#indiewebcamp 2016-02-21

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aaronpk 8/8 pass!
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aaronpk yesss this is amazing
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aaronparecki.com edited /p3k_naming_convention (+76) "xray is live!" (view diff)
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snarfed aaronpk++ congrats!
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Loqi aaronpk has 76 karma
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aaronpk it's barebones, only parses mf2 right now, but it implements the full authorship discovery algorithm!
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snarfed authorship is hard indeed :P https://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsnarfed.org%2F
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snarfed interesting, actual pages work ok. https://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Fsnarfed.org%2Fabout
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aaronpk actually feeds are just totally not implemented yet
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aaronpk oh funny, it thinks your about page is an h-entry
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snarfed my / does have an h-card outside of the h-feed
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aaronpk hm, your about page *is* an h-entry
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snarfed also the timeout seems a bit low? <4s?
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aaronpk yeah it's pretty low
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snarfed aww https://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbrid.gy%2Ftwitter%2Fschnarfed
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snarfed regardless
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snarfed congrats!
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aaronpk that one doesn't work because the h-card needs a url property of the page URL
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aaronpk that prevents false positives where it would just match the first h-card on a URL
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kylewm ^ had the same problem with silopub
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kylewm I did, on another thing
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aaronpk this is actually most useful for post permalinks anyway. that it works on h-cards at all is really just something i threw in because it wasn't much extra code
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aaronpk hm, looking at snarfed.org, is it actually safe to assume the first h-card (child item of the h-feed) represents the feed author?
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aaronpk snarfed: is it possible to add a p-author property on your h-card instead, so that it actually shows up as the author property of the h-feed?
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bear doesn't like my mf2 at all :/
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bear oh - requires a trailing /
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aaronpk i should probably normalize the input URL
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Loqi definitely
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aaronpk post permalinks look good tho! https://xray.p3k.io/parse?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbear.im%2Fbearlog%2F2016%2F031%2Fcongrats-to-aaron-for-his-2016-site-refactoring.html
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aaronpk oh wait that URL it found is bad
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bear hmm, looks like my about mf2 info is malformed
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bear finds my name, photo but gets the wrong url
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aaronpk i think i can fix that
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bear well, I have never checked if my h-card is correct
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bear odd - it finds the xmpp:// url out of the 6 or so I list as rel=me
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aaronpk it's just taking the first one right now, i'll make it smarter
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bear hmm, I should fix my h-card - it doesn't list itself at all
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aaronpk i see https://bear.im/ as the last url
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bear oh? ahh - I put it down with the footer
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bear cool - now I can rummage thru this code to clean up my authorship discovery :)
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GWG Okay, my main site is now using Let's Encrypt
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bear gwg++
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GWG Box ticked on To Do List
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aaronpk GWG++ congrats!
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Loqi GWG has 147 karma
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GWG It would be a better ++ if I wasn't avoiding more tax paperwork.
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aaronpk bear: fixed!
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bear aaronpk++
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aaronpk interesting. bear's feed page also has the author h-card as just another child of the feed
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bear is that wrong?
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aaronpk needs a version of the authorship algorithm for feed pages
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aaronpk I don't know, so far of the two examples i've looked at they've both done it that way!
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aaronpk so that means it can't be that wrong, right?
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bear well... it's too small of a sample really
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aaronpk i'm just not sure how i could programmatically tell that is the author
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aaronpk since a feed might contain other h-cards, like venues
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bear nods
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bear my h-card is outside of the part of <section /> that defines the h-feed
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bear I did that thinking it would be used as the h-card for the feed and not a item in it
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aaronpk oh you're right, i mis-read
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bear maybe the use of <section> is confusing it
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aaronpk then yeah theres' really no connection between that feed and the h-card
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bear except they appear on the same url
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aaronpk if there was a u-url property with the same URL as that h-card i could match them thatway
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bear a u-url for the h-feed?
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aaronpk u-author sorry
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aaronpk i'm looking at https://bear.im/bearlog/
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bear so am I
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aaronpk I suppose I could tell that all the entries have the same author URL, and that could imply the feed author
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bear my u-author points to my main h-card at /
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aaronpk the u-author of the h-entrys, yeah. but there's no author property on the feed itself
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bear do you have an example?
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sknebel (bear: bear.im/ links to circle.com as CircleCi, shouldn't that be circleci.com?)
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aaronpk http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fbear.im%2Fbearlog%2F
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aaronpk no author property there
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bear sknebel - oh? i'll fix that - thanks
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@kevinmarks @Joi @davewiner can I invite you both to indieWebcamp at MIT next month? http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (twitter.com/_/status/701223063648497664)
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bear aaronpk - do you have an example of a h-feed with a u-author I mean
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aaronpk oh, not yet
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bear aaronpk - ok, I just changed it to have a u-author <a> just inside of the h-feed
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snarfed aaronpk: still want me to add p-author? or is it under debate?
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aaronpk probably better to start collecting examples of what people have done so far instead of changing things
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aaronpk gotta run for now!
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bear waves
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Loqi [indieweb] "Aaron Parecki" by mathpunk https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/20/5/global-webmentions
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snarfed by mathpunk?
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[aaronpk] Oh dear
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@vengerovski Sending #webmention and pingback notifications with #PHP under the #W3C Social Web https://github.com/indieweb/mention-client-php (twitter.com/_/status/701254065754394625)
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Loqi [bridgy] Kevin Marks replied '@Joi that's a shame - do tell your media lab colleagues interested in the open w...' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/701252966653652992)
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Loqi [bridgy] Joi Ito replied '@kevinmarks @davewiner I'm Chicago those dates unfortunately...' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (https://twitter.com/Joi/status/701251555421507585)
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Loqi [bridgy] Joi Ito replied '@kevinmarks cc: @civicMIT @EthanZ @natematias @erhardt' to a tweet that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT (https://twitter.com/Joi/status/701253474000965632)
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[aaronpk] "We have approved your request for additional quota. Your new quota should take effect within one hour of receiving this message." \o/
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[aaronpk] Now I can launch XRay on app engine!
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snarfed interesting! yay
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Loqi woot
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snarfed aaronpk: first service of yours on app engine?
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snarfed i guess must not be if you're out of app ids
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@gogitservice RT @aaronpk I wrote some words about why I migrated away from Gitlab and Bitbucket to Gogs.io: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/13/18/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/698751408485462016/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701291013457973248)
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[aaronpk] indiewebify.me is on my account for a while now
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[aaronpk] I made a couple other attempt at apps there that I have since deleted
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[aaronpk] I think their counter is in total, not just currently running apps
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[aaronpk] But this will be the first that will get actual consistent usage, since it's going to be a dependency for webmention.io, Loqi, Monocle and my reply contexts!
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@zaherg RT @aaronpk I wrote some words about why I migrated away from Gitlab and Bitbucket to Gogs.io: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/13/18/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/698751408485462016/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701301418494447616)
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@blackibiza RT @aaronpk I wrote some words about why I migrated away from Gitlab and Bitbucket to Gogs.io: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/13/18/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/698751408485462016/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701310618616385539)
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@0x663030623472 RT @aaronpk I wrote some words about why I migrated away from Gitlab and Bitbucket to Gogs.io: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/13/18/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/698751408485462016/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701313863568990209)
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@rrrrrrrix Shoulda published this as a webmention, oh well. (twitter.com/_/status/701338793983410176)
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@sugarshackbb RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 73 (twitter.com/_/status/701344759487590401)
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@jabwriter RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 73 (twitter.com/_/status/701344360273723393)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 73 (twitter.com/_/status/701344115804532737)
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@adriansalter315 RT @WendyandCharles ReadersGazette: BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 73 (twitter.com/_/status/701349343761141761)
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@WendyandCharles ReadersGazette: BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 73 (twitter.com/_/status/701346571233976321)
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@Deiphos81 RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.jimheskett.com/indieauth Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 73 (twitter.com/_/status/701346112146427904)
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@matiwinnetou RT @aaronpk I wrote some words about why I migrated away from Gitlab and Bitbucket to Gogs.io: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/13/18/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/698751408485462016/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701350982618374144)
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Loqi [indieweb] "[priv] Going Silo-Private to Prefer the IndieWeb, Leave Silo Publics, and Pioneer Privacy on the Independent Web - Tantek" by maxbarners http://tantek.com/2016/048/b1/going-silo-private-prefer-indieweb
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aaronpk good morning!
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Tino good morning (end of the afternoon here) :)
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aaronpk hm can a post be a repost of multiple URLs?
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jeancflanagan.com edited /events/2016-02-24-homebrew-website-club (+43) "/* Washington, DC */ RSVP Jean Flanagan" (view diff)
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[kevinmarks] At that point it is more like a collection or a post with citations
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[kevinmarks] Tricky
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aaronpk maybe if someone was reposting a post that was syndicated they would include all the alternate URLs for the post?
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tantek aaronpk: that's like including all the comments for a post when reposting it
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tantek stuff about the post
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tantek I mean, we do some of that, e.g. beyond the permalink, the "name" of the post, author, author name, author URL, author icon
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aaronpk actually in that case wouldn't it be more appropriate to have the repost-of property be an h-cite that has syndication properties?
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tantek in reposts and reply-contexts
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tantek right
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tantek !tell GWG when was the last time you heard from zachdonovan?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG Right after IWC NYC. He said he'd been swamped at his new job.
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Loqi GWG: tantek left you a message 5 minutes ago: when was the last time you heard from zachdonovan? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-21/line/1456078733330
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tantek GWG, got it - at least you heard back!
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tantek so he's still interested, just constrained?
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GWG He was sorry he missed it.
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GWG Yes. When we tried HWC, he was in a different position
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tantek GWG, ask him when (like which month) this year might work for him for another IWC NYC
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GWG Will do. Can I propose a snowless month?
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GWG I was really upset I got stranded the last days.
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tantek !tell voxpelli have you seen thatemil in IRC? And how's HWC Malmö planning for 2016?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek GWG, sorry to hear about the stranding.
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tantek yes, a snowless month would be fine :)
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voxpelli tantek: HWC Malmö is on hold right now, both me and thatemil currently has too much on our plates :/
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Loqi voxpelli: tantek left you a message 2 minutes ago: have you seen thatemil in IRC? And how's HWC Malmö planning for 2016? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-21/line/1456079306445
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GWG Also hoping for more flexibility soon to attend things
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tantek.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+671) "Ask Organizers - first cut at listing active organizers from the above list, please add!" (view diff)
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tantek voxpelli: got it.
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voxpelli Hopefully we will rejoin in March or April
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tantek voxpelli: could you update https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Regular_Meetings accordingly ?
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tantek good to set expectations
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tantek speaking of
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tantek !tell jgarber hey time for you to edit and upgrade HWC DC to "Regular Meetings" from "Up and coming" - https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Meetings ! :)
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@haimoura RT @aaronpk I wrote some words about why I migrated away from Gitlab and Bitbucket to Gogs.io: https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/13/18/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/aaronpk/status/698751408485462016/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701478076472025088)
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tantek.com edited /2016 (-61) "/* RSVP */ placeholder for Indie event, FB copy, rm plancast (down)" (view diff)
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tantek hey aaronpk we need an IndieEvent to RSVP to for /2016 :) https://indiewebcamp.com/2016#RSVP (and FB POSSE copy if you don't mind!)
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aaronpk oh goody, time to test out my new RSVP handling
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Loqi [mention] Sarah Sharp wrote a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub https://webmention.io/notification/_tiJi2b1HJvK_ecXcOFOYg
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWeb Summit 2016" http://calagator.org/events/1250469845
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tantek aaronpk ^^^ confused about that Sarah Sharp notification - I don't see where she linked to *micropub*, just the bridgy notification of her tweet that linked to webmention
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aaronpk yeah bridgy thinks i have 4 websites
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aaronpk because i list micropub.net and oauth.net in my twitter bio
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aaronpk so every home page mention to me is also sent as a home page mention to those
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aaronpk I proposed a solution in IRC the other day. not sure where that left off.
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tantek did it get logged into a github issue at least?
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aaronpk looks like not
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tantek thought I saw something like a UI to uncheck domains it found for you or something
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aaronpk yeah
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tantek what about if there's a "website" then it takes precedence over any URLs in the bio?
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tantek I can understand that some people only put URLs in bios (have seen it I think)
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aaronpk i think a bunch of people actually want to link their twitter to multiple wbesites
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tantek with Bridgy?
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aaronpk yeah
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aaronpk which is why this got added in the first place
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tantek weird. was there a github issue that tracked that at least? would be interesting to see what drove this design (if a better design is possible)
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-11/line/1455222513863
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tantek wonder what happened to that histogram
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aaronpk https://github.com/snarfed/bridgy/issues/623
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tantek ok I'll bite
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tantek alright, offered a refined suggestion that does not require any config UI
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aaronpk no-ui++
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Loqi no-ui has 1 karma
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tantek configless++
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aaronpk that's better
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tantek UIs are fine. It's config/prefs that are a copout (most of the time)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Just to get this clear. Everything social media sucks. ..." http://belp.audio/post/139733123867
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@belp_audio Just to get this clear. Everything social media sucks. #indieweb (http://belp.audio/post/139733123867/just-to-get-this-clear-everything-social-media#_=_) https://twitter.com/belp_audio/status/701497978016534528/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701497978016534528)
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tantek perhaps we should do a parody album cover
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tantek Nevermind Social Media, Here's The Indie Web
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tantek aaronpk: if you feel like it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Mind_the_Bollocks,_Here's_the_Sex_Pistols
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aaronpk lol
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tantek what is social media?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "social media" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10En
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tantek social media is the marketing term for [[silos]] and silo [[posts]].
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Loqi ok
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Schnitz hi there
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Schnitz hi there
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tantek welcome back Schnitz
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Schnitz thanks pal...
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tantek Schnitz, your post "Just to get this clear. Everything social media sucks. ..." inspired this: https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-21/line/1456085445663
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Schnitz LOL
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Schnitz great! :-)
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Schnitz yeah definitely
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Schnitz ok I have this technical question
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tantek what is this?
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Loqi This. (AKA THIS. or This: or THIS:) is type of quotation post similar in meaning to a combined like & repost where the text "This." is stated on a line by itself after the quotation, or the text "This:" is stated before a quotation or URL to express a strong affirmation or agreement with the referenced quotation or article http://indiewebcamp.com/this
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Schnitz kinda unsure to ask, becuase I'm not quite sure my idea as a good one
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Schnitz but
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tantek we have technical answers for this :)
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Schnitz I trying to build this page http://schamonimusik.site44.com/
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Schnitz and I want to add the mobile views of the Silos under each of the h1s
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Schnitz as an iframe
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Schnitz (!)
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tantek that sounds like a kevinmarks hack :)
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Schnitz ah ok
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Schnitz I just want a start page that sits "ontop" of everything
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Schnitz should impress stupid silo users
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Schnitz where can I see kevinmarks example?
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Schnitz 'cos it seems some silos are blocking this
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tantek framebusting JS likely
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Schnitz specifically, I have trouble loading this https://m.facebook.com/Schamonifilm/ into an iframe
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tantek I wonder if you can iframe something and say don't run any scripts in it
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tantek that would be cool
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tantek totally want js;dr iframes!
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Schnitz right TANTEK!
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Schnitz yes exactly
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tantek I feel like CSP should be able to do that
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Schnitz wow thanks :-)
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tantek or maybe iframe sandbox
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Schnitz now If you had a page that basically aggregate all your silos representations into one page via e.g. iframes, its kinda like bridgy, you become the top level element again
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tantek sounds like a portal
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Schnitz well just for the eyes of the user, I know, accessibility problems, etc.
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Schnitz right right
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Schnitz BUT
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Schnitz having a hard time getting those silos to show me something I can put into an iframe... has anyone tried this`?
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Schnitz youtube for instance specifically allows this!
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Loqi [mention] https://aaronparecki.com/ wrote a post that linked to an event: "IndieWeb Summit" http://indiewebcamp.com/2016 https://webmention.io/notification/zgpiy9b9RossCPQgJf8oHA
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Schnitz but fb, souncloud and tumblr I have to check out right now, and fb doesn't seem to work
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Schnitz maybe there is for example yet another low-profile view of fb one could load? instead of "m.facebook" for mobile?
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tantek Schnitz: sounds like you're looking for an "embed"
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Schnitz yes!
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tantek many silos have oembed support for this
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Schnitz I see
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tantek still, an interesting use-case
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tantek definitely worth documenting
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Schnitz ok when you say so
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tantek do you have a mockup screenshot of what you want it to look like?
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Schnitz you can see it over at http://www.schamonimusik.com with 'upcoming' and then the embedded youtube video 'hanging' under the h1 as if it was part of the LINK
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Schnitz now imaging this with all your silo accounts
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tantek Schnitz: start building it one silo at a time, based on what you can get to work today!
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tantek aaronpk: I started outlining the schedule: https://indiewebcamp.com/2016#Schedule
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Schnitz I will, I basically am lacking documentation for e.g. facebook whether there is embed support, but I mind find that somewhere...
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Schnitz s/mind/might
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aaronpk oh I should make the ti.to registration page again. I think that worked well last year.
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Loqi Schnitz meant to say: I will, I basically am lacking documentation for e.g. facebook whether there is embed support, but I might find that somewhere...
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tantek ok I'll volunteer to help co-organize IWS :)
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aaronpk \o/
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tantek I can get Mozilla to sponsor coffee again too
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Schnitz ok great found tumblr
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Schnitz http://schamonimusik.tumblr.com/mobile
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Schnitz and yes that can be iframed, great: http://schamonimusik.site44.com/
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Schnitz need to update css
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Schnitz wow I wasn't aware that CSS cascades thru to an iframe...
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tantek.com edited /2016 (+409) "Past IndieWeb Summits, Moz will sponsor coffee" (view diff)
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tantek it does not
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tantek aaronpk, for /2013 /2014 /2015 , could you pick the "best" / most representative photo and shrink/float-right it like we have on /2012 and /2011 ?
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aaronpk wow the likespam on twitter is getting ridiculous
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@sirmlivesey Phones are powerful enough to be servers. Let them serve the data you want posting to platforms. #MWC #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/701510026133970944)
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tantek aaronpk: likespam is one of the things that motivated me to look into taking my IG private
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tantek even when I block/report the likespammers, their "like" still shows up on my photos
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tantek and thus people can still click through to them, from *my* content, which I don't want
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tantek same problem with Twitter actually
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aaronpk ick, yeah
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aaronpk and now bridgy is backfeeding these so my website links to them too
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tantek because neither implements /block correctly (unlike Flickr, who does block correctly)
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tantek ok this one is your
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tantek s/your/yours
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Loqi tantek meant to say: ok this one is yours
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tantek what is likespam?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "likespam" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Eo
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@FranceNet_Geek RT sirmlivesey Phones are powerful enough to be servers. Let them serve the data you want posting to platforms. #MWC #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/701510706294870016)
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aaronpk likespam is one of the things that motivated tantek to make his Instagram account private
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loqi.me created /likespam (+116) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-21/line/1456088095737 and dfn added by aaronpk" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek lol
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Schnitz tantek wow that *is* funky, no the CSS *does* cascade into the iframe, at least here on my chrome (need to check ff in a sec)... http://schamonimusik.site44.com/
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Schnitz the tumblr iframe
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tantek pretty sure that's a security problem if you can make that happen ;)
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Schnitz yes absolutely!
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Schnitz I remember very well, this shouldn't be possible
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Schnitz is bit puzzled right, needs dinner to think about what the options are now...
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tantek aaronpk, at least cite the IRC thread for /likespam so it has *some* context :P
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Schnitz if this hack really works I could potentially aggregate an embedded silo stream into an indieweb page and completely make it look like the rest of the page via css... not even showing anyone that the content is served from a silo(!) ... thats mindblowing!
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tantek sounds like stylish PESOS :P
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Schnitz depends
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Schnitz yeah POSSE of couese always better than PESOS, sure
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Schnitz it depends, because sometimes semantically silos are different
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Schnitz I thought about this for a while
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Schnitz for instance
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Schnitz schamonimusik fb is german
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@diplix #indieweb #webmentions https://twitter.com/alexmatzkeit/status/701499224396054531 (twitter.com/_/status/701513783429222400)
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Schnitz and schamonimusik tumblr is english
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Schnitz so POSSEing isn't so much the point
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Schnitz since you have different audiences
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Schnitz just as one example
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tantek Schnitz: you should chat with voxpelli about posting in multiple languages, I do think there are folks here who have thought about this and figured out good approaches, using their own websites.
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tantek I think Jeena also does this
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Schnitz interesting, noted!
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@RikMende RT @sirmlivesey Phones are powerful enough to be servers. Let them serve the data you want posting to platforms. #MWC #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/701514048584728576)
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tantek and there's a few folks who write posts in German and/or English
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Schnitz thanks for that piece of information, tantek
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aaronpk getting webmentions from stackoverflow posts is pretty neat
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aaronpk https://webmention.io/notification/kfkjMS8gCuLtenTn7IW46g
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voxpelli one multilanguage related thing is: http://microformats.org/wiki/microformats2-parsing-brainstorming#Parse_language_information
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Loqi microformats2 parsing brainstorming
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voxpelli Would be great with additional feedback on that I think
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@RikMende RT @belp_audio Just to get this clear. Everything social media sucks. #indieweb (http://belp.audio/post/139733123867/just-to-get-this-clear-everything-social-media#_=_) https://twitter.com/belp_audio/status/701497978016534528/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/701515216283111424)
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Schnitz is away
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aaronparecki.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:indiewebcamp-2013.jpg]]""
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aaronpk !tell tantek do you want me to replace the large photos on /2013 /2014 /2015 or should I move those down to put the thumbnail up at the top?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell him that when I see him next
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@RikMende RT @tinokremer 235 Days on the Indieweb; something changed #indieweb https://tinokremer.nl/2016/235-days-on-the-indieweb-something-changed (twitter.com/_/status/701516874903896069)
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@RikMende RT @aaronpk Enabling Global Webmentions with Telegraph and @Superfeedr https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/20/5/ #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/701516942096650242)
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@RikMende bookmarked from Aaron Parecki, use Telegraph to receive webmentions #indieweb https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/20/5/global-webmentions (twitter.com/_/status/701518011363004416)
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Loqi [indieweb] "bookmarked from Aaron Parecki, use Telegraph to receive webmentions #indieweb" by Rick Mendes https://aaronparecki.com/2016/02/20/5/global-webmentions
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Loqi [mention] Timothy Hales wrote a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub https://webmention.io/notification/-r23zF62qWmmNG5bLTO1mw
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@tedder42 @ScaleItRon okay, but I think twtxt is cool in the indieweb way too. (twitter.com/_/status/701524963061182464)
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aaronpk just restored my articles.atom and notes.atom URLs thanks to granary-demo.appspot.com
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aaronpk and just saw a bot crawl them which is running https://github.com/swanson/stringer
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Schnitz back
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Guest71019 aaronpk, the mini-float-right-photos at the top should be *in addition* to, and likely should even be marked up with u-featured!
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KartikPrabhu mini-float-right-photos?
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tantek_ kartikprabhu see /2012 for an example
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Loqi tantek_: aaronpk left you a message 1 hour ago: do you want me to replace the large photos on /2013 /2014 /2015 or should I move those down to put the thumbnail up at the top? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-02-21/line/1456089478368
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tantek_ is looking through old email archives and finding email notifications of comments on /Plancast posts - may need to mine those later for import now that plancast.com is down
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KartikPrabhu oh i see. I thought you were talking about aaronpk's site
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tantek_ ideally all of our pages should have *some* sort of u-featured photo or graphic for nicer embedding / link-preview
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tantek_ it makes sense to start with the pages that already have nice photos, like all our events
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KartikPrabhu do people consume u-featured? apart from KevinMarks' story cards
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tantek_ ok that we have emojicon placeholders in many others
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tantek_ kartikprabhu not sure - perhaps try the /readers
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charles.stanho.pe edited /snarkinition (+0) "/* See Also */ Fixed link to CSS Framework" (view diff)
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tantek__ speaking of
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tantek__ Google haz zero results: https://www.google.com/search?q=snarkinition (right now)
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tantek__ whereas Yahoo already has it: https://search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?p="snarkinition"
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tantek__ and I didn't realize that I was apparently making up the term as it were
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@leibniz #IndieWebCamp status w/ my Jekyll blog: ✅ Got my own domain name ✅ Set up Web Sign In ✅ Marked up my content ❌ Webmentions ❌ Auto POSSEing (twitter.com/_/status/701535430932619264)
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singpolyma Just tested, and https://social.umeahackerspace.se/ is now running my code to be #indieweb compatible. should both send and accept webmention
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