#indiewebcamp 2015-12-25

2015-12-25 UTC
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GWG I wonder if there is a danger in living in the p3k api space
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GWG Putting too many eggs into aaronpk's basket
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KartikPrabhu GWG: you canhost the Telegraph code yourself
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GWG Good point
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aaronpk it's also really just a fancy wrapper around the mention-client-php library, which Known is using :)
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GWG KartikPrabhu, anything new going on with you?
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KartikPrabhu aaronpk++ for telegraph
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Loqi aaronpk has 41 karma
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GWG aaronpk, I was considering using Atlas during my next geolocation iteration
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aaronpk cool!
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KartikPrabhu GWG: not on the indieweb front. Have been busy with IRL work
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aaronpk you can also host that one yourself . it doesn't even require a database
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GWG I'm sure that the secrets of the universe top Indieweb.
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KartikPrabhu though I am taking a break and writing an article this evening
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GWG Tomorrow is a big day for physics.
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KartikPrabhu ?
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tantek GWG ;)
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GWG Isaac Newton's birthday
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KartikPrabhu aah yes of course
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GWG I celebrate it every year
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GWG For me tomorrow is a big Indieweb day.
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GWG Tonight, I continue my time based improvements to include duration.
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GWG Tomorrow, I present media
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tantek GWG I look forward to how you present duration and media
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tantek since I just barely got /video posts working myself, I am interested in improving my own media/duration presentation
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GWG For now, the simplest way I can before 2016
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tantek still has a few more videos to post from EPCOT
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GWG Well, this is passive posting. As in listen, jam, watch, etc.
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tantek GWG, I still look forward to it! Especially if you've figured out good plain text design for it.
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GWG Working on it.
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GWG I
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GWG was wondering
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GWG a
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GWG about apis for media data to enhance the presentation
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GWG But I'm nowhere near ready for that
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GWG Hmmm... idea coming
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GWG Does anyone mark up movies, books, music, etc with microformats?
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KartikPrabhu GWG: not yet. But i'd like to move my book reviews from Goodreads
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GWG I have a design problem I have to work with
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KartikPrabhu GWG: better to solve problems for which you have actual examples rather than designing for possible future situations that you can only guess at
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tantek KartikPrabhu++ right on.
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Loqi KartikPrabhu has 123 karma
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GWG I'm not designing for future solutions. The future is adding things automatically. I always start with manual planning.
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KartikPrabhu what is twitter
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Loqi Twitter (also known as Twitter.com) is a popular content hosting silo most well known for 140 character text notes https://indiewebcamp.com/Twitter
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@callovarne RT @aaronpk: Just launched Telegraph: an API for sending webmentions! https://telegraph.p3k.io #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/680140764706242560/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/680264361022107648)
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kylewm aaronpk: is Telegraph doing anything with async status urls yet?
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aaronpk it logs them, but i haven't made it check for updates yet
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aaronpk the plan is to make it check them for updates, and send the callback URL a notification when the status changes
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kylewm should I file an issue to check for rel=status in the body of the response :)
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aaronpk heh sure
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aaronpk you want to return that instead of an http header?
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kylewm I can return an http header, but right now I don't
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aaronpk I'm gonna write this up as a proper extension, but I was thinking it makes sense for the endpoint to return "HTTP 202 Accepted" if there is no status URL, and "HTTP 201 Created" with the status URL in the Location header
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@tedcurran The #openweb is better than your silo, @Ev http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/24/0703.html #WordPress #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/680432731726032900)
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@rida_shah The #openweb is better than your silo, Ev http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/24/0703.html #WordPress #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/680433184375463936)
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@fonte011 RT @tedcurran: The #openweb is better than your silo, @Ev http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/24/0703.html #WordPress #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/680433389808316417)
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@LandOfWordpress RT @tedcurran: The #openweb is better than your silo, @Ev http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/24/0703.html #WordPress #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/680435996014448640)
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@rida_shah RT tedcurran: The #openweb is better than your silo, Ev http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/24/0703.html #WordPress #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/680436969344790528)
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[kevinmarks] Reacji for h-review? <http://fusion.net/story/247902/uber-emoji-and-the-future-of-ratings/
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GWG I do not understand emoji
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[snarfed] KevinMarks speaking of which, we should lobby ben_thatmustbeme to support your quote tweet reacji now that bridgy is backfeeding them!
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[snarfed] kylewm++ again for that
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Loqi kylewm has 279 karma
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GWG what is reacji?
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Loqi reacji is an emoji reaction, the use of a single emoji character in response to a post, introduced as a feature by Slack[1] https://indiewebcamp.com/reacji
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GWG Hello snarfed
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tantek what is tweet reacji?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "tweet reacji" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10AM
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tantek tweet reacji is /reacjweet
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loqi.me created /tweet_reacji (+22) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-12-25/line/1451072818742 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek KevinMarks: FWIW, a preselected menu of choices (emoji or not) is very different from any arbitrary emoji character.
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tantek both uber's happy meh sad faces, and FB's "six new reactions" are not really reacji (certainly not semantically), no more than LiveJournal's set of moods was reacji.
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tantek quoted text from http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-10-08/facebook-tests-new-emoji-alternatives-for-its-like-button
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tantek and FWIW the "Path" app has had a handful of reactions represented by a small number of emoji-like faces since 2012: http://techcrunch.com/2015/10/08/with-reactions-facebook-supercharges-the-like-button-with-6-empathetic-emoji/
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tantek so this notion is neither new, nor is it emoji
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@RikMende RT @tedcurran: The #openweb is better than your silo, @Ev http://scripting.com/liveblog/users/davewiner/2015/12/24/0703.html #WordPress #blogging #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/680516293380993025)
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@RikMende RT @aaronpk: Just launched Telegraph: an API for sending webmentions! https://telegraph.p3k.io #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/680140764706242560/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/680516345088348160)
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@RikMende RT @jkphl: is extremely happy to announce that @openSUSE will sponsor the @indiewebcamp #Nuremberg 2016 📅 Details TBA shortly 👉 https://t.c… (twitter.com/_/status/680518971376955393)
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[shaners] !tell gwg will you add markup examples of this to the wiki page please. <http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_hentry_problem
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Schnitz Hey there... this is awesome. Just learned today about IndieWebCamp. Will join and build my own Indie Web Site as of now... Hi everyone, this is great, finally something is happening, keep it up, I hate Silos :-)
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KartikPrabhu Schnitz: welcome. "hate" is not the right word. We all still use silos but we post to our sites first and then copy it over to Twitter etc...
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Schnitz KartikPrabhu: No worries, I know. Still I hate what happened to the Web. No offense. Tantek is right, its about user experience, and we all got it wrong back then. Its my fault too. Still I very much regret where we are today. 'I hate the situation', willing to do something to help change that, as far as I can...
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GWG Good evening
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KartikPrabhu cheers!
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Loqi GWG: [shaners] left you a message 33 minutes ago: will you add markup examples of this to the wiki page please. <http://indiewebcamp.com/WordPress_hentry_problem http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2015-12-25/line/1451083418949
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KartikPrabhu Schnitz: if you use Twitter, a good start is to post notes on your own site and POSSE them
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KartikPrabhu what is POSSE?
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Loqi POSSE is an abbreviation for Publish (on your) Own Site, Syndicate Elsewhere, a content publishing model that starts with posting content on your own domain first, then syndicating out copies to 3rd party services with permashortlinks back to the original on your site https://indiewebcamp.com/POSSE
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Schnitz I know what POSSE is, but thanks for the help. Nice IRC system BTW
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KartikPrabhu that's all aaronpk
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Schnitz I don't use twitter BTW
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GWG Schnitz: What do you use?
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Schnitz tumblr only right now. And email of course
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GWG Schnitz: What do you think you want to do first?
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Schnitz Meet Tantek over a drink... haha :-)
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Loqi rofl
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Schnitz GWG: no... well I actually already got belp.audio as a domain for my tumblr
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GWG Interesting. Do you live close enough for that to work?
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Schnitz and I like tumblr (a bit) since it has absolute URL for each post
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GWG I know plenty of people who do.
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Schnitz I will make belp.audio an indepedent site that then syndicates to tumblr
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GWG I'm a longstanding WordPress person.
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Schnitz no I live in Munich
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Schnitz Europe
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GWG I know of it. He seems to get around a lot though.
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Schnitz No worries, I'll bump into him sometime again...
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Schnitz No I'm not even going to use wordpress
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Schnitz I'll try any code as much as I can with static HTML pages and JS and see where I end up
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GWG Schnitz: Lots of people use static pages. I just said that I use WordPress. It isn't for everyone.
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Schnitz GWG: of course, I didn't get u wrong
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Schnitz Hey Tantek
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Schnitz Got == Good
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tantek reads logs
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Schnitz still smoke, off to buy some cigarettes at the gas station, be back in 10 mins...