#indiewebcamp 2015-07-08

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gRegorLove Relevant: https://indiewebcamp.com/URL_design#Why_not_content_type_first
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aaronpk gRegorLove: yeah my urls have "forgiving" slugs as well
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gRegorLove Came with n things to think about, now I have n + 2 things to think about
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gRegorLove I was wanting to get rid of the ordinal in my note permalinks and I don't necessarily want to use the database IDs like I am currently. So I might be stuck with required slugs.
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gRegorLove I might just have my 404 page show potential results based on the mis-entered slug.
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aaronpk it's gonna be hard to change a slug if you want then
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gRegorLove ProcessWire has an option to 301 redirect when changing a slug, so should be OK.
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aaronpk that's one of the reasons I like the forgiving slugs, you can change them as much as you want without needing to store anything
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paulproteus benward: BTW, hi, I'm Asheesh from that Sandstorm thread.
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paulproteus Nice to e-meet you on that thread; btw, it's always fun seeing people get excited about things, and Yoz sure was excited about Known when we chatted a few weeks ago. (-:
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gRegorLove Hi, paulproteus. I think you want benwerd with an 'e'. Common mixup here, heh. :)
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paulproteus hilarious.
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paulproteus Thanks, benward (-:
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gRegorLove If you want to leave him a message you can type !tell benwerd [your message] and Loqi will deliver it next time he's here.
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Loqi who, me?
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paulproteus Cool, thanks gRegorLove . I guess I'll send an email instead!
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gRegorLove He does come by regularly; might even see your message in the logs.
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paulproteus ++
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gRegorLove Hm, storing posts under /YYYY/MM/ pages makes next/previous links difficult
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gRegorLove Not impossible, just not as easy as the next/prev sibling functions in ProcessWire.
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Loqi slack/tantek: That's why you want /YYYY/DDD instead of /YYYY/MM ;)
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gRegorLove That doesn't change the problem actually
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gRegorLove Worked around it. Just a couple lines of PHP. :)
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gregorlove.com edited /WordPress_shortlink (+281) "+dfn, see also" (view diff)
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GWG Evening
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KevinMarks__ A lot of scrollback to read today
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KevinMarks__ Tantek: https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/618499099864645632
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@kevinmarks @grorgwork have you looked at style scoped? http://caniuse.com/#search=Scoped (twitter.com/_/status/618499099864645632)
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GWG Evening, KevinMarks
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DanC_ Syncing a 5 Year iPhoto Library with flickr http://www.madmode.com/2015/photo-flickr-explore.html
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DanC_ hmm... why do I come here to discuss it? maybe this bit:
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DanC_ So I'm faced with another "to Mac or not to Mac?" moment.
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DanC_ This time I figure no, I lead a multi-platform life and I want something more web-native.
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DanC_ also: it took way too much hassle to publish.
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DanC_ is overdue for bed
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DanC_ hasta
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gRegorLove So my blog now has a mixture of articles published in Eastern, Central, and now Pacific time. Which timezone to base the archives on...
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KartikPrabhu UTC
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gRegorLove Is that what you use, KartikPrabhu? Could be confusing if I post on New Years Eve but it shows up in the next year on archives.
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gRegorLove Oh interesting. Your articles don't have a time or timezone.
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: I think my DB stores things in server-time which is Chicago time with timezone.
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gRegorLove Your notes have time and timezone, which makes sense. So are your monthly note archives in UTC?
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gRegorLove Also, you're up late!
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KartikPrabhu no. they are in Chicago time too.
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KartikPrabhu hmm this timezone thing can get confusing with date-based archives
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: thanks dad! ;)
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gRegorLove Haha
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gRegorLove I think I'm going to use a TZ-less YYYY-MM-DD for archives. Will need to process some data, but I think that's closest to my "ideal"
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KartikPrabhu what does a TZ-less mean? it just goes by naive time?
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gRegorLove Yeah, like chop off the timezone, so anything I posted in 2015-07, regarldess of TZ, shows up on /2015/07/
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KartikPrabhu interesting. I guess if you don't cross timezones frequently that can work
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KartikPrabhu otherwise naive timezone dates have the draw back that they make it seems as if you posted from the "future" of some other post
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@benjaminparry Dead excited about @IndieWebCampUK this weekend. If you’re feeling apprehensive about coming along, read this first http://www.lottejackson.com/blog/countdown-to-indie-web-camp-brighton (twitter.com/_/status/618711223094386688)
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acegiak Morning all!
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acegiak anyone got a quick minimal php reference implementation of authing with indieauth.com?
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GWG Morning, acegiak.
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acegiak GWG: Morning
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acegiak also, found my reference implementation
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GWG acegiak: I'm trying to get involved in a discussion about fixing the problems with Post Formats in WordPress
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acegiak with the wordpress people?
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GWG acegiak: Someone proposed removal and it is an opportunity to get interest.
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acegiak yeah totally
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acegiak would be rad if we could get some indieweb stuff to be more core
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GWG acegiak: I keep trying to sneak things in.
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acegiak GWG++ fighting the good fight
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Loqi GWG has 100 karma
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GWG acegiak: I want to try implied formats
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acegiak implied formats?
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acegiak GWG: that sounds like magic biscuit bullshit like WPcore's tumblr embedding
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acegiak Oh Goddamnit wordpress. There's a maximum arg length? then why not document that?
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GWG acegiak: In the wiki, there is a great section about implied post types.
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GWG I am saying that the content can dictate behavior.
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acegiak what are implied post types
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "implied post types" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=implied+post+types&summary=prompted+by+acegiak+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-08%2Fline%2F1436363738259
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acegiak I'll find it myself then, loqi
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Loqi grins profusely
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GWG What are post kinds?
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Loqi Post or posts may refer to individual pieces of content published on an indieweb site such as notes, articles, & responses, or the act of creating the aforementioned content (present tense), or Posts about the IndieWeb https://indiewebcamp.com/post_kinds
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GWG It is on that page
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acegiak actually. good point. my original implementation of replies/comments/etc were implied post kinds
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acegiak !tell aaronpk indieauth.com is sending me tokens with > 512 character count which means I'm gonna have to go and change settings in my php.ini to accept them. not sure if you want people to have to do that but thought I'd mention it
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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adactio.com edited /2015/Brighton (-193) "/* Participating */" (view diff)
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adactio.com edited /2015/Brighton (+105) "/* Participating */" (view diff)
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adactio.com edited /2015/Brighton (+104) "/* Participating */" (view diff)
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tommorris adactio: just bought train tickets down for Brighton this weekend. :-)
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adactio tommorris: w00t!
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Loqi adactio: tantek left you a message 1 day, 8 hours ago: looks like my addition of timezone to my dt-published caused a datetime parse error on your site when I webmention one of your posts from a reply: https://adactio.com/journal/9016#comment19204 http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-08/line/1433831289604
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Loqi adactio: tantek left you a message 1 day, 8 hours ago: you may need to update your microformats parser phpmf2 to the latest version, as the test parser on pin13 (which also uses phpmf2) has no problem with my permalink and dt-published: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http://tantek.com/2015/159/t2/of-the-indieweb-because-silos-die http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-06-08/line/1433831580101
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Loqi does a happy dance!
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aaronpk good morning
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Loqi aaronpk: acegiak left you a message 1 hour, 17 minutes ago: indieauth.com is sending me tokens with > 512 character count which means I'm gonna have to go and change settings in my php.ini to accept them. not sure if you want people to have to do that but thought I'd mention it http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-08/line/1436364139973
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aaronpk acegiak: odd... what setting did you have to change?
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@benwerd The #nyse is down because of a single point of failure? Something something #redecentralize something #indieweb something #open! (twitter.com/_/status/618809327571222529)
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@adactio Just three more sleeps until Indie Web Camp Brighton! https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/618816089783468032)
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@kevinmarks RT @adactio: Just three more sleeps until Indie Web Camp Brighton! https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/618816725883064320)
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@iFingers RT @adactio: Just three more sleeps until Indie Web Camp Brighton! https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/618816788369965056)
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@LloydDavis RT @adactio: Just three more sleeps until Indie Web Camp Brighton! https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/618818851493539841)
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Loqi [bridgy] Richard Senior retweeted a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/iFingers/status/618816788369965056)
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Loqi [bridgy] Lloyd Davis favorited a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/adactio/status/618816089783468032)
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@andybudd RT @adactio: Just three more sleeps until Indie Web Camp Brighton! https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/618820796790775808)
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Loqi [bridgy] Lloyd Davis retweeted a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/LloydDavis/status/618818851493539841)
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Loqi [bridgy] Kevin Marks retweeted a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/618816725883064320)
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Loqi [bridgy] Andy Budd retweeted a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/andybudd/status/618820796790775808)
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bret its stuff like this that makes email hard
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bret https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-an-spf-record-to-prevent-spoofing-improve-e-mail-reliability
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snarfed bret++
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Loqi bret has 73 karma
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snarfed email--
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Loqi email has -23 karma
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bret yeachhh
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aaronpk haha yeah
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snarfed ownyouremail--
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Loqi ownyouremail has -1 karma
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bret Phyks ^^
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aaronpk i hope we're not gonna need to do stuff like that for webmention spam prevention
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snarfed if/when it happens, i expect we'll get a long way by just wrapping services like akismet etc to start
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snarfed (previously: https://snarfed.org/wordpress-spam-statistics-comments-pingbacks-trackbacks , https://indiewebcamp.com/spam#Akismet )
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aaronpk fun times
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snarfed relurks
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@JimDabell RT @adactio: Just three more sleeps until Indie Web Camp Brighton! https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/618830638511202304)
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tantek bret - definitely add that to /email#Criticism !
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bret just noting this is a community article on DO
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tantek bret - yes, you found a good citation, please add it to the wiki!
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bret but still, wow what a terse api
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bret ill get it in there
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KevinMarks_ what is webfist?
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Loqi Webfist is the software used to run a distributed fallback network to enable webfinger on email address from providers that do not yet support webfinger https://indiewebcamp.com/Webfist
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bret you check the provider, then you check webfist
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snarfed fights the urge to start a project called webfistbump
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bret the original joke was to register a .me domain
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Loqi [bridgy] JimDabell retweeted a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/JimDabell/status/618830638511202304)
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gRegorLove Is /2015/Guest_List up to date with the tito registrations, aaronpk?
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aaronpk no
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aaronpk probably about time to fill that in
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tantek good call
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KevinMarks Interesting http://murphyapps.co/blog/2015/6/24/an-hour-with-safari-content-blocker-in-ios-9
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@tinokremer RT @benwerd: The #nyse is down because of a single point of failure? Something something #redecentralize something #indieweb something #ope… (twitter.com/_/status/618848189551128576)
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GWG I think I keep getting into bad committee like situations
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GWG I get the impression that the WordPress core community and I are not on the same page
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@kevinmarks @heathr @SaraSoueidan @Medium yes indeed http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE sums up why (twitter.com/_/status/618855755408502784)
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@jgarber @SaraSoueidan This is what I love about the #indieweb approach of posting to your own site and syndicating elsewhere: http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/618857442844241920)
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@kevinmarks @mathowie they're reminding you that the web is our legacy to the future, unlike proprietary Adobe formats that will vanish? #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/618858317306269696)
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aaronpk heh https://twitter.com/SaraSoueidan/status/618853637935251456
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@SaraSoueidan I still genuinely don’t understand why someone who has a blog would rather post an article on Medium instead. (twitter.com/_/status/618853637935251456)
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@jgarber @SaraSoueidan I don’t agree with databases being an “anti-pattern” per se, but the thinking here is interesting: http://indiewebcamp.com/database-antipattern (twitter.com/_/status/618858616456675329)
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Loqi [bridgy] Heather Gold replied '@kevinmarks @SaraSoueidan yeah. Once twitter's timeline goes I fear much else will go with it. Who knows where yr @Medium posts will end up' to a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (https://twitter.com/heathr/status/618856537575063552)
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@tigt_ @SaraSoueidan I agree, and the IndieWeb site prefers that: http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/618862249621516288)
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Loqi [bridgy] Sara Soueidan favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (https://twitter.com/jgarber/status/618857442844241920)
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@SaraSoueidan #TIL I learned about POSSE: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE —this is why I love Twitter convos. :)<3 (twitter.com/_/status/618863366195539968)
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Loqi [bridgy] Johannes Dachsel favorited a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Brighton (https://twitter.com/adactio/status/618816089783468032)
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@waleedsaud RT @SaraSoueidan: #TIL I learned about POSSE: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE —this is why I love T… (twitter.com/_/status/618863526635896832)
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@SaraSoueidan #TIL about IndieWeb POSSE: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE —this is why I love Twitter convos. :)<3 (twitter.com/_/status/618863609976897536)
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@iamcarrico RT @SaraSoueidan: #TIL about IndieWeb POSSE: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE —this is why I love T… (twitter.com/_/status/618863706324250624)
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@pequodcapt RT @SaraSoueidan: #TIL about IndieWeb POSSE: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE —this is why I love T… (twitter.com/_/status/618864089255804928)
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@kevinmarks “Having a blog can get you through the tough times, the lonely times and the confusing times.” http://www.hipstercrite.com/2015/05/04/why-you-should-have-a-blog/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/618866382076162048)
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cweiske kylewm, did you remove the subtome button?
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cweiske bret, do you still have a subtome button?
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bret erm i think
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bret in the elsewhere box at the bottom of bret.io?
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cweiske ah.
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bret sorry recent posts
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cweiske the blue one
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cweiske didn't see it :)
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bret yeah my site has some serious discovery issues
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bret working on a replacement
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cweiske the bottom bar is kind of very overcrowded
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bret im prob going to do a floating sidebar
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bret that collapses somehow
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bret and then add infinite scroll and keep nothing important at the bottom
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tantek reads logs
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aaronpk i always lol at sites with stuff in the footer that also use infinite scroll
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bret most site visits are drive bys
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bret aaronpk: just in case, the inf scroll will be a progressive enhancement over some kind of page system
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aaronpk yeah cool
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cweiske I'm thinking where to add the subtome button on my blog
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cweiske bottom or top or sidebar
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bret cweiske: its better than a link to an xml doc
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cweiske yep
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bret esp. since most browser can't even handle that these days
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bret firefox being the one and only
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csarven aaronpk It is said that there are some people out there that managed to catch to footer, but no one knows where they are today. It could also be that the devs think that the footer is for those special cases where the XHR fails to load new data. Bingo
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bret safari tries to open mai.app
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bret mail.app*
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aaronpk tehe
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cweiske "welcome. you've scrolled down the whole internet. take a break."
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bret has anyone tried adding rewind or qill to sub to me?
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cweiske I was successful with my self-hosted tt-rss instance
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tantek and mail.app is like those website that ask you to sign-in before they’ll do anything for you, e.g. view a local .eml .mbox .msg file
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bret yup lol
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aaronpk cweiske: http://www.1112.net/lastpage.html
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cweiske bottom-of-a-page is the last page of web 2.0
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csarven The IndieWeb thing to do would be is where you infinite scroll up.
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@kevinmarks Maybe, @ade_oshineye, but the punishment for silo hosting is the sudden disappearance of everything. http://Indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/618883068657451008)
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@pcosdeaf RT @kevinmarks: Maybe, @ade_oshineye, but the punishment for silo hosting is the sudden disappearance of everything. http://Indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/618883219866259456)
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Loqi [bridgy] PCOS Deaf retweeted a tweet that linked to http://Indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (https://twitter.com/pcosdeaf/status/618883219866259456)
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Loqi [bridgy] kragen replied '@kevinmarks @ade_oshineye Maybe we can host things in replicable repositories?' to a tweet that linked to http://Indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (https://twitter.com/kragen/status/618883826140364800)
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Phyks bret: ^^
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Phyks bret: I was not really thinking about owning my emails and doing stuff with the architecture (I am already self-hosting my emails on my server and not hoping for much more)
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Phyks bret: I was rather focusing on emails content
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bret ahh gotcha. my sentiment towards email is mainly aimed at the difficulty with hosting
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@aymanalzarrad RT @SaraSoueidan: #TIL about IndieWeb POSSE: Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere. http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE —this is why I love T… (twitter.com/_/status/618889172867284996)
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@47secrets @MAKERSwomen we made something! https://www.youtube.com/ #indieweb #workingmoms #firstday (twitter.com/_/status/618891595581034496)
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Loqi [bridgy] Adewale Oshineye replied '@kevinmarks we've described the Scylla and Charybdis that trap us in today's centralised web' to a tweet that linked to http://Indiewebcamp.com/site-deaths (https://twitter.com/ade_oshineye/status/618890693453328385)
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@kevinmarks I had a go a while back: http://epeus.blogspot.com/2009/03/how-twitter-works-in-theory.html but it has drifted a bit http://www.kevinmarks.com/twitterhatespeech.html more #indieweb next? https://twitter.com/nickbilton/status/618894075098365952 (twitter.com/_/status/618898271394660352)
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tantek.com edited /events/2015-07-15-homebrew-website-club (-495) "SF location confirmed @MozSF - main room 1st floor!" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club (+0) "move 1st floor to inside "adr"" (view diff)
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tantek !tell kylewm we are confirmed for MozSF first floor main room for next two HWC SF meetups. Could you post indie events and FB POSSE copies? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-15-homebrew-website-club#URLs and https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club#URLs
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi [mention] https://kylewm.com/2015/07/homebrew-website-club-1 linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club (webmention)
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kylewm.com edited /events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club (+45) "/* URLs */" (view diff)
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tantek hey at least we’re in July now so the posts for July events show up as /2015/07 :)
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kylewm haha, naw I fixed it after you proded me last time
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Loqi kylewm: tantek left you a message 6 minutes ago: we are confirmed for MozSF first floor main room for next two HWC SF meetups. Could you post indie events and FB POSSE copies? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-15-homebrew-website-club#URLs and https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-29-homebrew-website-club#URLs http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-08/line/1436393732400
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kylewm so it would show up as 2015/08 if it were August
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tantek oh ok hence the *-1 on the slug ;)
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tantek suspects slugs as meaningful part of the permalink ;)
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kylewm oh definitely
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tantek kylewm++ for “the people in indiewebcamp who prefer flat-files typically cite: inspectability, like you can just open them in a text editor, trivial backups, less maintenance. / imho, there's definitely a threshold where a database is a premature optimization, just different opinions about where that threshold is :)” in #knownchat
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Loqi kylewm has 187 karma
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kylewm wee, thanks for the transferable karma!
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tantek I figure since Loqi has yet to invade #knownchat ...
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Loqi woot!
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tantek what is why?
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Loqi "You're here because you know something. What you know you can't explain, but you feel it. You've felt it your entire life, that there's something wrong with the world [wide web]." — Morpheus, The Matrix
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tantek hmm - perhaps with this 5th annual indiewebcamp we can reframe /why as being primarily positive, with a subsection below for avoiding all the negatives, rather than vice versa
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csarven *IMHO* IndieWeb shouldn't frame itself so much on "anti-siloism" but https://twitter.com/csarven/status/617256318626308097 . To me, that is "positive".
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@csarven .@indiewebcamp is a good initiative to document practices and arrive at some recommended best-practices concerning data/UI/UX on the Web (twitter.com/_/status/617256318626308097)
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tantek csarven - indeed
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sensiblemn The Rasta in me is always trying to suggest that people stress the positive instead of the negative. I think this is a good change to make.
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aaronpk +1 for more positive framing!
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@adactio @mkfnch Totally into that: http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (twitter.com/_/status/618910990927839232)
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tantek sensiblemn: it can depend on the phase of a movement. in the beginning most movements start as a reaction to some (set of) pain points, and thus a declaration of independence of sorts. only later, when the movement begins to gain its own self-supporting identity does it have enough to describe in primarily positive framing, like a constitution.
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tantek for indieweb that shift can be most prominently seen in comparing the /why and /principles pages
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tantek.com edited /why (+345) "Why? add another positive reason, Emotional Support with citation of personal testimonial" (view diff)
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tantek csarven, FWIW the /why page *does* lead with the first section being positives, and only after that as a subsection “Avoiding problems”
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tantek what we haven’t yet done is to update the definition / intro to be primarily positive. we need a good writer to attempt to integrate and cleverly summarize the most potent of the existing positive why reasons.
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tantek I suppose I could add that as a note to the intro
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Loqi [bridgy] Mike Finch replied '@adactio YES, I just heard you talking about this on @thewebahead (thewebahead.net/56). Brilliant episode. I'll check into this today.' to a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE (https://twitter.com/mkfnch/status/618911479673126912)
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tantek likes capturing partial state
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GWG Evening
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tantek.com edited /why (+257) "Note: reframe dfn / summary as positive" (view diff)
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sensiblemn tantek: you brought up "declaration of independence" type documents being at the beginning of movements and mainly consisting of reactions to a set of pain points
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sensiblemn http://www.archives.gov/exhibits/charters/declaration_transcript.html
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sensiblemn i think it is worth noting that the declaration of ind(i)ependence started out mainly with a list of self evident truths and a declaration of unalienable rights and then afterwards listed how those rights and truths were being abridged.
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cweiske so. a subtome.com plugin for tiny tiny rss
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sensiblemn might be an interesting framework to mimic for the /why page
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sensiblemn gotta run. peace
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kylewm cweiske: I'm reading http://docs.subtome.com/developers/ ... do you know if SubToMe supports POST subscription handlers, or only GET?
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cweiske http://fotostore.cweiske.de/screenshots/2015-07-09%20tt-rss-subtome-prefs2.png
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cweiske http://fotostore.cweiske.de/screenshots/2015-07-09%20tt-rss-subtome-follow.png
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cweiske only get, via iframe
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cweiske as far as I know
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tantek sensiblemn: re: “started out mainly with a list of self evident truths” - not at all, look at the very first sentence!
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tantek “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, […]”
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tantek “necessary … to dissolve” - that’s a clear statement against something
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tantek s/a clear/clearly a
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Loqi tantek meant to say: “necessary … to dissolve” - that’s clearly a statement against something
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tantek hmm perhaps a silo web vs. indieweb rewording of the declaration of independence would be a fun exercise :)
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tantek Declaration of Web Independence: When in the course of online human interactions, it becomes necessary for people to dissolve the silo identities which have connected them with another …
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kylewm cweiske: cool! I added a SubToMe provider for Woodwind
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cweiske_ kylewm, convert the & to an &amp;
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cweiske_ the iframe is now loaded on every page load.
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cweiske_ don't know if that's good
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kylewm i think that's the only way to do it?
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kylewm where do I need a & -> &amp;?
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acegiak morning, all
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cweiske_ kylewm, in the iframe URL
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acegiak aaronpk: http://php.net/manual/en/reserved.variables.get.php#101469
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cweiske_ kylewm, I inject the iframe only when the user clicks the "add" button in tt-rss - see my blog post at http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/tt-rss-subtome.htm
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cweiske_ kylewm, if you still want an automatism, you could add the iframe to the settings page only
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kylewm that's a nice idea
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cweiske_ currently I can remove woodwind from my subtome preferences, but it re-appears again and again when I visited reader.kylewm.com
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cweiske_ woodwind and tt-rss on subtome: http://fotostore.cweiske.de/screenshots/2015-07-09%20subtome.png
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kylewm I'll look into what like TheOldReader does
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cweiske_ good night
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kylewm even in the correct language, dang
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Loqi sweet dreams
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kylewm julien51++
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