#indiewebcamp 2014-12-02

2014-12-02 UTC
KartikPrabhu, KevinMarks__, carlo_au, KevinMarks_ and indie-visitor joined the channel
#
Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
jancborchardt, carlo_au, chrissaad, shiflett and jacus joined the channel
#
KevinMarks I mean that the ToC pattern guarantees there will be 2 matches in the page for the topic heading, so the fragmention will find the first
#
JonathanNeal Oh, I thought we have a mechanism for that.
benwerd, pauloppenheim and brianloveswords joined the channel
#
KevinMarks https://twitter.com/mistydemeo/status/538408059458961408
#
@mistydemeo “We’re not going to wake up to find out that traditional systems have been magically converted to triplestores” - @gmcharlt #c4lbc (twitter.com/_/status/538408059458961408)
benjamin-agaric, colintedford, pauloppenheim, chrissaad, KartikPrabhu, brianloveswords, mdik_, GWG, catsup, snarfed and gRegor` joined the channel
#
@chrismessina @timbwalsh you can @joindiaspora or support the #indieweb movement (and I encourage that), but how does that help the mainstream? (twitter.com/_/status/539621694697009152)
chrissaad joined the channel
#
bret aaronpk: are you the one behind http://questo.email/ ?
KartikPrabhu, j12t, caseorganic, chrissaad, yakker, GWG, acidwarp, brianloveswords, snarfed, wolftune, snarfed1 and cweiske joined the channel
#
snarfed.org edited /webmention.io (+733) "how to fix libxml-ruby/libxml2 incompatibility" (view diff)
thedod joined the channel
#
cweiske.de edited /Why_web_sign-in (+4) "/* Why not consume OpenID */ service is indieauth.com, not indieauth itself" (view diff)
#
@ade_oshineye @scottjenson that’s the price you pay for being #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/539688557548683266)
loic_m, nagaway, j12t, GWG, KartikPrabhu, krendil, KevinMarks__, friedcell, benwerd and alexhartley joined the channel
#
@adactioLinks as days pass by — Enabling Webmentions http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2014/11/29/enabling-webmentions/ (twitter.com/_/status/539709407861673984)
krendil, agaric, Sebastien-L, Pierre-O, chrissaad, stream7, KartikPrabhu and cweiske joined the channel
#
post-by-email uploaded /File:20141202-104014.pdf "Uploaded via email by convener.icic_9 <convener.icic*@*ep.ac.in>"
Pierre-O1, adactio, Pierre-O2, Pierre-O3, friedcell1, Pierre-O, eschnou, j12t, petermolnar, friedcell and freegrep joined the channel
#
freegrep I'm having a problem with the GPG verification on indieauth.com. It is telling me "The key used to sign the challenge was not the key at http://grepular.com/0018461F.pub.asc" - Except, I'm pretty sure I'm signing the challenge correctly. Does anyone here work on indieauth.com or can point me in the direction of someone who does?
#
KartikPrabhu freegrep: you should talk to aaronpk. he rund indieauth.com
#
freegrep Thanks. Anyone have an email address for him, or should I just wait for him to pop up on IRC?
#
freegrep Never mind. Found his details here: http://aaronparecki.com/contact
#
Pierre-O freegrep: you can use the !tell username command (and the bot will drop the message to username when he/she is online)
#
KartikPrabhu what Pierre-O said
loic_m joined the channel
#
freegrep Useful to know. I've sent him an email now though
#
freegrep Thanks everyone
reederz and Garbee joined the channel
#
@dkmj RT @kevinmarks: “We’ve set up a Wiki, called the File Formats Wiki.” - @textfiles #indieweb http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4445 (twitter.com/_/status/539752942937853952)
krendil, brianloveswords, Sebastien-L, j12t, friedcell and cweiske joined the channel
#
loic_m hi there. I will give a talk this month at a local meetup to introduce the indieweb. Are there already any available materials to start with, in order to make my slides?
veselosky joined the channel
#
@donkos RT @kevinmarks: “We’ve set up a Wiki, called the File Formats Wiki.” - @textfiles #indieweb http://ascii.textfiles.com/archives/4445 (twitter.com/_/status/539783039497560065)
shiflett, danlyke and Pierre-O joined the channel
#
tantek.com deleted /File:20141202-104014.pdf "Spam: Looks suspicious. PDF from random email. Can we block PDF uploads in particular?"
GWG, j12t, sandro, reedstrm, yakker, arlen, brianloveswords, andrunix and jonnybarnes joined the channel
#
tommorris heh https://twitter.com/PHP_CEO/status/478537563163357184
#
@PHP_CEO EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE THAT $COMPANY HAS BEEN ACQUIRED! WE SET OUT TO CHANGE THE WORLD OF $X NOW FUCK YOU WE’RE SHUTTING IT ALL DOWN TOMORROW (twitter.com/_/status/478537563163357184)
#
jonnybarnes so ZNC won't connect to freenode at the moment
#
ben_thatmustbeme loic_m not that i know of, you can check the wiki. Might be a cool thing to add though
#
@ericaavey WOO @23andMe just launched in the U.K.! Health and ancestry. Take that, @USFDA. :) #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/539801240775819265)
#
@ericaavey WOO @23andMe just launched in the U.K.! Health and ancestry. Take that, @US_FDA. :) #ownyourdata (twitter.com/_/status/539801466362273792)
mlncn, friedcell and tilgovi joined the channel
#
tantek.com edited /own_your_data (+362) "edit thedod's entry to focused listing of what "instead of what silo" and what post types, move other details to user page" (view diff)
emmak joined the channel
#
tantek.com edited /User:Dubiousdod.org (+1080) "moved ownyourdata details beyond "instead of what silo" and what post types here - good to keep track of all this on a user page" (view diff)
GWG joined the channel
#
tantek.com edited /posts (+12) "/* Kinds of Posts */ venue is posted by one person" (view diff)
#
tantek.com edited /own_your_data (+21) "/* Per Post Type */ link specifically to kinds" (view diff)
wolftune and snarfed joined the channel
#
tantek.com edited /Falcon (+389) "/* Indie Checkins */ Note venue itch in particular as useful on its own even before checkins, though related so keep in same section" (view diff)
#
@sil @brucel I don't have comments any more :) Except webmentions, which are different (twitter.com/_/status/539809393437847553)
#
kylewm loic_m: tantek and caseorganic have published a ton of CC-BY slides. here is a recent one http://tantek.com/presentations/2014/05/indieweb/
chalettu, gRegor` and GWG joined the channel
#
gRegor` Morning, indieweb
EFF-Stephen joined the channel
#
GWG Morning, gRegor
#
Loqi GWG: ben_thatmustbeme left you a message 1 day ago: I don't think they are going to backport that fix back to 1.9.3 it looks like only 2.0 on
#
GWG !tell ben_thatmustbeme: I think aaronpk is looking to upgrade
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
#
ben_thatmustbeme cool
#
ben_thatmustbeme hey Loqi. give me my message
#
Loqi who, me?
#
ben_thatmustbeme oh, you put a colon
#
GWG ben_thatmustbeme: https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/issues/78
#
GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Autocomplete
#
GWG Also, this suggestion I sent in might interest you
#
ben_thatmustbeme i always end up putting a comma
#
GWG https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth/issues/77
#
ben_thatmustbeme wow, that SNI bug is being blamed for a lot
#
GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Glad my issue is helping others
j12t and amblin joined the channel
#
kylewm We're most likely *not* having HWC in SF tomorrow (since it looks like it'd just be me). I'm still up for it, let me know if anyone wants to meet up!
#
kylewm.com edited /events/2014-12-03-homebrew-website-club (+55) "/* Where */" (view diff)
#
kylewm.com edited /events/2014-12-03-homebrew-website-club (+2) "/* Where */ fix indent" (view diff)
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme GWG: it was a pretty odd corner case, but still it should have been caught long before now
#
ben_thatmustbeme thought ruby devs claimed it may be openssl's fault
#
ben_thatmustbeme but i don't think so
chrissaad and tilgovi joined the channel
#
GWG I'm working on my server migration, or trying to.
#
GWG Site is moving to a new server
Pea1 joined the channel
#
ben_thatmustbeme new server? you going to be the only service on there?
#
ben_thatmustbeme err host*
#
ben_thatmustbeme in other words is this to get rid of SNI issues you are having?
#
GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Not exactly.
#
GWG ben_thatmustbeme: Regrettably, I also host a website for my niece's school...they have an SSL cert for an annual fundraiser.
#
@jkphl @adactio @aaronpk Happy to see u guys running an @indiewebcamp @btconf next year — pls let me know if you need some organizational support! (twitter.com/_/status/539828855687888896)
#
aaronpk good morning
davidmead joined the channel
#
GWG aaronpk: Morning, aaronpk
#
aaronpk uhh... if you're gonna send me a PGP-encoded email, at least help me decode it by giving me a link to your website or even better, a tool to verify the signature
iboxifoo joined the channel
#
aaronpk I feel bad cause this guy sent me two emails that are PGP encoded so he clearly wants to say somethin
#
aaronpk but I open it in Inbox and it just wants me to download the unnamed "File" attachment
reedstrm joined the channel
#
aaronpk if I "show original" in Gmail then I can see the PGP encrypted attachment
KevinMarks, brianloveswords and j12t joined the channel
#
aaronpk oh hey turns out it's encrypted with *my* public key
#
aaronpk save attachment -> gpg -d msg.asc -> plaintext!
snarfed joined the channel
#
jonnybarnes wow composer has got crazy fast today
#
jonnybarnes https://github.com/composer/composer/commit/ac676f47f7bbc619678a29deae097b6b0710b799
#
jonnybarnes aaronpk: isnt that how PGP is meant to work? I send you an email encoded with your public key
#
aaronpk yes, it's just a horrible unusable mess
#
aaronpk even Google's Inbox made no attempt at making it more usuable, and that was a ground-up rewrite of an email interface
#
snarfed.org edited /webmention.io (+168) "Gemfile.lock todo" (view diff)
#
@TheRealDod @SebMln This is funny on so many levels, but #TIL twitter had a “don’t let them RT me” feature. Da fug? #Indiewebcamp FTW (twitter.com/_/status/539839349341573120)
KevinMarks, KevinMarks_, brianloveswords, fiatjaf, j12t, tantek, reedstrm, chrissaad and mlncn joined the channel
#
jonnybarnes hey tantek, will notes on your site ever have clickable hashtags?
#
tantek checks /Falcon#Working_On
#
Loqi tantek: cweiske left you a message 1 day, 11 hours ago: did you highlight "They were quite inefficient" but not the following "old scripts" in http://indiewebcamp.com/feed#HubMed ?
#
Loqi tantek: elf-pavlik left you a message 1 day, 3 hours ago: : evanpro asked if someone could present MicroPub during Social WG telecon tomorrow: http://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-socialweb/2014Dec/0000.html
#
jonnybarnes lol, lets do the Loqi dance :)
#
tantek !tell cweiske I highlighted what was relevant to the termination of feed file support, the inefficiency, and implied tax of updating or maintaining that *separate* code path for generating a side file from generating the real world HTML that people actually read / use on a day to day basis.
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
#
@dmlresearchhub Join us Fri @ 9AM PT for some #ccourses webinar awesomeness! http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #Indieweb https://twitter.com/dmlresearchhub/status/539860379757989888/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/539860379757989888)
KevinMarks and richardlitt joined the channel
#
tantek !tell elf-pavlik re: presenting MicroPub during Social WG telcon - aaronpk is on it: http://socialwg.indiewebcamp.com/irc/social/2014-12-02#t1417546701903
#
Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
#
KevinMarks do we have a homebrew in sf this week?
#
tantek.com edited /Falcon (+398) "/* Itches */ linked hashtags" (view diff)
#
tantek KevinMarks: what does the wiki say?
#
KevinMarks computer say no
#
tantek jonnybarnes: added: http://indiewebcamp.com/Falcon#linked_hashtags :)
#
KevinMarks ah, 'cos you're in portland and Ben is off to London
#
tantek KevinMarks - would you like to co-organize one with other SF co-organizers?
#
tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Established_Meetings
#
tantek try pinging kylewm and snarfed
#
@IndieHosters RT @dmlresearchhub: Join us Fri @ 9AM PT for some #ccourses webinar awesomeness! http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #Indieweb https://twitter.com/dmlresearchhub/status/539860379757989888/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/539862310081560576)
#
KevinMarks given what a pain it was to get to SF today in all this rain, I may take a "rain check" as americans say
#
danlyke_ KevinMarks, if you're North Bay we could save ourselves the hassle of the Golden Gate Bridge...
#
KevinMarks I'm San Jose, so another layer of hassle
#
KevinMarks I drove to avoid cycling in the rain, but that was not a great idea
#
@jimgroom RT @dmlresearchhub: Join us Fri @ 9AM PT for some #ccourses webinar awesomeness! http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #Indieweb https://twitter.com/dmlresearchhub/status/539860379757989888/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/539863163014217728)
KevinMarks_, brianloveswords, chrissaad and mlncn-agaric joined the channel
#
kylewm KevinMarks: danlyke_: I may have canceled prematurely, thought it was just going to be me. I'm fighting a little bit of a sore throat and wouldn't be sad to miss, but if you guys want to meet, I will! we could also do a satellite thing with PDX if they are amenable
KevinMarks joined the channel
#
KevinMarks Check out @Carnage4Life's Tweet: https://twitter.com/Carnage4Life/status/539868975187099649?s=09
#
@Carnage4Life Just accidentally clicked on an XML file. 😱https://twitter.com/CommitStrip/status/532277930656030721/photo/1 #visualstudio #programming #funny (twitter.com/_/status/539868975187099649)
#
KevinMarks Rss antipattern?
#
aaronpk hahaha
#
Loqi awesome
#
bret lol
#
bret (Sub in Xcode for visual studio)
#
@TheCLAlliance RT @dmlresearchhub: Join us Fri @ 9AM PT for some #ccourses webinar awesomeness! http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #Indieweb https://twitter.com/dmlresearchhub/status/539860379757989888/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/539871389843746818)
#
jonnybarnes does anyone find photos really hard to view in the web browser
#
jonnybarnes I want to zoom into that comic
#
jonnybarnes instead im squinting at it
#
bret i clicked on it to make it big
#
danlyke_ kylewm KevinMarks I don't have any progress and am armpit deep in a bathroom remodel, so really shouldn't this week.
caseorganic, shiflett, chrissaad, eschnou, davidmead and krendil joined the channel
#
jonnybarnes does anyone use linux here? can you tell me why when i enter my correct password its accepted nearly instantly, but if i mistype it, theres several seconds before its rejected?
brianloveswords joined the channel
#
aaronpk http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/2126/why-is-there-a-big-delay-after-entering-a-wrong-password
tantek, amblin and mlncn-agaric joined the channel
#
reedstrm jonnybarnes: "does anyone use linux here" C|N>K aaronpk beat me to a ref. w/ the correct answer
#
jonnybarnes thanks for the reply
#
jonnybarnes makes sense actually
#
finchd windows does that too actually, but goes up from a smaller value
#
kylewm what is C|N>K?
#
Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "C|N>K" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=C%7CN%3EK
#
reedstrm If it's your own machine, you can tweak it, in /etc/pam.d/login (at least, that's where it is on ubuntu: pam_faildelay.so
#
reedstrm Ah, mu usenet background is showing :-)
#
reedstrm s/mu/my/
#
Loqi reedstrm meant to say: Ah, my usenet background is showing :-)
#
reedstrm Coffee, piped through Nose, deposited on Keyboard. In unix shell pipeline.
#
kylewm lol, definitely not what I was thinking
#
@digisim RT @dmlresearchhub: Join us Fri @ 9AM PT for some #ccourses webinar awesomeness! http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #Indieweb https://twitter.com/dmlresearchhub/status/539860379757989888/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/539886915198406656)
#
@smstagner RT @digisim: RT @dmlresearchhub: Join us Fri @ 9AM PT for some #ccourses webinar awesomeness! http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #Indieweb http://t.c… (twitter.com/_/status/539888995430588416)
#
jonnybarnes does anyone else do this? Im thinking of automatically adding abbr to my notes, so if I say FWIW itd get turned into <abbr title="For What Its Worth">FWIW</abbr>
#
jonnybarnes would that be the correct use of the abbr tag?
tantek, richardlitt_, Garbee, mlncn-agaric and chrissaad joined the channel
#
bear according to http://html5doctor.com/the-abbr-element/ - yes
friedcell joined the channel
#
snarfed.org edited /webmention.io () "(-770) /* Developing */ drop libxml-ruby troubleshooting; aaronpk fixed it (maybe unknowingly) in https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/commit/20413b2" (view diff)
mlncn-agaric, petermolnar, chrissaad and shiflett joined the channel
#
@t Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3) (twitter.com/_/status/539905950308925440)
#
@jon_pratty RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3) (twitter.com/_/status/539906260020506624)
#
@eraycakir RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3) (twitter.com/_/status/539906398596128768)
#
@dangillmor RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3) (twitter.com/_/status/539906553910808576)
lukebrooker joined the channel
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/539905950308925440/539906260020506624 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/539905950308925440/32124032 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
@dnm54 RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3) (twitter.com/_/status/539907667436007424)
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/539905950308925440/539906553910808576 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/539905950308925440/9500242 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/539905950308925440/539906398596128768 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
richardlitt and indie-visitor joined the channel
#
Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/t/539905950308925440/539908279917236224 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
jokudasa_, KartikPrabhu, tantek and benjamin-agaric joined the channel
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/539905950308925440/14085538 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
@t Most of my work @Mozilla is as a "steward of the web platform" * @W3CAB @CSS3UI http://www.w3.org/wiki/SocialWG * @IndieWebCamp (ttk.me t4ZS4) (twitter.com/_/status/539914594903289858)
KevinMarks, veselosky and benjamin-agaric joined the channel
#
@OnlineCrsLady RT @digisim: RT @dmlresearchhub: Join us Fri @ 9AM PT for some #ccourses webinar awesomeness! http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #Indieweb http://t.c… (twitter.com/_/status/539921218611458048)
#
@jmckenty RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3) (twitter.com/_/status/539922575321612289)
tantek joined the channel
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/twitter/t/539905950308925440/539922445633744897 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/repost/twitter/t/539905950308925440/539922575321612289 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
bret a nice positive response from winer. good to see that
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/539905950308925440/80523 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
aaronpk what? where?
tantek joined the channel
#
bret https://twitter.com/davewiner/status/539922445633744897
#
@davewiner @t @mmayo -- I like that way of putting it -- Internet of Me. ;-) (twitter.com/_/status/539922445633744897)
#
aaronpk :)
tantek joined the channel
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/539905950308925440/644593 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/539905950308925440/1004053002 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (webmention)
#
snarfed hey aaronpk, you mentioned maybe upgrading to ruby 2. do you already know of any incompatibilities in the webmention.io codebase? or do you just think there might be?
pauloppenheim joined the channel
#
aaronpk no clue
#
snarfed ok thx
#
aaronpk hm I have 2.1.3 installed, i can check real quick
#
aaronpk chruby++
#
Loqi chruby has 2 karma
#
snarfed aaronpk: feel free to ignore, i think i figured out my issue and it's not ruby 2
#
aaronpk I just installed it on ruby 2 and looks like it worked!
#
snarfed nice!
#
@miklb I should really find some paying work. Currently in an ADD mode of bouncing from parsing JSON in Python to php implementation of webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/539931471188725760)
#
aaronpk that's promising