#indiewebcamp 2015-07-13

2015-07-13 UTC
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KartikPrabhu goes to validate his XML
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KevinMarks whats the url?
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KartikPrabhu https://kartikprabhu.com/atom ?
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KevinMarks of aaron's indieauth pahe
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KartikPrabhu oh :P
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I updated he wiki today about indieauth things to make it more consistent http://indiewebcamp.com/Category:IndieAuth (twitter.com/_/status/620382538234757120)
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rhiaro aaronpk++
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kylewm doesn't need to be demoed, but I finished adding POSSE for comments on instagram https://kylewm.com/2015/07/yum-lechuga ... uses Selenium and PhantomJS
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Loqi aaronpk has 879 karma
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snarfed kylewm++ ridiculously cool
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Loqi kylewm has 189 karma
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: then I worked on SWAT0 the tagging test http://indiewebcamp.com/SWAT0 (twitter.com/_/status/620382684267839488)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: ben took a photo of me https://ben.thatmustbe.me/photo/2015/7/12/9/ and tagged me in a photo and my phone notified me (twitter.com/_/status/620382862378975233)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I got hat notification (twitter.com/_/status/620382919694094336)
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snarfed oh man SWAT0 is so exciting
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kylewm aaronpk: commented!
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk got a notification about hats :P
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GWG Hats off to aaronpk
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KevinMarks 2 copies in the feed
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: ben updating the photo was amy hitting the like button (twitter.com/_/status/620383323941175296)
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KevinMarks remeber , steram is lagged
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KevinMarks so it took us a minute
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kylewm haha, painful waiting for us to catch up :P
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: and these comments are now on ben's post, which notified me (twitter.com/_/status/620383496889061377)
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KartikPrabhu tantek: caught the error. that post title has an ampersand which needs escaping!
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KartikPrabhu xml--
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Loqi xml has -11 karma
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KevinMarks yes, using wood wind too
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KevinMarks and I posted into known
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tantek.com edited /Falcon (+300) "/* Working On */ mobile design" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: now I can sign into woodwind and log in with twitter - wait, twitter is down (twitter.com/_/status/620383716075028480)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: fortunately indieauth means I don't have to use twitter, I can use last.fm (twitter.com/_/status/620383823491166208)
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@kylewmahan RT @kevinmarks: #indieweb @aaronpk: now I can sign into woodwind and log in with twitter - wait, twitter is down (twitter.com/_/status/620383842533126144)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: I cna post my own comment now in the reader and that posts on my site and ping ben's (twitter.com/_/status/620384093650485248)
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: and I got a notification that http://aaronparecki.com commented on my photo on ben's site (twitter.com/_/status/620384253516382208)
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kylewm aaronpk++
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kylewm ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi aaronpk has 880 karma
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kylewm that was awesome
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 96 karma
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KevinMarks and known is PHPO too
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KevinMarks I have a demo
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@kevinmarks #indieweb @aaronpk: so we have demo'd SWAT0 by 3 people, 3 locations, 3 implementations (twitter.com/_/status/620384473121718272)
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KevinMarks not sure how to do it
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tantek KartikPrabhu: I was right! bad XML!
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chreekat KevinMarks: can be done via hangouts
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KevinMarks not sure how to webcast to you?
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KevinMarks OK
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KevinMarks invite me
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KartikPrabhu tantek: yes! wondering why FF didnot throw an error but ignored it
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aaronpk_ send me a hangouts link and I'll open it on this laptop!
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@JoMangee @kevinmarks @aaronpk Sweet demo. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/620384830170140673)
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aaronpk_ KevinMarks?
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KevinMarks oh
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KevinMarks I thought you were going to invite me
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aaronpk_ just did
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kylewm.com edited /Instagram (+71) "/* POSSE */ note commenting via the API is not supported" (view diff)
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KevinMarks not seeing invite
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aaronpk_ https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/gqns5xbwkzmzuzzrccxsc5og6ya
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@superissarah baby step #1: webmentions! http://themostawful.com/notes/1.php (twitter.com/_/status/620386013999816704)
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tantek we see kevinmarks
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tantek one last demo! remote from KevinMarks
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tantek worked on indiecards
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tantek reworked it as a hovercard
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tantek designed to work in an iframe
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tantek he’s incorporated indiecards into noterlive.com
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tantek (aside: they’re not hovercards - hovercards are a very specific presentational effect in response to users *hovering* over something)
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tantek had to cache tantek.com
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tantek and thus caches cards in general now
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kylewm.com edited /Instagram (+460) "/* IndieWeb Implementations */ add POSSE for likes and comments" (view diff)
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Loqi [bridgy] Jo -mangee- Booth favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/SWAT0 (https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/620382684267839488)
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KevinMarks that lag was long enough
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KevinMarks yes a new window would be good
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KevinMarks though iframing sites as a preview is anothe option
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rhiaro is jealous of all this food discussion
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GWG That reminds me, I need to figure out if I could realistically add dynamic link previewing to the WordPress embed system.
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kylewm and Pacman!
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KevinMarks I should do the pagaspreview.herokuapp.com trick
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Loqi it is probable
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kylewm *claps* thanks aaronpk and everyone else who helped with the live streaming
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@adriennefriend @kylewmahan i noticed that it's all #indieweb! still makes me happy! :D (twitter.com/_/status/620388068181172224)
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KartikPrabhu tommorris: know a good XML character escaping library?
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KevinMarks should just be able to use utf8
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KevinMarks and escape the few xml chars
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@t Congratulations @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan for the first #indieweb #SWAT0 demo!! Previously: http://tantek.com/2015/193/t1/congratulations-first-indieweb-swat0 (twitter.com/_/status/620389177599893508)
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@kevinmarks RT @t: Congratulations @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan for the first #indieweb #SWAT0 demo!! Previously: http://tantek.com/2015/193/t1/congratulations-first-indieweb-swat0 (twitter.com/_/status/620390766280491008)
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KartikPrabhu KevinMarks: & is a valid utf8 character so that won't work i think
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@ayirpelle RT @t: Congratulations @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan for the first #indieweb #SWAT0 demo!! Previously: http://tantek.com/2015/193/t1/congratulations-first-indieweb-swat0 (twitter.com/_/status/620394390205304832)
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@alenevince RT t: Congratulations dissolve33 aaronpk kevinmarks kylewmahan for the first #indieweb #SWAT0 demo!! Previously: http://tantek.com/2015/193/t1/congratulations-first-indieweb-swat0 (twitter.com/_/status/620396011387809792)
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Loqi slack/snarfed: congratulations on SWAT0 everyone! really exciting!
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@acegiak Tantek Çelik: Congratulations @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan for(http://tantek.com/2015/193/t1/congratulations-first-indieweb-swat0) Holy shit - https://acegiak.net/2015/07/13/congratulations-dissolve33-aaronpk-kevinmarks-kylewmahan-for-the-first-indieweb-swat0-demo-previously-httptantek/ (twitter.com/_/status/620395716775546880)
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KartikPrabhu fixed XML problem in hfeed2atom by escaping all strings
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GWG Has anyone noticed the dated info on the IWC 2015 page copied from IWC 2014?
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GWG Watching the demos from earlier. I think I know why anomalily was having trouble with coffee posting as the date
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tjgillies_ Wooo
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tjgillies_ Webmention is live: https://www.evernote.com/l/AAJhGftkJahAzqL8Yhn3tghKQFMq4saUxDE
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tjgillies_ all html files, no database calls
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aaronpk GWG: that was because the Wordpress plugin looks for a "content" property, and Teacup sends custom properties plus "summary"
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aaronpk I want to add a sentence to Micropub that says servers should use the "summary" property if they don't recognize any other property of the request
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GWG aaronpk: I got snarfed to put in a partial solution for that when I was submitting PRs to it.
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@t User flow and permalinks from @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan's #IndieWeb #SWAT0 achievement: http://tantek.com/2015/193/t2/user-flow-permalinks-indieweb-swat0 (twitter.com/_/status/620439717440569344)
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GWG There are hooks to add additional processing.
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aaronpk Ah cool
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aaronpk I think summary is good for core tho
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GWG aaronpk: I just don't use Teacup so I haven't looked at what properties it pushes.
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aaronpk Just p3k-food and p3k-drink
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GWG aaronpk: I've been meaning to write support for setting the Post Kind from the Micropub plugin.
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aaronpk But it also sends a summary
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GWG It is why I'm not using Micropub at the moment.
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GWG It should be on my list to address.
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tjgillies_ aaronpk: What do I need to have in my post to have your site pick up the content of the mesage for webmention?
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tjgillies_ https://lit-tor-5257.herokuapp.com/content/live-stream links in the page, but there is no message
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tjgillies_ links to https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/07/12/3/indieweb
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tjgillies_ I had a blockquote on the e-content class instead of a div, but I repinged your site. Not sure if it was the blockquote or if I'm still doing something wrong
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tjgillies_ does it need a u-in-reply-to ?
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tantek tjgillies_: see /reply
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tjgillies_ /reply on the wiki?
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tantek yup
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tjgillies_ Nice, thanks!
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tantek slash references are auto-linked in the IRC logs
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tjgillies_ Nice
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tjgillies_ Is there webmention test implementation we can spam?
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snarfed tjgillies_: https://checkmention.appspot.com/ ?
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snarfed or do you want the other direction?
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snarfed also http://indiewebify.me/send-webmentions/
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tjgillies_ I want to post webmentions to someone else's site
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tjgillies_ To see if my website content is being properly marked up
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@SF_CA_RR User flow and permalinks from @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan's #IndieWeb #SWAT0 achievement: http://t http://www.rightrelevance.com/search/articles/hero?article=443dbc7dd3bea291603a5c797983879612461f81&query=san%20francisco%20ca&taccount=sf_ca_rr (twitter.com/_/status/620454136908156928)
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snarfed tjgillies_: aha, sure. just reply to or like anyone's post
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tjgillies_ I am
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tjgillies_ Ok
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snarfed tjgillies_++
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Loqi tjgillies has 18 karma
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chreekat tjgillies_: aaronpk had a post specifically for indiewebcamp people to try to do that
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tjgillies_ Wasn't sure if that was cool or not
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tjgillies_ I'm trying other posts because I'm not sure if its caching my first one or not
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chreekat tjgillies_: ah
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tjgillies_ science says I need a control variable
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tjgillies_ So im hitting a new post everytime
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tjgillies_ Can anyone see anything wrong with my markup? https://lit-tor-5257.herokuapp.com/content/test
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tjgillies_ I think everything looks good but the comment isn't being sent to site
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tjgillies_ but the webmention itself is showing up
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@buyfocal I bought something for $11.50 post indie web camp food and drink buyfocal, bars, indiewebcamp, restaurants https://twitter.com/buyfocal/status/620455152005345280/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/620455152005345280)
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@mola_io RT @t: User flow and permalinks from @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan's #IndieWeb #SWAT0 achievement: http://tantek.com/2015/193/t2/user-flow-permalinks-indieweb-swat0 (twitter.com/_/status/620455225833472000)
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tjgillies_ I wonder if aaron is doing something with vouch
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tjgillies_ and filtering that way
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snarfed tjgillies_: looks like your in-reply-to is a rel link, but it should be a class on an actual <a> link inside the reply object
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snarfed https://kylewm.com/services/mf2?url=https://lit-tor-5257.herokuapp.com/content/test
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tjgillies_ snarfed: Where do you see that?
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tjgillies_ <a rel='u-in-reply-to' href='https://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/06/26/4/bowievsprince'>testing</a>
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snarfed that link needs to be inside the h-entry
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snarfed the link i posted is the parsed mf2 from your reply html
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tjgillies_ Im looking at the source
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tjgillies_ I must be misunderstanding
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tjgillies_ or
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tjgillies_ oh
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tjgillies_ class not rel
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snarfed ahh yes
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tjgillies_ OK Thank!
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snarfed sorry, i was describing wrong
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snarfed but yeah that's it
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tjgillies_ I got used to rel= all the things
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tjgillies_ I need to host this on a real server so I can edit locally. Making a git commit and pushing to heroku and having them build an erlang app for a one character change is kinda lame heh
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snarfed yup
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snarfed local is ideal
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snarfed maybe run a well known webmention receiver locally? e.g. known
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tjgillies_ Not a bad idea. Thanks
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@Tyson_ot_NW Minimum Useful Markup, my principle to develop by. #indieweb. (twitter.com/_/status/620457839539007490)
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tjgillies_ https://www.evernote.com/l/AALjSD4yqFZLpp30i-w_15U18aag3vVH3Sk
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tjgillies_ Hell yeah
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tjgillies_ snarfed: u the man
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tjgillies_ Now I can go do something else
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tjgillies_ At least I know aaron updates the webmention on ping now
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snarfed tjgillies_++ congrats!
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Loqi [bridgy] Jonny Barnes favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/SWAT0 (https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/620382684267839488)
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Loqi [bridgy] Jonny Barnes favorited a tweet http://indiewebcamp.com/comments-presentation#How_to_markup (https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/620375941894770689)
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@jeena Tha last thing which happended on the #IndieWebCamp Portland 2015 was me and ht… more at https://jeena.net/notes/373 (twitter.com/_/status/620470540747309056)
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@misuba Weirdly, I didn't figure out what the whole hex-sticker thing was about at CascadiaFest; that waited until I got to IndieWebCamp. #nerds (twitter.com/_/status/620477779490910212)
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Loqi [mention] gRegor Morrill posted 'I just got home from IndieWebCamp in Portland. Had a lot of fun discussions and got interesting ideas. It’s cool being around creative peopl...' linking to https://indiewebcamp.com/2015 (/2015/07/100-words-027/)
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cweiske Loqi, full url?
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gRegorLove It's webmention.io I believe. aaronpk knows about it
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gRegorLove http://gregorlove.com/2015/07/100-words-027/
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cweiske construction_guy.gif
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cweiske Comment display is temporarily under maintenance.
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cweiske :)
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KartikPrabhu oh haha! Loqu does not absolutize URLs
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Loqi nice
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: seeing this at the bottom of your site "
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KartikPrabhu Warning: fopen(http://74.125.232.97/gregorlove): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.0 404 Not Found in /home/gregorlove/gregorlove.com/site/modules/Webmention/GregorMorrill/Webmention/WireHttp.php on line 134"
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gRegorLove cweiske: Yeah, kinda rushed to get it up today, so some things have to wait another day or so :)
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gRegorLove Heyy, that's fun. Thanks, KartikPrabhu
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cweiske all fresh and new then
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gRegorLove cweiske: Mostly same design, but new CMS + skeleton CSS for mobile-friendly
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gRegorLove Lots of little things to work out, but it's mostly there :)
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: would recommend increasing spacing between navigation links on small screens for touch-friendliness
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gRegorLove vertical space?
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KartikPrabhu yes. usually more space is need for fingers
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gRegorLove Weird, I'm not seeing that error message on the front end, though I do see it on the backend.
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KartikPrabhu i used firefox on ubuntu
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gRegorLove That article page?
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KartikPrabhu yes
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gRegorLove KartikPrabhu: Should be fixed now
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gRegorLove Yeah, I'm not in love with the nav links at phone resolution. I'll play around with it.
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: confirmed
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gRegorLove Cool, thanks.
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gRegorLove Night, indieweb
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@MicropubInfo Pull Requests: flask-micropub - Flask extension to support IndieAuth and Micropub clients. https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=https://github.com/kylewm/flask-micropub/pulls&ct=ga&cd=CAIyHDNlNjg4ODQzODIxNzA0ZmU6Y28udWs6ZW46R0I&usg=AFQjCNFoF3IkmNLnjta3V9Gvs8kqgfPyhQ&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/620501527195553792)
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Loqi [mention] Pierre Ozoux posted 'My media consumption/creation 2 min read This post is part o...' linking to http://indiewebcamp.com/ (https://microblog.pierre-o.fr/2015/my-media-consumptioncreation)
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KartikPrabhu web endpoint for hfeed2atom for testing and for people to test and ask for features: https://kartikprabhu.com/hfeed2atom
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cweiske KartikPrabhu, can I pass an URL?
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cweiske e.g. aaronpk's home page?
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cweiske goal would be that aaronpk adds a feed link to his homepage that my feed reader can use
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cweiske KartikPrabhu, pasting aaronpk's homepage html into the form gives exactly no output on your parser
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cweiske s/parser/converter/
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Loqi cweiske meant to say: KartikPrabhu, pasting aaronpk's homepage html into the form gives exactly no output on your converter
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jaygreasley Hello all, I was lurking over the weekend. I saw some uToob mentions and just wondered if there are any videos up there? (or if that is the plan at least)
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cweiske do you mean utoob.org?
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KartikPrabhu cweiske: I don't like to have URL endpoints. I'd like people to use the lib themselves. Does aaronpk's homepage give a 500 error?
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cweiske KartikPrabhu, I pasted the HTML
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KartikPrabhu cweiske: ok will test it out. I made it over the weekend to work for my homepage but I do plan to extend to cover others
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KartikPrabhu thanks for the heads up!
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KartikPrabhu cweiske: wow! yeah interesting that aaronpk homepage give no error and no output. Will work on that next
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KartikPrabhu cweiske: per your suggestion and my minimal bandwidth usage, I'll work on fixing it to work for most feeds and have an endpoint that takes a URL parameter and return the Atom document
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sebbers_ Can someone offer me advice on whether I should use Interfaces for this challenge or not? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/03ab2950cbbe9db17d70
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@kevinmarks RT @SF_CA_RR: User flow and permalinks from @dissolve33 @aaronpk @kevinmarks @kylewmahan's #IndieWeb #SWAT0 achievement: http://t http://t.… (twitter.com/_/status/620516456342536193)
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@calum_ryan Lots of interesting stuff discussed, implemented/tried out @IndieWebCamp Brighton this past weekend with a super crowd! Thank you @adactio (twitter.com/_/status/620539309897162752)
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@lewisnyman Getting my head around webmentions. If your post includes 'in-reply-to', then it's a comment, otherwise it just contains a mention #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/620544568925265920)
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@lewisnyman @petermolnar Ah right, thanks. Does webmention.io automatically pick up these as types? http://webmention.io/api/mentions?target=http://lewisnyman.co.uk/blog/shifting-from-conflict-to-learning/ (twitter.com/_/status/620546084125962240)
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petermolnar.eu edited /WordPress/Plugins (+491) "PESOS Plugins restructure + additional information" (view diff)
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petermolnar.eu edited /WordPress/Plugins (+56) "restructure of backfeed" (view diff)
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@petermolnar @lewisnyman I'm not sure, I'm not that familiar with webmention.io. (twitter.com/_/status/620553775699369984)
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GWG Good morning, all
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@DennisFischman RT @kevinmarks “Reddit isn't the front door to the rest of the Internet. It's a basement with a built-in bar.” http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/07/11/reddit-is-not-the-front-page-of-the-internet.html?via=meme&source=indieweb %E2%80%A6 http://www.chuqui.com/2015/07/the-death-of-reddit/ %E2%80%A6 (twitter.com/_/status/620564298989981696)
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fkooman aaronpk, did you think more about the reuse of authorization codes in distributed server situation? i was thinking that you could bind the authorization code to a particular instance and then keep a list of used codes there...
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jaygreasley Afternoon all. I was lurking over the weekend. Sounds like I missed a great event. I just wondered if there is any video of it?
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seekr there is a bit, jaygreasley
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Loqi seekr: gRegorLove left you a message on 7/12 at 10:13am: Yesterday's demos will be put on the wiki eventually at http://indiewebcamp.com/2015/Demos. Same for today's hack day demos. Yesterday's demos are currently in the IRC logs but will be dumped to that page. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-12/line/1436721233516
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seekr bret streamed video from Portland on Saturday, and I was able to capture an hour of it - it might also be on YouTube - and Charlotte Jackson streamed the final implementations session from Brighton on Sunday
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seekr jaygreasley: ^^ try https://youtu.be/yJCtLhopfDY for bret's video - yeah, seems to work, but the audio is wonky for the first 5-10 minutes - Charlotte's is at https://youtu.be/aMuQ2U8nFPU
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seekr Thanks, gRegor-phone, for the note yesterday about the demos being put into wiki-space - will check in a day or three
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seekr did you see my notes about the videos about which you were inquiring, jaygreasley? See also Loqi's note above.
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning all
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opyate Can I add IndieWebCamp to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BarCamp#Influence ?
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seekr (at least it's sunny on my side of the river :P )
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@paul_tibbetts Thoroughly enjoyed @indiewebcamp Brighton. Massive thank you to @adactio and @Lottejackson for hosting it and everyone else for taking part (twitter.com/_/status/620602556453158912)
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ben_thatmustbeme o/ seekr
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ben_thatmustbeme opyate: i don't see why not
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ben_thatmustbeme lots to do
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: tantek__: i'm guessing only admins can set topic in #indiewebcamp. Was just trying to update for Edinburgh and the HWC link is 2 weeks out of date
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@Tyson_ot_NW @kevinmarks #indiewebcamp Exactly, as long as each url of an item points to a complete'er url, and each url has MUM to describe the item. (twitter.com/_/status/620606603843076096)
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@Tyson_ot_NW @kevinmarks #indieweb then we can use SWAT0 to pass notifications of reviews, listings, more detailed Markups, etc around to whoever cares. (twitter.com/_/status/620607086167109632)
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@AugustinGuefif #cms Vigil@nce - WordPress Indieweb Post Kinds : Cross Site Scripting, analysé le 13/05/2015 http://vigilance.fr/vulnerabilite/WordPress-Indieweb-Post-Kinds-Cross-Site-Scripting-16908 #vulnérabilité (twitter.com/_/status/620607448689160192)
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@laVeilleTechno RT @webcoupdoeil: Vigil@nce - WordPress Indieweb Post Kinds : Cross Site Scripting, analysé le 13/05/2015 http://vigilance.fr/vulnerabilite/WordPress-Indieweb-Post-Kinds-Cross-Site-Scripting-16908 #wordpress (twitter.com/_/status/620609660878352385)
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@GS_Mag Vigil@nce - WordPress Indieweb Post Kinds : Cross Site Scripting http://www.globalsecuritymag.fr/Vigil-nce-WordPress-Indieweb-Post,20150713,54346.html (twitter.com/_/status/620610045651386368)
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@ITSecureFr Vigil@nce - WordPress Indieweb Post Kinds : Cross Site Scripting, analysé le 13/05/2015 http://vigilance.fr/vulnerabilite/WordPress-Indieweb-Post-Kinds-Cross-Site-Scripting-16908?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter (twitter.com/_/status/620610156791922688)
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jaygreasley thank you seekr
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jaygreasley and thank you Loqi
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Loqi yeah!
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning tantek
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tantek good morning ben_thatmustbeme!
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tantek saw your note about the channel topic - I’ll fix that
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tantek could you fix /next-iwc and /next-hwc ?
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tantek and /sidebar ?
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ben_thatmustbeme sure
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tantek s/fix/update :)
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ben_thatmustbeme can't actually find the tempalte for the sidebar
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ben_thatmustbeme also the header would need to be changed
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ben_thatmustbeme but I think thats an aaronpk only thing
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@t Yesterday @IndieWebCamp I did * “how to” comments markup * cross-browser per post styles * mobile friendlier home page (ttk.me t4c91) (twitter.com/_/status/620617583809662976)
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tantek sidebar isn’t a template, it’s just /Sidebar :)
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ben_thatmustbeme doesn't let me edit it
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tantek interesting
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, it doesn't let me anything in the MediaWiki namespace
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ben_thatmustbeme probably have to be an admin
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tantek that makes sense
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tantek all updated!
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tantek thanks ben_thatmustbeme
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tantek hey ben_thatmustbeme what’s your mechanism for receiving / seeing notifications of comments on your posts?
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tantek could you screenshot it and post it?
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tantek in particular the notifications from KevinMarks and kylewm commenting on your swat0 photo last night
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tantek you have a separate page for all your notifications right?
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ben_thatmustbeme i don't get unique data in notification on my system, just a generic notification that links me to https://ben.thatmustbe.me/activity
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tantek timestamps?
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ben_thatmustbeme the actual notification i see (from chrome notifications) is https://ben.thatmustbe.me/image/uploaded/notification.png
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tantek great - please screenshot that, perhaps cropped to the top left just enough to include the comments from Kevin Marks and Kyle Mahan, and post that screenshot to your site
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ben_thatmustbeme i'll work up a post in a bit with these images
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tantek cool - then I can update http://tantek.com/2015/193/t2/user-flow-permalinks-indieweb-swat0 accordingly
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tantek could you improve the Chrome notification to have the same info as your /activity page?
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: when you click on the Chrome notification, does it switch to Chrome and load your https://ben.thatmustbe.me/activity page?
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@dietrich @t @IndieWebCamp There's no link in your tweet - slash removed intentionally to prevent Twitter shortlinking? (twitter.com/_/status/620621933814493184)
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek, yes, chrome is technically what is receiving the notifications, so it just opens a new window
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ben_thatmustbeme its been really unstable, they just added notifications recently
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ben_thatmustbeme well, notifications that run from a service worker anyway
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gRegorLove Morning, indieweb
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tantek my reply to dietrich (tweet above) https://twitter.com/t/status/620623903711436800
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@t Precisely @dietrich. Tweet copies have a link at the end only when there’s more. E.g. links for prev: * ... http://tantek.com/2015/194/t2/copies-link-only-when-more (twitter.com/_/status/620623903711436800)
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ben_thatmustbeme looks like chrome 44 actually supports data being send to the notification, so once i get that ability, new things will happen
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tantek that’s good to document - the newness of the support of web notifications, and why the notification itself does not say anything more
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KartikPrabhu tantek: survey question, if hfeed2atom provided an API so that you could generate a link to Atom version of your homepage would you use it to provide a traditional feed?
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ben_thatmustbeme well i guess you could do the notifications themselves for a while. i jumped on when i could get notifications without my browser being open (chrome technically running in the background with a service worker for receiving notifications)
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ben_thatmustbeme i'll put this all in my post
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@easyaspython django-webmention: Receive and manage webmentions on your Django-powered blog. In early stages – please break. https://pypi.python.org/pypi/django-webmention/0.0.2 (twitter.com/_/status/620628624379641856)
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek: made some improvements for myself and took a screenshot
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ben_thatmustbeme https://ben.thatmustbe.me/image/uploaded/swat0-notification.png
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ben_thatmustbeme can alight nicely with video, includes Amy's like that aaronpk dismissed as an edit
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@Coopsess RT @easyaspython: django-webmention: Receive and manage webmentions on your Django-powered blog. In early stages – please break. https://t.… (twitter.com/_/status/620628919444762624)
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@dissolve333 Congrats to everyone on a successful IndieWebCamp 2015. Lots of great work done including our first SWAT0… (https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2015/7/13/1/) (twitter.com/_/status/620630014233415680)
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aaronpk GOOD MORNING
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ben_thatmustbeme eep! capslock attack
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aaronpk i'm just excited about SWAT0
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bret sorry i missed ground control yesterday evening!
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bret i had some duties at home i need to take car eof
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ben_thatmustbeme yes, i still have a number of improvements to make to my notifications system
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ben_thatmustbeme just improved the look a bit
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aaronpk nice
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ben_thatmustbeme its all placeholder until chrome 44 where i can send data
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ben_thatmustbeme and don't need a page
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tantek aaronpk: it’s a CAPSLOCK kind of day, and likely to be week :)
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ben_thatmustbeme i suspect aaronpk will quickly find a need to limit notification amounts now
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aaronpk gonna need to type SWAT0 a lot, so might as well leave capslock on all the time
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bret aaronpk: i think I left my coffee mug at Esri
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bret can i come grab that today?
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aaronpk sure
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bret its either in richer or on the AC in the main room i htink
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bret or somewhere else but i think there
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bret ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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@kylewmahan @drewm @awoods want to update to support mf2 h-feed instead? B) @kartik_prabhu just wrote a lib at indiewebcamp… https://kylewm.com/2015/07/drewm-awoods-any-interest-in-updating-to-support (twitter.com/_/status/620631816949469184)
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aaronpk bret: I don't see it
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bret hrmmm
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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ben_thatmustbeme testing some updates to my push notificaitons
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ben_thatmustbeme can someone else like a post of mine
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ben_thatmustbeme https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2015/7/13/1/
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ben_thatmustbeme or comment or something
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indie-visitor nick mali
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ben_thatmustbeme indie-visitor: you need the /
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bret aaronpk: might be in the other side rooms too
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bret im not totally sure though
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ben_thatmustbeme thanks aaronpk.. hmmm, i broke something on myself
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malimarl Have just read a blog about indieweb. I was interested but even at the first step this all looks very technical. Not a clue what i'm doing. Just liked the idea of having my own web 'space' rather than relying on usual social media.
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KartikPrabhu malimarl: take a look at withknows
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KartikPrabhu what is withknown?
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Loqi Known is an open publishing / community platform project https://indiewebcamp.com/withknown
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malimarl Thank you KarikPrabhu. I will.
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kylewm malimarl: if you want to go more DIY, take a look at https://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started ... it's intended to be as beginner-friendly and non-jargony as possibly. if there are bits that could be improved, that would be helpful feedback for us
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malimarl Cool. Thanks kylewm.
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malimarl Oh actually that was the place I started from which told me to come here! Don't want to be going round in circles, but I do need to read the two given links further. I'll put some time aside to view and get back to you. So is this thing in development or is it actually up and working?
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kylewm KartikPrabhu: I dont' *think* I'd use hfeed2atom as a service. scary to lose control over kinda a key piece of infrastructure
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aaronpk i don't think he was suggesting using it as a service
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aaronpk it could be used as a library instead
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tantek malimarl: Known is fully up and working - go signup at http://withknown.com/ !
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malimarl Ok. Thank you. Still don't have a clue what i'm doing but will get there. Still utterly confused on what this is all about. I need to put some time aside to read the links you gave me. I'll do that.
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: I was suggesting it as a service, sort of like kylewm's mf2py endpoint
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ben_thatmustbeme one more time, a like or comment or something on a post of mine someone?
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aaronpk oh, well I wouldn't recommend using it as a service :P
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme looks like kylewm’s comment is triplicated here: https://ben.thatmustbe.me/photo/2015/7/12/7/#comments - any idea why?
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KartikPrabhu gotcha! I made a endpoint with text-area entry though https://kartikprabhu.com/hfeed2atom doesn't work on most feeds yet since I built it with my homepage feed but will keep on improving
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ben_thatmustbeme not yet. one of them i know, he sent a salmention and my somehow it slipped past the checks for it being just an edit
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ben_thatmustbeme i don't know why it would have processed the other time
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malimarl How do I log out of here. Do I just close the window. I can't see a log out button anywhere.
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Loqi slack/snarfed: ben_thatmustbeme you can wm yourself, right?
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ben_thatmustbeme possibly because i shortened the cron job so much
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ben_thatmustbeme snarfed. good point DUH
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gRegorLove KartikPrabhu: Feed validator isn't liking the generated feed, FYI https://validator.w3.org/feed/check.cgi?url=https%3A%2F%2Fkartikprabhu.com%2Fatom
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gRegorLove What is hfeed2atom?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "hfeed2atom" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=hfeed2atom&summary=prompted+by+gRegorLove+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-13%2Fline%2F1436806200916
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malimarl How do I quit now? Anyone?
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aaronpk you can just close the window
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KartikPrabhu malimarl: if you are on the web client chat just close the window
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: urgh XML and its stupid "validation" requirements. It does work as a feed though ;)
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gRegorLove Depending on the consumer, of course. :)
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gRegorLove xml--
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malimarl I just know I came here by clicking on a link. I don't know what web client chat is. I'll just close the window. Looks like i've got one hell of a lot to learn.
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Loqi xml has -12 karma
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gRegorLove Feel free to ask questions if it's overrwhelming, malimarl
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tommorris KartikPrabhu: I'm tempted to integrate it directly into mf2py at some point, along with tools for converting h-card into vCard and h-event into iCalendar
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aaronpk tommorris: I don't think putting that kind of logic into the parsing library is a good idea, better to have as a separate library IMO
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tantek agreed with aaronpk
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tommorris mf2tools ;-)
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malimarl It is! But I don't want to look an idiot. Already feeling overwhelmed and at a loss. Have no idea what anyone's talking about. I think I need to read those links. :) Tatty bye for now.
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tantek sounds good
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gRegorLove Mf2ools
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aaronpk gRegorLove++
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Loqi gRegorLove has 17 karma
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kylewm tommorris: you're welcome to add stuff to mf2util if you want
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tantek malimarl: have a great day! welcome back any time.
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tommorris malimarl: sorry, a lot of us are working on our own stuff. I hope you don't feel like the community is alienating
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tommorris malimarl: if there's issues with the wiki or there's stuff that doesn't make sense, I think most of us here want to try and make that better.
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Loqi slack/snarfed: should add mf2 input (with atom output) to <https://granary-demo.appspot.com/> too
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malimarl No. I just need to find out what it's all about. I liked the stuff in the blog about indieweb, but it seems so technical. I'm not a techy, not by a long shot. I'll read the links and come back and visit. At the moment I have no clue what this is all about.
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gRegorLove hfeed2atom is https://github.com/kartikprabhu/hfeed2atom
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Loqi ok
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Loqi slack/snarfed: (to the demo, that is, since the lib does it)
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Loqi slack/snarfed: diversity++
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ben_thatmustbeme hah, i found the service worker debug settings in chrome now... much easier this way
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bret snarfed, people got a kick out of huffduff video in the podcasting session
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kylewm diversity++ proxy vote for snarfed
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gRegorLove That was some sweet magic, snarfed + bret
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bret snarfed, what if you used http://archive.org/help/abouts3.txt to host the files indefinately instead of 30 days on s3?
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bret does youtube-dl + ffmpeg produce reproducible files? e.g. could a cache the hash of the output to prevent duplication?
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bret or doh... just compare the video ID from youtube or whategver
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tantek hey GWG do you have a venue for HWC this week? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2015-07-15-homebrew-website-club#Where
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tantek old thread
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tantek and Ello is basically blank w/o JS
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tantek e.g. http://ello.co/wtf/about/
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tantek so they’re dead to history
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tantek hey welcome benwerd!
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Loqi slack/snarfed: thanks bret, glad people liked huffduff-video!
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benwerd Good morning!
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message 1 day, 1 hour ago: really need you to take a look at this http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-10#t1436575014809 and please followup with: 1) feedback on my comments markup, 2) document your own on the wiki. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-12/line/1436718176490
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Loqi benwerd: tantek left you a message on 7/12 at 1:47pm: for your review, updated how to markup comments when you put them on your posts: http://indiewebcamp.com/comment-presentation#How_to_markup http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-12/line/1436734035118
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Loqi slack/snarfed: it's definitely de-duped since the beginning
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tantek haha well that’s a bit late :) though do take a look and see what we settled on
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tantek I’m thinking of moving the dt-published and u-url link into the main example
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tantek to encourage people to link back to comment permalinks
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aaronpk oh I was going to mention that
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tantek which?
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aaronpk "moving the dt-published and u-url link into the main example"
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tantek ok!
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aaronpk in order to support SWAT0 you need a unique identifier for each comment to know if you've seen it before
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aaronpk URL is the easiest obviously
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tantek good poing
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tantek s/poing/point
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Loqi tantek meant to say: good point
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aaronpk otherwise... messy messy
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tantek benwerd, I heard a rumor you were adding salmentions support to Known!
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benwerd cool; I did add comment markup this weekend, and included u-url (we already have unique URLs for each comment)
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benwerd tantek: yes. I got 90% of the way there. Just need to accept incoming salmentions
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Loqi slack/snarfed: bret: internet archive's file hosting looks interesting! I'm not familiar with their policies... do you think it'd be appropriate? hdv currently generates ~200GB/mo
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benwerd Known core already does the bouncing of the webmention upstream, and has the comment markup
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aaronpk interesting thing I noticed about implementing salmentions... you actually need to store state
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aaronpk you need to know what was on the page the first time you saw it when the "update" webmention comes in
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aaronpk at a bare minimum you need the URLs of all the comments/likes/etc that were there last time
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tantek now also documenting whys since you mentioned that
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aaronpk thx
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rhiaro You also need the contents of the comments/etc right? In case an update mention comes from one of them changing?
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rhiaro s/changing/being updated
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Loqi rhiaro meant to say: You also need the contents of the comments/etc right? In case an update mention comes from one of them being updated?
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aaronpk heh true
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aaronpk if you want a notification that says "amy updated a comment on a photo you were tagged in"
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aaronpk right now I only look for new comments
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rhiaro Not just for notifying, but for generally updating people's caches, assuming people are storing all this stuff not pulling it every time someone looks at it
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tantek wow I’ve never seen that notification but you certainly could implement it
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aaronpk oh yeah sure
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snarfed bret: aha, hdv probably couldn't upload files to archive.org because copyright: http://archive.org/about/faqs.php#Uploading_Content
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snarfed was a good idea though
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rhiaro "aaron updated a comment on amy's comment on a photo you were tagged in"
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rhiaro when does it end..? :)
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tantek rhiaro: when you stop coding ;)
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aaronpk commentupdateception
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rhiaro When there's no space left on your phone screen for notification text
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rhiaro Interesting way of keeping you informed about reach
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tantek btw if you check the # SWAT0 hashtag on Twitter, and try to follow all the old links to people claiming support for it, or videos of it, they’re all dead
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tantek the youtube video is gone
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tantek the statusnet blog post permalinks are all 404
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snarfed youtube video is gone?!
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snarfed wonder why
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rhiaro Has someone indieposted the youtube video demo from the weekend?
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aaronpk i might be able to do that later today
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tantek rhiaro: I think aaronpk is trimming the video from the demos
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rhiaro cool
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aaronpk i have the raw footage before it went to youtube so i'm gonna trim it from that
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aaronpk good idea indie posting that one ;)
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tantek yes!
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ben_thatmustbeme feels motivated to fix up a whole bunch of stuff now
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aaronpk me too
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ben_thatmustbeme i also want to be able to be roll B as well
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tantek s/roll/role
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snarfed hack day hangover refactoring
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aaronpk i need to add people tags next
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: you’re definitely not B-roll in this crowd ;)
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ben_thatmustbeme no tantek, i actually want to be a dinner food
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rhiaro I need to get on my incoming webmentions displya!
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rhiaro Then I want notifications
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aaronpk my improved notifications have been amaaazing already
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aaronpk so much nicer to get meaningful notifications instead of just URLs :P
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ben_thatmustbeme i need to wait for chrome 44 to roll out. they are adding ability to send data to the service worker now
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ben_thatmustbeme so i'll be able to do proper notifications
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rhiaro There are a coulpe of notification thingys for android, but I would also consider just sending myself an email
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aaronpk rhiaro: i'd recommend looking at something like Pushover
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aaronpk so you get real push notifications that you can customize a little btter
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rhiaro Cool, thanks. I googled it briefly and noticed a few hoptions
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tantek aaronpk done ^^^
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aaronpk tantek++
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aaronpk tantek++ for using different TLDs in the example! jane.example.com and kim.example.net
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tantek you know it!
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ben_thatmustbeme rhiaro: in case you were wondering https://developers.google.com/web/updates/2015/03/push-notificatons-on-the-open-web?hl=en
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ben_thatmustbeme how i do it
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rhiaro great, thanks ben_thatmustbeme
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rhiaro bookmarks
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tantek benwerd did you see that someone shipped a Known plugin yesterday @IndieWebCamp for multi-user support with different users having different color themes?
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benwerd tantek: I did not and now I want to. That's amazing
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ben_thatmustbeme benwerd https://github.com/misuba/UserColors
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benwerd Nice!
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ben_thatmustbeme also, everyone thinks i'm you all the time
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benwerd We are both called Ben, to be fair
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benwerd It's a fairly high cognitive load.
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benwerd People keep assuming I'm benward, so we continue to pay it forward.
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tantek we are strong in the bens here @IndieWebCamp
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ben_thatmustbeme considers getting ben.thatmustbe.us and just having it poll any indiewebber named ben and be a syndication of them all
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aaronpk hahaha
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tantek well now that you’ve dropped the domain in IRC you better go get it
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tantek you can make it a group blog of all the IndieWeb Bens
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benwerd :D
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tantek I think there might even be some indieweb software that supports multi-user ;)
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ben_thatmustbeme .us does not allow whois privacy though :/
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benwerd if only .ben was a tld
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tantek big.ben
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kylewm it's like a Highlander thing but instead of beheading each other, you just get higher visibility on Twitter
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benwerd literally my nickname growing up ;'(
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benwerd high school maybe not so full of the creativity.
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ben_thatmustbeme benwerd: same here....
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benwerd an army of bens named after giant bells.
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ben_thatmustbeme gentle ben came up from my parents. most people didn't know that show anymore
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benwerd I think that's a much nicer comparison. Friendly bears ftw.
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kylewm Gentle Ben worked at the home depot near me, huge guy, worked in the paint department
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seekr with so many bens, perhaps a better nick would be ben_thatMAYbe me :)
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ben_thatmustbeme sorry i had to run out on the demos there
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ben_thatmustbeme had to bring the baby to the ER
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ben_thatmustbeme turned out to be just something viral, but the way she was breathing the pediatrician said to go to the ER
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snarfed pediatricians++
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snarfed 99% of things parents think are a big deal, the pediatrician says nope, it's fine
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snarfed but when the pediatrician says it's a big deal…then yeah
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snarfed glad she's ok ben!
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seekr me too, ben - "better safe than sorry," eh?
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tantek hey what happened to the IndieAuth status on http://indiewebcamp.com/IndieAuth ?
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aaronpk moved to http://indiewebcamp.com/indieauth.com since it was indieauth.com specific
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tantek oh man - confusing everyone who used to look for it
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tantek y no forwarding link?
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benward @benwerd At this point I just have a disambiguation second on my about page: https://benward.uk/about
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@bitin Vigilance - WordPress Indieweb Post Kinds Cross Site Scripting, analysé le 13 05 2015- Secu Obs http://www.secuobs.com/revue/news/576887.shtml?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter via@Bitin (twitter.com/_/status/620664265913954304)
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benwerd benward: Just saw your Jekyll commit. I apologize once again for my username choice.
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aaronpk tantek: feel free to add a link on the /IndieAuth page if you think it's appropriate
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tantek ok will do
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aaronpk this is part of my goal to help keep indieauth.com separate from the idea of IndieAuth
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tantek benward++
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Loqi benward has 2 karma
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aaronpk wishing I had picked a real name for indieauth.com tho heh
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tantek ok I’m on it
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tantek aaronpk - perhaps time to update the site header to point to Edinburgh?
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aaronpk ah yes
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aaronpk snarfed++ just got your comment as a notification :)
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Loqi snarfed has 113 karma
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snarfed woot!
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Loqi yay!
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aaronpk thinking about publishing this list of notifications somewhere people can see them
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tantek like ben_thatmustbeme’s?
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aaronpk kind of, but just the notification text and a link, rather than trying to render an author h-card and everything
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aaronpk i already have http://aaronparecki.com/mentions but it would be like a plaintext version of that
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snarfed aaronpk: out of curiosity, do you only get salmentioned comments? not likes?
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snarfed i guess that depends on whether ben_thatmustbeme (et al) propagate likes, reposts, etc too
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aaronpk s/propagate/display
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aaronpk only comments right now, cause I only had 2.5 hours to work on it yesterday :)
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aaronpk ben already displays likes with markup, so as soon as I add support for looking for new likes explicitly I'll have those notifications too
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snarfed er, sorry, i meant whether you get notifs of thewm
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snarfed aha, ok. ignore me, poor reading comprehension today :P
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, anyone know benward's URL?
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benward benward.uk
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kylewm I was amused to learn about https://benword.com/ (in the Wordpress community)
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: would be cool on https://ben.thatmustbe.me/activity if the photo interactions showed a thumbnail of your photo after the text “on a photo"
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tantek same size as the facepic earlier on the line
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ben_thatmustbeme I have thought about that
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: I updated http://tantek.com/2015/193/t2/user-flow-permalinks-indieweb-swat0 to embed your notifications screenshots and link to your activity page
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ben_thatmustbeme benwerd: benward benatkin check out http://ben.thatmustbe.us
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ben_thatmustbeme hehe
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ben_thatmustbeme random redirect
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benwerd Ha!
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benwerd That's awesome
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seekr any time someone's feeling the need of a ben, s/he can just hit this site - instant gratification! :)
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ben_thatmustbeme benwerd: i'll make some sort of system for pulling in everyone's posts to one stream later
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GWG tantek, zachdonovan may have some bigger issues
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ben_thatmustbeme or... we can do micropub chaining
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GWG I think that HWC in NYC may need at least one more regular
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tantek GWG, no problem - if you think it’s not going to happen this week, feel free to remove the “New York” entries from this week’s HWC wiki page.
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GWG I think I need to regroup again
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@benward Finally a scalable solution to Ben collisions in the indieweb community: https://twitter.com/benwerd/status/620677272781991936 (twitter.com/_/status/620677883233566720)
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ben_thatmustbeme HAHAHA benwerd
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tantek benwerd++ lololol
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tantek what is lulz
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Loqi benwerd has 80 karma
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seekr sounds like a very ben-official solution
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Loqi "baby don't troll me . . . " ♫ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhrBDcQq2DM https://indiewebcamp.com/lulz
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benwerd Wait, shouldn't that be benward++ ..?
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benwerd so confused
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tantek benward++
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snarfed ben_thatmustbeme++ for making it
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Loqi benward has 3 karma
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 97 karma
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benward We've determined that it doesn't matter.
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benwerd ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi slow down!
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benwerd aha
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GWG tantek: As anti social as it is maybe one of the other IWCs will talky me in.
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snarfed lol right
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tantek sounds like it was a benspiracy
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benward Loqi-Bot needs to learn to accept `ben++` and randomly distribute karma to any of us.
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benward This works out very well for me, as the most idle Ben in the group.
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tantek.com edited /lulz (+51) "ben.thatmustbe.us" (view diff)
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tantek benward are you still on a custom Jekyll setup on benward.me?
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ben_thatmustbeme also note that i can make any other <name>.thatmustbe.us
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tantek do we have any other duplicate first names?
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme Can I reserve one?
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benward Yep. Well… actually a fairly standard jekyll set-up with some plugins and other egregious ruby hacks.
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tantek bret - what’s the latest set of indieweb plugins etc. for Jekyll?
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG, sure, you want david or dave?
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ben_thatmustbeme get me a list of URLs
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bret tantek: http://webmention.herokuapp.com
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aaronpk ben_thatmustbeme: you should just do it for all the first names on /irc-people :P
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bret its not jekyll specific, any static site can use it
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme: David.
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tantek you know - this could actually be useful if when curled it returned a list of h-cards of all the people in indieweb with that first name
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tantek then you could use it person-name-typing auto-suggest/auto-complete
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bret gitpub is a separate thing that is still being made generally useful
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bret eg falcon or p3k status ;)
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bret i've been implementing the pieces that make up git pub individually, thats what the bearer token module is apart of that I worked on yesterday
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aaronpk oh no did ben_thatmustbeme just get indie-sniped into making something useful with a joke domain?
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aaronpk :P
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snarfed only if he does it!
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ben_thatmustbeme aaronpk: actually i was thinking about just doing it for all urls on irc-people
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ben_thatmustbeme and have indie.thatmustbe.us
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aaronpk haha
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ben_thatmustbeme or indieweb.thatmustbeus
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ben_thatmustbeme s/beus/be.us
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme meant to say: or indieweb.thatmustbe.us
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: ind.ie.thatmustbe.us :P
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ben_thatmustbeme tantek, maybe i'll put it on lookup.thatmustbe.us i'm on shared hosting so I can't really do dynamic subdomains to easily
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tantek right
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ben_thatmustbeme lookup.thatmustbe.us/ben
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snarfed rootdomain++
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Loqi rootdomain has 1 karma
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KevinMarks_ time for chris to update this? https://www.flickr.com/photos/factoryjoe/4884073970/in/album-72157624857072984/
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aaronpk hey there are some screenshots of identica and buzz https://www.flickr.com/search/?tags=swat0
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aaronpk or are those just mockups?
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KevinMarks_ heh, tantek getting spam from the CEO of t-mobile
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KevinMarks_ https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/618938429259313152
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@JohnLegere Hmmmmm should I wear these tomorrow on TV to show @T-Mobile or Magenta Chucks? https://twitter.com/JohnLegere/status/618938429259313152/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/618938429259313152)
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tantek wow
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tantek I don’t even
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benwerd Now I want Known shoes
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gRegorLove Known: Just Post It
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bret its your call @t ;)
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gRegorLove Haha. You should reply seriously.
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gRegorLove Suggest shoes with an IWC logo instead
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ben_thatmustbeme now up.. david.thatmustbe.us
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ben_thatmustbeme hehe
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG ^^
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tantek KevinMarks - that Flickr diagram by Chris led me down a rabbithole to this 2010 SWAT0 discussion in an email list (google group), where benwerd is prominent: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/federated-social-web/zXamWQCbHI4/mFFyabdv3IsJ
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benwerd Really?!
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tantek yes the photo caption links to that email thread
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tantek note the token anti-social participant in a federated *social* web group who ends up getting moderated by Evan
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benwerd Well. Filed under "conversations I forgot I'd had".
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aaronpk heh "I'm specifically not diagramming photo tagging here because I want the
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aaronpk goal to be achievable."
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ben_thatmustbeme wait, what??
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aaronpk so much for that
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benwerd indieweb++
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Loqi indieweb has 5 karma
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tantek basically, no one had figured out how to actually do all that back then
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tantek nevermind on a mobile device, nevermind with push notifications
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kylewm anti-social guy also invoked the odious "so easy your mom can use it"
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tantek and the moderation of that thread killed the thread
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tantek benwerd - how close do you think Known is to implementing all of player A, B, or C’s implementation needs? http://indiewebcamp.com/SWAT0#implementation_requirements
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Jeena interesting http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjeena.net%2Fnotes%2F375 vs. http://glennjones.net/tools/microformats/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjeena.net%2Fnotes%2F375&callback=&dateformat=auto
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Jeena is it because of https?
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Jeena and I guess this is the same problem aaronpk has with my website
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aaronpk pin13.net is on the same server as my website
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Jeena ok, then it is the same problem
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aaronpk one day I will move my website to my new server and it won't be a problem anymore :)
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Jeena hehe
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Jeena I just wanted to show to a friend how easy it is to parse microformats and then it was empty :p
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aaronpk aw
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KartikPrabhu Jeena: https://kylewm.com/services/mf2?url=https%3A%2F%2Fjeena.net%2Fnotes%2F375
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KartikPrabhu or can use textbox entry at https://kartikprabhu.com/connection/mfparser or https://kylewm.com/services/mf2
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ben_thatmustbeme feel like reading a random indiewebber's site? indieweb.thatmustbe.us now live!
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tantek that’s kind of amazing
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ben_thatmustbeme indie.thatmustbe.us also works
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tantek what is thatmustbe.us?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "thatmustbe.us" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/wiki/index.php?action=edit&title=thatmustbe.us&summary=prompted+by+tantek+https%3A%2F%2Findiewebcamp.com%2Firc%2F2015-07-13%2Fline%2F1436819359822
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aaronpk that's great haha
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ben_thatmustbeme need to get benwerd to do that with known sites
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ben_thatmustbeme heh
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kylewm indiewebring!! sorta
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kylewm ben_thatmustbeme++
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme has 98 karma
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tantek indiewebroulette
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ben_thatmustbeme hehe
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ben_thatmustbeme ohh, close to breaking in to triple digit karma
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ben_thatmustbeme i'll work out doing the whole lookup service later
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Loqi slack/shaunguice: ben_thatmustbeme++ fantastic
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Zegnat ben_thatmustbeme++ for indiewebroulette
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aaronpk KartikPrabhu: just read your arrow of time article finally
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aaronpk did I miss something or is it mostly positive towards the decisions I made about navigation? i thought you said you were worried I might be offended about being picked on!
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tantek just saw KartikPrabhu’s question from this morning
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tantek re: if hfeed2atom provided an API so that you could generate a link to Atom version of your homepage would you use it to provide a traditional feed? - note my Atom feed has Atom/XML + AS/Atom so there’s probably more work to do there
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KartikPrabhu tantek: aah ok :P I am haivng trouble getting the XML valid i the first place :P
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tantek I sympathize
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tantek also my Atom/XML feed uses various edge features of the Atom 1.0 spec, just to see if legacy feed readers actually implement Atom 1.0 or if they’re just scraping
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: your navigation is consistent, even though I really think of any website as a reverse-chrnological book. SO to me "right to the past" makes more sense
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aaronpk huh, i did not get that impression after reading the article lol
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snarfed KartikPrabhu: i spent a fair amount of effort getting granary's atom right. html-inside-xml, cdata, etc. feel free to steal anything: https://github.com/snarfed/granary/blob/master/granary/templates/user_feed.atom , https://github.com/snarfed/granary/blob/master/granary/atom.py
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snarfed (including testing that various readers render it right)
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk: so it would be nice if you added "older" and "newer" words to the post permalink navigation too like your feed navigation
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KartikPrabhu snarfed: neat! thanks.
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aaronpk ah yeah
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snarfed nothing's ever easy :|
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KartikPrabhu except eggs
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KartikPrabhu oh wait "ever easy" not "over easy"
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tantek KartikPrabhu: nice list of so many examples! https://kartikprabhu.com/articles/webs-arrow-time
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tantek I’d say you’ve demonstrated there is no clear majority opinion on this matter
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KartikPrabhu thanks :) that is why I am confused. there is no consensus
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tantek and that makes it interesting and worthy of study & further analysis
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KartikPrabhu most worrying is that HTML5 rel-next/prev only says next/prev in a series
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aaronpk yeah taht was interesting
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KartikPrabhu so for example if a reader wanted to provide links to the next or prev post then rel seems useless
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tantek right, logical next/prev, not physical ;)
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tantek KartikPrabhu: “the series” is up to the publishing site to define ;)
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tantek so a reader could just define that as the series of posts in its stream
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KartikPrabhu i see
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KartikPrabhu right so on a reverse-chrono blog next = older but on a web-book next = future chapter
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KartikPrabhu but somehow on a youtube playlist "next" = "older" video which I might have already watched :P
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paulproteus ben_thatmustbeme: ..are you Ben Werd? (-:
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tantek checks http://aaronparecki.com/ for an IndieWebCamp 2015 Portland group photo :)
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paulproteus If so, hello (-:
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Zegnat who is ben_thatmustbeme?
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Loqi Ben Roberts Is a sysadmin and developer at a small company in Boston, MA who dreams of world domination https://indiewebcamp.com/User:Ben.thatmustbe.me
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paulproteus Ah ha. Shucks.
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tantek paulproteus: who is benwerd?
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Loqi https://indiewebcamp.com/User:Werd.io
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Zegnat There are a lot of Bens, that was a matter of discussion earlier actually ;)
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Zegnat who is benward?
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tantek I don’t know if benward has ever signed in with IndieAuth
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Zegnat Well, Loqi doesn’t know about him :(
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Loqi is done
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benward Plausibly not. It's been a while.
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Zegnat Loqi should learn about all the Bens
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aaronpk ben can make that happen
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: BTW, Push Notifications are enabled by default in Firefox 40 (current Firefox Beta) if you want to try that out
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tantek curious about how that works for you vs. Chrome’s support
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tantek (related bug# if you’re curious https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1153503 )
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bret ohh cool
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ben_thatmustbeme ohh, really?
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bret the problem i have now is that I get like 2 notifications from safari or chrome
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bret and now ill get 3 w ff
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ben_thatmustbeme i really need to work out the code to unify them, so to make sure i get a them synchronized
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tantek it’s like setting 3 alarms to make sure you get up
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ben_thatmustbeme i did it once manually
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bret im gonna have to decide which one I use for push
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bret lol tantek
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tantek ok I’m going to update /SWAT0 steps to reflect ben_thatmustbeme, aaronpk, and kylewm as the three players since they all did it with code they wrote themselves
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tantek any objections?
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tantek KevinMarks technically commented before kylewm did, but using kylewm’s reader.kylewm.com, to post to benwerd’s Known at known.kevinmarks.com
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tantek and I think they came in the same minute anyway?
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tantek I figured “more selfdogfoody” was a reasonable “tie breaker"
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ben_thatmustbeme Sorry KevinMarks_ KevinMarks KevinMarks1 KevinMarks2
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ben_thatmustbeme whichever one is the real you right now
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ben_thatmustbeme who started salmentions anyway? I think that was a big key piece we had needed
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ben_thatmustbeme definitely helped a lot
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Zegnat acegiak, I think, coined salmentions?
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Zegnat https://acegiak.net/2015/06/09/not-necessarily-threaded-comments-like-reddit-but-i-think-theres-broad-consensus-that-if-you-reply-to-a-reply-it-would-be/
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ben_thatmustbeme looks like its was acegiak and kylewm
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tantek ben_thatmustbeme: yes see http://indiewebcamp.com/timeline#2015
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tantek citation there for the post where acegiak first used the term salmentions
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tantek and if you look up to 2014 you’ll see reference to salmon-like
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tantek also from acegiak
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tantek the comment propagation concept was first introduced by Sandeep Shetty in 2013
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tantek (same guy that came up with webmention)
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tantek (who no-one here has met yet AFAIK)
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Zegnat (to be honest, this is the first time I hear about Sandeep, I think)
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ben_thatmustbeme he is our Satoshi Nakamoto haha
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mattepp Can anyone confirm that that indiewebcamp.com is telling me the truth that Homebrew Website Club is on for this Wednesday in Portland?
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aaronpk it is!
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mattepp fab!
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mattepp See you there. :)
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aaronpk the nice thing about the wiki is nothing is automatic, so there's no way to accidentally create recurring events :)
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mattepp cool, gtk
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mattepp I finally got around to doing the rel=me thing today. :)
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mattepp took seconds, just needed to make it a priority
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aaronpk nice
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tantek mattepp++
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mattepp ooh thanks!
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TysonNW Does anyone know of a known channel? I am troubleshooting some connection db issues.
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aaronpk I think it's #knownchat
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aaronpk tantek++ awesome
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tantek thanks aaronpk!
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tantek you all did the hardwork ;)
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aaronpk at least 1/3 of it anyway :P
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bret mattepp++
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bret cool welcome
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tantek ok /SWAT0 updated
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tantek now for some Etherpad -> wiki archiving
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tantek.com edited /2015/Brighton (+27) "/* Schedule */ link to page for Micropub session notes archive" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2015/Brighton/Micropub (+1912) "archived from etherpad" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /2015/Germany/Micropub-Apps (+957) "archived from etherpad" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /2015/Germany/Schedule (+42) "create link to page for archiving micropub notes" (view diff)
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tantek and with that I’ve archived THREE micropub sessions that happened to use the same Etherpad (Germany, Brighton, Portland)
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bret ncie
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tantek I figured best to archive the whole Etherpad
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GWG No photos of Indiewebcamp yet?
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tantek aaronpk ^^^ ;)
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GWG tantek: Brighton or Portland
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GWG tantek: I am trying to decide if I should document the book chat
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tantek Portland
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@kylewmahan no language can touch PHP for one-off jokey domains like https://indiewebcat.com/ and http://fatberg.org/ (twitter.com/_/status/620695241767530496)
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GWG tantek: I didn't see Brighton on the wiki
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tantek GWG: /2015/Brighton
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tantek Brace yourself, the Bridgy invitation flood is coming (for this week’s HWC SF)
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tantek s/yourself/yourselves
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Loqi tantek meant to say: Brace yourselves, the Bridgy invitation flood is coming (for this week’s HWC SF)
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GWG tantek: My question about talky is still unanswered
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tantek I missed it
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kylewm that's really funny that Loqi expanded my tweet from indieweb.thatmustbe.us to indiewebcat.com
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tantek that was so weird
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kylewm i wonder if he's been seeing different versions of that tweet for the last couple hours :P
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GWG tantek: Any chance I could watch a West Coast HWC?
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tantek GWG - totally possible!
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tantek just need to ping on IRC
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tantek there we go
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tantek coffee break time!
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