#indiewebcamp 2015-08-21

2015-08-21 UTC
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gRegorLove Re: whitespace, what does Known do?
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kylewm strangely <p><br />*</p>
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gRegorLove snarfed: I'm getting duplicate e-content in the parsed json (php and python), but don't see duplicate mf2, so not sure what's up: http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsnarfed.org%2F2015-08-20_gregorlove-com-imogen-heaps-speak-for-yourself
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kylewm that's a backcompat thing, I bet
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snarfed yup, probably that
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gRegorLove The first one includes the <div class="e-content">, interestingly
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kylewm e-content inside of entry-content
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gRegorLove checks the GH issue
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kylewm WordpressProblems
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gRegorLove s
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gRegorLove Ohh
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snarfed gRegorLove: is it a problem for your parser?
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gRegorLove Nah, it's a feature!
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gRegorLove I can work around it. My code just doesn't expect multi-values there.
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kylewm http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-issues#backcompat_classic_microformats_should_only_see_backcompat_properties
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snarfed yeah, all properties can be multi-valued, whee
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aaronpk it's really the vocab of the object that determines whether multi-value makes sense for a property
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Loqi aaronpk: colintedford left you a message 1 hour, 28 minutes ago: I stubbed /issue-tracker . Haven't captured your brainstorming there yet. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-08-20/line/1440113389545
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gRegorLove kylewm: Am I reading it right that parsers should ignore mf2 there since it has hentry instead of h-entry?
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kylewm sorry gRegorLove I linked to the wrong issue. it's actually the one after that
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kylewm "microformats2 root class names should only see microformats2 properties"
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gRegorLove I read both and am further confused, haha
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KevinMarks If you use my auto_link extension you get blockquote in notes from fragmentions
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KevinMarks (that was in response to earlier scrollback)
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gRegorLove Ah, it parsed fine on my end, actually. The post has an explicit p-name, which is all I'm displaying currently for comments.
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gRegorLove Need to make my comment logic more robust.
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snarfed prepares to file yet another bridgy facebook api bug
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snarfed feels oddly at peace with the universe
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kylewm.com edited /note (+700) "/* Indieweb whitespace thinking */ -1 the conclusion with explanation" (view diff)
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kylewm whoa, interesting case -- aaronpk reposted from tommorris and converted from <p>'s to linebreaks http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2015/08/10/4/
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kylewm hmm, could we perhaps add a content-type qualifier to e-*? that would also help handle sandeep's e-content which is Markdown
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kylewm something like <div class="e-content" data-e-content-type="text/plain"></div>?
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tantek.com edited /2015/Network_Flow (+4642) "archived notes from http://etherpad.indiewebcamp.com/network-flow" (view diff)
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tantek !tell Jeena I think I may have broken the likes on your post https://jeena.net/indiewebcamp-2015 with my like: http://tantek.com/2015/232/f1 (note the icon and link are both broken - possibly the mf2 parser you're using is out of date and/or doesn't handle the <base> tag?)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com edited /alphabet (-13) "/* Articles */ -extra" (view diff)
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KevinMarks kyle: could use lang="en-x-markdown" or something like thta - private use extension of the lang attribute
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kylewm i think that sounds reasonable, was adding lang parsing to mf2 already being considered?
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KevinMarks yes http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#Parse_language_information
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KevinMarks and the node version is parsing it
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cleverdevil blurgh... anyone have an idea why the h-reviewer on this post isn't working? -> http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcleverdevil.io%2F2015%2Fblood-rites-book-six-of-the-dresden-files
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cleverdevil trying to get this plugin to produce perfect h-review markup :P
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@tolaiso @TheRealDod indieweb looks cool from here :) (twitter.com/_/status/634589122955362304)
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KevinMarks cleverdevil: put p-reviewer on the same element as h-card to show you mean the h-card as the p-reviewer value, not a child fo the review
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snarfed wow. just realized my site's css is broken in chrome so it's comically enlarged
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snarfed ugh. i am so not a web developer
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snarfed weird that it's just chrome; ff and safari are fine. browser compatibility fffuuuuuuuuu
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colintedford.com edited /short-domains (+89) "/* us */ add cted.us, fix typo .me -> .us" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu !tell snarfed Chrome on Ubuntu shows your site fine. No abnormal zooming.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@pjf_ebooks Or is there any regular, language-agnostic (or #IndieWebCamp focused) hack-nights that happen in Melbourne? (twitter.com/_/status/634709701515542529)
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Loqi Welcome, indie-visitor! Set your nickname by typing /nick yourname
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@devleakslinks The #IndieWeb is important - it focuses on You, not the corporations that own the big silo content farms. http://devleaks.com/link/indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/634727430356365312)
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@badpandarecords very interesting concept and evolution of the album from @whitestonesays, hope they can make it happen: http://whitestone.io #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/634730334865764352)
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glennjones As part of the work on upgrading javascript microformats parser I added a online editor which live parses HTML as your type - http://microformatshiv.com/editor.html helpfull for testing snippets HTML markup as your coding
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ben_thatmustbeme glennjones++
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ben_thatmustbeme nice
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Loqi glennjones has 9 karma
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[snarfed] KaritikPrabhu: thanks! i figured out the same thing last night: the browser itself was zoomed in. :headdesk:
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Loqi [snarfed]: KartikPrabhu left you a message 6 hours, 27 minutes ago: Chrome on Ubuntu shows your site fine. No abnormal zooming. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-08-21/line/1440145872791
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@RikMende Loving #Indieweb https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/634742365710757888/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/634742365710757888)
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benwerd Congratulations rhiaro!
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benwerd On that note, is anyone in the Boston area? I'm on Cape Cod until the 29th, and planning on going up to the city one day next week.
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ben_thatmustbeme benwerd: I work in boston
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benwerd Cool! Any chance you have a free evening / lunchtime next week (ideally not Monday or Friday)?
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benwerd I'd love to say hello.
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ben_thatmustbeme certainly. lunch would be great. I'm working from home on wednesday and socailWG call on tuesday
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rhiaro Thanks benwerd :) not there till sept/Oct though
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ben_thatmustbeme so i guess that really leaves thursday
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benwerd Let me come back to you, but that would be fun
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benwerd rhiaro: I am very jealous. I love Cambridge / Boston so much. And obviously that's an amazing placement.
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@RikMende Wondering how @snarfed did his wordpress #indieweb implementation, might be the most clean wordpress .. http://www.rmendes.net/2015/wondering-how-snarfed-did-his-wordpress-indieweb-implementation-might-be (twitter.com/_/status/634744986047807488)
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@RikMende Wondering how @schnarfed did his wordpress #indieweb implementation, might be the most clean wordpress .. http://www.rmendes.net/2015/wondering-how-schnarfed-did-his-wordpress-indieweb-implementation-might-be (twitter.com/_/status/634745401896214528)
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ben_thatmustbeme yes and congrats rhiaro
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@RikMende RT @benwerd: Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/634749193786138625)
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@sirmlivesey RT @benwerd: Two years of being on the #indieweb http://werd.io/2015/two-years-of-being-on-the-indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/634749934357606400)
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@schnarfed @RikMende aww thanks! nothing special, just the usual indieweb plugins and a customized Ryu theme. https://snarfed.org/about#WordPress (twitter.com/_/status/634750592016105472)
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@RikMende @schnarfed so beside the indieweb plugin pack for wordpress and Ryu + custom CSS, nothing more? not even uf2 plugin? (twitter.com/_/status/634752605856616448)
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@RikMende @schnarfed what confuse me in the wordpress plugin list is plugins that are outside the #indieweb pack, not sure how to deal with & use (twitter.com/_/status/634752881325961216)
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@dshanske @RikMende @schnarfed I help maintain the IndieWeb plugin. We're always willing to accept suggestions about what to add. (twitter.com/_/status/634754072382447616)
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@RikMende @dshanske @schnarfed definitely..confused by those here : https://wordpress.org/plugins/webmention/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/semantic-linkbacks/ https://wordpress.org/plugins/syndication-links/ (twitter.com/_/status/634754417326206976)
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@dshanske @RikMende 1st implements webmentions support, second prettifies them, third adds links to syndicated versions. (twitter.com/_/status/634754897624334339)
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@RikMende @dshanske @schnarfed my goal is to reach the same #indieweb level with my wp instance then http://www.rmendes.net/ for http://www.euwatch.eu (twitter.com/_/status/634754973629288448)
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@RikMende @dshanske so those 3 can coexist with the #indieweb pack without contradiction or double use? (twitter.com/_/status/634755242765238272)
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@dshanske @RikMende The IndieWeb plugin is just an installer. (twitter.com/_/status/634755371874299904)
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@dshanske @RikMende If you need anything, visit the IndieWebCamp irc chat. (twitter.com/_/status/634756491866718209)
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@nobantu Final Hours of EBReg 4 Internet Identity Workshop Oct 27-29 https://www.eventbrite.com/e/internet-identity-workshop-xxi-21-2015b-tickets-16995007525 #IIW #UMA #privacy #OpenID #indieweb ++! @idworkshop (twitter.com/_/status/634757725956800512)
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KevinMarks !tell glennjones did you add "lang" parsing to the js parser?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Jeena damn, I haven't expected to having to deal with timezones on my own website
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message on 8/20 at 7:08pm: I think I may have broken the likes on your post https://jeena.net/indiewebcamp-2015 with my like: http://tantek.com/2015/232/f1 (note the icon and link are both broken - possibly the mf2 parser you're using is out of date and/or doesn't handle the <base> tag?) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-08-20/line/1440122905043
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aaronpk haha
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Loqi hehe
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Jeena but if I want to show that a event is happening "now" then I oddly have to
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aaronpk timezones wheee
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aaronpk yes, best to get that right from the beginning
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Jeena !tell tantek it's 2015, who in their right mind still uses <base> it's so 1998!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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tantek Jeena - you might not know this, but I tend to use the fringes of standards from time to time on my personal site, to help serve as a living test suite. I figured since my family name Çelik broke so many sites anyway, I might as well keep it up.
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Loqi tantek: Jeena left you a message 2 minutes ago: it's 2015, who in their right mind still uses <base> it's so 1998! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-08-21/line/1440176194989
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Jeena hehe yeah, I do that too from time to time
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tantek e.g. XHTML in my Atom entry titles which frustrates the legacy feed reader devs
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tantek maybe I should put an attribute in it like class="if-your-feed-reader-displays-this-it-is-violating-the-Atom-spec-RFC-4287-section-4.2.14"
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Jeena I guess I will need to fix it manually for now, sadly the ruby mf2 parser doesn't have a maintainer anymore https://github.com/G5/microformats2/issues/31#issuecomment-128828460
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tantek yes the ruby mf2 parser needs a major update
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tantek is ruby no longer popular?
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Jeena it is but not within the indieweb community
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Jeena everybody uses PHP and some Pythong
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tantek that's the web community even more broadly
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Jeena yeah
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tantek plus all the JS framework fashionistas of course
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Jeena oh yeah I forgot about them
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tantek yeah I'm totally going to put that in my div
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tantek for those that consume Atom
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loqi.me created /Universal_Greeting_Time (+104) "prompted by gRegorLove and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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loqi.me created /UGT (+36) "prompted by ben_thatmustbeme and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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aaronpk I really need the Ruby parser to be updated since that's what webmention.io is written in
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Jeena I see there is a issue for tanteks <base>-tag in there already https://github.com/G5/microformats2/issues/32
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KevinMarks why did you both choose ruby for those in the first place?
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Jeena ah and they updated the README too https://github.com/G5/microformats2/commit/1e9e65cf9e0bcc5a489883b890d57ebd7d269434
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Jeena KevinMarks my website was already written in Ruby
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Jeena I've been writing roby since I moved from PHP in 2007 or something
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Jeena ruby
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aaronpk i wrote indieauth.org and webmention.io in ruby because i wanted to get better at ruby and because there are good libraries that made it relatively quick to do
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tantek Jeena perhaps leave a comment on that issue 32 saying it would be useful to you too to see it fixed
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tantek ok updated my Atom feed
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ben_thatmustbeme grumble grumble ruby bugs the led me down
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tantek all my Atom <entry> titles start like this now:
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tantek <title type="xhtml"><div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" class="if-your-feed-reader-displays-this-then-it-is-violating-the-Atom-spec-RFC-4287-section-4.2.14"/>
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aaronpk lol
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ben_thatmustbeme haha
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tantek still a valid Atom feed. :success-kid:
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Zegnat is that atom licensed to the public domain, tantek? Would love to copy that markup
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tantek Zegnat - all yours - CC0 - enjoy.
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tantek we should all add that and then pile on the bug reports to the feed readers that are refusing to fix it
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aaronpk if I still had an atom feed I would :)
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Loqi yea
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tantek hahaha - I mean, hey Kartik
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tantek I will point out that the FIrefox display of tantek.com/updates.atom gets this right (no errant display of <div> markup)
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tantek now I just sit back and wait for someone who uses a broken feed reader to notice and take a screenshot and post it
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Jeena hm, weird, they do search for the <base> tag https://github.com/G5/microformats2/blob/master/lib/microformats2/collection.rb#L13
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tantek maybe it got half implemented?
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Jeena hm probably it doesn't go all the way down or something
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gRegorLove I'll add that to my atom feed, heh
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gRegorLove Know if feedly displays it properly or not?
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tantek gRegorLove: it does not. partially what is driving this. https://indiewebcamp.com/feedly#Fails_To_Handle_Atom_XHTML_titles
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tantek this way every user of feedly will see that in their reader
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tantek oh I should put the class first
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tantek hmm - I tried but looks like saveXML streams the xmlns attribute first in elements anyway
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tantek.com edited /feedly (+414) "/* Fails To Handle Atom XHTML titles */ sample markup to encourage fixing" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Actually, I may not. A couple friends subscribe in feedly and I don't want to annoy them, heh
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tantek Zegnat: atom code/markup now on the wiki, help yourself: https://indiewebcamp.com/feedly#Fails_To_Handle_Atom_XHTML_titles
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aaronpk isn't that the point? annoy people to get them to file bugs against their readers to fix it?
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tantek exactly
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tantek use social pressure for good
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gRegorLove Sure, if your readers are inclined/care enough to file bugs.
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gRegorLove Actually, reading the bug report, I guess mine have already been breaking, so can't hurt to add it.
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gRegorLove I used tantek's atom as a guide, so have the smlns in there.
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tantek s/smlns/xmlns
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tantek hopefully
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Loqi tantek meant to say: s/xmlns/xmlns
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tantek wat
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aaronpk weird
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gRegorLove s/smlns/xmlns/
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Loqi gRegorLove meant to say: I used tantek's atom as a guide, so have the xmlns in there.
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tantek is apparently good at breaking even Loqi
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Loqi :)
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andicascadesf Hi everyone!
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Loqi andicascadesf: KartikPrabhu left you a message 3 weeks, 2 days ago: it definitely is a good idea to have the indiewebcamp wiki be responsive and all that. I have no idea how hard that is to do with mediawiki which is a backend that runs it http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-29/line/1438154190017
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aaronpk hi!
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Loqi andicascadesf: tantek left you a message on 7/30 at 1:47pm: you asked 2015-07-29 at HWC-SF how another city could organize a Homebrew Website Club meetup - all documented on the page by that name: https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club - follow-up with any questions here in IRC! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-07-30/line/1438289275346
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andicascadesf I’m excited to announce that Jeffrey Zeldman has agreed to let me interview him for our Cascade launch in NYC.
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andicascadesf on September 24th
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andicascadesf Is there an indie web camp in NYC? I’d really like to spread the word!
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andicascadesf Organizers: David Shanske, Zachary Donovan
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andicascadesf not spread the word about the event. Spread the word about Indie Web Camp!
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Jeena hm here https://github.com/G5/microformats2/blob/master/lib/microformats2/property/foundation.rb#L28 they don't pass the @base, perhaps that's the problem
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kylewm andicascadesf: that would be awesome! I know GWG (David S) has had trouble drumming up attention for NYC events lately, I'm sure he would appreciate the signal boost!
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GWG andicascadesf: We've been trying to get a venue for an Indiewebcamp
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GWG andicascadesf: If you are interested, help is always appreciated
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@ladrupal RT @ChrisAldrich: I'm hosting a BoF session for #IndieWeb for Drupal at the upcoming @ladrupal #DrupalCamp http://2015.drupalcampla.com/sessions/indieweb-movement-and-drupal (twitter.com/_/status/634796020656812032)
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Jeena Hm, if tantek has those two on his website <base href="http://tantek.com/2015/" /> <link rel="icon" href="/logo.jpg" /> would the icon url be http://tantek.com/2015/logo.jpg or http://tantek.com/logo.jpg?
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KevinMarks hm. unmung shows http://tantek.com/logo.jpg
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Zegnat I think tantek.com/logo.jpg, because the starting / means the url is no longer a relative url, right?
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KevinMarks http://www.unmung.com/?html=%3Cbase+href%3D%22http%3A%2F%2Ftantek.com%2F2015%2F%22+%2F%3E+%3Clink+rel%3D%22icon%22+href%3D%22%2Flogo.jpg%22+%2F%3E+%3Clink+rel%3D%22another-icon%22+href%3D%22logo.jpg%22+%2F%3E+&pretty=on
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Jeena hm ok, I guess so Zegnat
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Jeena I never got around to understand the <base>-tag ^^
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gRegorLove Hmm
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gRegorLove I think another-icon should also be http://tantek.com/2015/logo.jpg ?
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Zegnat I guess the answer is somewhere in here, but I am horrible at reading these parser descriptions: https://url.spec.whatwg.org/
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gRegorLove Leading slash should be relative to the <base> AFAIK
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gRegorLove In absence of base, relative to the domain
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KevinMarks oh, really?
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KevinMarks 'cos thats not what html5lib or whetever is doing
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Jeena https://html.spec.whatwg.org/multipage/semantics.html#the-base-element only talks about relative urls
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Jeena I'll test what the browser is doing
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Zegnat I think the leading "/" might specifically mean "relative to root", in which case it is not affected by BASE
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KevinMarks path-absolute URL must be "/" followed by a path-relative URL.
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KevinMarks A path-relative URL must be zero or more path segments, separated from each other by "/", and not start with "/".
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Jeena firefox does what unmung does
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Jeena ok, thanks, now we know :D
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Zegnat I wish HTML books would use scientific citation to link to spec, Google Books turned up a nice example for BASE and also leading-/ : https://books.google.se/books?id=n7WGd4_cg6kC&pg=PA50&lpg=PA50&dq=leading+slash+and+base+element&source=bl&ots=RoUsw3rJPj&sig=1Lp_HG9PkYZJ26JmUouLqd6r-OQ&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=leading%20slash%20and%20base%20element&f=false
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gRegorLove Yep, ignore me. Oops. :)
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gRegorLove KevinMarks++
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Loqi KevinMarks has 153 karma
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Jeena Zegnat++
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Loqi Zegnat has 9 karma
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gRegorLove Zegnat++
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Loqi Zegnat has 10 karma
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Zegnat got to 10 karma, yeey!
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Jeena way to go! :D
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Jeena omg! I totally fixed this bug https://github.com/G5/microformats2/issues/32 see the last like on https://jeena.net/indiewebcamp-2015 which is this one http://tantek.com/2015/232/f1
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aaronpk nice!
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Jeena it would be nice if someone could do a sanity check before I send in a pull request https://github.com/jeena/microformats2/commit/6c90f01ae74e30d55449095c9ee62ddc38d8d106
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Jeena I'm especially not sure if photo always is a url
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aaronpk man i'm disappointed with this parser
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aaronpk it mixes vocab with syntax
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Jeena yeah it is really weird, It doesn't use the u- and p- and so on
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aaronpk oh not at all?
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Jeena perhaps I just don't understand the code yet
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kylewm you really might be better off starting from scratch on the parser if that's the case
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kylewm the parsing spec is basically pseudo-code, easy to translate to code if you know ruby (which I don't)
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aaronpk there's a photo class https://github.com/jeena/microformats2/blob/master/lib/microformats2/implied_property/photo.rb
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kylewm well implied properties *do* care about vocab
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Jeena yeah I added the to_s method there
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Jeena because I saw that url had it
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Jeena https://github.com/jeena/microformats2/blob/master/lib/microformats2/property.rb here it does something with the p-, u- etc.
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aaronpk i still haven't written any of the parsers and I plan to keep it that way
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Jeena I don't dare to write one, I was once in a class where John Hughes (one of the Haskell inventors) livecoded a parser to parse simple mathematical stuff like 1+1 and (2-3)*5
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Jeena I didn't understand a thing
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kylewm verrrrry little in common with a parser like that
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chreekat Jeena: john hughes is too smart for most mortals I suspect
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Jeena probably
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chreekat I was in the same room as him once; he asked very simple questions and it still completely crushed me
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Jeena hehe
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[dariusdunlap] I’m glad I saw the reminder about IIW. Just got my ticket. Join us if you can!
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gRegorLove Is IIW indieweb-related enough to put on /events?
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gRegorLove I just saw there's going to be an indieweb session at Drupcal Camp 8/29. Awesome!
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gRegorLove s/Drupcal/Drupal/
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Loqi gRegorLove meant to say: I just saw there's going to be an indieweb session at Drupal Camp 8/29. Awesome!
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tantek that is super cool!
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[dariusdunlap] Nice! Yeah, it’s quite related at basic principles. IIW is Identity, privacy, anonymity, etc. All the building blocks. Also, some of the more interesting people from the big companies are usually there.
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tantek dariusdunlap are you going?
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gRegorLove I'll add it. Looks like we had it listed in 2014
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gRegorLove I think KevinMarks was there, among others?
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tantek KevinMarks: are you going to the upcoming IIW?
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KevinMarks I usually go to IIW, if I can get a sponsored invite (If I have an employer who covers expense I pay)
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tantek can you get IIW to comp you as an independent?
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tantek (no harm in asking)
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gRegorLove /IIW redirects to last year's event notes page. Not sure if it should be redirected to this years, or a general IIW page.
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gRegorLove and/or if an h-event should be added to ^
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aaronpk i went to one a couple years ago
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aaronpk that's when I got all the indieauth stuff vetted by a few of the OAuth 2.0 group members
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tantek aaronpk pretty sure that was last year right?
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tantek yes: https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2014-05-06-iiw
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aaronpk wow
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tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/2014-05-06-iiw-indieauth
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aaronpk feels longer ago
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tantek because we've had a very dense 2014 and 2015 so far
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aaronpk http://aaronparecki.com/notes/2014/05/06/6/indieauth-iiw-indieweb
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Jeena tantek I fixed the ruby parser so it would work with your base-tag https://github.com/G5/microformats2/pull/33
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Jeena oh I see some test failed hm
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Jeena ah but not mine
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Jeena what is iiw
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "iiw" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/s/101p
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tantek yeah we do wat
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tantek see: https://indiewebcamp.com/iiw
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gRegorLove 3 letters, mysql fulltext threshold
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gRegorLove I think?
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gRegorLove what is HWC?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club is a bi-weekly meetup of people passionate about or interested in creating, improving, building, designing their own website, in the same structure as the Homebrew Computer Club meetings https://indiewebcamp.com/HWC
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gRegorLove Nevermind
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@aaronpk @jshardison think #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/634839254766628864)
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tbrb aaronpk: What's required to add an oauth provider to indieauth?
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aaronpk changes are there's already an OmniAuth strategy for it, but if not, that's step 1
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aaronpk if you want to be really nice you can send a PR to https://github.com/aaronpk/IndieAuth.com but if you just make the omniauth strategy i can add it to indieauth.com quickly
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tbrb Ah, there's already a strategy for it - https://github.com/sishen/omniauth-bitbucket
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aaronpk good idea
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aaronpk oh it also depends on whether the strategy returns the username in the auth response, and that it matches with the user profile URL on the service
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tbrb And the profile page on bitbucket is pretty straight forward in terms of css selectors to get the user's homepage url
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tbrb Ah, I'm not so familiar with how omniauth works
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tbrb goes digging
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aaronpk it doesn't scrape the web page
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aaronpk looks like it does https://github.com/sishen/omniauth-bitbucket/blob/master/lib/omniauth/strategies/bitbucket.rb#L20
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tbrb Ah cool
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aaronpk bitbucket already has rel=me on profile urls!
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tbrb Yup
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gRegorLove I logged into Myspace two days ago and today I got a notification email that a spammer "connected" to me and left a spam comment on one of my pictures. Glad some things haven't changed.
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tantek gRegorLove: I don't understand, I thought MySpace had deleted all profiles ages ago?
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gRegorLove Nope
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gRegorLove I think they deleted blog posts
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tantek huh
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gRegorLove Maybe accounts were in cryofreeze until you log in again. myspace.com/gregorlove showed up before I logged in, but I hadn't gotten any email notifications in ages, until I logged in the other day and got spam today.
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gRegorLove The fact that my top 8 still shows up there made me curious, so I logged in.
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aaronpk lol just noticed that facebook shows "maybe" rsvps in past tense after the event
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aaronpk "Shane might have gone"
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tantek what is top 8?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "top 8" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/s/101w
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tantek what is MySpace?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "MySpace" yet. Would you like to create it? http://indiewebcamp.com/s/101x
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gRegorLove MySpace was a popular social networking site in the 2000s that relaunched in 2013 as a music listening service with social aspects.
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Loqi ok
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