#indiewebcamp 2014-12-03

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snarfed aaronpk: do you use DataMapper.auto_migrate or auto_upgrade to create the wm.io schema? or did you originally do it by hand and it hasn't changed? or…?
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aaronpk i used datamapper stuff
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aaronpk i believe it's db:bootstrap
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@djp1974 RT @t: Internet of things? Not interesting. Internet of me? Interesting @mmayo ->Web of me ->#indieweb http://indiewebcamp.com (ttk.me t4ZS3) (twitter.com/_/status/539934233599291393)
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snarfed aha in the rakefile. thanks
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aaronpk yup. sorry, is that not in the readme?
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aaronpk apparently not. darn.
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snarfed i'll send a PR with setup instructions
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aaronpk snarfed++
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aaronpk gotta run! thanks for poking at this!
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j12t When's the next SF homebrew? Not tomorrow?
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bret it can be if you want!
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KevinMarks we're all saying "there isn't one" and not going...
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KevinMarks (partly 'cos tantek is out of town and we don't have moz)
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bret ok we will make portland super cool
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tantek KevinMarks: kylewm's backup venue of "The Creamery" near 4th & Townsend is a good one too
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bret emmak: you should come!
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bret tallpaul: you too!
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bret and all the other regs who are not in irc
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bret ill look up their twitters/sites
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bret caseorganic: eh eh? HWC tomorrow?
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caseorganic bret: hey there! i'm busy recovering from a bad cold
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caseorganic bret: otherwise i'd love to stop by!
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Loqi caseorganic: tantek left you a message 2 weeks, 1 day ago: aaron, bret, case (the ABC's of IndieWeb PDX ;) ) could one or more of you pick a space to host HWC this week 2014-10-22 in PDX and add to wiki? http://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-10-22-homebrew-website-club#Where Thanks much!
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caseorganic bret: there will be good people there though. tantek is in town!
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bret caseorganic: oh noes. feel better!
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caseorganic bret: thanks. i'm going to get a flu shot. got one last year and had no issues at all
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gRegor` KartikPrabhu: On for HWC tomorrow?
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KartikPrabhu yup
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KartikPrabhu rsvping now
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kartikprabhu.com edited /events/2014-12-03-homebrew-website-club (+13) "/* RSVP */ me me" (view diff)
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gRegor` Sweet. Hoping I can actually make some progress tomorrow.
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KartikPrabhu me too
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@davidpeach1 Can anybody point me to examples of using @jekyllrb with #indieweb but with auto-syndication? thanks! (twitter.com/_/status/540108397673451520)
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@denials Can't stop thinking about annotations on annotations from different endpoints like hypothesis.is - federation? @dwhly #swib14 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/540135484627120128)
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gRegor` Morning, indieweb
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kylewm howdy gRegor`
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gRegor` Hey Kyle
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gRegor` Hah, that's new. Got a spam comment linking to a youtube video about office space in SF. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZtUpaaioqs
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Pierre-O clap clap :) First spam on WebMention?
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gRegor` No, it's a local comment.
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gRegor` I'm just baffled that it appears to be an actual business.
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gRegor` Though the text is the typical BS "great article! blah blah blah"
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gRegor` http://gregorlove.com/2014/10/1190/#c5006
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@sphaero Just out of own needs. A poor man's #dropbox using #unison. Works great :) http://www.sphaero.org/blog:poor_man_s_dropbox_using_incrond_and_unison #OwnYourData (twitter.com/_/status/540171997922488320)
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petermolnar unison, brrr
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Pierre-O Yes, typical spam, I think that the first spam on webmention will mean "it is popular"
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petermolnar Pierre-O not webmention spam, local comment through webmention spam
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gRegor` Yeah, my site still accepts local comments - comment form at the bottom.
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petermolnar I've turned that off a while ago; yesterday the whole xmlrpc as well after a friends site I'm hosting collected 2k pingback spam within a week...
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gRegor` Since I fixed the Akismet plugin a couple weeks ago, this is the only one that's gotten through
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gRegor` xmlrpc--
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gRegor` pingback--
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gRegor` Definitely have those turned off :)
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petermolnar akismet was working fine, leaving the spam folder with 2k messages there, so pingback spam is more an annoyance than a real threat
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petermolnar kind of sad though
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petermolnar wonder how long it's going to take to have real spam with webmention
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Pierre-O this is where we'll see that webmention is popular \o/
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Pierre-O Do you know if there are some discussion about replacing pigback with webmention as a default for wordpress?
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petermolnar we just need to add the webmention plugin to the core wordpress and we would be done spreading webmentions basically
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petermolnar anyone would adopt it
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petermolnar s/anyone/everyone
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Loqi petermolnar meant to say: everyone would adopt it
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petermolnar don't know about any existing discussions
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gRegor` There's already some good progress on webmention anti-spam, like /Vouch
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GWG petermolnar, is webmention ready for core?
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petermolnar that I'm not qualified enough to tell
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petermolnar my personal experience: with the current releases of the webmention and the semantic linkbacks plugin I have not seen any issues in the past 3 months
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petermolnar GWG how does something get in the core btw?
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GWG Hi, Barnaby. Long time no see.
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GWG petermolnar, it is proposed, starts as a plugin.
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GWG After the issue with the post format UI, they mandated new features be developed as plugins.
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barnabywalters greetings GWG!
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Loqi barnabywalters: tantek left you a message 3 days, 4 hours ago: how did you solve the http vs https webmention matching problem that you mentioned back in September? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2014-09-15#t1410786447360
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GWG petermolnar, I would not mind getting some people who are involved heavily in the Wordpress community to give webmentions a try.
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barnabywalters tantek: actually I never fixed that problem on Taproot, only Shrewdness, by stripping the protocol off the URLs when using URLs as unique identifiers for things
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barnabywalters need to do the same in Taproot’s webmention handling code
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GWG petermolnar, you recommended the apcu object cache plugin?
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petermolnar GWG maybe not here, but I do recommend it, yes
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GWG I'm redoing my site and might give it a try
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petermolnar it's pretty straighforward although I did have one or two times where I had to restart the fpm server to clean some stuck-in stuff
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petermolnar I have no idea what caused it
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GWG I was using memcached for a while. I also heard things about redis
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petermolnar redis is a good thing if you use the functionalities it provides; apcu is enough for me :)
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GWG I needed it for a different site, but it is gone
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@dmlresearchhub Another great #ccourses webinar this Friday @ 9AM PT - Connecting to the #Indieweb Movement http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ (twitter.com/_/status/540198800141594624)
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@kevinmarks @jkottke you may find http://indiewebcamp.com/freemyoauth handy (twitter.com/_/status/540200386070474752)
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aaronparecki.com edited /FreeMyOAuth (+0) "update pinterest image" (view diff)
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aaronpk do we have any notes/docs on who does a manual POSSE step vs automatic POSSE at the time the post is created?
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aaronpk for example I know tantek first authors his notes on his site, then syndicates to twitter as a second step
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aaronpk whereas my posting interface has a twitter checkbox and p3k posts it to twitter at the same time it saves the post to my site
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aaronpk (and I even have an open issue on p3k to support syndicating posts after they're created)
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tantek aaronpk - we have a "POSSE" section on each Silo's page where we describe How to do it and IndieWeb implementations of
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tantek whether people do it manually or (semi)automatically
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tantek e.g. mine (Falcon) is semi-automatic
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tantek in that Falcon does all the work to POSSE to Twitter for me, except for a single button press in my UI
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aaronpk I don't see that distinction mentioned there. There is this section though, maybe needs indieweb examples: http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE#Publishing_Flows
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tantek aaronpk which? did you check /Twitter#POSSE ?
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aaronpk yeah, lots of other details mentioned there
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tantek keeps forgetting that as one of the first silo and POSSE documentation pages, the /Twitter page doesn't have the same level of regular structure as other silos
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aaronpk ah yeah
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tantek search "IndieWebCamp community members" on /Twitter :)
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aaronpk yeah but that's just about what kind of posts are being POSSE'd, not about the publishing flow
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tantek hmm - on the post types as well
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tantek e.g.
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tantek http://indiewebcamp.com/event#POSSE
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tantek but also on silos like: http://indiewebcamp.com/Ello#POSSE_to_Ello
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@t "remove apps you don't trust/use" @jkottke "do that for everything" @murtaugh Built for that: https://indiewebcamp.com/FreeMyOAuth (ttk.me t4ZT1) (twitter.com/_/status/540211039452037122)
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@murtaugh RT @t: "remove apps you don't trust/use" @jkottke "do that for everything" @murtaugh Built for that: https://indiewebcamp.com/FreeMyOAuth (ttk.me t4ZT1) (twitter.com/_/status/540211235678326784)
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tantek aaronpk, OAuth UI gem for you: https://twitter.com/tomcoates/status/540198231192268801
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@tomcoates @jkottke Fire Eagle was one of the first apps to use OAuth and I'm disappointed user permissioning didn't catch on: http://blog.mapme.at/wp-content/uploads/2008/09/fireeagle.png (twitter.com/_/status/540198231192268801)
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tantek what is OAuth?
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Loqi OAuth is an authorization protocol created to replace the need for client applications of a service (e.g. a silo) to ask for your username and password to the service in order to access the service on your behalf http://indiewebcamp.com/oauth
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aaronpk aw I miss fireeagle
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tantek.com edited /OAuth (+263) "UI Ideas: add Map Me At" (view diff)
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@tomvangemert It’s easy to forget over time who or what can access your accounts. You can at least check through this link #OAuth https://indiewebcamp.com/FreeMyOAuth (twitter.com/_/status/540215276529532928)
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@gericci RT @t: "remove apps you don't trust/use" @jkottke "do that for everything" @murtaugh Built for that: https://indiewebcamp.com/FreeMyOAuth (ttk.me t4ZT1) (twitter.com/_/status/540215491995136001)
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kylewm thedod++ added a pretty neat tagcloud to RedWind! https://dubiousdod.org/indie/tag and now https://kylewm.com/tag
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kylewm now I need to collapse my navigation UI so it fits on one line again...
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snarfed opensource++
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snarfed contributors++
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aaronpk tantek: I made the FB event public :) ^^^
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tantek oh
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aaronpk didn't realize it wasn't public already
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tantek they're not public by default
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@shawnokeefe RT @t: "remove apps you don't trust/use" @jkottke "do that for everything" @murtaugh Built for that: https://indiewebcamp.com/FreeMyOAuth (ttk.me t4ZT1) (twitter.com/_/status/540222590212534272)
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KevinMarks_ bridgy now pings with invites?
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tantek oh it has for a while
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aaronpk it has for a while. this is not the first invite-storm
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aaronpk i just checked and the bridgy pings are coming in with significant time in between
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aaronpk 10-15 seconds
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tantek huh
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aaronpk so the tradeoff in clustering the IRC notifications is delaying the notification
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aaronpk I'd have to wait 15-30 seconds to see if another message comes in before sending it here
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bret that would be fine
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snarfed aaronpk: the all-at-once storms are usually just event invites. clustering those to ~1m or so would probably be fine
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kylewm I wonder why the pings are spread out, does that surprise you, snarfed?
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snarfed happy to add that to my list since i'm already diving into the wm.io side of this
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aaronpk hm, you think it'd be worth clustering differently on post type?
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snarfed aaronpk: yeah i'd start with just event invites
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aaronpk snarfed: thanks but I want to take a stab at clustering first, since I have some probably strong opinions on how to implement it :)
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snarfed aaronpk: sure!
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snarfed kylewm: maybe? hard to say. i'd need more info
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aaronpk snarfed: there's just like 10-15 seconds between webmentions sent. I can't tell why that's happening from my end
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snarfed aaronpk: is it really that consistent and regular though?
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aaronpk it's actually almost always 15 seconds
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snarfed yeah, based on the irc timestamps, maybe
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aaronpk but yeah 10-15ish
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snarfed i expect them to be serialized, but not that slowly. i may look into it, but not high priority yet
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aaronpk i wouldn't worry about it. it's not really a problem
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snarfed agreed
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snarfed also, for event invites, you could probably cluster as broadly as 5m or so and it wouldn't hurt, since they're not high signal
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aaronpk true
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snarfed aaronpk: kylewm: lol the delay was because the webmention to wm.io itself consistently took >10s to complete
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aaronpk oh crap really?
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aaronpk that's bad
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snarfed :/ really
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kylewm assuming it processes them synchronously, that could still be bridgy's (or facebook's) lag
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aaronpk oh you know what... webmention.io is processing them inline, including fetching the source
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aaronpk time to add that to a queue
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aaronpk so it fetches the bridgy source URL and bridgy makes the facebook API call
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snarfed aaronpk: i don't know much about sinatra, ruby, etc, but if you parallelize incoming requests decently, and don't block anything important on i/o, it may not be a problem
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snarfed but queue is still probably a good idea
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aaronpk that's not the problem. it's just synchronously processing each webmention including verifying the source URL links to target. so it has to make an outgoing HTTP request before it can respond
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aaronpk so while bridgy is making a request to wmio, wmio is then also making a request to bridgy
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snarfed yup. it's the common pattern, since most wm handlers process synchronously
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snarfed and not even bridgy specific
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aaronpk yeah. i just need to stop processing them synchronously
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kylewm oh but snarfed is saying process them synchronously but process multiple in parallel
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aaronpk i'm pretty sure it does. but bridgy is sending them serially anyway right?
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snarfed kylewm++ at least it's an option. i assumed it already served requests in parallel,
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snarfed yeah, bridgy has a queue and sends serially
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kylewm ohhh, sorry aaronpk was right
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kylewm --kylewm
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snarfed (but the difference btw serving requests in parallel at all and doing it *well* is pretty big)
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aaronpk yeah I'm gonna put them on a queue and respond like p3k responds
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aaronpk with a status page and such
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snarfed fwiw, one nice part about handling synchronously and parallelizing effectively (i/o etc) is that you can return the status in the response and still scale
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kylewm snarfed: does GAE allow running multiple workers to process the task queue?
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kylewm so that you could be sending multiple mentions simultaneously, even if the receiver takes a while to respond
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aaronpk oh also... wmio doesn't have its own microformats parser right now so it's making *another* HTTP request to parse the microformats
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snarfed kylewm: yup. it does by default; i explicitly made the queue serial
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kylewm snarfed: out of curiosity why?
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snarfed bridgy's outgoing queue rarely gets big, and wms don't really need to be too timely, so i optimized for being able to scale arbitrarily while keeping resource usage constant-ish
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snarfed a bit more discussion: https://snarfed.org/2014-11-06_happy-1000th-bridgy#comment-2583730
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aaronpk I disagree about the "timely" thing, but that's just me :)
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kylewm haha, well you're already waiting ~5 minutes for the reply from bridgy
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snarfed aaronpk: heh, i should have stated units. the difference is usually seconds to 10s of seconds
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snarfed and yeah, the poll delay usually swamps any wm delay
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snarfed kylewm++
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kylewm (although i guess aaronpk maybe you *aren't* waiting for the poll)
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aaronpk yeah i'm tapped into the twitter streaming api
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kylewm you're not restricted by the task queue at all then
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snarfed aaronpk: you use that to trigger favorites, rts, and direct replies?
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kylewm i think
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snarfed kylewm: he probably still is for indirect replies, unless he wrote a lot more code than i expect
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aaronpk just replies right now, it's searching for "aaronpk" rather than using the mention stream or whatever
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snarfed cool
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aaronpk so my favorites are still found by bridgy
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snarfed tangent: damn twitter for *still* not exposing faves via the api
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snarfed (and we're definitely overanalyzing at this point…but hey, entertaining)
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aaronpk okay well there's two things I can do to speed up webmention.io https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/26 https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/25
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snarfed sgtm
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kylewm a heads up for anyone wanting to jump on #26 -- the parser service that webmention.io uses is doing a bit of interpretation too (authorship and whatnot), replacing it won't be as simple as just swapping out the parser
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kylewm (I stumbled on that trying to figure out why it didn't resolve relative paths in e.g., my author image)
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aaronpk oh right
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ben_thatmustbeme https://github.com/dissolve/php-comments
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ben_thatmustbeme now with tag support
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ben_thatmustbeme i think
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ben_thatmustbeme just hacked it in quickly
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ben_thatmustbeme i've ended up modifying my own version of just about every one of those libraries i use
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gRegor` Hahaha, @TweetACoffee is like Clippy
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gRegor` It looks like you're trying to send a coffee
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gRegor` (Dangit, not in #indiechat. oops)
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aaronpk just ran apache bench against webmention.io and it was able to handle 10 concurrent requests without blinking
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kylewm ab++
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aaronpk wow there's a spam comment on a facebook social plugin thing created from an account that signed in via yahoo
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aaronpk that's elaborate https://www.flickr.com/photos/10970592@N04/15940832295/
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KartikPrabhu Loqi: messages?
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kylewm wth, you have to be logged into flickr to see images now?
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aaronpk whaa?
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aaronpk no, I can see it not logged in
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kylewm huh, sorry false alarm :/
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kylewm I clicked that link and it took me to flickr.com/signup or somesuch
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kylewm but it's not doing it now...
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julian`` anyone else ever thought about this feature in chrome? when typing an address youve been to it should give a visual indicator that youve visited this page before somewhere
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aaronpk not sure what you mean... I use chrome's auto-complete all the time to go back tgo pages i've visited
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julian`` if you've visited multiple pages with the same starting characters eg a.com aa.com aaa.com and aab.com it only shows a certain amount so maybe itd show all except aab.com and then when you type in aab.com you have no visual indicator if youve been on here before just a small ux feature i think would be useful
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julian`` actually in this example you would get a visual indicator, but if you're typing the end of a url eg url.com/blogpost1 11 111 etc you wouldnt see 112
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gRegor` Chrome's auto complete will also match later parts in the URL. I've used it a handful of times when I remembered part of a URL but not the domain
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/like/twitter/t/540211039452037122/18299065 linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/FreeMyOAuth (webmention)
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snarfed aaronpk: have you ever had the wmio schema creation hang on you?
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aaronpk no...
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aaronparecki.com created /wmio (+26) "r" (view diff)
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snarfed whee, ok. that's where i am right now. hangs after these statements: https://snarfed.org/wmio_bootstrap_hang
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aaronpk that's bizarre...
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aaronpk I don't understand why you're having so much trouble with this!
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snarfed (i can't guarantee i instrumented every statement)
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snarfed me neither :(
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snarfed discouraging
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aaronpk how'd you install ruby?
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snarfed i'm using mac os x's 2.0.0
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aaronpk do you use homebrew?
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snarfed i tried with 2.1.5 from homebrew, but that didn't get nearly as far
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snarfed details in the PR i sent
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aaronpk which osx version?
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snarfed yosemite
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aaronpk hm yeah I haven't updated yet
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snarfed but again i think most of this hasn't changed from mavericks
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aaronpk my setup is ruby and mysql installed from homebrew. (ruby-install and chruby)
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snarfed ok
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snarfed hard to believe ruby version would cause strange all these strange failure modes, but who knows
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aaronpk I dunno, it's not that hard to believe. There have been a lot of changes to ruby
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snarfed ok. i'll try chruby etc next.
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Jeena kylewm I generate my static maps like https://jeena.net/c/7e97fe3a905151cfd022fb6ff6de6355ae9052a5.jpg with https://gist.github.com/jeena/e9126b360c48e498cb23 and then I just cache them automatically
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aaronpk ah OSM has their own static map generator?
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aaronpk I use this one which can stitch tiles together from a bunch of different sources https://github.com/aaronpk/Static-Maps-API-PHP
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aaronpk and it can do lines and stuff
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Jeena good question, I never needed more then a pin
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kylewm OSM's looks like it is being discontinued?
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aaronpk oh wow yeah http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Static_Maps_API "This service has been deprecated due to high load on the OSM servers."
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kylewm oh, but there is staticMapLite, which looks like what Jeena is using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Static_map_images#Comparison_Matrix
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rascul you can also use leafly to get a map and just not put any controls on it, effectively a static map
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rascul kind of
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kylewm leaflet*
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Jeena that is why they wanted everybody to cache their images I assume
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rascul oh yeah, leaflet
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aaronpk the point of a static map is to be able to put it in an img tag
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rascul leafly is something different and unrelated ;)
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Jeena looks like one can host it themselves too https://github.com/dfacts/staticmaplite
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Jeena still PHP
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aaronpk wow it's just one php file
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aaronpk mine's better ;)
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aaronpk (also just one php file)
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Jeena hehe you have two PHP files!
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aaronpk oh true, i put the geometry functions in a separate file
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rascul two > one ?
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Jeena that is simple math ;)