwerd sivy: thank you! erinjo gets the credit for that.
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sivy tantek: ty sir
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sivy i'm s ucker for well-mixed serif and sans
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shaners The livestream is so riveting on Day 2.
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tantek lol shaners
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shaners Look at that @benwerd type!
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tantek would it help if we played some background music like the social network soundtrack?
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benwerd creep, over and over and over again
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shaners I think I just heard benwerd's IRC mention notification on the livestream too. HA!
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shaners hahaha. yep there's the camera benwerd
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Loqi hehe
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benwerd :P
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bear grabs food
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benwerd I may not have noticed it until right then
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tantek benwerd I'm thinking more like "In Motion"
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shaners ok. i'm a close the live feed as to not make you feel like a science experiment.
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shaners have fun!
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shaners benwerd ^^^
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benwerd is a science experiment
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shaners I legit woke up today thinking that it was Monday. And was confused by the talk of trains and getting to IWC and working on stuff. I even thought my computer's date was off by a day because it ws saying Sunday.
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sivy gRegor`: got it back up
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sivy http://www.monkinetic.com/
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sivy back yaml value in a post
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sivy still a bit fragile to that
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tantek sivy no-www.org
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shaners tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 94 karma
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shaners www__
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aaronpk_ sivy: whoa hi! long time!
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shaners www--
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Loqi www has -2 karma
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sivy aaronpk_: \o/
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rascul eww www
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sivy ok, ok people.
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sivy get your pants out of bunch
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sivy working on it
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sivy site is fronted by a CDN
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sivy and i can't yet A-record to them
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sivy i'm with you on the www thing
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gRegor` sivy: Nice! I hadn't made the connection with the domain. Markbox / boxpub came up recently in chat.
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tantek what is a CDN?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "CDN" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=CDN
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sivy tantek: monkinetic.com is fronted by fastly, so my little gunicorn app is not killed
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tantek what is fastly?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "fastly" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=fastly
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sivy tantek: please tell me this is just bot-talk and yu're not serious
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aaronpk_ what is tanteking?
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Loqi Tantek-ing refers to a method of encouraging people to make edits to this wiki http://indiewebcamp.com/tanteking
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tantek sivy - it's an indirect prompt to the person who first mentioned the term to create a short wiki dfn page for it.
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sivy wow, that's... very tantek
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sivy :)
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sivy i am not allowed to edit
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sivy apprently my own domain is not yet indieweb enough yet
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sivy *le sigh*
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sivy feels like one of those infosec "apply for this job by comprimising this server and leaving your contact info in the correct location"
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@dundeemakespace Our next special event coming up is the inaugural Web Workshop. Make sure to get your tickets https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/web-workshop-001-the-indieweb-tickets-13600109293 (twitter.com/_/status/521365192979271680)
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sivy heh
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@digitalWestie RT @dundeemakespace: Our next special event coming up is the inaugural Web Workshop. Make sure to get your tickets https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/web-workshop-001-the-indieweb-tickets-13600109293 (twitter.com/_/status/521365435510706177)
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gRegor` Haha, sivy. You can sign in pretty easily if you add a rel=me link to GitHub, Twitter, or others as documented on indieauth.com
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sivy yeah, i see it and know how. just have not got my tempaltes updated yet
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sivy give me a few
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gRegor` Cool cool
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bret preview https://www.dropbox.com/s/p5xjzjr9jlpg507/Screenshot%202014-10-12%2011.24.24.png?dl=0
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gRegor` being tanteked isn't an obligation :)
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gRegor` bret: Looking good. Missing a "y" after "Approve source?"
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bret missing a few things still, ty for pointing that out
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@DekHarper RT @dundeemakespace: Our next special event coming up is the inaugural Web Workshop. Make sure to get your tickets https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/web-workshop-001-the-indieweb-tickets-13600109293 (twitter.com/_/status/521366274811912195)
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sivy hrm. twitter is t.co-ing profile urls. even though there is a rel="me nofollow" on the link, is that legit?
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tantek who is Grant Richmond?
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shaners sivy: twitter TCOs all links everywhere now.
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sivy yeah, does it break rel=me
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sivy ?
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sivy or does indieauth follwo redirects
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tantek the latter
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sivy ty
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shaners indieauth does The Right Thing™
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KevinMarks_ I wish twitter supported www.t.co - as browsers try that when t.co barfs
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shaners benwerd erinjo: Finally signed up a *.withknown.com account. the onboarding process is very smooth. well done.
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benwerd shaners: Thanks! More to come (including the obvious elephant in the room re: domains)
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shaners duhn duhn duhn
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@jimgroom @aaronpk @timmmmyboy Forgive the polemics, but does that mean MS Frontpage and Dreamweaver are #Indieweb apps? They fit that definition. (twitter.com/_/status/521368225565925376)
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shaners is it possible to POSSE into .com hosted Known? if not, is it on the radar?
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shaners benwerd ^^
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benwerd shaners: _into_ is on the radar
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benwerd for .com
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benwerd for sure
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shaners sweet
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bret tantek: aaronpk gRegor` caseorganic https://www.dropbox.com/s/7y4vqnrj2x9dlts/Screenshot%202014-10-12%2011.37.55.png?dl=0 see any issues before I upload an svg?
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caseorganic bret: NICE!
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aaronpk_ bret: I think if you move the lower right diamond down farther you can make it have a straight line from "vouch -> source" to the box and then the green dashed box can be a rectangle instead of crazy L
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caseorganic bret: you're missing a 202 on the right
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sivy hrm. i do not know how to interpret this error:
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bret ok
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caseorganic bret: also needs the 2014-285 IndieWebCamp Cambridge label
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sivy "Unknown error retrieving http://www.monkinetic.com: undefined method `value' for nil:NilClass"
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bret oops
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caseorganic bret: yay!
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Loqi woot
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aaronpk_ sivy: oh weird!
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sivy logging into IWC.com
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sivy also, indieauth.com doesn't like the twitter link
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shaners bret: I like to add a title of the diagram in the diagram when i make diagrams because inevitably it'll get shared without any text for context. nice to have an answer to "what the hell is this diagram of?"
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sivy oh i know why
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aaronpk_ please tell me :)
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bret lol good point shaners
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sivy oh no that's not it
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sivy i thought i had used no-www monkinetic link on tiwtter
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sivy but they just remove it for display
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sivy aaronpk_: http://indiewebify.me/validate-rel-me/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fmonkinetic.com
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sivy says that twitter does not link
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aaronpk_ k i'm debugging locally
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sivy oh, and gRegor`: there were two markbox's -- a free script on github, and the hosted service i ran for a while
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sivy the github one is not related, and the naming was nearly simultaneous
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sivy i ran markbox.io for a good while
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sivy but is gone now
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gRegor` sivy: I have found that I had to update my Twitter profile (remove/re-add) the Twitter link to get indieauth to work. Github works more reliably.
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sivy both allow publishing from dropbox
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sivy gRegor`: aha
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sivy thanks
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aaronpk_ sivy: you have this in your <head> tag block: <link rel="me" ref="http://monkinetic.com">
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gRegor` Ah, ok. Yeah, markbox.io came up in chat, regarding its unfortuante death. :/
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aaronpk_ shouldn't that be href?
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aaronpk_ and why do you need that pointing to itself?
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sivy oh, aborted experiemnt
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sivy left in
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sivy one sec
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@BarnabyWalters @benwerd @indiewebcamp what is this i dont even (https://waterpigs.co.uk/notes/4YaJm2/) (twitter.com/_/status/521371252368637953)
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aaronpk_ i'll handle that error case better
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sivy gRegor`: :)
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tantek shaners re: "inevitably it'll get shared without any text for context" agreed. I debated whether or not to put "diagram by Tantek & Aaron" on the whiteboard and decided not to. we'll see what happens.
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sivy yeah i just could not keep up wiht it, and then the hosting just went away one day. like, physical box unplugged.
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sivy aaronpk_: auth works now
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sivy i really need to figure out no-www
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shaners tantek bret maybe an IWC wiki url at the bottom "for more infomation"
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bret Ok and a URL
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aaronpk_ cool. in this case it was me not handling an edge case sufficiently
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tantek yes. bret, bear include in diagrams: Updates and more information: indiewebcamp.com/vouch
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tantek caseorganic ^^^
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caseorganic tantek++
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Loqi tantek has 95 karma
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tantek am going to also go out on a limb and say any kind of "Copyright © …." would be seen as uncool
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tantek as it implies origination of the diagram, which is not true
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tantek -- ignoring arguments about different artistic expressions etc. thereof --
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@aaronpk @jimgroom @timmmmyboy I suppose? But not if they store things in proprietary formats maybe? Anyway what... #indieweb http://aaronparecki.com/replies/2014/10/12/1/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/521372942190399488)
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KevinMarks has someone already implemented micropub in node?
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KevinMarks a micropub client, that is
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@jimgroom @aaronpk @timmmmyboy I imagine if you're describing applications as #Indieweb then it's important, rather than an #indieweb as ethos. (twitter.com/_/status/521373444748099584)
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@timmmmyboy @jimgroom @aaronpk I'd say third party sites don't meet third qualifier: "You are in control". #indieweb actions but not app itself. (twitter.com/_/status/521374031686402049)
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sivy yay indieauth is hapy now. still exploring how to no-www the site
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aaronpk_ sweet
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@EventRadio365 RT @dundeemakespace: Our next special event coming up is the inaugural Web Workshop. Make sure to get your tickets https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/web-workshop-001-the-indieweb-tickets-13600109293 (twitter.com/_/status/521374943293239297)
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@steveivy Home sick on a Sunday (ew), hacking on boxpub and making my site a little more #indieweb. That feels good. (twitter.com/_/status/521374981012590592)
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tantek what is boxpub?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "boxpub" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=boxpub
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aaronparecki.com edited /Tantek-ing (+95) "update dfn from tantek's definition http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2014-10-12/line/1413137958300" (view diff)
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aaronpk_ so recursive
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www.monkinetic.com created /boxpub (+199) "Created page with "Boxpub is a blog engine written in Python that supports serving a blog out of Dropbox. https://github.com/sivy/boxpub Boxpub is (sort-of) actively developed by Steve Ivy (https..."" (view diff)
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bret logo no logo? https://www.dropbox.com/s/gqk43qakql3hycy/Screenshot%202014-10-12%2012.05.39.png?dl=0
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shaners bret: i didn't realize you were on team YYYY-DDD
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bret hehe, im not any team
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bret thats what they labeled it as!
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sivy bret: logo, smaller, and flip the entire content justifcation.
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sivy :)
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sivy right justified is hurting my brain
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sivy :)
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shaners that's what *tantek* labeled. ;)
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tantek shaners - that's my stego signature ;)
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bret https://www.dropbox.com/s/qdqfr7oq2s3rf84/Screenshot%202014-10-12%2012.08.26.png?dl=0
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benwerd Top level mf2 examples being used in the wild for feed items (not people)? h-entry, h-event, any others?
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sivy could someone please recommend categories for http://indiewebcamp.com/boxpub and tell me how to add them on the wii page
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shaners http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/70/Stegosaurus_BW.jpg
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shaners benwerd: why do you ask?
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sivy bret: better, i'd recommend moving the text block to the left of the page, and the chart leaning right
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sivy better would be put the text block and logo across the top
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sivy then the chart below, unobstrcuted
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sivy (or text and logo across the bottom, architecturral plan-style)
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sivy <-- former designer, i can't help it
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shaners benwerd: i use h-cite for bookmarks
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benwerd shaners: thanks
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shaners benwerd: looks like tommorris is using h-review for https://tommorris.org/places/9
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aaronpk_ also h-card
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bret like that? https://www.dropbox.com/s/1usi6vyseou79fu/Screenshot%202014-10-12%2012.13.32.png?dl=0
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sivy hrm. looks like using a 3rd party cdn for second-level domain is not really possible. I think i knew this and had intentionally forgotten. http://docs.fastly.com/guides/domains-and-dns/can-i-use-fastly-with-a-second-level-domain
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shaners eli duke (my bff in pdx) is using h-recipe in the wild (though not in a feed, proper) http://www.eliduke.com/recipes/vegan-mac-and-cheese
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sivy looks up nginx caching
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shaners benwerd ^^^
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GWG sivy: What do you want to know about nginx caching?
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GWG I use it on my stuff
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aaronpk_ oh man how did this turn into refactoring my webmention endpoint :(
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barnabywalters if you’re counting experimental (read: nonexistant) vocabs: h-x-tune https://waterpigs.co.uk/music/ (also in homepage feed, e.g. https://waterpigs.co.uk/?before=2014-10-12T1846)
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Loqi barnabywalters: jonnybarnes left you a message 3 days, 9 hours ago: I've added a u-uid for jonnybarnes.uk to my homepage's h-card, both our auth algo implementations now behave as we want them to, i.e. my author url is now my homepage: https://shrewdness.waterpigs.co.uk/test/?url=https://jonnybarnes.uk%2Fnotes/3Y
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sivy GWG: my publishing software calls out to dropbox to get content; I am using fastly to front my site to prevent lots of slow calls to dropbox when nothing has changed.
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Loqi barnabywalters: jonnybarnes left you a message 3 days, 9 hours ago: I've added a u-uid for jonnybarnes.uk to my homepage's h-card, both our auth algo implementations now behave as we want them to, i.e. my author url is now my homepage: https://shrewdness.waterpigs.co.uk/test/?url=https://jonnybarnes.uk/notes/3Y
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sivy GWG: I am running gunicorn as my wsgi container
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barnabywalters jonnybarnes: yay! nice work!
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Loqi woot
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sivy had nginx on another site
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sivy and figured i'd use that to cache html
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tantek shaners - re: h-recipe - awesome - can you add to http://microformats.org/wiki/h-recipe#Examples_in_the_Wild ?
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shaners you can!
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sivy but not sure how to purge only certain items from the cache
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tantek what is gunicorn?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "gunicorn" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=gunicorn
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tantek what is wsgi?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "wsgi" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=wsgi
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www.monkinetic.com created /wsgi (+320) "Created page with "(from http://wsgi.readthedocs.org/en/latest/what.html) "WSGI is the Web Server Gateway Interface. It is a specification that describes how web server communicates with web appli..."" (view diff)
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GWG sivy: Nginx has a cache where it will store the page and serve it. I use it for FastCGI, but it also has proxy and I think uwsgi.
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shaners Is webmention to be capitalized or nah?
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shaners Is vouch to be capitalized or nah?
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tantek shaners per canonical URL
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sivy GWG is it possible to purge individual items from the cache?
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sivy items/urls?
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shaners tantek: huh?
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bear.im edited /Special:Log/upload () "uploaded a new version of "[[File:Vouch Flowchart.png]]": added logo and link to vouch page" (view diff)
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aaronpk_ obra: https://s.ly/2014/aaronpkstatus521053456245612546
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shaners When writing about (w|W)ebmention and/or (v|V)ouch, should I capitalize the first letter or not?
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gRegor` I presume demos will be livestreamed today?
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tantek yes
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tantek shaners - what does the wiki page URL have?
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caseorganic https://farm1.staticflickr.com/21/26967479_67aeb9c1be_o.jpg
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caseorganic tantek: :)
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tantek nice find caseorganic :)
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aaronpk_ nice
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caseorganic tantek: too much archeology
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aaronpk_ yes will be streaming demos!
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caseorganic tantek: bingo https://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/26967479/
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gRegor` sivy: categories aren't used too heavily on IWC wiki. For /projects, usually just a See Also section link to /projects
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sivy ah, ok
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caseorganic tantek: i was looking for dopplr screenshots.
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barnabywalters caseorganic: lol
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barnabywalters caseorganic: briansuda still has the dopplr app installed, but you can’t get very far into it now the service is gone
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caseorganic barnabywalters: curious. thanks!
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caseorganic barnabywalters: do you think you could get him to take screenshots of it and send them to me?
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tantek what is dopplr?
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Loqi Dopplr was a silo for sharing future travel plans http://indiewebcamp.com/Dopplr
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@veganstraightedge Microformats™: Multi-Purpose Web 2.0 glue http:///photos/factoryjoe/26967479 /by @chrismessina /via @caseorganic in #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/521382123396034560)
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barnabywalters caseorganic: sure! will ask him about it tomorrow
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GWG sivy: Yes, by one of two methods...
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GWG sivy: One, compile the cache purge module. Two, by setting a header when asking for the file to be retrieved that will regenerate the cache
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shaners tantek: it looks like both wm and vouch are lower case URLs.
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shaners is that canon?
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tantek hmm
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tantek now that's a good question
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shaners wm has a Wm redirect though
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shaners I tend to be a fan of capitalizing these things because they end up capped if they're the first word of a sentence.
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sivy GWG: thanks sir
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sivy will do some more reading
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shaners on http://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention we have both Webmention and webmention.
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tantek quick demo by Tim
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tantek showed logging into his Known using IndieAuth (instead of user/pass)
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tantek showed POSSEing bookmark posts to diigo, a bookmark silo often used by those in education
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bear sivy - if you add to the location that is serving your html cache headers then nginx will always honour the browser's request if it sends etag info for returning cached content
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tantek Tim has a 3rd demo
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shaners same with http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch : both vouch and Vouch are on the page
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bret.io uploaded /File:Webmention_Vouch.svg "A flowchart covering Webmention Vouch Process"
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tantek shows timowens.io/contact - drops down a message to save it to your home screen
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tantek demonstrates one-click UI to txt him, and other methods
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sivy bear - yeah, I want more control over it; basically i want "always cache unless I explicitly purge"
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Loqi gives sivy more control over it
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tantek built it at the indiecomms session yesterday
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sivy ty Loqi
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Loqi who, me?
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gRegor` webmention appears capitalized in some section headings and when it's first in a sentence, otherwise the majority are lowercase. I vote lowercase.
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aaronpk_ I think the answer is "is it a proper noun? if so, capitalize"
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shaners aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 577 karma
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shaners Look at the complication of "iPhone". How does one capitalize that if it's the first word in a sentence?
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gRegor` That's a properly weird noun. :)
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aaronpk_ good thing it's not iMention
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aaronpk_ or iVouch
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shaners zing!
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gRegor` Webmention the protocol seems like a proper noun. Referring to an individual webmention I receive does not seem like a proper noun.
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tantek that sounds reasonable
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shaners agreed
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tantek.com edited /Special:Log/move () "moved [[webmention]] to [[Webmention]] over redirect: capitalize the formal name of the spec / protocol" (view diff)
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gRegor` I believe I've seen similar with Pingback/Trackback over time.
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aaronpk_ gRegor`: care to add that here? http://indiewebcamp.com/style-guide
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gRegor` Dangit
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aaronpk_ :D
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gRegor` Sure ;)
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sivy ok i just got varnish running on my server, fronting my site. aint it good to be a nerd.
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tantek.com edited /WebMention (+0) "reduce redirect" (view diff)
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bret aaronpk_: does the wiki support graffle uploads so someone else can download and make edits?
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aaronpk_ bret: probably not, but I might be ableto enable .zip uploads
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tantek.com edited /webmentions (+0) "reduce redirect" (view diff)
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bret that might be useful
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aaronpk_ (if that isn't already supported)
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bret ill try
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tantek.com edited /WordPress (+0) "/* webmention */ uncamel" (view diff)
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KevinMarks if you post ti as SVG we could edit it...
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tantek.com edited /WordPress (+0) "/* webmention */ lc" (view diff)
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bret KevinMarks: media wiki converts it to an image when you put it in a page, and whatever does that is not happy with the svg format i am providiing
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bret.io uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:Webmention Vouch.png]]""
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GWG sivy: Never played with that myself. Felt Nginx cached well enough
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tantek.com edited /Known (+0) "lc" (view diff)
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KevinMarks huh, I thought mediawiki understood SVG ok (unlike facebook, twitter etc)
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sivy GWG: i woprked at fastly for a while, so I have a soft place in my heart for varnish
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aaronpk_ i think it does
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bear bah - in order to properly test my vouch work I have to finally make my site auto-add webmentions
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GWG sivy: I can understand that
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tantek.com edited /timeline (+0) "uncamel" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /style-guide (+167) "Webmention section" (view diff)
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bret.io edited /Special:Log/upload () "uploaded a new version of "[[File:Webmention Vouch.png]]"" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /Webmention (+18) "/* See Also */ style guide" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /vouch (+1052) "start capturing from my 2014-09-28 IRC braindump. Summary and Design Considerations, explicit "In Progress" section." (view diff)
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bret.io edited /vouch (-25) "/* Flow Chart */ Added non-whiteboard flowchart" (view diff)
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shaners bret++
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Loqi bret has 34 karma
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shaners Great job on the /vouch diagram
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bret aaronpk_: Permitted file types: png, gif, jpg, jpeg, pdf, txt, svg, ai.
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tantek bret - the green arrows for "yes" are confusing with the green dashed line meaning async
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gRegor` "the Indie Web" and "IndieWeb" still seem odd to me
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tantek the arrows should all be black
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tantek gRegor`: that's ok - we want both terms to direct people here
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bret Should I colorize yes and no?
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tantek no
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bear my colour blind self would appreciate arrows being monochrome
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tantek too much noise
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tantek aka chartjunk
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gRegor` I mean the capitalizations.
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shaners tantek: i disagree. red/green == no/yes.
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aaronpk_ the green is already used to indicate async
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bear except to those who can't see red/green
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aaronpk_ also the arrows are already labeled yes/no so the color does not add any additional information
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aaronpk_ bear: can you tell the difference between the green and blue dashed lines?
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tantek shaners - it distracts from the more essential information in the chart
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bear no
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tantek and what colors are used for
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GWG bear: I sympathize. I'm not color blind, but I have a coworkers who labels everything in red, yellow,and green and I use shades of grey
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tantek separating webmention vs vouch vs async
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shaners Actually, i'm just gonna back away from this bikeshed. Do whatever yall want. :D
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bret lol aight
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tantek shaners - right, any chance of color from what was drawn is bikeshed
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tantek s/chance/change
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Loqi tantek meant to say: shaners - right, any change of color from what was drawn is bikeshed
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bear aaronpk_ the boxes are aligned so not being able to see the colours I can still see what is boxed
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aaronpk_ ok good
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tantek.com edited /vouch (+25) "Reverted edits by [[Special:Contributions/Bret.io|Bret.io]] ([[User talk:Bret.io|talk]]) to last revision by [[User:Tantek.com|Tantek.com]]" (view diff)
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tantek reverting until diagram is fixed. also if "adding", then old diagram should be moved to a "Background" section, rather than being removed
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tantek bret - ideally the vector diagram would not make *any* editorial changes from the whiteboard diagram
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tantek date, title etc.
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tantek it should be like an OCR
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tantek notes the green dashes are much smaller than the blue dashes in the original whiteboard diagram
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bret rgr making corrections
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aaronpk_ bret++
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Loqi bret has 35 karma
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tantek thanks bret!
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bret What about the title (other than the date)
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bret.io edited /Special:Log/upload () "uploaded a new version of "[[File:Webmention Vouch.png]]"" (view diff)
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bret tantek: can you check http://indiewebcamp.com/File:Webmention_Vouch.png now?
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aaronpk_ omg so much cleaner
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ben_thatmust__ https://ben.thatmustbe.me/vouchsearch?url=http://adactio.com/links/6980/
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ben_thatmust__ just did it json for now so i could test results;
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bret safe to put that on vouch now?
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tantek.com moved /vouch to /Vouch "capitalize name of protocol"
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tantek.com edited /Webmention_with_Vouch (+0) "-redirect" (view diff)
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bret i gotta run, feel free to use the latest edit or send me more changes. bye all!
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ben_thatmust__ hmm, i suppose bret, I don't know if i'm going to keep that there or even open to the public
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aaronpk_ thanks bret!
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aaronpk_ we are pushing demos back an hour to 5pm
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GWG Good...I take my break at 5:10...I can watch
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GWG Hi, KartikPrabhu_
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KartikPrabhu_ nice sway gif from the live group
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KartikPrabhu_ hi gwg
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KartikPrabhu_ lol at gRegor calling iPhone a properly weird noun for capitalisation!
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KartikPrabhu_ is there a common link to yesterday's etherpad notes?
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ben_thatmust__ https://etherpad.mozilla.org/indiewebcamp-cambridge
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KartikPrabhu_ ben_thatmust__: thanks
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ben_thatmust__ what is bower
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "bower" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=bower
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shaners what is h-recipe?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "h-recipe" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=h-recipe
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shaners oh yeah. wrong wiki.
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@obra OH at #indiewebcamp http://isthesundownforeverybodyorjustme.com (twitter.com/_/status/521395099264385026)
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bear @KevinMarks - in the repo where your nodejs project is run "npm init ."
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ben_thatmust__ i'm thinking my todo list soon may include creating h-poll or something to that effect
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aaronpk_ there's nothing like refactoring a ton of code 30 minutes before demos
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tantek.com edited /2014/Cambridge (+0) "/* Schedule */ update demo" (view diff)
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tantek hello willowbl00!
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ben_thatmust__ https://ben.thatmustbe.me/new if you enter "http://adactio.com/links/6980/" for "Reply To" and then change to some other field, ajax prefills vouch for me
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willowbl00 hey tantek!
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willowbl00 how was the day?
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tantek it's been a very productive day of sketching, documenting, and coding!
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tantek also - you should see the photos / animated gifs from yesterday :)
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willowbl00 yay!
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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willowbl00 where are they at?
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kylewm ben_thatmust__: looks cool, what criteria does the in-reply-to url have to meet to find a vouch url?
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ben_thatmust__ any incoming referer links, i keep track of, then async i will parse go through that list and validate that they actually do link to my site without a rel=nofollow
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ben_thatmust__ when i enter an in-reply-to url, it will curl that URL and check that page(as well as the base domain homepage) to find any links that are not rel=nofollow links
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ben_thatmust__ from there i look up the domain in my list
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kylewm ben_thatmust__: i'm a little confused why it doesn't work for a page on adactio's site that doesn't mention kartik https://adactio.com/notes/7645
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gRegor` Pencils down, Cambridge.
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ben_thatmust__ if adactio.com/ linked to kartik, it would work on any page
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aaronpk_ noooooo
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rascul i don't have a pencil
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gRegor` We want demos :)
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ben_thatmust__ i need a pencil
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ben_thatmust__ *looks at Loqi*
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Loqi yeah!
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ben_thatmust__ kylewm, basically i need some hint that adactio would accept kartik as a vouch for me, so I do a quick best-effort on the URL i'm given and the homepage
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ben_thatmust__ ideally once i had one successful vouch mention i wouldn't need to send any more
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kylewm ok gotcha
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kylewm nice work!
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bear right now i'm using a simple list of "known ok" domains
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bear which I'm going to backfill by reprocessing my webmentions log
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KartikPrabhu_ is now a vouch guinea pig. bit then so is adactio
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KartikPrabhu_ Hey live demo links please for us sitting on the sidelines
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@veganstraightedge RT @anomalily: In my ideal world, very soon the code divas of @BlackGirlsCode will be AT #indiewebcamp building a more open web. <3 #DayOfT… (twitter.com/_/status/521406720812146688)
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KevinMarks the demos link says stand by https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=djKoYXh1L18
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KartikPrabhu_ Cool
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bear is the stream changing for live demo?
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bret aaronpk_: ^^
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aaronpk_ y
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tantek first up to demo
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tantek erinjo!
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gRegor` No stream yet?
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bear the stream still says "Starting soon..."
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aaronpk_ one sec
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KartikPrabhu_ Are you not entertained?
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rascul today's demos are secret
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tantek erinjo uses the basis watch
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tantek the company doesn't have an export
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tantek but this person figured out a hack to get the data out
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tantek pulled that stuff off github
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aaronpk_ stream is running, you'll see it soon
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tantek now running a script on the terminal
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tantek gets a spreadsheet every day
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tantek setup a thing today that pulls in the data from a csv file
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tantek to add an entry when waking up and when going to bed
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tantek according to the data coming in from the watch
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gRegor` We're live!
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tantek each record from the watch each day
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tantek looks like this
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tantek (shows spreadsheet of csv)
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GWG just tuned in
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tantek can get the time it records going to sleep, waking up, light minutes spent sleeping, deep minutes spent sleeping
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tantek also has from phone data back to 2010 measuring sleep
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tantek would like to add that in also
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bear thanks tantek for being scribe
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tantek this is what started with this morning
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tantek wants to add a component that shows how much time in light, deep, REM sleep
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tantek and that will complete sleep tracking for her own site!
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tantek it's live everytime I run the script and upload the files
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tantek I have to plug-in the watch to get files
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tantek need to get the data off the watch onto the server first, which requires I plug my watch into my computer first
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GWG I can't give enough kudos for the video feed.
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tantek GWG -> aaronpk++
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tantek up next
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GWG I was really disappointed about that at previous IWCs.
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tantek ben_thatmust:
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GWG aaronpk_++
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Loqi aaronpk has 578 karma
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GWG aaronpk_++
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GWG aaronpk_++
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GWG I want an even 580
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tantek ben_thatmust: added to his new UI
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tantek creating post UI
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GWG aaronpk++
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tantek ben.thatmustbe.me/new
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KevinMarks should I be live-noting?
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bear aaronpk++
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Loqi gives GWG an even
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Loqi aaronpk has 579 karma
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tantek KevinMarks: yes!
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GWG Never mind. Must be a rate limiter
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tantek e.g. if ben_thatmust replies to
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KevinMarks who's up>
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tantek adactio.com/links/8980
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GWG I think that must be Ben
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tantek KevinMarks: ben_thatmust
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tantek KevinMarks: see /irc-people for details for irc nicks
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tantek ben_thatmust: entered adactio.com/links/8980 into the "Reply To" field
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tantek his server then uses AJAX to go check that links
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tantek and auto-fill a Vouch URL
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tantek based on indexing all the referrers to ben.thatmustbe.me 's site
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GWG tantek: I'm just imagining this narration the way one narrates a golf tournament.
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tantek up next
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tantek aaronpk
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dissolve333: I added http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch support to https://ben.thatmustbe.me/new by indexing my referrers (twitter.com/_/status/521409669349531648)
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tantek demonstrating his web page
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tantek shows a webmention sending UI
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tantek source tantek.com
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tantek target aaronparecki.ci
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tantek c/ci/com
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I have a webpage with a webmention endpoint which gives a form when you fetch it from a browser (twitter.com/_/status/521409969036726272)
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tantek target aaronparecki.com
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/521329668457521152/1087125648 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Schedule (webmention)
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tantek ran through his approve function
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tantek and his approve function checked that he (aaronparecki.com) had linked to tantek.com in the past
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tantek thus the approve passed
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GWG !tell acegiak How is that whitelist webmention plugin going?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek and queued the async process to verify the webmention link itself source->target
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: when I get a webmention it goes through the approve() function and checks if I have linked to you before (twitter.com/_/status/521410379000610817)
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tantek aaronpk: shows a manual webmention from randomguy URL to aaronparecki.com
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tantek shows that it is rejected
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tantek not from an approved domain
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tantek responds with HTTP 449 code
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tantek now redoes the webmention UI with a vouch URL
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tantek which goes to the vouch handling flow
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: if I send a webmention from a non approved domain it sends a 449 code instead (twitter.com/_/status/521410623088119808)
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tantek approves the vouch (which is an indiewebcamp.com URL)
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tantek the last step is checking the vouch links to the source's site
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GWG I need to read that vouch wiki page
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tantek not implemented yet
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GWG And watch the movie
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tantek but in this case the vouch would not validate, since the indiewebcamp wiki does not link to randomguy
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tantek aaronpk refactored his webmention code
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tantek one for handling all the synchronous code in the http handler file
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tantek and moved all network requests out of that to a separate file for the async processing
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tantek and a third file does status display of async webmention processing
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tantek everything that is happening is also logged in a database
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tantek so that he can see who is being used for vouches
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tantek status of vouches
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tantek up next
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tantek rascul!
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aaronpk_ how's the audio this time?
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GWG What about the Pebble demo?
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aaronpk_ i'm gonna show that at the end
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bret goood audio
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anomalily It's soo cool. Did you do more work on the pebble app today, apk?
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GWG I had to turn the volume up a bit...
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aaronpk_ sadly nope :(
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aaronpk_ maybe I can on the plane :D
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anomalily Seems like you were busy busy today anyway
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GWG anomalily: You are the one who really likes train stations, right?
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rascul no hdmi for me yet :(
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KevinMarks I have an android
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gRegor` I has android
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anomalily Um, yes, I do in fact really like trainstations
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anomalily And the trains in them
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rascul http://tantek.com/contact.html
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gRegor` Haha "hold still"
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rascul it should only show facetime if you're on ios or osx
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rascul using platform.js which i had discovered yesterday, http://tmp.rascul.io/os.html
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I added to my indiecomms page of contact info it shows facetime on iOS/MacOS but not on android (twitter.com/_/status/521411942628741120)
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anomalily Yea platform-conditional improvements, @t
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GWG anomalily: We'll have to #indiechat about that sometime.
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tantek ben_thatmust: has another demo
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tantek his new business cards
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@erinjo I made a little #qs thing at #indiewebcamp today that shows when I woke up and when I fell asleep: http://erinjorichey.com/nightday/ (twitter.com/_/status/521412257247268864)
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tantek one side says <BR>
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tantek other side has his h-card
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/521329668457521152/1734065594 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2014/Cambridge/Schedule (webmention)
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tantek marked up with his vim highlight colors
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anomalily H CARD BIZ CARD SO GEEKY
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GWG Extra points for the vim colors
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gRegor` Ha! That's awesome, ben
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@benwerd RT @erinjo: I made a little #qs thing at #indiewebcamp today that shows when I woke up and when I fell asleep: http://erinjorichey.com/nightday/ (twitter.com/_/status/521412478333632512)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: I also added the "add to homescreen" prompting animation to my http://tantek.com/contacts.html page (twitter.com/_/status/521412484092420096)
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bret rad cards
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 21 karma
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anomalily ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 22 karma
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bret tantek: skype button just loads skype now, does not offer to call you
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gRegor` tantek: Tried loading your contact.html for the first time on my iPad and didn't get the prompt
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bear ben_thatmustbeme++ nice business card
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Loqi dude
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bret (on ios
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tantek gRegor`: yeah I'm not sure it's working at all
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @dissolve333: I made a business card that has my h-card markup on the back (twitter.com/_/status/521412677282062336)
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rascul h-business-card ?
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tantek Up next
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anomalily Did loqi just "dude" the collective karma-ing?
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tantek Jesse AKA obra
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KevinMarks can you tilt up so we can see the screen too
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bret mooninites!
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KevinMarks 'cos we can just see the bottom 2 lines
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aaronpk_ camera is tilting up
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aaronpk_ not the ideal livestreaming setup :)
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pdurbin you gotta be there
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GWG pdurbin: I'd have loved to be
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tantek obra:
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tantek spend the day
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tantek importing his twitter into his Known instance
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tantek into a test Known instance
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tantek the fact that it's a reply to Twitter works
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tantek the fact that it's also posted on Twitter works (with a rel-syndication link)
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tantek things import
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tantek have not undone t.co URLs yet
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tantek didn't bother to implement actually getting a token from indieauth
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@benwerd Watching @obra demo his Twitter to @withknown importer. He's importing all his tweets! #indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/521413517438500865)
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tantek re-used tokens from elsewhere
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gRegor` Ha. Good work, Twitter
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: I have been importing my tweets into Known today (twitter.com/_/status/521413586934333441)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: the @twitter export drops timestamps for tweets before 2010 (twitter.com/_/status/521413668660318209)
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tantek parses the json from the twitter export
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@OhhSocialMedia RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: I also added the "add to homescreen" prompting animation to my http://tantek.com/contacts.html page (twitter.com/_/status/521413807240134658)
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@OhhSocialMedia RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @dissolve333: I made a business card that has my h-card markup on the back (twitter.com/_/status/521413812449456129)
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tantek gets the content, date published, syndication,
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tantek and explicitly does not send webmentions for imports
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tantek and uses indiepub
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: I parse the json from the twitter export and post them to known in backwards order for each month (twitter.com/_/status/521414004108181506)
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tantek which is a Known plugin that implements IndieAuth and Micropub
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tantek not sending webmentions, because this is still a test import
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tantek and doesn't want to have to throw them away and resend
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tantek unsure if wants to send webmentions for imported content
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: I use the new "nomention" feature @benwerd added to the API so I don't send 7 years of webmentions on import (twitter.com/_/status/521414299496230913)
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GWG I warned about not sending webmentions on old content. I made that mistake.
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tantek was also getting stuck on webmentions to dopplr, likely when trying to get the endpoint
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: Known was timing out trying to get the webmention endpoint for Dopplr as the site is dead (twitter.com/_/status/521414729815052289)
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kylewm tantek++ omnomentions
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Loqi tantek has 96 karma
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KevinMarks who's up?
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tantek up next
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tantek rascul:
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aaronpk_ rascul is up now
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KevinMarks ben again?
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tantek helped his sister get setup on Known
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tantek jessielikes.coffee
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KevinMarks I see ben onscreen
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tantek shows a POSSE post to Twitter
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KartikPrabhu_ ha .coffee
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tantek including a like from Twitter
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tantek favorite that is
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tantek that showed up on jessielikes.coffee
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @rascul3: I got my sister set up with a Known site at https://jessielikes.coffee (twitter.com/_/status/521415279205941249)
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tantek also getting jessielikes.coffee setup with ssl
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tantek and she has A+
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tantek also found a bug with Known regarding session
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @rascul3: I also set up brid.gy so she gets her twitter likes POSSEd back too (twitter.com/_/status/521415424794439682)
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tantek and benwerd said he'd fix it tonight
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bear congrats rascul on the A+ for your sister's site
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bear rascul++
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Loqi rascul has 23 karma
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bret nice rascul
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rascul :)
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rascul gonna work some more on the ssl stuff in due time but it's probably good enough for now
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aaronpk_ benwerd up next
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tantek benwerd:
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tantek Known now works on PHP 5.3!!!
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tantek 3 fewer dependencies
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tantek database backend has been rewritten
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gRegor` Does Known work in Lisp yet?
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tantek worked on following
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tantek trying to build a reader
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tantek interim interface
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tantek shows dev/following UI
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tantek with form for Following
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tantek enter a URL
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: Known now works on PHP 5.3 because lots of hosting only has that (twitter.com/_/status/521416439530782720)
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tantek enters erinjo.is
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tantek which works great, using microformats
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tantek shows following a site without microformats
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tantek e.g. anlidash.com
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tantek and that works too
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gRegor` So ben's demo is basically the backend for several other demos :)
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tantek uses legacy feed instead
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I rewrote the db backend and the indieauth/micropib plugin (twitter.com/_/status/521416626806489088)
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gRegor` Ooh, nice work on the following, benwerd
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tantek shows /stream on his dev site
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I added a following UI to Known that gets other people's posts in microformats (twitter.com/_/status/521416792544387072)
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tantek showing recent posts from people he's following
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I can also follow non-microformats sites too eg Anil Dash (twitter.com/_/status/521416919447257088)
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tantek currently on his dev machine but hopes to have it deployed soon
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tantek reader is attached to the known instance, your own site
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tantek therefore customize it
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: I need to add back the response and like buttons so I can read the whole web on my site (twitter.com/_/status/521417204806713344)
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tantek up next
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tantek sandro:
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tantek worked on extracting his old LiveJournal posts
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tantek and importing them to his own domain
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KevinMarks sandro twitter?
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KevinMarks (not in irc-people)
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tantek @sandhawke
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KevinMarks nice lag
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I have been extracting my old livejournal posts and posting them on my own site (twitter.com/_/status/521417756043132928)
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kylewm 8 people watching remotely, is that a record?
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aaronpk_ wow!
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kylewm aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 580 karma
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GWG kylewm: I don't know how it has gone all weekend. Earlier it was just me, but at the time, no one was talking.
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bret tantek: while we are setting up did you get a chance to check out the edits on http://indiewebcamp.com/File:Webmention_Vouch.png?
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GWG aaronpk++
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tantek sandro: worked on importing code in Go
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tantek (sorry bret - scribing :P )
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bret k
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bret np, there is lag on the video
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tantek sandro: reads XML from LiveJournal
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KevinMarks is watching
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anomalily is watching
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GWG is watching
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anomalily No pressure, you're my entertainment whilst cleaning
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tantek wanted to setup permalinks with /lj/id where id came from the LJ posts
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GWG Correction
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gRegor` is watching
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GWG is watching eagerly
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I wrote the import code in Go - on github there was code that downloaded xml for my LJ posts (twitter.com/_/status/521418211003494401)
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tantek then was going to make something to view it - and got to that point and working on next
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tantek lots of weird little things in LJ XML like music and mood
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tantek what music is currently playing
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @sandhawke: I made each of my posts correspond to an ID in livejournal and mirrored replies too (twitter.com/_/status/521418327517069312)
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KevinMarks mood can now be emoji...
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anomalily That music was a super important thing for awhile
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gRegor` p-mood
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KevinMarks (we did have mood in activity-streams)
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anomalily I remember that there was "mood icon sets" that have different represented things
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tantek up next
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anomalily So you could have only harry potter icons to represent mood or whatever
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tantek aaronpk and a cup of coffee
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KevinMarks http://activitystrea.ms/head/activity-schema.html#mood-property
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gRegor` What is mood?
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Loqi mood is sometimes expressed explicitly in or about a post, by the post author http://indiewebcamp.com/mood
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tantek was hoping to finish this thing
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tantek ( :D )
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tantek was working on a new micropub app
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tantek that goes along with Quill
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tantek which is a demo micropub app
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tantek it's for text notes
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tantek Teacup is for tracking what you eat and drink
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tantek it has a similar sign-in process to Quill
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tantek with built-in docs
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tantek when it can't find something it links out to docs showing how to do that
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tantek showing Teacup flow
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tantek sign-in - does indieauth flow
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tantek shows a list of drinks
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tantek caffeine and alcohol
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tantek and custom fields for other things
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I was making a new micropub app Teacup based on Quill https://quill.p3k.io (twitter.com/_/status/521419058068332544)
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tantek it also does browser geolocation
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tantek it has an add to homescreen button
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tantek so on his iphone it has a nice icon
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tantek when he loads on the iphone it looks like this (shows list of buttons, single column, large buttons)
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tantek shows aaronparecki.com/metrics for past
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: teacup is for tracking your drinks - it lets you choose what you are drinking now and post it (twitter.com/_/status/521419240533164033)
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tantek loads the website on his phone
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tantek taps the coffee button (sips actual coffee)
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KartikPrabhu_ lol
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tantek which loads the post
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tantek on his phone
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: it also does browser geolocation and has an "add to homescreen" button (twitter.com/_/status/521419371282169858)
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KartikPrabhu_ and the coffee into him
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GWG I've been watching this for the last week or so...I'm waiting for the graph... coffee vs. mimosas.
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KevinMarks was there an url for teacup?
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anomalily Haha. APK has so much data on mimosas and coffee
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ben_thatmust__ teacup.p3k.io
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KartikPrabhu_ is .drinks a tld?
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tantek the point here is that Teacup is a micropub endpoint
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tantek er, uses a micropub endpoint to his site
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barnabywalters lol @ “how did it know the type of cup”
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gRegor` Different icons for "drank a coffee"?
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tantek if someone logs in that doesn't have micropub
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gRegor` Hah
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tantek then Teacup offers to host
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: the app is at https://teacup.p3k.io and once you click the button it take you to the post (twitter.com/_/status/521419723385618432)
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tantek hosted account
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tantek with sign-in button
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tantek so you can sign-in with any IndieAuth
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tantek now you can use the app
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tantek now if you click drink coffee
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tantek instead of redirecting to an external site
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tantek it just stores it
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barnabywalters oooh that’s awesome
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barnabywalters aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 581 karma
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GWG Can you extract it later if you move it elsewhere?
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tantek and shows the post on teach.p3k.io/USERDOMAIN/id
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: if your site does not support micropub, the post are on teacup, not on your site (twitter.com/_/status/521419986079068160)
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tantek e.g. teacup.p3k.io/pin13.net
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tantek in this case it is acting like a silo and storing the content for you
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tantek you also get a profile page if even if your site supports micropub
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tantek with all the posts
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tantek however all the posts link out to the original copy on aaronparecki.com for example
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tantek all the teacup profiles have h-entry
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KevinMarks hm, I get an error
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tantek and the h-entry links out to your permalinks on your site if your site supports permalink
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gRegor` GWG: mf2 for export I'm guessing
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tantek lastly
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tantek he can connect his Pebble watch
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tantek has same list that was on the website
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tantek can scroll through the list
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tantek click a button
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tantek then saves it on his site
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tantek and a copy on teacup
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GWG is waiting with baited breath
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tantek was working on sign-in screen to setup the Pebble app
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kylewm huh, aaronpk is vegetarian?
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KartikPrabhu_ an actual use for a smart watch! well I'll be damned
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tantek that he's hopefully going to finish when he's on the plane
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: If you login with a non-micropub site you get a profile on teacup, otherwise it links to your posts (twitter.com/_/status/521420616046764032)
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tantek the goal of this is an indieweb friendly silo
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I also made this work on my pebble watch which is why it has buttons not type-in (twitter.com/_/status/521420740676288513)
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caseorganic aaronpk_: https://www.dropbox.com/s/h905uzkeiw6s945/Screenshot%202014-10-12%2018.08.02.png?dl=0 redirect loop upon posting a note
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gRegor` I'm always floored by indieweb creativity
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I'm making an indieweb-friendly silo, which is a big goal here (twitter.com/_/status/521420880254369793)
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aaronpk_ caseorganic: weird! I think something happened with a hashtag in the slug
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tantek up next
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caseorganic aaronpk_: makes sense
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GWG aaronpk_: That is what I imagined. Is it getting the GPS data from the phone? I haven't looked at the Pebble SDK
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tantek ben - mlncn
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barnabywalters hears stunned silence following aaronpk’s demo :)
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caseorganic aaronpk_: that's my indiewebwork. a post about backing up data
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tantek … Drupal web developer
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tantek … shocked that there isn't more involvement by Drupal community in indieweb
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tantek … doing what he can to change that
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caseorganic tantek: wow - yes
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@BillSeitz RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @aaronpk: I'm making an indieweb-friendly silo, which is a big goal here (twitter.com/_/status/521421285427916800)
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tantek … personally wants his site that everything he does gets stored on his system
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KevinMarks who's up?
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aaronpk_ kylewm: what gave it away?
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tantek … personal site is currently Drupal5 and not working
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aaronpk_ KevinMarks: mlncn
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tantek … used to do this 4-5 years ago
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aaronpk_ who is mlncn
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tantek … post here and post to Twitter and Facebook
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bret nice!
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kylewm aaronpk_: chickpea fritter ;)
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caseorganic aaronpk_: https://twitter.com/caseorganic/status/521420692013584384
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@caseorganic Public Service Announcement: Back up your data! Here's how: http://caseorganic.com/articles/2014/08/07/1/public-service-announcement-back-up-your-data-here-s-how (http://caseorganic.com/notes/2014/10/12/11/#archiving) (twitter.com/_/status/521420692013584384)
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aaronpk_ kylewm: ha
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tantek … @mlncn
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tantek … would like make Known his homebase for interacting
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tantek … goal is to push from Known to a Drupal site
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: my site is in Drupal5 - I used to post there and send out to twitter and facebook (twitter.com/_/status/521421604811976704)
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tantek … same way you can post to Twitter or Facebook
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kylewm what is Drupal?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Drupal" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=Drupal
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tantek … would like to configure Known to post to more than one Twitter, more than one Facebook, more than one Drupal
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tantek … while still keeping it easy for the 80% use-case of only one Twitter, one Facebook, etc.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: I want to push from a Known homebase to Drupal website the way you can to twitter (twitter.com/_/status/521421794105131010)
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tantek … short term goal is try to improve, make Known do everything Buffer does but better
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tantek … skipping the part that Buffer is supposed to do which is scheduling posts
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: I would like to get Kkown to post to more than one twitter/fb/drupal site too as well (twitter.com/_/status/521421941253885953)
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anomalily caseorganic: thanks for the IPRC shoutout in your post!
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GWG aaronpk_: Are you going to release the code for the Pebble app? I have an idea I don't know if I can pull off that is a simpler version of what you are doing.
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: I want to get Known to do everything that Buffer does but better (twitter.com/_/status/521422080274071552)
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tantek … first thing that I'm working is to post from Known to a Drupal 8 site.
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aaronpk_ GWG: yeah totally! it's actually surprisingly simple
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tantek … also interested in making Drupal do everything Known can do
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tantek … Drupal 8 plays much more nicely with the PHP world than Drupal 7
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tantek ...
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bear I may have to find my old "smart" watch
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @mlncn: posting from Known to a Drupal 8 site first, then working on making Drupal do what Known does (twitter.com/_/status/521422480653955072)
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tantek up next
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tantek Jesse - obra
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tantek tends to reply from Twitter on his mobile device
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GWG aaronpk_: I just would want a different menu, but the same idea of triggering a preset from the watch to my site.
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tantek showing flow
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tantek looking at a tweet
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tantek share to Known
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tantek reply to Kevin
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tantek also publish to Twitter
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tantek hoping that this works
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tantek this is an Apache Cordova app
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: I have a twitter client on my phone and tend to reply to tweets there instead (twitter.com/_/status/521422767326236673)
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tantek (Apache version of phonegap)
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tantek listens for an Android intent for share something
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tantek gets text of that
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aaronpk_ GWG: the choices are actually loaded from the teacup server
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gRegor` Oh heck yes
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tantek then launches his Known website
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aaronpk_ i plan on making that list change dynamically based on what is typed in
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tantek with the share URL
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aaronpk_ over time
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: I have an android Share hook to send to known, which also publishes to twitter (twitter.com/_/status/521422906870755328)
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KartikPrabhu_ caseorganic++ for awesome archiving post
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Loqi caseorganic has 143 karma
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gRegor` What's Apache Cordova? Couldn't hear
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tantek Cordova is like phonegap by Apache
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bear cordova is a framework for mobile apps by Apache
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: this is a tiny Cordova app that uses the android share intent, and launches my known website with the share reply page (twitter.com/_/status/521423114132262913)
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/obra/status/521422682882314240
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@obra @kevinmarks hi https://s.ly/2014/kevinmarks-hi (twitter.com/_/status/521422682882314240)
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tantek benwerd: how quickly can I get this on my phone because this is going to save me 3 hours per day
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gRegor` qǝʍǝᴉpuᴉ#
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: and here is the reply sent by my phone: https://twitter.com/obra/status/521422682882314240 (twitter.com/_/status/521423328406671360)
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anomalily Me too! Wish it was for iphone!
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bear gRegor-backtick++
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Loqi gRegor-backtick has 1 karma
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bear gRegorwithbacktick++
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Loqi gRegorwithbacktick has 1 karma
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aaronpk_ we can make an iphone version with ios 8!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @benwerd: how quickly can I get this on my phone? it will save me 3 hours a day (twitter.com/_/status/521423475781554176)
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GWG aaronpk_: Then yay
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Loqi woot
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bear gregornobacktick++
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Loqi dude
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bear hush loqi
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gRegor` Haha, karma everywhere
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anomalily Loqi doesn't like it when people are popular.
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Loqi is done
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gRegor` Loqi doesn't like backticks either :)
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bear gregornobacktick++
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Loqi gregornobacktick has 22 karma
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tantek obra: it should be a micropub client
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tantek but this was less code
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GWG The day there is an Android micropub client...
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @obra: now making a build for @benwerd - the app is called Known -I'll have to talk to @withknown about licencing (twitter.com/_/status/521424101471432704)
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GWG And an Android webactions app
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KevinMarks you could rename the app to your own site name?
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GWG We will have arrived
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tantek benwerd: it's not working for me. obra: you need https.
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gRegor` I think you need low aspirations to develop for Windows Phone
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gRegor` ;)
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KevinMarks interesting - I want to hook this up to my flowpast app as well
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barnabywalters RE watch typing/voice posts — that’s what morse code is for :)
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KevinMarks my watch can replay to tweets by voice...
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tantek up next
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KevinMarks and their android app doesn't respond to their web intents
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KevinMarks https://dev.twitter.com/web/intents
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tantek pdurbin:
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tantek made a Firefox plugin
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tantek when you go to web pages
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tantek select some text
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tantek it's going to post it via micropub on a website
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tantek just the act of selecting
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tantek proof of concept Firefox micropub client
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KevinMarks no, their app doesn't even read them, but mine does...
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pdurbin tantek: neat!
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @pdurbin: I have made a proof of concept Firefox micropub client (twitter.com/_/status/521425436941643777)
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tantek that was daf
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tantek not pdurbin
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tantek sorry for the misattribution!
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KevinMarks oops
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tantek KevinMarks: ^^^
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pdurbin tantek: oh, I thought you made it :)
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tantek oh I wish
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tantek that was awesome
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KevinMarks likewise
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KevinMarks twitter hadnle for daf
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tantek daf: first Firefox micropub client
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tantek still working on login/auth flow
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daf KevinMarks: @0xdaf
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @0xdaf: I have made a proof of concept Firefox micropub client (twitter.com/_/status/521425979567525888)
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kylewm was that "Vagrantfile for Known"?
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: we have sketched out the vouch flow now at http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (twitter.com/_/status/521426340051185664)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: because we have a growing adoption of indieweb sites and webmention, it is now a spam target (twitter.com/_/status/521426467264012290)
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bear gregornobacktick++
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pdurbin kylewm: this, maybe? https://github.com/pdurbin/known-vagrant/blob/master/Vagrantfile
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bear tantek++ I have webmention+vouch implemented in a raw form
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Loqi tantek has 97 karma
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kylewm pdurbin: ha yeah I thought I heard someone ask if there was one; I was going to post yours :)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: the way it works is that if the webmention is not form an approved url, it sends a vouch url that connects you to the host (twitter.com/_/status/521426842834972672)
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pdurbin kylewm: it's a hack but it gets the thing installed :)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @t: if we want a vouch url we return http error 449 which msft made up which means "add a parameter" (twitter.com/_/status/521427255348580352)
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KevinMarks do we have someone whose name starts with C to use?
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KevinMarks caseorganic?
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bear @tantek - my receiving implementation is 75% done
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anomalily Great demos, y'all
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@tomwiththeweath RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: we have sketched out the vouch flow now at http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (twitter.com/_/status/521428210924281856)
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@anomalily Really great demos at #indiewebcamp cambridge. Great hacking, y’all! Check them out here: https://www.youtube.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/521428328868478976)
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bear thanks again aaronpk_ for a great video feed
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@latest8pc RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: because we have a growing adoption of indieweb sites and webmention, it is now a spam target (twitter.com/_/status/521428491381014528)
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@pc8advice RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: because we have a growing adoption of indieweb sites and webmention, it is now a spam target (twitter.com/_/status/521428493394264064)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/kevinmarks/521426340051185664/521428210924281856 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (webmention)
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@bear almost completed implementing Vouch for Webmentions https://bear.im/bearlog/2014/285/implementing-webmentions-vouch #indieweb - more work after dinner (twitter.com/_/status/521429098695262209)
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bear does dinner
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aaronpk_ possibly we will have better streaming next time too :)
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barnabywalters aaronpk_: the stream quality was excellent! It only worked in That Browser With Flash though
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bret barnabywalters: there was an h264 version available too
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bret youtube provided
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barnabywalters bret: oh cool, where was it?
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bret i have a safari plugin to extract the url, its very long
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barnabywalters it wasn’t working for me on Firefox :(
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bret http://hoyois.github.io/safariextensions/clicktoplugin/
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barnabywalters nifty, thanks!
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bret I was watching in quicktime the whole time
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@invispide RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @t: we have sketched out the vouch flow now at http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (twitter.com/_/status/521430612075610112)
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@domenicoperri Vouch - IndieWebCamp http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch via Kevin Marks @kevinmarks (twitter.com/_/status/521430892431286272)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/kevinmarks/521426340051185664/521430612075610112 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (webmention)
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tantek we have the VGA to mini-DVI video adaptor (Mac connector) still here in Cambridge
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tantek that we borrowed from someone at the camp
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tantek not sure who it was!
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tantek anyone here remember?
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Loqi [mention] http://usermediablog.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/computer-scientists-at-work-indiewebcamp/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/vouch (pingback)
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@kartik_prabhu @crema glad you found @indiewebcamp you should join the discussion on the IRC channel see http://indiewebcamp.com/discuss (twitter.com/_/status/521438677197537280)
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/pwcc/520433998246322176/520436532121853953 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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Loqi [mention] https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/akikokurono-found-indiewebcamp linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/discuss (webmention)
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@domenicoperri RT @user_media: Computer scientists at work. #indiewebcamp http://usermediablog.wordpress.com/2014/10/12/computer-scientists-at-work-indiewebcamp/ (twitter.com/_/status/521441451050532865)
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@mukkukm RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @aaronpk: the app is at https://teacup.p3k.io and once you click the button it take you to the post (twitter.com/_/status/521444911791353856)
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