#indiewebcamp 2014-12-06

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@kevinmarks RT @dmlresearchhub: 'You don’t go to Twitter to connect w/ Twitter. You go to connect w/ people.' @benwerd LIVE: http://connectedcourses.net/event/unit-6-class-2-connecting-to-the-indieweb-movement/ #cc… (twitter.com/_/status/541015736093663232)
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fiatjaf :P
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aaronpk next I should implement read receipts so I know if people read it :)
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@dogtrax RT @dmlresearchhub: Watch & then rewatch the great discussion from today's #ccourses webinar https://www.youtube.com/ #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/541026699786612736)
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fiatjaf that's very cool.
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fiatjaf.alhur.es created /pinterest (+23) "Redirected page to [[Pinterest]]" (view diff)
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fiatjaf I don't know what to think
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Loqi [mention] http://bavatuesdays.com/bought-by-some-chinese-concern/ linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (pingback)
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@jimgroom New blog post: "Bought by Some Chinese Concern" http://bavatuesdays.com/bought-by-some-chinese-concern/ #ccourses #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/541059795860852736)
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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indie-visitor What's up all?
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JHSheridan that's better
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JHSheridan I'm looking for a starting point to POSSE to twitter
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@oler @MilenaGlim ja, indie-web! http://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/541191555789238273)
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@MilenaGlim RT @oler: @MilenaGlim ja, indie-web! http://indiewebcamp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/541191939811708928)
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@lilious How to replace/integrate Twitter with IndieWeb http://indiewebcamp.com/Twitterinteresting work in progress #decentralize (twitter.com/_/status/541192493124304896)
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@pierreozoux RT @dmlresearchhub: Watch & then rewatch the great discussion from today's #ccourses webinar https://www.youtube.com/ #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/541211405496893440)
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@IndieHosters RT @dmlresearchhub: Watch & then rewatch the great discussion from today's #ccourses webinar https://www.youtube.com/ #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/541211405610135552)
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@dmlresearchhub Great conversation, wonderful participants, worth your time: https://www.youtube.com/ #ccourses #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/541265902126518272)
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@StuRobson @ShaneHudson if choice advertisement was used on some form of indieweb site though? Where they need that money? @smashingmag (twitter.com/_/status/541269598948302848)
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@ShaneHudson @StuRobson @smashingmag I wouldn't put advertising on https://shanehudson.net/ (indieweb site), I would consider it for http://SuccessCircuit.com (twitter.com/_/status/541270366510149632)
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@telliowkuwp #Ccourses and IndieWeb, a Conversation. Join in here at #vialogues https://vialogues.com/vialogues/play/18879 #ccourses #clmooc https://twitter.com/telliowkuwp/status/541278847040507904/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/541278847040507904)
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@mehlah RT @loicmathaud: Je donnerais donc une petite conf d'introduction á #IndieWeb au prochain @WebEnVert :) (twitter.com/_/status/541281148383809536)
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@linlouj RT @dmlresearchhub: Great conversation, wonderful participants, worth your time: https://www.youtube.com/ #ccourses #Indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/541288248577114112)
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aaronpk i think Architecture Astronauts would make a great band name
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@AnaCristinaPrts RT @jimgroom: New blog post: "Bought by Some Chinese Concern" http://bavatuesdays.com/bought-by-some-chinese-concern/ #ccourses #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/541294002448785408)
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@judell This excellent discussion about ed-tech/IndieWeb collaboration, https://t.co/n6D7HCuUEE, makes me happy and optimistic. #ccourses (twitter.com/_/status/541294789677682688)
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@kevinmarks RT @judell: This excellent discussion about ed-tech/IndieWeb collaboration, https://t.co/n6D7HCuUEE, makes me happy and optimistic. #ccour… (twitter.com/_/status/541294873819627520)
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@raycorrigan RT @judell: This excellent discussion about ed-tech/IndieWeb collaboration, https://t.co/n6D7HCuUEE, makes me happy and optimistic. #ccour… (twitter.com/_/status/541309308097802240)
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GWG I am thinking about certificates, keys, and 2fa for some reason.
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GWG Alternative ways to log in.
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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GWG I just spent some time reading about something before realizing I'm still running an earlier version of the software without that feature
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Loqi [mention] https://brid-gy.appspot.com/comment/facebook/500905437/10155043818625438/10155043818625438_10155051899030438 linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention (webmention)
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GWG Slow day.
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snarfed GWG: weekends can be
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GWG snarfed: I know. It's miserable in New York. Rain. Even the weather forecaster said it was a good day to stay in.
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GWG Hoping someone will come in with a problem, question, topic...
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snarfed aaronpk: thanks, that was fast
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aaronpk :)
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@meleciopipos Es bastante penoso que @manzanares_es publique en facebook teniendo página web propia. http://indiewebcamp.com/silo (twitter.com/_/status/541345934815535105)
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snarfed ugh, i have a sinking feeling that i'm failing at managing parallel PRs
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aaronpk that's hard
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snarfed e.g. https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/pull/27 now includes the bug fix commit. not sure if that's right
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snarfed sigh
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aaronpk i think that's correct?
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aaronpk oh hm maybe not
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aaronpk oh well
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aaronpk sometimes separate PRs can be merged without synchronizing them if there's no conflicts
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aaronpk i do that a lot when I batch-process PRs on oauth.net
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snarfed yeah. that one could have, but the u-url one couldn't
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snarfed doing that now
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snarfed ok i think i got this one right . https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/pull/28
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aaronpk that looks better
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snarfed thx
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aaronpk sweet
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aaronpk will deploy later
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snarfed don't forget schema upgrade!
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aaronpk yup
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snarfed i also have a first pass at pretty reply/like/etc notifs. will send soon
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aaronpk ooh fun
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snarfed btw looking at https://github.com/aaronpk/webmention.io/issues/18 , it implies you want to store it in the db
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snarfed any idea what schema you want?
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aaronpk I usually just do a varchar column for that and use a string value
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snarfed right but there could be multiple, e.g. like + reply, and they're across mf2 props
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snarfed i can draft something, just checking first
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aaronpk oh a post may be multiple?
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snarfed yeah
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snarfed personally i'd just store the html (like you used to) and/or the notif text, and not try to make up some new flat enum
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aaronpk well part of the reason to store it is to be able to return it in the API
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snarfed right, but in what form?
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snarfed hence making up some new enum :/
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aaronpk so that people displaying the comments can show likes and comments separately
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snarfed maybe multiply valued, one or more of reply, like, repost, rsvp, invite
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snarfed er, and mention (or maybe that's just unset)
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aaronpk could do a 1/0 column per type
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snarfed true. and also in api response?
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snarfed (i don't have a strong opinion, i'll implement whatever)
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aaronpk was also considering a new top-level object "likes", etc, and then the current "links" would be just the replies
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aaronpk but that means a single post may be duplicated in the response. which maybe is okay.
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aaronpk i hadn't thought it all the way through TBH
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snarfed :P this question is why my first pass only modfiied the notif text, and doesn't store anything new in the db
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snarfed maybe we can get that landed first, and think about schema after
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aaronpk well that's a good place to start and is still helpful
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snarfed cool
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GWG Who is using webmention.io right now? I've never looked to see how it displayed
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aaronpk display is up to the site using it. it doesn't provide a UI at all
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GWG aaronpk: I just found the list. Just curious about implementation
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GWG There was this discussion about changing your XMLRPC endpoint. I was wondering if webmention.io would be an alternative. Reject connections to XMLRPC and change the link to webmention.io
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snarfed aaronpk: do you have a separate local/dev wmio setup?
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snarfed mine still isn't writing the mf2 columns, which makes me nervous. worth trying outside of prod before you deploy, if you can
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aaronpk yeah I have it set up on my laptop
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aaronpk i test out everything there before i deploy
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snarfed good, glad to hear it
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aaronpk i very rarely push straight to production without running it locally :)
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snarfed aaronpk++
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Loqi aaronpk has 618 karma
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snarfed i'll send the pretty notifs in a min
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aaronpk wow awesome
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aaronpk can't wait to see!
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snarfed never trust anyone with a baby who says they'll do something "in a min" :P
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aaronpk hehe
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@voxpelli Updated my WebMention endpoint with realtime updates of new mentions – thanks for PR @sil! Also added more accounts: https://webmention.herokuapp.com/ (twitter.com/_/status/541372712581881858)
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voxpelli So – there should be some more realtimeness on all sites using my WebMention endpoint now
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aaronpk nice!
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voxpelli There's also some CORS headers added on some of the API:s – nice to get some time to work on it again :)
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@voxpelli As a result of the realtime WebMention endpoint I also released a Postgres PubSub module on npm: https://www.npmjs.org/package/pg-pubsub Uses NOTIFY/LISTEN (twitter.com/_/status/541374820689379329)
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aaronpk whoa, i didn't even know that postgres has pubsub built in
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voxpelli it seems to work with the free Heroku Postgres databases as well :)
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