#indiewebcamp 2016-03-07

2016-03-07 UTC
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tantek
good evening #indiewebcamp
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tantek
why are events hard?
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GWG
Good evening, tantek.
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tantek
just went to FB to create a private event (since I don't support events nor private posts on my own site yet) and there's no obvious way to do it
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tantek
There's a status text box, a button for photo/video, and a life event
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tantek
but no button or obvious UI to create a new event
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GWG
Someday I hope to have enough events to make event creation worth focusing on.
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tantek
what is create?
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Loqi
create in the context of the indieweb refers to the act of and UI for creating a new post, in its simplest form, a new note https://indiewebcamp.com/create
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tantek
Perhaps the event system is completely different
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tantek
ah, in the profile/events page there's a [ + Create Event ] button and [ ✏️ ] (Manage) button
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tantek
a-ha, on the /events page (which redirects to events/upcoming ) There's also a [ + Create ] button in the left column
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tantek
thus event creation is only provided contextually, when viewing your events or your calendar
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tantek
I wonder if that's deliberate or just an accidental outcome of their current iterative UI
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
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tantek
This is very odd. Their general "create" UI has a "life event" option but no "event" option. Do people really create more "life events" than "events"?!?
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tantek
That seems unlikely
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KartikPrabhu
from my personal anecdotal evidence -- yes
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KartikPrabhu
as in I se more "life events" than "events" on my FB "wall"
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tantek
really confused by that
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KartikPrabhu
FB is mostly for "emotional" posting rather than "organisational" posts
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KartikPrabhu
so life events like "moved to Chicago", "married to so and so", in a relationship etc... are more frequent
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tantek
are life events really that frequent? You may be seeing more purely because of The Algorithm™
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KartikPrabhu
than "hosting dinner"
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: oh sure maybe the Algo plays a part which why I prefaced with personal anectodal evidence
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tantek
well the UI definitely *encourages* creating more life events
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tantek
so that aspect may be deliberate
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KartikPrabhu
which might feedback into them being more frequent as they are easier to create
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KartikPrabhu
just like why I have more "notes" than "articles"
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KartikPrabhu
on my site.
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tantek
there's no reason a life event should be easier to create than a normal event
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KartikPrabhu
that is a deliberate decision too on my part
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[kevinmarks]
They effectively wrap separate apps into tabs
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[kevinmarks]
So you click events to go into the calendar app
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tantek
but that's an incomplete / broken split
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tantek
you don't go into the status app, nor the photos app, nor the videos app, nor the life events app
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tantek
nor the checkin app
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tantek
you *create* something by typing and then you add aspects to it
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KartikPrabhu
tantek: in a good UI yes I would agree
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tantek
events / calendar is *different* in this regard, hence the questioning
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tantek
KartikPrabhu: I'm describing their existing UI for notes photos video
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KartikPrabhu
yes, which is a good UI IMO
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KartikPrabhu
that brings up a question: how many people on the Indieweb use a "unified" UI for different post-types?
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tantek
I have a split between notes/photos/videos/rsvps, likes, articles
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KartikPrabhu
I have notes/articles
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KartikPrabhu
but yes that would be an interesting poll for Indieweb users :)
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tantek
and I'm adding more to auto_link to eventually make it possible to write articles like notes
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tantek
per my Markdown replacement
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cweiske.de
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tantek
why do I have to upload a photo when there are already photos in FB to choose from?
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tantek.com
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tantek.com
edited /create (+307) "/* Facebook Events */ Issues, photos should allow choosing from existing, guests should be able to invite mutual friends"
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tantek
GWG, until that day, I am going to keep documenting existing event UIs
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tantek
appears that you have to choose between a "Public" event, "Private" where invitees can invite friends, and "Private" by host invitation only
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tantek.com
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prtksxna
GWG: Congratulations on getting all the changes you needed in the new release :)
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Loqi
[mention] felix schwenzel commented 'theoretisch ist das sehr geschmeidig, wie ich es mache, praktisch furchtbar komp...' on a post that linked to http://indiewebcamp.com/micropub (http://wirres.net/article/articleview/9493/1/54/)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "antwort auf einen eintrag auf www.facebook.com" by ix@wirres.net (felix schwenzel) http://wirres.net/article/articleview/9493/1/0/
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Loqi
[indieweb] "antwort auf einen eintrag auf www.facebook.com" by ix@wirres.net (felix schwenzel) http://wirres.net/article/articleview/9493/1/54/
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prtksxna
petermolnar: Very descriptive…description.
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Loqi
Gary Pendergast
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prtksxna
petermolnar: Ah! Thanks :)
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@evucan
Thanks to @mothersele @DrupalCampLDN for an interesting talk on the gentrification of the web and bringing @indiewebcamp to our attentions.
(twitter.com/_/status/706779751768309760)
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petermolnar.eu
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petermolnar
"gentrification of the web" wat?
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petermolnar
adactio "All times are Pacific Time unless otherwise noted in venues." you may want to add a GMT to the times
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cweiske
.. or automatically adjust to the browser's timezone
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cweiske
via javascript for example
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petermolnar
cweiske that sentence is on the HWC page
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petermolnar
the browser tz has nothing to do with it in this case
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petermolnar
however, I believe the Brighton HWC is not in Pacific time 18:30 PM
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cweiske
petermolnar, I'm saying that automatically converting times to the browser's timezone would help
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petermolnar
I'd never try to automate timezones without confirmation
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petermolnar
becase they are evil
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cweiske
why wouldn't I want to see times in my timezone?
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petermolnar
you might go through a proxy and end up seeing tz for the proxy
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cweiske
what if conversion is done via javascript?
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cweiske
so the original timezone is sent out, and the JS replaces it with the local time
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petermolnar
I know technically it can be done, but instead of a fully automated, trying to be smart thing, I'd ask for a confirmation at the end ( are you sure this is going to be in Pacific time? You seem to be in CET right now. )
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petermolnar
or just use UTC
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cweiske
petermolnar, I would do it only do for display purposes
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cweiske
not when editing
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petermolnar
that is better, but the timezone should always be shown
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cweiske
this could even be a browser feature
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adactio.com
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adactio
There. I fixed it.
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Loqi
adactio: tantek left you a message 1 day, 17 hours ago: is there a HWC Brighton this week? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-03-09-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-05/line/1457201777767
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petermolnar
this might interest some: http://flif.info/index.html "FLIF - Free Lossless Image Format" it claims to be "Responsive by design"
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GWG
Morning
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pfefferle
good morning
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GWG
pfefferle, I have a link for you.
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Loqi
[David Shanske] Comment Improvements in WordPress 4.4/4.5
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tantek
lol "timezoneism"
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tantek
petermolnar: there are very few explicit search results for "gentrification of the Web" - definitely something we can document
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tantek
the references are from 2015, 2006, 2004, and 2000
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tantek
so it's not clear which of those the tweet is referring to
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tantek
weird, all references are about different things using vaguely similar metaphors
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@drozas
Great #DCLondon talk by @mothersele on effects of gentrification on #freeSoftware comm. and need to #redecentralise [photo]
(twitter.com/_/status/706088629089771520)
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tantek
aaronpk: have we discussed having Loqi do OPD on silo posts and show those instead?
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Loqi
woot!
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Loqi
[bridgy] Colin Devroe replied '@adactio Are these ever streamed online or recorded?' to a tweet that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-03-09-homebrew-website-club (https://twitter.com/cdevroe/status/706864037469011968)
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aaronpk
we have not
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alpower
Morning! QQ: I run my site on middleman/GHPages (https://alpower.com) but am looking to set up a POSSE type setup for my posts (-> Medium) and also PESOS (for Instagram, Pinboard etc). Current blog is just a bunch of markdown files really. I believe I need to move beyond a static site to achieve this - does anyone have any experience with a similar setup? Am thinking I might have to move to something like DigitalOcean and either roll my own simple
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alpower
find a suitable simple CMS that can handle this. Any advice/thoughts as to options?
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petermolnar
alpower Medium pull in content via RSS, that is probably the easiest approach
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petermolnar
for automatic PESOS you will need code, yes
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alpower
thanks petermolnar - I'll have a dig into the indieweb site for more info on PESOS options.
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petermolnar
for inspirations on instagram, I recommend looking at http://indiewebcamp.com/ownyourgram
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tantek
petermolnar: do we have a good micropub -> GHPages solution yet?
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petermolnar
I'm not aware of it, not being a big believer on GHpages
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tantek
would seem to be doable, github auth and go
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petermolnar
that is true
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tantek
depending on static page formats of course
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aaronpk
github pages is just a file hosting service, so it's actually more of a matter of micropub to whatever static site system you're using that publishes to github pages
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aaronpk
for example someone could set up a micropub service that works with middleman, but it wouldn't necessarily work with a node.js based static site generator
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sknebel
well, github pages has integrated jekyll support, so it's not *just* static file hosting
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sknebel
if you have a jekyll setup that fits in what they support, they'll build your pages for you on push
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aaronpk
true, but that's still just one of the many static site generators out there
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aaronpk
also obvs not what alpower is using
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alpower
as there's not really much there on my blog currently, I'm happy to change it :)
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aaronpk
i'm not suggesting changing it :) use whatever is comfortable!
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pfefferle
GWG have read it already ;)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Indieweb Post Kinds" by David Shanske https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb-post-kinds/#post-77573
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alpower
thanks for those links aaronpk - will have a look into both of those.
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GWG
pfefferle: It is a list of things I want to use in Semantic Linkbacks and webmentions
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pfefferle
GWG but it seems that they removed the filter https://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/36661
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GWG
pfefferle: What do you mean?
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sknebel
alpower: are you currently running middleman on your local computer?
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GWG
pfefferle: I don't see any removal
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tantek
wow "gentrification of the web" seems to mean so many different things, it's like whatever people are annoyed about the web changing
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alpower
sknebel yes - I run locally, then use a plugin as part of deploy process to GH pages.
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tantek
maybe that's the problem with the term "gentrification?" - it's come to mean any change that the speaker dislikes?
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alpower
which then itself commits changes, which GH pages deploys, which is then served up by CloudFlare
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pfefferle
GWG I don't see anything that helps us preprocess anything...
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tantek
fears he has stepped into a rabbithole
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tantek
what is the gentrification of the web?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "gentrification of the web" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Fr
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GWG
pfefferle: If you can now store comment meta by putting it into $commentdata, then how many steps can you simplify the code by for one.
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tantek
gentrification of the web is an expression used by writers to refer to changes happening (or expected) in the web that they dislike, disagree with, or fear.
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sknebel
alpower: you might want to set it up with some continuous integration provider?
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tantek
I blame you petermolnar
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petermolnar
reading back
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sknebel
so a possible PESOS solution would "just" have to add a new file to the repository
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pfefferle
GWG but you can only access the remote source and not the $commentdata https://core.trac.wordpress.org/changeset/36661
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sknebel
and your page would automatically be rebuild and deployed?
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GWG
pfefferle: I'm thinking of the preprocess_comment hook.
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pfefferle
GWG ok, this is nice!
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GWG
pfefferle: If you put the changes I noted together, it has potential to simplify things.
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pfefferle
GWG ok, I will have a look
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pfefferle
GWG what about trackbacks?
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petermolnar
tantek blame Loqi :P it was a tweet content
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GWG
pfefferle: Trackbacks never had retrieval of the remote source. But with this, you could pull it at the preprocess_comment level as well.
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GWG
pfefferle: Basically, add in the $remote_source_original in.
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pfefferle
GWG what about wp_update_comment?
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GWG
pfefferle: I need to propose they add similar stuff there, I guess
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pfefferle
GWG whout be nice, to support also updates
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voxpelli
alpower: I had PESOS working for Instagram on my GitHub Pages driven site, using OwnYourGram and Micropub
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tantek
when your web host updates your PHP but not your WordPress: http://iii.bobulate.com/2006/05/the-gentrification-of-the-web/
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GWG
pfefferle: It will still work though because they added $comment_data to comment_post.
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sknebel
alpower: just found this in the wiki: http://indiewebcamp.com/gitpub (paging bret )
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aaronpk
tantek: lolololol
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aaronpk
appropriate use of gentrify?
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tantek
kinda scary that as a reader I'm seeing errors in someone else's automatic upgrade script
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voxpelli
tantek: so yes, we do have micropub to GitHub Pages somewhat, I just need to wrap it up, blog about it and make it more readily available
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tantek
aaronpk: no idea, that's the problem
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tantek
scroll-up
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aaronpk
lol yeah
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aaronpk
that's kind of true when people talk about gentrifying cities too though
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GWG
pfefferle: I may do a PR at some point after 4.5 comes out.
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voxpelli
sknebel: alpower: tantek: so basically what is demoed here is Micropub to GitHub Pages (with some iOS on top): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBPmSpD2jN4
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sknebel
wishes for threaded/branching IRC sometimes
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tantek
sknebel: it's a feature, it encourages people to work on things off-chat to allow one topic at a time instead of communication overload ;)
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aaronpk
people are pretty good at sorting out conversation threads :) no need to jam a technological solution on top
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petermolnar
sknebel nope, this is much better, I never like threads; @mention and quotes are way better
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tantek
"subject" is one of the worst features of email. it both causes communication overload, and people fork email threads without changing subject :)
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petermolnar
s/like/liked
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Loqi
petermolnar meant to say: sknebel nope, this is much better, I never liked threads; @mention and quotes are way better
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bear
yes, I find that not having the ability to do complex conversations forces them to be more precise and document complex things offline
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bear
if you need to point back to a specific conversation the loqi web log pointer is the best way
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tantek
sknebel successfully trolls the channel into meta-discussion ;)
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Loqi
who, me?
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petermolnar
tantek subject used to be very important to prevent downloading a lot of bytes which used to cost time and money in the wap and pre-wap days
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tantek
petermolnar: didn't work. people just didn't change the subject
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bear
subject was used that way in the early usenet days
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bear
before irc, email and other "internet" things became more common place
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petermolnar
I know, but that is a littlebit like blaming the hammer for falling on my finger :)
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voxpelli
sknebel: alpower: petermolnar: so basically https://github.com/voxpelli/node-github-publish + https://github.com/voxpelli/node-micropub-express + some glue inbetween = Micropub to GitHub Pages
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voxpelli
I just need to publish my glue so that it's easier for others to adopt + maybe launch it as a service. Perhaps I can get time to do that at IWC Nuremburg
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voxpelli
is stubborn and refuses to change subject ;)
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kylewm
I find that article's use of gentrification a little bit insensitive. In real life it means changes in the socioeconomics of a neighborhood displacing people who have lived there for a long time... not just a different brand of fancy cheese
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tantek
kylewm: yeah there's plenty of that mis-use going around
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sknebel
voxpelli: do you use jekyll as supported by github, or is it run externally?
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voxpelli
sknebel: I use GitHub:s built in
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tantek.com
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tantek
kylewm: feel free to review / update / add an Issues / Criticism section :) https://indiewebcamp.com/gentrification_of_the_web
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kylewm
tantek++
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Loqi
tantek has 279 karma
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tantek
kylewm: I have this problem with rabbitholes and needing to reverse breadcrumb my way back out of them
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bret
sknebel: I never got Gitpub beyond a prototype. It works but has lots of weird bugs
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bret
I wrote it when I didn't knownmuch about JavaScript
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tantek
maybe I should have posted that as a blog post?
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aaronpk
it's not too late!
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tantek
kinda don't want to start the week with a Twitter fight
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tantek
"gentrification" is the kind of word on Twitter that provokes knee-jerk tweetjactions
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aaronpk
that's not a word
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tantek
I can fix that
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aaronpk
did not mean to send tantek down another rabbit hole
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tantek
go ahead and ask google about "snarkinition"
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sknebel
voxpelli: want to add the video + the GH-links to /Jekyll in the wiki?
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aaronpk
weird news aggregator autogenerating content?
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alpower
voxpelli sknebel thanks! will look at those this evening
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voxpelli
sknebel: I have a writeup planned and the actual glue project mostly completed, so I was thinking to maybe wait until I can get that up
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kodfabrik.se
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petermolnar
tantek what kind of monster is that url?! that thing is 1.6MB in text, mostly in js
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tantek
huh, didn't run the JS
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petermolnar
inline js
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petermolnar
the / is one single html which is 1680.11KB
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tantek.com
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tantek
didn't run inline js either
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tantek
what, Amazon owns .book ?!?
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voxpelli
just noticed that the images from past IWC:s on the front page don't show any of the ones from 2015
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petermolnar
yep, that .book thing happened a while ago
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tantek
voxpelli: please help fix it! They should all be there on /IWC
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voxpelli
tantek: oh, I see, it's manually added
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aaronpk
everything on the wiki is manual :)
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tantek
voxpelli: nearly everything on the wiki is manual yes :)
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tantek
unless aaronpk scripts something like /2015-created
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aaronpk
even that is manual, I have to copy/paste the content in myself
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voxpelli
there's 8 missing IWC:s there, perhaps remake that section into something more manageable?
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tantek
voxpelli: funny thing about "more manageable" takes a lot of work to make something that takes less time managing than it would take to just do the manual work
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tantek
there's some flaw about automation like that that I think I first heard described by Douglas Adams
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voxpelli
tantek: I was thinking of changing the presentation/content rather than trying to automate it ;)
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tantek.com
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gRegorLove
tantek: FB lets you choose an existing photo after the events been created, or at least used to. I always added photos as a second step after creating the event and it allowed me to select from albums.
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tantek
huh ok
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tantek.com
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gRegorLove
I'll add a screenshot
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tantek
seriously up to *eight* different things people have meant by "Gentrification of the Web"
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gRegorLove
I guess it's not part of the "create" UI, but the "edit" UI at that point
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tantek
what is edit?
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Loqi
An edit (AKA diff, change) is a special type of reply that indicates a set of suggested changes to the post it is replying to. A collection of (presumably related) suggested edits in open source is often called a patch or pull request https://indiewebcamp.com/edit
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gRegorLove
You're referring to the "Event photo" banner at the top, correct?
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gregorlove.com
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gregorlove.com
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gRegorLove
My recollection is that menu is basically the same when an event has no photo, without the "Reposition photo" or "Remove photo" options. I don't have an event sans photo to confirm though.
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tantek
interesting, once you have created a post / comment, you cannot edit it in some ways, e.g. add a poll
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gRegorLove
Changing the photo does create a status-type post in the event, too. People can comment and like it.
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tantek
darn patterns
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tantek
gRegorLove: yes - changing the photo creates an /edit post!
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tantek
looks like polls are not editable!
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tantek
s/polls/FB polls
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: looks like FB polls are not editable!
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sknebel
!tell alpower just remembered I made a list of CI providers recently, I found 3 ones that had unlimited builds for private repos: wercker.com, circleci.com, drone.io
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bear
sknebel - yep, CircleCI (my $dayjob) allows for any number of builds - we just queue them up for the free plans
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snarfed
circleci++
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Loqi
circleci has 1 karma
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gRegorLove
What's CI?
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bear
what is CI
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "CI" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Ft
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tantek.com
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tantek
ok I think I'm done with that subject for now
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bear
CI is Continuous Integration - a style of release engineering that proposes that all changes to source code get immediately compiled and tested
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loqi.me
created /CI (+170) "prompted by bear https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-07/line/1457374192795 and dfn added by bear"
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tantek
bear++
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Loqi
bear has 108 karma
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bear
you push code to github, github generates a webhook that says "hey, I have a code change", the CI system gets that info and then the code and runs the build
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bear
CI SaaS are CircleCI, TravisCI, Jenkins, etc
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bear
you can even use CircleCI as a way to get GHPages like behaviour from your static repos
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tantek.com
edited /gentrification_of_the_web (-71) "desnarkify definition"
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@indiewebcamp
@mothersele @evucan curious, what do you mean by “gentrification of the web”? Documented 9 possible meanings: https://indiewebcamp.com/gentrification_of_the_web ^@t
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edited /MediaWiki:Sidebar (+15) "Brighton!"
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tantek
so comforting :)
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Loqi
[indieweb] "@jonworth try the #indieweb approach (which in many ways you already do) https://indiewebcamp.com/principles #selfhosting #ownyourdata #ownyourdomain but most of all use silo network to get" by Rick Mendes http://www.rmendes.net/2016/jonworth-try-the-indieweb-approach-which-in-many-ways-you
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Loqi
[mention] Rick Mendes commented '@jonworth try the #indieweb approach (which in many ways you already do) https:/...' on a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/principles (https://www.rmendes.net/2016/jonworth-try-the-indieweb-approach-which-in-many-ways-you)
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Loqi
[mention] Rick Mendes commented '@jonworth try the #indieweb approach (which in many ways you already do) https:/...' on a post that linked to https://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started_on_WordPress (https://www.rmendes.net/2016/jonworth-try-the-indieweb-approach-which-in-many-ways-you)
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tantek
alrighty then quadruplication!
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aaronpk
haha wow
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aaronpk
twitter, PuSH, 2 webmentions
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tantek
One week til IWC MIT!!!
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@RikMende
@jonworth the power of #indieweb is about focusing on your site without mandatory rejection of (ie: walled gardens… https://www.rmendes.net/2016/jonworth-the-power-of-indieweb-is-about-focusing-on-your
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Loqi
[indieweb] "@jonworth the power of #indieweb is about focusing on your site without mandatory rejection of (ie: walled gardens, corporate networks, Medium or anywhere else where" by Rick Mendes http://www.rmendes.net/2016/jonworth-the-power-of-indieweb-is-about-focusing-on-your
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@RikMende
@jonworth just to be clear: anything you syndicate to social networks using #indieweb will always lead back to your site (unlike FIA)
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tantek
That's a very good point ^^^. POSSE > FIA
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aaronpk
what is FIA?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "FIA" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10Fu
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tantek
what are instant articles?
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Loqi
Instant Articles is Facebook's odd combination of RSS and certain restricted kinds of HTML that they will show with their custom browser https://indiewebcamp.com/Instant_Articles
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loqi.me
created /FIA (+29) "prompted by aaronpk https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-07/line/1457380201340 and dfn added by tantek"
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@PenLlawen
Nook is shutting down, but lucky users may get to keep some of their purchased books! http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/03/04/barnes_and_noble_pulls_out_of_blighty/ [photo]
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@NOOK_Care
@steve_in_ms We’re sorry, but the ability to sideload NOOK purchased content has been discontinued. We apologize for any inconvenience
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gRegorLove
I was about to say at least it's ePub and Adobe DRM so you could load your books onto other devices, but apparently not according to that ^ (found on Wikipedia)
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gRegorLove
drm-- regardless
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Loqi
drm has -2 karma
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kylewm
Oh man are there any other competitors even close to Kindle?
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kylewm
I guess Apple
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snarfed
kindle DRM is at least straightforward to strip (for personal archiving) from books you've bought
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Loqi
[Ryan Barrett] Amazon Kindle
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sknebel
sony at least had nice readers (no clue if still active)
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sknebel
some even ran android
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tantek
!tell sandro,rhiaro,aaronpk,ben_thatmustbeme Looks like IWC MIT needs some wikifying love (e.g. /2016/MIT/Schedule is missing, other pages too) Can you help with https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/Planning#To_Do ? Thanks!
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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gRegorLove
That headline is kinda misleading. It's not Nook as a whole shutting down. But the future doesn't look good for Nook as a whole.
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gRegorLove
s/headline/tweet/
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Loqi
gRegorLove meant to say: That tweet is kinda misleading. It's not Nook as a whole shutting down. But the future doesn't look good for Nook as a whole.
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gRegorLove
snarfed: Didn't know Kindle could load epub. Do you need to convert to mobi first?
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snarfed
gRegorLove: afaik yes
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aaronpk
gRegorLove++
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Loqi
aaronpk: tantek left you a message 2 hours, 48 minutes ago: Looks like IWC MIT needs some wikifying love (e.g. /2016/MIT/Schedule is missing, other pages too) Can you help with https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/MIT/Planning#To_Do ? Thanks! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-07/line/1457383068824
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Loqi
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