#indiewebcamp 2015-10-27

2015-10-27 UTC
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[kevinmarks] http://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=3907
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kylewm hehe
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KartikPrabhu more like "I have the sudden desire to run for office"
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GWG Evening
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unicyclic.com mal edited /indie-config (+504) "/* Status Option */" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /post-type-discovery (-58) "/* Next steps */ add next steps working with w3c copy, and note some next steps were completed!" (view diff)
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@kevinmarks I forgot to link to my notes from Homebrew Website Club last week: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2015-10-21.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/658921389982789632)
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@diddleapp RT @kevinmarks: I forgot to link to my notes from Homebrew Website Club last week: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2015-10-21.html #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/658922955884396544)
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kevinmarks voxpelli++
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Loqi voxpelli has 53 karma
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kevinmarks that was for dynamic updating of webmentions on my static site
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voxpelli :)
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@InramsT Piwik Is An IndieWeb Alternative To Google Analytics - http:///piwik-is-an-indieweb-alternative-to-google-analytics/ https://twitter.com/InramsT/status/658930624820940800/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/658930624820940800)
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petermolnar good morning
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petermolnar GWG: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/34455 - this is the filters ticket I've added
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petermolnar !tell GWG https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/34455 - this is the filters ticket I've added for Press This
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar hi all; I've encountered a pretty problematic situation of automatically deciding post type ( format ):
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petermolnar I have my own photos, identified by either the meta entries of the camera model OR by the meta copyright line
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petermolnar now, two things happened
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petermolnar a, posts that had a random image from flickr ( creative commons ) with the same camera model got identified as photo post
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petermolnar b, posts that used my own image but were actual long articles got identified as photo post
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petermolnar the latter is relatively easy, set a length limit for the post that describes if it's an article or not
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petermolnar but this length is tricky
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petermolnar is any of you using a similar approach? if yes, what kind of limit you set, is it by character, by word, and how long?
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[snarfed] petermolnar: out of curiosity, what do you use post type for? rendering decisions?
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[shaners] Petermolnar: I think content length is the wrong bit to check. Sometimes articles are short and sometimes photos have a long content.
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[shaners] Can you explicitly say at submit time what kind of post it is? Maybe with a hidden tag. Like:
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[shaners] .photo
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[shaners] Or
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[shaners] .article
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@sikkdays @benwerd We'd love to chat about Known and the indieweb movement on our podcast. I can email you more details, if you're interested. (twitter.com/_/status/659043105606266880)
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GWG Someday, someone will invite my to talk about Indieweb, instead of inviting me not to
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Loqi GWG: petermolnar left you a message 6 hours, 57 minutes ago: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/34455 - this is the filters ticket I've added for Press This http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-10-27/line/1445938767367
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voxpelli oh dear, pronouns is really language specific
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Zegnat Yep, voxpelli. Pronouns are a mess no matter how you cut it
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voxpelli Zegnat: and English isn't very representative complexity wise when it comes to such things :)
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Zegnat Well, English might have the most made-up-pronouns of any other language I know
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gRegorLove Most of our posts are really language specific, too.
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Zegnat "Constructed" I guess is the right word, as all words are "made up"
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voxpelli gRegorLove: but there's usually only one canonical h-card for a profile, which makes it more tricky in that regard
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Zegnat You could use the lang-attribute and specify multiple pronouns, I guess.
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gRegorLove I don't see how it's tricky. Three of us have examples set up
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voxpelli yeah, there's a suggestion for adding lang-attributes to mf2-parsing output: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#Parse_language_information
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gRegorLove Using p-x-pronoun-nominative, p-x-pronoun-oblique, p-x-pronoun-posessive
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voxpelli gRegorLove: are the three of you of non-english origin? ;)
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gRegorLove Are you saying the issue is lack of pronouns in some languages?
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voxpelli gRegorLove: nope, rather the opposite – an increased complexity in many non-english ones and a difficulty in that the grammar might not always map 1:1
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gregorlove.com edited /preferred_gender_pronoun (+0) "/* IndieWeb Examples */ implementation order" (view diff)
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voxpelli have some bad experiences with mapping english grammar to both swedish and german
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aaronpk english grammar is not usually the best one to start from
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Zegnat Have you specified on a per-language basis though, gRegorLove? I can see a problem when I have to define my pronouns for both English and Swedish texts, if mf2 parsing does not include language information
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voxpelli aaronpk: yeah, the "you" + gettext-based translations = interesting experiences :P
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Zegnat Ie. I wouldn’t want Loki to use Swedish pronouns when addressing me here on the channel
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gRegorLove I don't provide translations of my posts. Not fluent in other languages. Working on learning Spanish, though.
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voxpelli Zegnat: until mf2 pars language tags on a property level one has to assume the language is that of the page and rather link to alternate language versions or something through rel-alternate
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aaronpk voxpelli: lol i can imagine
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Zegnat voxpelli, yeah, but I don’t see myself ever setting up multiple copies of my hcard page
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kevinmarks if other languages need more cases, do put an issues line in
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Zegnat I wonder how people are doing it right now, maybe I should ask around and see if any Swedes who use “hen” use any specific English pronouns and how they inform others of this
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voxpelli not sure if eg. asian languages like japanese at all map to the indo european language grammars
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kevinmarks pronouns are complex - there are other weird UK one like 'her majesty' too
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voxpelli would be simpler of all languages just had a gender-neutral / species-neutral pronoun
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kevinmarks the differene between calling someone 'it' and 'they' is pretty significant in English, despite both being gender neutral
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Zegnat voxpelli, knowing our label culture, I bet you people wouldn’t be pleased with a single gender-neutral pronoun. It will just be used a lot in case X, and people who feel more like case Y will come up with their own
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voxpelli kevinmarks: aaronpk: more to original point – what can we do to move along the mf2 lang-attribute parsing?
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Zegnat voxpelli, do you have a usecase yet? Will you put separate Swedish and English pronouns on your hcard?
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kevinmarks publish examples, encourage parsers to pay attention
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voxpelli Zegnat: I will skip pronouns for now, but there are other examples at http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#Parse_language_information
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voxpelli my primary use case right now is the reverse of parsing – to publish content with explicit language over Micropub
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voxpelli and Micropub uses the parsed JSON
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aaronpk ah cool
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kevinmarks aha
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kevinmarks that makes sense - hard to publish examples if you can't pass them through
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aaronpk voxpelli: out of curiousity, what exactly is the workflow/use case you're targeting?
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aaronpk i suspect this is a similar problem to how I want to publish content in various feeds, not having everything in my main home page feed
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voxpelli aaronpk: original use case was to find a standardized way of defining whether an article was in swedish or in english
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aaronpk you mentioned wanting to specify that at publish time
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voxpelli and I also would prefer it if indie-readers could filter out my Swedish content easily for all of the non-swedish speakers out there
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aaronpk and you want to avoid publishing a separate english/swedish feed?
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voxpelli yes
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voxpelli I currently do publish an english only RSS-feed, but not an english-only h-feed
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voxpelli since all swedish readers will want the english content, the mixed feed makes most sense
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voxpelli especially as I don't translate any content – it's either in english or in swedisg, never in both
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voxpelli (would perhaps be kind of nice to publish an English abstract / summary for Swedish articles though)
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Zegnat sounds like what I am currently building, as I will be intertwining posts in 3 languages. But I am just going to put lang-attributes on the article-elements and call it a day
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kevinmarks voxpelli: that was Stephanie's solution, and I think it works well
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@singpolyma @closetgeekshow More legs than ever with #IndieWebCamp #Known and https://brid.gy/ (https://singpolyma.net/?post_type=actionstream&p=560814) (twitter.com/_/status/659068120108130304)
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@closetgeekshow @singpolyma I just signed up for Known and I totally forgot about IndieWebCamp (twitter.com/_/status/659070524614557696)
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@singpolyma @closetgeekshow I’m working on making GNU Social more #IndieWebCamp compatible as well. (https://singpolyma.net/?post_type=actionstream&p=560815) (twitter.com/_/status/659075341881729024)
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@brennannovak If you're in the PacNW or SF & care about the free / open / indieweb? Come to Web 1.0 Conf http://websiteconf.neocities.org https://twitter.com/brennannovak/status/659076017689112576/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/659076017689112576)
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@closetgeekshow @singpolyma i guess i need to know about GNU Social and dive back into the IndieWeb scene again (twitter.com/_/status/659077587935752193)
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@closetgeekshow Lol those #indiewebcamp people are some friendly folks /s https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2014-03-27/line/1395934641000 was looking for IndieWebCamp stuff and found this (twitter.com/_/status/659078313915187200)
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aaronpk sigh
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petermolnar re snarfed: I use the post type for rendering, yes, eg. adding EXIF at the end of the post of the featured image or not
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gRegorLove I don't really disagree with that original comment, though: https://twitter.com/closetgeekshow/status/449207285466669056
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@closetgeekshow I gotta say I'm not down with this "IndieWeb" moniker, like it's some new trend or invention it's just the old-style web's resurgence (twitter.com/_/status/449207285466669056)
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petermolnar re [shaners] I could easily do it with tags, but I'm looking for a way to do it with this kind of metadata :)
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gRegorLove I'm not anti the moniker, but, ::shrug::
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aaronpk how do you mean? there's a lot more going on here than old web resurgence
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aaronpk for example, barnaby's next comment pointing out that the old web never had cross-site commenting
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gRegorLove The core is just "own your own site"
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aaronpk you want old-style web resurgence, go here http://websiteconf.neocities.org/
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gRegorLove the old old web never had local comments either :)
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funwhilelost Guestbooks?
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aaronpk coincidentally at the same time as indiewebcamp MIT
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petermolnar guestbooks were public mails basically, site-wide stuff, never per topic or per post
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aaronpk i think we're doing a little more than bringing back the old web
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petermolnar there were some pages using a forum topic as comments for a post, with per post topics
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KartikPrabhu where is that smbc about arguing semantics again?
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gRegorLove hah, web 1.0 conference. nice
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funwhilelost I think it's a lot more. The "scratch your own itch" idea is something that I immediately get: it's about participating.
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voxpelli depends on what one calls the old web, the IndieWeb is kind of bringing the social media of post-web 2.0 back to the blog-roots of the early web-2.0 era
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KartikPrabhu yup ^
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aaronpk i'm sorry, i just don't have a lot of sympathy for criticism that is not based in reality
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KartikPrabhu yup ^
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davidpeach ello ello ello
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voxpelli petermolnar: regarding your post types – sure that you will always have enough data to automatically decide? sounds like it would be simpler to just define type explicitly
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davidpeach im playing around with my post types at the moment
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davidpeach am explicitly selecting type before posting atm
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davidpeach but am gonna change to just date slug and just display what fields are present for each post
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davidpeach after reading rhiaro / rhiaro_ 's post about post types
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KartikPrabhu explicit post types get useless real fast specially if you want to put many kinds of content together
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singpolyma aaronpk: depends how old. blogs+linkback is reasonably old
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petermolnar voxpelli that is the question I'm trying to solve; indeed definind a type is easy, however, combining situations of if-elseif-else where the checks include exif of featured images, certain patterns in content ( like fenced code blocks ) are enough for ~90%; the rest is where I'm realizing I need at least one type of taxonomy ( meta ) that helps
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aaronpk singpolyma: there's a pretty big difference between old trakback/pingback and what we're doing now though
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singpolyma aaronpk: uhhh... there is?
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gRegorLove The term "IndieWeb" makes sense to me as part of the event, IndieWebCamp, but I don't care for it a lot on its own. I'm unlikely to tell someone "I'm part of the IndieWeb" for example. I'm probably in the minority though. Not suggesting it be changed or not used or anything.
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aaronpk on the user interface side there sure is
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singpolyma aaronpk: oh, with known and such you mean? sure
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voxpelli KartikPrabhu: some kind of categorization that can help in determining post types, while not directly explicit, can be helpful though
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KartikPrabhu or even other sides
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aaronpk there's much more to all of this than protocols
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KartikPrabhu voxpelli: maybe but not sure of that
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KartikPrabhu voxpelli: I only distinguish between articles = I write HTML and note = I write plain text
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petermolnar singpolyma difference as in additions; the roots are the same
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voxpelli KartikPrabhu: such categorization can communicate intent that can't in itself by derived from the content alone I'm thinking :)
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voxpelli KartikPrabhu: oh, that sound smuch more fragile to me than explicitly marking an article as an article
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KartikPrabhu has worked well for me so far
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voxpelli KartikPrabhu: but now you can't put HTML in your notes :P
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aaronpk my difference between note and articles is whether one has a name
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petermolnar KartikPrabhu all my posts are either Markdown or empty - the latter has a url and a webmention type as meta, but that doesn't help telling a note, a photo or an article apart
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KartikPrabhu voxpelli: the point is if I have to out HTML then I write an article not a note
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voxpelli I think mine is the same, no title -> note
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aaronpk i also don't consider html markup to be a "note"
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KartikPrabhu yup ^
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KartikPrabhu autolinking stuff apart
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aaronpk a note that i write needs to render in full fidelity when someone else takes the plaintext version of it
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KartikPrabhu nods
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voxpelli KartikPrabhu: what if you want to add some metadata to the links then? ;)
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KartikPrabhu then I write article
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KartikPrabhu or put it in autolink
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gRegorLove My notes have HTML, though mostly because I don't do autolinking yet.
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voxpelli gRegorLove: I btw like the IndieWeb term as too much of discussions in tech today revolves around enterprise needs or startup needs, and the web should be for everyone
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voxpelli KartikPrabhu: how do you add metadata to your autolink? :P
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voxpelli like a rel-foo?
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KartikPrabhu do I need to?
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KartikPrabhu haven't found any case where I want to do that unless it is derived fro the URl
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gRegorLove What rels would you add on links in a note?
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voxpelli depends on whether you want to starts experimenting with new kinds of tagging or such in your notes I'm thinking, without extending your autolinking upfront to handle them
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aaronpk that kind of meta data i put *outside* the note
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KartikPrabhu like u-reply-to ^
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voxpelli aaronpk: good point
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KartikPrabhu the note content is always plaintext with possible autolinking
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KartikPrabhu e.g. one can easily autolink @personname
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KartikPrabhu an include h-card markup
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KartikPrabhu similarly autolink #thistag with rel-tag or u-tag
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gRegorLove Used Bridgy Publish to post a photo to Twitter for the first time. Smooth as butter.
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gRegorLove bridgy++
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Loqi bridgy has 29 karma
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KartikPrabhu actually for some reason Twitter's interface does not allow me to upload photos on FF so I have used bridgy for it ;)
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[shaners] Re: no "name" -> note, in Homesteading Articles only require `content`, but allow `title` and `subtitle` (combined to make `p-name`). Whereas Notes also only require `content` and disallow `title` and `subtitle` (in this case, `name` == `content`).
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davidpeach i love the idea of just posting content - no matter what 'type' it is. After few months of explicitly choosing which post type before writing
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Zegnat aaronpk: quick (2 part) question, is the Webmention logo your work and is it CC0 licensed?
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aaronpk yes and yes http://indiewebcamp.com/File:webmention-logo.svg
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Zegnat 👍
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kevinmarks did you see the spooky indieweb logo?
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[shaners] Nope. Got a URL?
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kevinmarks http://indiewebcamp.com/File:indiewebcampspider.jpg
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[shaners] Grool. Did @heathersabrina explicitly release that as public domain?
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funwhilelost Does anyone else feel like this doesn't explain anything about GNU Social? https://gnu.io/social/about/
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aaronpk wow yeah. the only thing that says what it does is "for joining groups and posting messages across servers"
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kevinmarks that doesn't really explain anything other than the history fo the codebase
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funwhilelost I'm actually a little confused about how it works. Does it federate the status updates across all GNU Social installs?
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funwhilelost https://git.gnu.io/gnu/gnu-social/blob/master/README.md
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singpolyma funwhilelost: what do you mean by "across all" ?
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singpolyma anyone on any instance can follow/reply to anyone on any other instance
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kevinmarks what is gnusocial?
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Loqi GNU social is an free software project that "will be a decentralized social network that you can install on your own server" https://indiewebcamp.com/gnusocial
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kevinmarks more info there maybe
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funwhilelost Interesting. So if you were to POSSE to GNU Social you'd post an ostatus update to a hub of your choice?
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kevinmarks lol http://indiewebcamp.com/gnusocial#Difficult_to_get_information_about
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funwhilelost lol
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singpolyma funwhilelost: could do. POSSE to GNU Social shouldn't be necessary, though. if you have a PuSH feed they can follow you directly
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singpolyma and I'm adding webmention as we speak
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kevinmarks singpolyma: can you update that wiki page to show how?
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funwhilelost Good point.
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voxpelli OStatus and the IndieWeb isn't that unlike each other
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voxpelli eg. Bridgy I believe is built on top of much OStatus tech
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kylewm singpolyma: kevinmarks: the wiki page has some info about subscribing to a non-gnusocial PuSH atom feed under Syndication; it would be great if you could expand it if you know more!
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kylewm mmm, Bridgy is only related to OStatus in that it uses ActivityStreams
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voxpelli singpolyma: btw, if you're interested, http://flattr.com/ has a full read-version of OStatus built into it
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voxpelli kylewm: well, OStatus is mainly ActivityStreams, PuSH, Salmon, Webfinger – so that's about 25% of all the tech :)
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kylewm :)
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singpolyma.net edited /GNU_social (-28) "Update instructions on following a feed with GNU Social" (view diff)
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singpolyma the paragraph "As so very often with GNU projects it is really difficult to get information about it fast, you have to search and find it all over the internet" seems unhelpfully pejoritive and mean, but I've left it for now since it wasn't part of my edit
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kylewm singpolyma: I'm +1 on removing that section
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kylewm paragraph*
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funwhilelost Yeah, after reading the GNU social entry I found this helpful, too: "the only reason to POSSE to a service is if a) you have friends on that service (otherwise you're just spamming), and b) that service only allows people to subscribe to local-to-the-service accounts."
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voxpelli singpolyma: another IndieWeb tech that would be interesting in regards to the GNU Social would be WebActions / Indie-Config
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voxpelli would make the "click on + Remote" a bit simpler as one could follow someone by clicking follow on their profile
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singpolyma voxpelli: GNU Social actually has something in that space also, so bringing the two communities in line on that would be nice, yeah
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kylewm the conversation linked to below the "difficult to get information about" criticism is actually interesting.
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voxpelli singpolyma: I have a vague memory that StatusNet experimented with registerProtocolHandler – Indie-Config is an extension of that basically
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singpolyma voxpelli: if someone with more knowledge of WebActions could file a feature request at https://git.gnu.io/gnu/gnu-social/issues it would help a lot :)
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tantek yes that's a better rewording kylewm
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tantek waves from Sapporo
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tantek voxpelli, kylewm saying that anything is similar "because ActivityStreams" is a bit misleading since there are so many different explicit non-interoperaperable versions of ActivityStreams - such a generic statement cannot be used to meaningfully express equivalence/support/interop
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tantek e.g. OStatus was *which* version of AS? AS1/Atom? AS1/JSON? etc.
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tantek and which version(s) does Bridgy tech currently support?
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snarfed somewhere between 1 and 2
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kylewm Bridgy is AS1/JSON, with little bits of AS2 sprinkled in
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tantek if you know of any code that claims "OStatus" support that consumes that successfully - let me know!
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snarfed are there more meaningful explicit AS versions than 1 and 2?
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snarfed honest question
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tantek snarfed: AS1/Atom - it's still in my updates.atom
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tantek not *more*, but still meaningful
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snarfed oh, serialization format. i guess i was thinking of that separately
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snarfed but eh sure i guess
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tantek snarfed: can't think of it separately if you're talking about equivalences / interop
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snarfed demurs
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kylewm what state is AS2 in these days?
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tantek which was the original point that was being made
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kylewm i haven't been keeping up with social wg
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tantek kylewm: AS2 is slowly iterating, bits are being simplified here and there
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tantek there are various open issues, though most of them do not impact real world implementations
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tantek is attempting to give at least a somewhat optimistic outlook on AS2
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voxpelli considering that Granary references eg. Cliqset as providing the same service before it I thought the roots within the OStatus world was evident
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voxpelli and OStatus always meant AS1 Atom
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voxpelli OStatus never went JSON as far as I know
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tantek voxpelli: that's probably worth clarifying on the /OStatus page (about OStatus being AS1/Atom only)
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tantek hah that's also funny because that means my personal site supports two OStatus layers (AS1/Atom, PuSH ;) )
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tantek perhaps I need to add to /OStatus#IndieWeb_Examples :)
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kevinmarks https://twitter.com/shanley/status/656901127368126464
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@shanley i'm also so disgusted that fucking PROGRAMMERS in SV are so fucking inept that they can't even build their own blogging site but details (twitter.com/_/status/656901127368126464)
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voxpelli one problem with OStatus: The spec of it is kind of gone
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tantek Wikipedia?
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voxpelli and it kind of was like the IndieWeb in that it only advocated for using certain other technologies together, so it in itself never was a very concrete thing
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tantek voxpelli: It was pitched fairly concretely as "the OStatus stack"
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tantek I believe we can look up presentations from Evan Prodromou at OSBridge maybe 2011?
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tantek or maybe 2010?
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aaronpk at some point in the near future we'll have enough specs to make "the indie stack"
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tantek whereas IndieWeb is certainly not (yet?) a "stack" per se, but I'd say first and foremost the /principles and community
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tantek aaronpk: the problem with declaring an "indie stack" is that stacks tend to ossify, rather than stay modular / replaceable
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aaronpk yeah
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tantek e.g. in 2011 we used pingback for distributed comments with h-entry
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voxpelli by calling OStatus a "stack" it gained certain leverage, so a pretty smart move
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tantek but now pingback is backcompat at best, and we've replaced it with webmention
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tantek voxpelli: it's not clear that "leverage" ammounted to much beyond marketing
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tantek at the time it *sounded* like it did, but didn't really get that far in terms of deployed implementations (plural)
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tantek also a stack feels too completist
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voxpelli compared to the predecessor "OpenMicroBlogging" it achieved much :)
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kevinmarks I need ot find my "I hack on the open stack" t-shirt
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tantek as in, if you feel compelled to implement the whole "stack" or not be "finished" or "complete"
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aaronpk microformats2 + webmention + salmention + PuSH = OStatus 2? ;)
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tantek and vice versa, once you complete whatever is "the stack" you feel done so you stop trying
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tantek no aaronpk the point is that the whole framing of a "stack" is bad
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kevinmarks https://developer.yahoo.com/blogs/ydn/open-stack-introduction-7534.html
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aaronpk ooh maybe we can make a layer cake diagram too
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tantek kevinmarks: already a page on it on the wiki - feel free to add
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tantek what is marketecture
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Loqi marchitecture is a term for architecture-like diagrams that contain lots of jargon, buzzwords, or marketing phrases for sales or political reasons yet make little actual sense, especially if you look at the apparent or implied relationships therein https://indiewebcamp.com/marketecture
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tantek what is marketecture
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Loqi marchitecture is a term for architecture-like diagrams that contain lots of jargon, buzzwords, or marketing phrases for sales or political reasons yet make little actual sense, especially if you look at the apparent or implied relationships therein https://indiewebcamp.com/marketecture
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tantek kevinmarks: feel free to add more "open stack" links there
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tantek layercakediagram--
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kevinmarks especially ones where the layers aren't layers
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aaronpk is feeling snarky today
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tantek I submit that something like IndieMark, which has levels, and axes is MUCH more useful than a "stack" in terms of 1) motivating people to get started, and feeling good about even just getting started, and 2) always feeling like there is something more they can do to be better.
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kevinmarks yes
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tantek a specific "stack" fails at both of those. it fails 1) because a stack looks like a lot of work to feel like you've done anything.
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kevinmarks we aren't building a stack, we're building components
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aaronpk speaking of which, indiewebify.me is ready to have people add things to it!
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tantek it fails 2) because once you're done with the stack, you lose motivation
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tantek stackframing--
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tantek is that worth capturing on a wiki page?
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tantek as in, what is the indieweb stack?
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voxpelli tantek: and perhaps it fails because it doesn't encourage many implementations
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tantek and answer with - there is stack. here's why
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tantek voxpelli: that comes from 1)
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voxpelli but also from that you're not encouraged to add anything more, so you can never beat the reference implementation
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tantek voxpelli: good point
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kylewm hehe stack framing
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kylewm tantek++ for wordplay
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[shaners] Anyone with a Heroku wanna test something out for me? (Or is willing to signup for Heroku [free] during this test)
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davidpeach restructuring my site database is proving a longer task than first thought
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davidpeach meh
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[shaners] It always does.
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kylewm @shaners I has a heroku, what do you need?
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[shaners] kylewm: go to here and click deploy. Lemme know how it goes.
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[shaners] https://github.com/homesteading/homesteading-server-rails
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[shaners] Thanks!
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kylewm mm, "There was an issuse building your app": https://gist.github.com/kylewm/503f04e88a594d13b5a9
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[shaners] I was in mid `git push`. Please try again?
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kylewm seems to have worked!
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[shaners] Weee. Did it redirect you to `/signup` after you clicked the `view site` (or whatever) button at the bottom of the dashboard?
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kylewm yes
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kylewm I think maybe I am missing some css
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kylewm https://mighty-ocean-7154.herokuapp.com/
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[shaners] Nope! There is no CSS yet. :smile:
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[shaners] That’s it for now.
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kylewm all good then!
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[shaners] Though, if you go to `/settings`, you can add any free form CSS you want to.
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[shaners] Thanks, kylewm!
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[shaners] I’ve got a few more issues to sort out before I can flip veganstraightedge.com over to the new Homesteading proper instead of my duct tape and popsicle sticks home grown thing.
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[shaners] kylewm: remaining issues https://github.com/homesteading/homesteading-server-rails/milestones/MVP
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