#indiewebcamp 2014-10-29

2014-10-29 UTC
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tantek q+ to suggest federation protocol before social API
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tantek lol wrong room
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KevinMarks_ flatjaf, snarfed I display homepage webmentions: http://www.kevinmarks.com/#webmentions
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KevinMarks_ see http://www.kevinmarks.com/#happy+birthday
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fiatjaf thank you, KevinMarks
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@gasull RT @kevinmarks: looking at Web #annotations ideas http://www.w3.org/2014/annotation/diagrams/annotation-architecture.svg from a #social point of view #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527304253027942400)
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michaelmd indieweb and federated.soc.nets interop - ideas?
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KartikPrabhu michaelmd: what do you mean? elaborate?
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michaelmd thinking about maybe writing an addon for Friendica or Redmatrix - eg for public posts/comments (but not sure about the domain stuff because such sites are usually multi-user)
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KartikPrabhu michaelmd: still don't understand. What does this have to do with indieweb?
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michaelmd just thinking it would be nice to let indieweb folk comment/use public forums/etc - no probs adding microformats but still haven't got my head around webmentions , pingbacks and auth
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michaelmd anyway got to go ,,maybe when I get home
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@Bankstil Privatsphäre: Das IndieWeb – eine leise Revolution http://www.gruenderszene.de/allgemein/indieweb via @gruenderszene (twitter.com/_/status/527370132813664256)
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@Denkstil Privatsphäre: Das IndieWeb – eine leise Revolution http://www.gruenderszene.de/allgemein/indieweb via @gruenderszene (twitter.com/_/status/527370280008572928)
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@rkeuper Privatsphäre: Das IndieWeb – eine leise Revolution http://www.gruenderszene.de/allgemein/indieweb via @gruenderszene (twitter.com/_/status/527370414868013056)
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Loqi [mention] http://mattsnyders.info/2014/h-card linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/h-card (webmention)
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jonnybarnes !tell barnabywalters have you upgraded to Yosemite yet? Messing around with getting guzzle working with sites like alpower.com (missing intermediate certs) and Yosemite's cURL now repliactes browser behaviour and just works™
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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@ShaneHudson @Smutchings I still think we can get you into the http://indiewebcamp.com mindset :P (twitter.com/_/status/527437506057617409)
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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indie-visitor hello you lovely people!
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/ShaneHudson/527437506057617409/527439921913802752 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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davidpeach Are there any CMSs out there that have been built completely with indieweb in mind? I know WordPress is great and there are many plugins for indieweb (which I use myself). But I was wondering if there was an "indieweb CMS" as it were.
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davidpeach i just discovered the projects page on indieweb. seems to answer my question
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ShaneHudson There are a few, at various stages of development
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ShaneHudson what is known
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ShaneHudson what is p3k
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "p3k" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=p3k
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Loqi Known-logo.pngKnown is an open publishing / community platform project http://indiewebcamp.com/Known
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ShaneHudson Interesting.. I don't have enough signal to load links but aaronpk wrote p3k, I think it is now fully open source but not sure
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ShaneHudson And I think there is something called indie.js too
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ShaneHudson Known is the most production ready
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GWG pfefferle: I saw the Issue discussion
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pfefferle Hey GWG
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davidpeach i was thinking of having a go at creating my own CMS as a learning thing.
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GWG pfefferle: Hello.
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pfefferle GWG I saw that you saw it ;)
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ShaneHudson davidpeach: We've all been there :) Some succeed (Tantek, Aaron and Jeremy for instance) but I just gave in and use Craft. Definitely a brilliant way to learn though
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GWG pfefferle: I still am advocating functions at the plugin level. Many things can be done at the theme level, but themes should be reserved for design elements.
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davidpeach yer. I mean, I love wordpress and the plugins that I am using are great and do what I need. But something inside me just cant help myself.
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GWG davidpeach: Good luck to you.
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pfefferle GWG me too… All funtionality should be theme independent
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davidpeach tar.
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davidpeach how is everyone btw?
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GWG pfefferle: So, I'll be moving on to Semantic Linkbacks...after I finish up a bit of a non-Indieweb home issue...my rugs disintegrated...long story.
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pfefferle GWG :)
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GWG davidpeach: Trying to get some home stuff done so I can get to some development stuff.
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GWG pfefferle: I mentioned I was away last week. I need to get back into things.
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davidpeach alas I am at work
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GWG davidpeach: I'll be there later.
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GWG davidpeach: How is your site going?
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pfefferle GWG davidpeach good luck
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GWG pfefferle: To you as well.
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GWG As Archimedes said...I could move the Earth...if I could only find a place to stand.
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davidpeach good thanks. Added a bit of custom JS to autofill twitter and facebook content share boxes on status posts i make. http://davidpeach.co.uk/autofill-share-fields-for-status-posts/
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GWG davidpeach: What was wrong with using %FULLTEXT% or %EXCERPT% for the SNAP share boxes?
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davidpeach GWG: what it was, was for on mobile. So my default for articles etc is %TITLE% %EXCERPT%. but only on status update formats I wanted the content only. So to save trying to paste the content in to the share boxes for just those, I added that bit of JS to do it for me.
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snarfed !tell michaelmd you might be interested in https://github.com/snarfed/activitystreams-unofficial (can also convert between AS and mf2 html), https://github.com/snarfed/ostatus-unofficial, etc
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG davidpeach: Okay. I had asked the developer about preset profiles and a pulldown menu. I don't think they were interested
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davidpeach fair enough
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GWG davidpeach: I still wish I could find something better than SNAP
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tgbrun I have been slowly building my site using indieweb principles. My platform is WP, and I am looking to add a 'notes' type post. Any thoughts on where to look to get started?
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davidpeach seems to be okay for me so far. One thing Ive noticed though, sometimes when I post a note, bridgy fails to see the rel-syndication link. Only sometimes. odd
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snarfed davidpeach: send me an example, I can look into it
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GWG davidpeach: Switching to Bridgy Publish is a plan I've had on my list for a while.
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davidpeach http://davidpeach.co.uk/note-1333/
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davidpeach snarfed: http://davidpeach.co.uk/note-1333/
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GWG snarfed: I'm convinced though that if there is a way for there to be a problem with Bridgy Publish...I'll find it
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snarfed GWG: of course, everything has bugs :P
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snarfed davidpeach: for syndication links to work, the post either needs to be on your home page or on an h-feed linked from it. I'm guessing that post isn't
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snarfed I'll add that to the faq
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davidpeach my header has the hfeed link that points to my notes url
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davidpeach snarfed: i use <link rel="feed" href="http://davidpeach.co.uk/notes/" type="text/html" /> in my header
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GWG snarfed: I know.
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GWG snarfed: Just saying
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snarfed davidpeach: ah ok
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snarfed davidpeach: thanks for the report, I'll look into it
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davidpeach snarfed: no probs. happy to help
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@EThompson_22 Studying for American History I #griffinpride #ownyourdata @rockECHSprin @vannabbott https://twitter.com/EThompson_22/status/527461437707681793/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/527461437707681793)
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@anomalily Another site death to add to the list: found out @43things is shutting down. At least exporting your content was easy! #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527482328096862208)
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kylewm snarfed: I got some of those weird duplicate facebook comments with colon IDs too! https://kylewm.com/2014/10/when-people-say-when-the-web-was
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bret.io uploaded /File:43thingsdown.png "A screenshot of the 43 things shutdown notice."
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bret.io edited /site-deaths (+123) "/* 2014 */" (view diff)
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bret kylewm: how intentional was your marquee tag support?
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kylewm bret: hehe, very. I had to add it to the whitelist after gRegor`'s comment
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bret lol
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GWG Back.
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aaronpk does anybody show tags/hashtags in list views of things?
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Loqi aaronpk: tantek left you a message on 10/28 at 3:45pm: just tried a real-time comment test on one of your notes http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/10/20/4/ looks like real-time comment display is semi-broken. in "realtime" it only shows the permalink (where the content should be) of the comment. when I reload your permalink then it shows the content in the comments.
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aaronpk like I'm considering how I would show the tags of each post in this list http://aaronparecki.com/bookmarks
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bret i dont, but pinboard does
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bret (which is what I bookmark with mostly)
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cweiske http://semanticscuttle.sourceforge.net/demo/
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bret nice cweiske
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aaronpk sweet
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aaronpk oh yeah I ran semantic scuttle at one point
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bret actually wait aaronpk, I do show tags waaaaay at the bottom for my recent bookmarks http://bret.io
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aaronpk oh yeah
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bret sourced from pinboard though
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cweiske aaronpk, what problems did you have with semanticscuttle?
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aaronpk ok I think I can do it by making it the same style as the line that shows the date of my posts
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bret i like muted
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bret (i bet hardly anyone clicks on them... they are mostly for me)
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aaronpk it's more like to give a little more context to things like articles and bookmarks when they're in list views
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tantek_ Am driving down in a few minutes to Santa Clara for w3c TPAC - however I'm going to miss the informal socialwg / schema meetup/discussion
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tantek_ If any of you are there (kevinmarks hadleybeeman harryh jasnell) could you take notes in the W3C IRC #social channel? Thanks!
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GWG bret, you've just got me thinking about a personal site to Pinboard sync.
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aaronpk looks like it's being documented there already
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hadleybeeman tantek_ there is meant to be a scribe...
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hadleybeeman Are you hoping for more than what lloyd_fassett is writing?
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@scottjenson @ChrisLove #indieweb could tackle this: microformat + concatenate service? Keeps blog clean but allows roll up (twitter.com/_/status/527497843163291648)
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butter "roll up" is industry-speak for what?
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butter these guys have their own language, totally opaque to those who havent been a UX Consultant in Palo Alto for 13 years
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butter "Fractal Coevolution" - a+ at branding yourself a serial-potsmoker and/or marketing-consultant
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@aaronpk @scottjenson @ChrisLove We're already seeing some of that with site-to-site comments. Ex http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/10/15/3/border-none #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527500590104838144)
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KartikPrabhu every field has their own jargon. no use being upset about it
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butter are you upset about it?
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butter bizarre feature to ascribe to a bit of textual commentary
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butter i'm not upset that 99.99% of users are happy with proprietary, centralized services. I SWEAR
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butter but Rollup might = pulling together a comment thread existing across multiple servers?
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butter wild guess. thankfully in SF i stuck to engineering meetings, not branding/marketing/ux/sales
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XgF I'm not going to complain about people chatting using a medium limited to 140chars incl. Metadata using jargon
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kylewm butter: this is not the appropriate place for a rant like that. UX is very much on topic, if you don't know what is meant by a term, ask
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KartikPrabhu kylewm: yo! did you figure out your repost display?
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@vannabbott RT @EThompson_22: Studying for American History I #griffinpride #ownyourdata @rockECHSprin @vannabbott https://twitter.com/EThompson_22/status/527461437707681793/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/527504111852208128)
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: I'm happy enough with it for now https://kylewm.com/replies
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kylewm shows full HTML for short notes, truncated plain-text for long ones
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aaronpk kylewm: nice work on reply context!
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KartikPrabhu cool
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kylewm thanks! :)
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aaronpk oh wow, just got an email that my startssl client cert is going to expire in 2 weeks and that i need to go renew it. If I let it expire, then I have no way to sign in to startssl and I essentially lose my account.
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aaronpk that seems less than ideal
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jonnybarnes yeah but its not too difficult to create a new cert
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@dundeemakespace RT @TerminalPixel: New #indieweb members learning @dundeemakespace https://twitter.com/TerminalPixel/status/524639526711754752/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/527506350801420289)
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aaronpk but you can't get into the old account
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aaronpk I guess that doesn't really matter cause you can just make new certs on a new account... hmm
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jonnybarnes no, you make a new cert in your current avvount
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jonnybarnes just use the same email address
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aaronpk wait what? doesn't that mean anyone could take over my account?
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aaronpk from the email... "Failing to update your client certificate might result in the loss of your account."
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jonnybarnes right, hang on
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jonnybarnes i reinstalled Yosemite from fresh
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jonnybarnes so i;ve just had to re-import the certificate from my backup
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jonnybarnes havent needed to login to startssl yet :P
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jonnybarnes from what I can remember, login as normal
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jonnybarnes then goto certificates wizard
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aaronpk right. but if your cert expires then you can't log in!
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jonnybarnes and then create a new S/MIME and Authentication Certificate
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aaronpk so you have to do it before your cert expires.
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jonnybarnes and then that new certificate is automatically associated with your account
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jonnybarnes yes
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aaronpk that's what i'm saying
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jonnybarnes you need to do this before your old cert expires
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aaronpk yes I know. that's my point
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aaronpk seems like a fragile system if the only access to your account is a certificate that has an expiration date. there's no backup/recovery mechanism at all.
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jonnybarnes perhaps, but it is secure...
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butter kylewm: but it's an appropriate place for a rant like [@ tantek_(:#indiewebcamp)] boy am I glad we're *not* dealing with namespace nonsense - am just following the lead here
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jonnybarnes no-one is gonna bruteforce a whole certificate
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butter nothing "nonsense" about being able to look up propertynames on the web in a data MIME-type rather than in some microformats wiki
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aaronpk butter: I would really rather not debate this, but the difference is that your comments were directed specifically at two people
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butter wlel what's hilarious, is that KartikPrabhu_ suggested i was "upset", and you suggested i "ranted"
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butter just implying all sorts of things out of thin-air
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butter not sure that's a community i want to be a part of tbh
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butter if i was directing my comment at the two people in teh tweet, i would have done so on twitter, so they saw it
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butter more a general commentary, if one can derefernce acronyms/industry-terms when possible for newcomers
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butter suppose there's some kidn of 'glossary bot' for that - how do you use it?
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butter rollup?
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aaronpk being critical of technology is productive. being openly critical of people is not productive. if you don't like that then you don't have to engage.
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aaronpk what is rollup?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rollup" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=rollup
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butter it's pretty clea you guys like microformats, and i like RDF. and you'll dismiss it in favor of something i see as more brittle/complex/less-flexible. we're probably never going to find a middle-ground
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butter i'm realy not interested in supporting all these ad-hoc socialize/twitter-clone/diaspora-related HTML glom-onns over making more robust generic POST/PUT handlers etc
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aaronpk butter: have you added yourself to http://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people yet?
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butter ut i'd rather not waste my time propagandizing stuff oy're going to hate anywyas
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butter no
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butter not into that sort of self-promotion
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aaronpk you have a personal website though right?
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butter not really. just a small txt file with some contact info
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aaronpk are you publishing RDFa on your website?
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butter whatever MIME types RDF.rb supports. so probably 15 or 20
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aaronpk what is your interest in indiewebcamp if you don't have much of a personal website?
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butter the indie part
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butter offering an alternative to mainframe (google/yahoo/fb/twitter) for typical tasks
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kylewm butter: some of us are particularly invested in one markup over another, I'd guess most are pragmatically using whichever lets us/them do what we/they want to do. if you want to debate microformats, #microformats
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kylewm would be more amenable
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butter yeah. MIME agnosticism is well built into HTTP/1.1
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butter ie, i'd like to add mf2 support to my tools, at least on ingestion-side
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butter which is why i'll listen and watch and hopefluly add code
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butter whatever formats people want...
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Guest24091 i'm not terribly pleased with complexity in the RDF community either . a lot of PhDs who don't mind completely overengineered libraries.tools
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Guest24091 then simple things like Talis's JSON format was overlooked for JSON-LD.. which rewuires 200K of Ruby code just to handle all the preprocessing one can do - ugh http://www.w3.org/TR/json-ld-api/
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KevinMarks "And RDF rises lurching out of the grave to infect the brains of another generation of young developers." https://web.archive.org/web/20140908122951/http://blog.pinboard.in/2011/11/the_social_graph_is_neither/
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aaronpk wait what happened to the pinboard blog? why is it down?
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KevinMarks dunno, I asked maciej on twitter
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snarfed kylewm: re the fb ids with colons…weird, right? wish i could find anyone else who also reported seeing it
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aaronpk snarfed: btw I figured out what happened with the bad webmention I sent you the other day. It's my streaming twitter search being a little over agressive about sending myself webmentions :)
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snarfed aaronpk: ahh interesting
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@LifeHealthDiary Sovereignty, Privacy, your medical information longer being a source of advertising http://lifetimehealthdiary.com #OwnYourData jg (twitter.com/_/status/527522833363398656)
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@dsearls @kevinmarks @t #IIW is missing the #Indieweb voice right now. One of you coming by? (twitter.com/_/status/527523542884040704)
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@kevinmarks @dsearls @t you have @benwerd and @erinjo there get them to talk - trouble is that it is wc3 #TPAC this week too #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527523926071468032)
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@benwerd @dsearls @kevinmarks @t @erinjo We'll be demoing later and planning on running a full indieweb session tomorrow. (twitter.com/_/status/527524540008513536)
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kylewm !tell snarfed it looks like bridgy posse post discovery is failing for davidpeach because it's looking for facebook.com/100007946553014/... where he publishes rel-syndication links like /www.facebook.com/david.peach.1884/...
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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davidpeach anyone using SNAP plugin out there?
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GWG davidpeach: Do I count?
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davidpeach hehe. of course
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davidpeach just saying that I am currently editing my copy of it to enable twitter reply to's from when creating a new post. gonna document changes so can share if interested? Unless you've all ready got it working of course.
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Loqi [mention] https://brient.net/bookmark/ec40fadb48670f96d73d737e77e29005/http-indiewebcampcom- linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
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cr rebuttable stuff in maciej post "One big sticking point is privacy. Do I really want to find out that my pastor and I share the same dominatrix? " -> http://www.w3.org/wiki/WebAccessControl
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cr "a graph is a static thing, with no concept of time." -> http://www.mementoweb.org/ (and WARC replay stuff)
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@freemydataco Just set up a directory to help you export your data and content from social networks: http://freemydata.co #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527542796597469184)
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@benwerd Export your data from the cloud! We set up an easy-to-use guide to show you how: http://freemydata.co/ #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527544743870226432)
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@jpstacey RT @benwerd: Export your data from the cloud! We set up an easy-to-use guide to show you how: http://freemydata.co/ #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527545021520969728)
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@ShaneHudson RT @benwerd: Export your data from the cloud! We set up an easy-to-use guide to show you how: http://freemydata.co/ #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527545072536272899)
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aaronpk I just manually posted a retweet from my site! first one! http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/10/29/1/indieweb
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jonnybarnes wooo
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aaronpk (with manual syndication to twitter!)
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jonnybarnes did you get your startssl cert sorted btw?
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@fabien_gandon fragmention extension to URL to link and cite individual words or phrases of a document http://indiewebcamp.com/fragmention #semweb #linkeddata (twitter.com/_/status/527547319965597696)
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aaronpk yeah I did make a new cert and logged in with it to double check it worked
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@davidmead RT @benwerd: Export your data from the cloud! We set up an easy-to-use guide to show you how: http://freemydata.co/ #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527550651577147393)
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@gasull W3C Annotation Architecture proposal http://www.w3.org/2014/annotation/diagrams/annotation-architecture.svg #indieweb Cc: @tripu @ampajaro via @kevinmarks (twitter.com/_/status/527550764953399296)
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jonnybarnes awesomes
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jonnybarnes so that note, aaronpk, did you RT it nativerly on twitter, then add a repost on your site (or vica-verca)
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aaronpk I actually made the repost first on my laptop copy of my site, then RT'd on twitter to get my RT's tweet ID, put that into my laptop copy, then pushed the post up to aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk so question, if you go to my home page, is it obvious that is a repost?
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@RealEstateCafe RT @benwerd: Export your data from the cloud! We set up an easy-to-use guide to show you how: http://freemydata.co/ #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527552122783813632)
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aaronpk and obvious that it's not something I wrote?
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joskar aaronpk: As someone who is not quite familiar with reposts in general I must say that I was confused for a little while
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joskar Perhaps because I don't see any icon for the post
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joskar (only a tiny twitter icon, which I at first thought was some syndication thing)
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aaronpk no icon?
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aaronpk maybe it's less clear because the profile photo for @freemydataco is not a photo?
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: the only possible indicator seems to be the avatar of the original poster, but your other posts don't have your photo on them so it is not a pattern on your site
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Mark87 aaronpk I would say its definitely not obvious. The only explicit clue is the grayed out, shrunk font timestamp that includes the word "reposted" surrounded by long timestamps
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joskar aaronpk: I see no "photo" for the post, only a small twitter icon in the lower right corner of where the "photo" is supposed to be
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aaronpk I am thinking about putting some sort of banner thing in the top right corner like I do on my RSVPs. http://aaron.pk/r4Wm3
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aaronpk joskar: oh weird, sounds like a missing image for some reason. you should see this there: http://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/527544132026122240/YQNEokgS_normal.png
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aaronpk hm yeah, I chose to leave off my photo/name on my own notes because it seemed redundant to have my face everywhere.
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KartikPrabhu yeah, but now the "here is the author photo" is not a pattern on your site and so it doesn't work on the repost
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joskar aaronpk: Yes, if I follow the picture from the source code I can see it, but it is not embedded on the page
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@domenicoperri Free My Data | Download and archive social media data http://freemydata.co/ #ID #indieweb #usermedia #invispide (twitter.com/_/status/527554065237286912)
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aaronpk joskar: i'm assuming that's a temporary glitch and that everyone else sees this: http://aaronparecki.com/uploads/aaronpk-repost-example-20141029-131442.png
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joskar aaronpk: https://joskar.se/img/aaronpk_repost.png
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aaronpk very weird
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aaronpk oh maybe it's an ssl thing? did you go to the ssl version of my site?
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joskar https makes no difference
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aaronpk i'm just gonna blame gremlins
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aaronpk and assume it'll be fixed once I start serving local versions of peoples' profile photos
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joskar aaronpk: Most likely :)
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joskar I've started doing that now, btw :)
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aaronpk oh nice!
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joskar Oh, for the record I am using Firefox 29, if that is the problem with viewing the icon on the repost
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cr my PM isntalled firefox35 or something
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snarfed kylewm: interesting. so that's a second ppd failure for him. arguably user error, but we should probably improve docs. (check your direct irc msgs for the other one.)
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Loqi snarfed: kylewm left you a message 1 hour, 52 minutes ago: it looks like bridgy posse post discovery is failing for davidpeach because it's looking for facebook.com/100007946553014/... where he publishes rel-syndication links like /www.facebook.com/david.peach.1884/...
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: I actually don't see the Twitter bird!
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snarfed kylewm: although I thought we already normalize fb usernames to ids in syndication urls
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aaronpk KartikPrabhu: lol wtf
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aaronpk well i'm not actually too concerned about the twitter bird, cause it wouldn't be there if I reposted someone's non-twitter post
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KartikPrabhu yeah. I see the avatar for freemydataco but no superimposed Twitter bird
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KartikPrabhu but that is weird
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aaronpk what browser?
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aaronpk and do you see it if you turn it off and back on again? (refresh)
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@dgd7 RT @benwerd: Export your data from the cloud! We set up an easy-to-use guide to show you how: http://freemydata.co/ #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527556802536546304)
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KevinMarks https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/527556916273098752
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@kevinmarks It's the 45th anniversary of the internet and the 30th of the web. Here's #myfirstwebpage http://www.kevinmarks.com/myfirstwebsite.html where's yours? (twitter.com/_/status/527556916273098752)
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: this is the latest Firefox. And it appears for one moment when I restart browser and then disappears!
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aaronpk that's bizarre
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aaronpk must be a css thing
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KartikPrabhu some sort of CSS reflow thing
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KartikPrabhu well that Twitter bird is not a big problem
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ben_thatmustbeme phew work finally starting to slow down again
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joskar Does anyone know if there are any copyright implications of cross-domain reposting?
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ben_thatmustbeme i can get back to my project of getting to work on my contacts manager code
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joskar Or is a note too small of a work to be "copyrightable"?
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aaronpk amused that this domain popped up after a quick search http://www.canyoucopyrightatweet.com
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aaronpk short answer: it's complicated
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joskar figured as much :)
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aaronpk short, more helpful answer: probably no, but there may be some instances of <140-char text that are protectable by copyright
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@kevinmarks Live now on TWiG with @leolaporte @jeffjarvis @ginatrapani http://live.twit.tv talking #indieweb and #myfirstwebpage among other things (twitter.com/_/status/527558992504315904)
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GWG KevinMarks is talking about Indieweb again? Good
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kylewm snarfed: davidpeach: is it that the facebook posts in question are non-public?
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davidpeach not sure. Ill take a look when I get a sec. thanks.
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kylewm davidpeach: sorry I was wrong. thought it was a facebook-only issue
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kylewm davidpeach: for now, you should add u-url to your permalink links on http://davidpeach.co.uk/notes/ ... that way bridgy will fetch each permalink looking for the syndication url. in the future i'll fix it so that it doesn't have to fetch the permalink if the syndication url is available right there in the feed
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davidpeach okie doke thanks.
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kylewm https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/306 for reference
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@marcedavis RT @benwerd: Export your data from the cloud! We set up an easy-to-use guide to show you how: http://freemydata.co/ #iiw #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527569045856350208)
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kylewm hmm, you can't Mute promoted tweets
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aaronpk interesting
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aaronpk instagram handles that well and lets you remove promoted posts, then asks you why. either "I don't like this post" or "I don't like this account"
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@tomwiththeweath nice @withknown demo at #iiw showing provisioning from school with your own domain #indieweb https://twitter.com/tomwiththeweath/status/527573189254471680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/527573189254471680)
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@benwerd RT @tomwiththeweath: nice @withknown demo at #iiw showing provisioning from school with your own domain #indieweb https://twitter.com/tomwiththeweath/status/527573189254471680/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/527575177698504705)
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michielbdejong.com created /events/2014-10-29-hwc-lisbon/ (+5396) "Created page with "'''Homebrew Website Club (HWC) Lisbon meetup 29 Oct 2014''' present: Pierre, Jose, Mirjam, Michiel. Michiel asks how we can get more people interested in this meetup, and how (..."" (view diff)
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@djp1974 The Great Web 1.0 Revival http://gizmodo.com/the-great-web-1-0-revival-1651487835 The answer is not code nostalgia but the #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/527584937801547778)
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tantek good afternoon #indiewebcamp
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aaronpk hello!
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tantek am still in Santa Clara at W3C TPAC
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tantek I finally got the "Add to Home Screen" animated drop-down thingie working on my contact.html page!
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tantek so much fiddling
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