#indiewebcamp 2014-12-20

2014-12-20 UTC
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tantek bear, do you have a feature you'd like to launch and start using on your site 2015-01-01?
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tantek bret, how about you? now that aaronpk has posted his 2015-01-01 commitment to own his likes - do you have a feature you're going to ship by 2015-01-01?
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bret I'm not sure quite yet, but I'm making progress on gitpub every week
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bret ill get a goal out there. not sure how much time I will have with family vs coding over the next week
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tantek it's ok to pick something small
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tantek you've got plenty on your itches / working on list right?
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tantek I mean ideally some aspect of ownyourdata
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bret I know, I could write a quick library for saving to S3 instead of saving instagram photos to git
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bret (for the micropub endpoint)
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tantek that would actually be pretty sweet - some level of user choice in backend storage for your photos
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bret i kind of hate it and it seems fragile.. it would be great if my photos locally were somehow aware of where they were also hosted
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bret but yeah, an incremental step
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bret maybe it can posse to like, 3 photo hosts, save that data, and if one goes down there are two other copies
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bret heh
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bret bbl
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bret 5 oclock
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tantek !tell bret write a short note about your 2015-01-01 commitment like aaronpk did https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/12/19/1/indieweb - I'm writing up this week's HWC and 2015-01-01 commitments into a blog post.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell petermolnar do you have a feature you'd like to launch and start using on your site 2015-01-01? check /ownyourdata and /indiemark for some ideas.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bret tantek: this for now http://bret.io/2014/12/20/goal-to-get-photo-ho/
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tantek !tell emmakuo congrats on owningyourreader per http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2014-12-17#t1418872365318 ! that's pretty awesome.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bret Unfortunate ellipse
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Loqi bret: tantek left you a message 4 minutes ago: write a short note about your 2015-01-01 commitment like aaronpk did https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/12/19/1/indieweb - I'm writing up this week's HWC and 2015-01-01 commitments into a blog post.
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tantek bret - are your slugs auto-generated?
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tantek if so consider auto-dropping words like "to", and only including whole words
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bret It like a take 25 chars right now
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tantek !tell emmak congrats on owningyourreader per http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2014-12-17#t1418872365318 ! that's pretty awesome.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell her that when I see her next
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tantek [5:23pm]
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tantek !tell emmak do you have a feature you'd like to launch and start using on your site 2015-01-01? check /ownyourdata and /indiemark for some ideas.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell her that when I see her next
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tantek that covers SF and PDX
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tantek !tell KartikPrabhu do you have a feature you'd like to launch and start using on your site 2015-01-01? check /ownyourdata and /indiemark for some ideas and then post it!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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kylewm Kartik was going to launch a friend's portfolio site over the break
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tantek oh right
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tantek what did gRegor` say?
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tantek !tell gRegor` do you have a feature you'd like to launch and start using on your site 2015-01-01? check /ownyourdata and /indiemark for some ideas and then post it!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek and that should cover CHI
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gRegor` Does sleeping in and not thinking about my site count? :)
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Loqi gRegor`: tantek left you a message 43 seconds ago: do you have a feature you'd like to launch and start using on your site 2015-01-01? check /ownyourdata and /indiemark for some ideas and then post it!
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tantek gRegor`: you can do it *before* the 31st / 1st and just use the 1st as an excuse to start using your new feature
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gRegor` Heh, yeah, I saw a bit about that. Doesn't look like I'll have time, unfortunately.
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tantek I for one am definitey going to be doing the bulk of the work before the 30th
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gRegor` Holidays and the girlfriend visiting, so going to spend time away from the computer.
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gRegor` It's a great idea, though! Good luck.
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tantek gRegor`: perhaps ask her what feature she'd like to start using on her site as of 2015-01-01
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colintedford.com edited /User:Colintedford.com (+63) "(Small) 2014-01-01 commitment: Fix single post display." (view diff)
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tantek s/2014/2015 ;)
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Loqi !calc s/2014/2015 ;)
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colintedford Haha, whoops :)
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tantek that's a good goal colintedford
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tantek permalink display is important
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tantek I'm sure you can do better than Twitter's tweet permalink display
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colintedford.com edited /User:Colintedford.com (+0) "2015 commitment, not 2014" (view diff)
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colintedford Yeah, those are the pages most people see so i should get them up to snuff.
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tantek right - they are often the destinations of search results
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colintedford And FB POSSE-ing :)
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tantek oh nice! using your own backend or Bridgy Publish?
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colintedford Using my own two hands.
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tantek manual POSSEing?
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colintedford It's fairly easy & gives me more control over link previews (though I guess if I auto-POSSE-ed that might matter less since I wouldn't be leaning so hard on FB's "link" post type).
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colintedford Yup.
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tantek I'm auto-POSSEing right now to FB via Twitter and even that's pretty decent
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tantek as in tantek.com -> POSSE -> Twitter -> copies tweet to -> Facebook
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tantek though it's an itch to do a more direct POSSE for higher fidelity posts for friends to see: https://indiewebcamp.com/Falcon#auto_Bridgy_POSSE_to_FB
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colintedford Hm, maybe I should try that out; then I'd be syndicating to places for the same amount of effort.
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colintedford to *two* places
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tantek that's exactly why I set it up like that to begin with
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tantek also because I figured I didn't care at the time that FB got a copy of a copy
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bret !tell tantek are those words to skip documented somewhere?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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snarfed bret: Google "stop words"
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bret thanks snarfed
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GWG Hello, gang
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bret hew gwg
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GWG Up to anything interesting?
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bret naw just cleaning up files
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GWG I'm just reading about new query parameters
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bret for what?
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bret html?
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GWG No. I use WordPress. 4.1 came out. New features for developers. They redid a lot of query parameters
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@mermshaus FreeMyOAuth - IndieWebCamp https://indiewebcamp.com/FreeMyOAuth (twitter.com/_/status/546189494316457984)
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bear !tell tantek I just blogged about my 2015-01-01 commitment
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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@bear just posted my 2015-01-01 #indieweb commitment - https://bear.im/bearlog/2014/354/2015-01-01-indieweb-commitment (twitter.com/_/status/546206832105373696)
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@kartik_prabhu get @divya_tak ’s new portfolio site up and running as my 2015-01-01 #indieweb commitment (twitter.com/_/status/546239778979868672)
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KartikPrabhu Loqi playback?
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Loqi KartikPrabhu: tantek left you a message 8 hours, 40 minutes ago: do you have a feature you'd like to launch and start using on your site 2015-01-01? check /ownyourdata and /indiemark for some ideas and then post it!
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Loqi is done
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KartikPrabhu !tantek here is my 2015-01-01 commitment note: https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/2015-indieweb-commitment
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KartikPrabhu !tell tantek: here is my 2015-01-01 commitment note: https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/2015-indieweb-commitment
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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neuro` Good morning UGT
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Loqi [mention] http://jennymackness.wordpress.com/2014/12/20/defeated-by-technology/ linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Smallest_Federated_Wiki (pingback)
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@owzim Migrating my stuff to ownCloud. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/546312075795238912)
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@StreamerBot using social networks to map protest in #Spain, check out @mapeaCC I wish to have a worldwide #hashtag structured map of protests #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/546335065102643200)
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snarfed tommorris: merry christmas! hope you're good! my gift to you is my quarterly nudge about your webmention endpoint :P
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GWG Anyone got a minute to look at something for me?
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snarfed sure!
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GWG https://tiny.n9n.us/2014/04/25/video-embed-test/
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GWG I'm testing a less big boxy design for contexts.
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GWG https://tiny.n9n.us/2014/04/26/this-is-a-test-linking-to-a-webmentions/
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GWG How does that looked compared to the old version?
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GWG https://david.shanske.com/notes/2014/09/14/testing-a-like-to-ben-roberts/
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GWG It's still a work in progress.
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tantek good morning #Indiewebcamp!
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Loqi tantek: bret left you a message 12 hours, 58 minutes ago: are those words to skip documented somewhere?
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Loqi tantek: bear left you a message 9 hours, 39 minutes ago: I just blogged about my 2015-01-01 commitment
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Loqi tantek: KartikPrabhu left you a message 7 hours, 3 minutes ago: here is my 2015-01-01 commitment note: https://kartikprabhu.com/notes/2015-indieweb-commitment
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GWG Good morning, tantek.
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tantek bret, I see snarfed answered your question. Another approach is to make *your* stop word list as needed, that is, as you find stop words you happen to use in titles, add them to your static list
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tantek bear++
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Loqi bear has 50 karma
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tantek KartikPrabhu++
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Loqi KartikPrabhu has 84 karma
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snarfed GWG: hmm! maybe i like the new one better since it's subtler, but i don't have a strong opinion.
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GWG snarfed: I'm going for subtler. Let the theme decide if it wants to style it further
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GWG What I'm trying to figure out is the content of it
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GWG Right now, it is formed based on three variables. The url, the title, and the content/quotation.
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GWG Does having the domain name like that make sense?
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GWG I keep playing with layouts.
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GWG And I have a future plan of adding the author h-card.
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GWG I'm also convinced I may annoy people by completely redesigning the thing, so I forked the project and left the old one as it is.
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tantek.com created /2015-01-01-commitments (+1021) "stub with link to IRC and blog posts so far" (view diff)
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tantek GWG - do you have a lot of active users of your plugin? Feel free to encourage them to join us here and give feedback or discuss it!
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tantek many may be very open to the redesigning that you're doing and ok with updating to it
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GWG tantek: I'm not sure. I think a few people use it. Not sure how actively. I felt bad when acegiak gave up on it.
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GWG tantek: I just set up a separate repository. The data is still backward compatible between the two
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tantek it's ok, we try different things and change all the time. I wouldn't worry about it. Just keeping making it the best plugin for yourself for now.
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GWG tantek: I eliminated something though. The ability to like and reply to the same post. I went back to a single action per post.
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tantek you mean in the same post?
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tantek rather that to?
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GWG Yes
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GWG Have you observed people wanting to both like and repost something?
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tantek GWG - I've seen people both favorite and retweet something. However they're always two separate actions, that happen at different times, and thus having a post for each (rather than one post for both) makes sense.
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GWG tantek: I put in the feature because acegiak sent a pull request for it. But after the disaster, I believe he moved to his own solution.
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GWG Not supporting it makes the code simpler
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tantek makes sense
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tantek it's certainly *technically* possible for a single post to have a u-like-of and a u-repost-of link to the original. and it makes sense to the receiver. it's just not in the typical user model
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kylewm u-like-of and u-repost-of *is* the typical model for acegiak
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GWG kylewm: He decided to roll his own solution anyway.
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GWG And I decided to go in a different direction
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GWG kylewm: By the way, your design made me decide to add the domain name
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tantek KartikPrabhu: you need a https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?title=Template:kartikprabhu&action=edit&redlink=1 :)
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