#indiewebcamp 2016-03-11

2016-03-11 UTC
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tantek Have we already documented this re: /Tumblr ? boingboing.net/2016/02/26/a-copyright-troll.html
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rhiaro waves at anyone planning to attend IWC MIT next week
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rhiaro The schedule says lunch out on Monday and catered on Tuesday, but shoudl we cater both?
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rhiaro any opinions?
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rhiaro aaronpk
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rhiaro ben_thatmustbeme
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rhiaro Given probably 30 people, I'm not sure where 'out' would be
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aaronpk We can cater both
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aaronpk out works better in Portland where we can walk to 30 different food carts
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rhiaro okie dokie
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rhiaro I'm going for Chipotle day 1 and Wholefoods day 2
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rhiaro Any requests? https://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/service/catering-river-street
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rhiaro If somebody doesn't help me decide otherwise, it's all going to be vegan :p
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aaronpk IMO vegan is a good default since it is usually good food that vegans and vegetarians and omnivores can all eat
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aaronpk migt be a good idea to make sure there is something that is real food that is not made of gluten too
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rhiaro yeah
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KartikPrabhu CSM for "cards" http://cards.edenspiekermann.com/
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acegiak augh
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acegiak domain renewal time
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acegiak and I don't USE acegiak.com or acegiak.me
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acegiak but I don't want them to get squatted and abused in the future
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acegiak but it's $40 I just don't have
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miklb $40 US?
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acegiak $40 AUD
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acegiak which is less
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acegiak but I'm poor :P
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miklb understood. US .com renewal is ~$12
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miklb And .me usually less iirc
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Jeena So I have a Problem which is a fixed problem with Twitter but not possible with our websites. I would like to tell https://mlncn.withknown.com/ something, but I't like to initiate the discussion, not comment onsomething he wrote.
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message on 3/5 at 10:16am: is there a HWC Göteborg this week? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-03-09-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-05/line/1457201796974
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Jeena On Twitter I just write @mlncn in my tweet and he gets mentioned and I know how to do it.
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KartikPrabhu link to his homepage and send a homepage webmention
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Jeena I went to his website to find an email address or something but there is none. I could try to send a webmention to his homepage, but I can't really see if he will ever see it or if it just goes to Nirvana
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Jeena with comments I at least see that they end up on his website
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KartikPrabhu that is his choice, whether to process homepage mentions or not
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kylewm Jeena: yeah Known doesn't receive homepage mentions yet, but it will Real Soon Now
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kylewm (admittedly, it's pretty common that I try to respond to someone via webmention and find out the next day it didn't go through or something)
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Jeena Somehow our UI is bad in telling people what is possible and what not
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kylewm e.g. https://kylewm.com/2016/03/sure-thing-whats-your-email
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Loqi [Kyle Mahan] @RikMende Sure thing, what's your email?
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KartikPrabhu no it isn't. you send a webmention and if it is not a 202 then it is not possible
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kylewm HTTP 202 is not a UI KartikPrabhu :P
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Jeena I don't want to write a long post first and then send it and then find out that it didn't arrive
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Jeena because it's not supported by that particular website
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Jeena I wanted to ask him why here https://mlncn.withknown.com/2016/post-in-favor-of-lgbt-rights-family-friend-asks-something/annotations/f8fdbb48acf993d8d62da8e252f189c9 he didn't do a in-reply-to to https://mlncn.withknown.com/2016/post-in-favor-of-lgbt-rights-family-friend-asks-something so I would get a webmention and be aware of his comment.
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Loqi @Jeena, probably has something to do with that, yes :-) Just wish that understanding people's support of other people's rights as a matter...
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Loqi [benjamin melançon] Post in favor of LGBT rights, family friend asks 'something i should know?' But post in favor of Black rights, no one asks if i'm Black.
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Jeena But the only way for me to contact him seems to be twitter
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kylewm It would be pretty awesome if your authoring UI highlighted "@mlncn" and told you whether or not they could receive a webmention for that @-name
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Jeena Yes it actually would, but I guess there is no way to know it before I send the webmention?
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kylewm that's a good question
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kylewm does <link rel="webmention"> imply that the current page is webmention-able?
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Jeena because his website does have it on the homepage, but you just said that known doesn't support it yet
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kylewm i guess i mean, *should* the presence of that link imply that the page is a valid target
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kylewm even though it clearly doesn't right now, for known, and probably others
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Jeena btw. I assumed that for a long time but learned the hard way that most of the time this was not the case
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Jeena I would say yes it should.
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KevinMarks that was part fo what I was thinkign about with mention-tech
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KevinMarks so you cna ping it and it will stash the webmention, and send it on if it can
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Jeena But for that you would have needed to have written the whole thing before you can find out if it supports it or not, don't you?
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Jeena s/son't you/wouldn't you
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KevinMarks so if they decide to accept webmentions, they can look up the backlog
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Jeena ah you mean like a 3rd party service?
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Jeena that is a nice thing to have, but doesn't really solve the problem I have now ^^
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jeena.net edited /Webmention (+60) "/* Jeena with jeena.net */ info about homepage" (view diff)
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KevinMarks I suppose I could check the homepage for twitter handles and @ them your mention
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Jeena If you use Twitter
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Jeena and that is what I wrote, the only way for me to contact https://mlncn.withknown.com seems to be twitter
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Jeena https://indiewebcamp.com/indieweb-messaging#Webmention_Request doesn't really mention the UX at all
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KevinMarks Meteor.com just emailed me to tell me that they will no longer host my app
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KevinMarks trying to remember what app that was, as they didn't bother to lin to it
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Jeena hehe
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KartikPrabhu1 kylewm: the webmention sender can build a UI around the 202 status
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KartikPrabhu I am fine with sending a mention and then it not being accepted
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kylewm You're right
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KartikPrabhu another simple way to do that would be to not have the rel=webmention on pages that do not accept webmentions
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kylewm That's what we were discussing. Lots of people don't follow that convention.
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KartikPrabhu is that a convention documented somewhere?
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kylewm Not sure. It'd be a lot of extra work (for some implementations), which means many would not do it, which means you can't assume the presence of the link implies that target is valid
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KartikPrabhu yup
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KartikPrabhu and i don't feel it i necessary at all to find if targets are "valid" before sending webmentions
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KartikPrabhu I have sent webmention to Twitter URLs and everything has been fine ;)
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Jeena https://jeena.net/initiating-conversations-indieweb
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Loqi [Jeena] Initiating conversations
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emma2 what is a permalink?
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Loqi A permalink is a URL which typically represents and retrieves a single post (also explicitly called a post permalink) https://indiewebcamp.com/permalink
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sknebel would a way to send a "probe" webmention make sense?
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sknebel as in "if this had a useful source URL, would you accept it"?
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Jeena KartikPrabhu, it is obviously ok for you to not needing to know if the person you're writing a letter to will not be able to receive it, but I get really frustrated with it.
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kylewm sknebel, that's an interesting idea
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KartikPrabhu sknebel: what if I don't support probe webmentions ;)
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sknebel I knew that answer was coming ;)
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KartikPrabhu you see the point though
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sknebel of course
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kylewm You could send a probe comment and then immediately delete it :)
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Jeena but this is not a valid point, what if you don't support webmentions, or what if that person isn't on the internet_
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sknebel the argument of lots of extra work to add the header only sometimes (e.g. if you have your webserver add it to all requests) made me think that the webmention endpoint already has to know for what URLs it should accept WMs
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KartikPrabhu no Jeena my point is supporting proe webmention just to support wemention is unnecessary work
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KartikPrabhu anyway, back to work
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Jeena I don't get why you say it is unnecessary
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Jeena In my opinion somehting is necessary to make this a better UX
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Jeena I think your idea is really not bad sknebel
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Jeena so you would send a post to http://example.com/webmention?dest=http://example.com and it would answer with some special code or something
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jeena.net edited /Webmention (+146) "/* Articles */ Initiating conversations on the IndieWeb" (view diff)
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KartikPrabhu Jeena: what do you do if it doesn't answer with anything?
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Jeena Then you know that you don't have to bother to write this and should try to find a different way to contact the person
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KartikPrabhu well i guess I
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KartikPrabhu sorry wrong window
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KartikPrabhu so you are introducing an extra step in your own post writing UI. 1. you do a test 2. if test fails you stop writing whatever you wanted to else continue writing.
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KartikPrabhu in any case, none of this is as issue for me so feel free to ignore me
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Jeena Think a UI like on twitter, you start with @username and this name turns green if this indicates that it can receive a webmention or red if it doesn't
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gRegorLove Re: 'webmention probe' how about if a webmention fails the UI on your site suggests fallbacks, like showing a list of the rel-me links on the target URL?
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gRegorLove That way your publishing flow doesn't have to change (no pre-publish probe) and receivers don't have to implement probe support.
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@kevinmarks “the flexibility and other advantages of publishing on one’s own site.””Š—”Š@megnut https://medium.com/@megnut/the-future-of-blogger-from-2000-7c3cca4440ca#---315-384.dalpjvwlb #indieweb https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/708179169096544256/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/708179169096544256)
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KartikPrabhu oh the irony! that post is on Medium!
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tantek (seriously)
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KevinMarks Meg does get POSSE right in the article, if not in where she posted it
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tantek KevinMarks does it have a date or estimated date of when it was written?
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tantek We could add it to timeline as (C)oncept of POSSE described
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KevinMarks 2000
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KartikPrabhu a bunch of the comments are flawed
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tantek only a bunch? ;)
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KartikPrabhu somehow Facebook and Google are not :open" but Twitter and Medium are
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tantek KartikPrabhu: FB and G+ posts are not crawlable by default. Twitter and Medium posts are. Just one measure.
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KartikPrabhu wow! I can't copy the text of the comment because it is an image!!
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KartikPrabhu sorry a link
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KartikPrabhu "That’s a really interesting What If, indeed. It’s also an interesting lens with which to look at Twitter and now Medium, both on their own, and in contrast with Google and Facebook. The vision of empowering everyone to create and publish into an open system, and then networking the output together, has only become more compelling since 1999."
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KartikPrabhu ignores all of this stuff and goes back to work
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tantek KartikPrabhu: vision is cheap, execution is what counts
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mblaney just an idea that ties in to the probe webmention discussed earlier: instead of the probe, just store if you've ever sent a successful webmention to their home page.
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mblaney then that information can become part of a nickname cache
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tantek mblaney - that's a good idea - could you add that to /nickname_cache#Brainstorming ?
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mblaney then you can do whatever you like, UI-wise, to display that extra information
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KartikPrabhu regarding the Tohoku earthquake a year ago: https://twitter.com/craigmod/status/708186125592956928
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@craigmod Twitter was pretty much the only way to understand what was happening ... https://twitter.com/iA/status/46105976830566401 (twitter.com/_/status/708186125592956928)
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KartikPrabhu it is amazing that Twitter is the default widespread communication+news channel for so many
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kylewm mblaney++ good idea
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Loqi mblaney has 10 karma
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tantek interesting twitter embedded tweet bug - it shows "This Tweet is unavailable" if a private account references a previous tweet, e.g. https://twitter.com/t/status/708201793772064768
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KartikPrabhu weird
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tantek missing the point that if you can see that tweet, then you can see the embedded tweet too
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KartikPrabhu agreed
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KartikPrabhu self-reference should be an exception
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KartikPrabhu or actually since Twitter is a silo it could actually show embed depending on the viewers "follows"
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tantek right
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@fakebaldur RT @kevinmarks “the flexibility and other advantages of publishing on one’s own site.””Š—”Š@megnut https://medium.com/@megnut/the-future-of-blogger-from-2000-7c3cca4440ca#---315-384.dalpjvwlb #indieweb https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/708179169096544256/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/708242783543414784)
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GWG Good morning, campers
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[jgarber] Good morning!
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GWG Anything going on?
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petermolnar I was thinking to integrate a reply-by-mail (eg. comment & webmention ) to my blogroll2rss plugin
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petermolnar but I'm not that keen on it yet
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cweiske how would you detect to what object the mail is a reply to?
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@dissolve333 Thinking i will try to work out undieauth with QR code for mobile #indiewebcamp MIT (https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2016/3/11/1/) (twitter.com/_/status/708297977106792448)
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GWG petermolnar, I am using a WordPress service called Postmatic. It does comment by email to a WordPress blog.
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petermolnar I have Postie, can do the same, but I'd need do some serious magic with the post contents which I'm too tired for today
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@dissolve333 Either way, mobilepub needs some work #indiewebcamp (https://ben.thatmustbe.me/note/2016/3/11/2/) (twitter.com/_/status/708298255537283073)
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GWG petermolnar, I am trying to get my Workflow simplified.
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GWG Hard thing
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GWG I need someone to write an Android micropub app that I can share to
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@jkphl Happy to see my #wke2016 talk "IndieWeb — Deine Daten. Dein Netz" already published online (sorry, German only) https://www.video.uni-erlangen.de/webplayer/id/21766 (twitter.com/_/status/708302140574400512)
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voxpelli GWG: I wonder if aaronpk can make Quill as a progressive web app?
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[jgarber] Convo on Twitter this morning about sites blocking ad-blocking reminded me of tantek’s JS;DR… https://twitter.com/jgarber/status/708311165412069376
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@jgarber @tkadlec BAB;DR – Blocked Ad Blocking; Didn’t Read (twitter.com/_/status/708311165412069376)
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GWG voxpelli, I want to be able to share using the Android sharing intents. Couldn't see a way
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GWG I need a good way to strip Javascript and other garbage in PHP
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@btconf Join us for the #IndieWebCamp during #btconf. May 7 and 8. 28 seats taken so far. Don't miss out … https://beyondtellerrand.com/events/duesseldorf-2016/side-events#indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/708320659458416640)
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@marcthiele RT @btconf Join us for the #IndieWebCamp during #btconf. May 7 and 8. 28 seats taken so far. Don't miss out … https://beyondtellerrand.com/events/duesseldorf-2016/side-events#indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/708320697517477888)
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@jkphl RT @btconf Join us for the #IndieWebCamp during #btconf. May 7 and 8. 28 seats taken so far. Don't miss out … https://beyondtellerrand.com/events/duesseldorf-2016/side-events#indiewebcamp (twitter.com/_/status/708321466832580610)
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GWG Followup question, anyone have any thoughts on figuring out that the parsed microformat information is very corrupted?
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petermolnar define corrupted
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petermolnar by the way GWG this is what I'm doing for android now https://petermolnar.eu/press-this-indieweb/ credits for ideas to voxpelli and chrisaldrich
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Loqi [Peter Molnar] Extending Press This in WordPress to support indieweb reply, like and repost
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GWG http://pin13.net/mf2/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.rawstory.com%2F2016%2F03%2Fgun-loving-florida-mom-shot-by-4-year-old-son-hours-after-bragging-he-gets-jacked-up-to-shoot%2F
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petermolnar h-entry has neither summary nor content
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GWG petermolnar, I bookmarked that. I have done bookmarklets but I am still hoping for better integration
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petermolnar GWG see bottom "Adding Android"
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GWG petermolnar, I want to figure out what I want to happen if it looks like that
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GWG I missed URL Forwarder.
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petermolnar I didn't know about it until http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/sharing-from-the-indieweb-on-mobile-android-with-apps-and
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Loqi Sharing from the #IndieWeb on Mobile (Android) with Apps and @WithKnown
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petermolnar for the mf2 thing that is borked and maybe, maybe some magic regex could get something out of it, but I wouldn't hold my breath
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GWG I had tried the older app, but it didn't work well for me
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gRegorLove That parsed name isn't very useful.
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gRegorLove If an hentry returns a name and nothing else, I'd probably ignore it, personally
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petermolnar well, in the US there are no restrictions on first name, are there?
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gRegorLove I'm referring to mf2 'name'
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petermolnar gRegorLove I know :)
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petermolnar it's a LONG first name.
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gRegorLove hentry, not hcard :)
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GWG GRegorLove, that is the logic I was contemplating
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GWG I have a fallback using OpenGraph anyway. It is useful for sites without Mf to get name and summary
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ben_thatmustbeme its looking like this may be the biggest IWC in cambridge/MIT yet!
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petermolnar the OG fallback is smart
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GWG Maybe it is time to put back the endpoint code I created for Web Actions if this app works well.
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GWG petermolnar, the way I did it was that I merged the parsed OpenGraph with the parsed microformats and microformat properties got used first. Clearly I need to reject Microformats if improperly used.
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme, I wish I could come. I start a new job Monday. Can't ask for the first day off alas
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petermolnar I mean as a fallback, it's a good option: it's widespread and more easy to parse
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GWG petermolnar, if you look in the Post Kinds plugin, you can see the code I wrote that puts OpenGraph into an array of microformats properties.
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petermolnar thank you
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GWG I considered spinning that out.
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GWG petermolnar, you think it would be worth it to do so?
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GWG I know aaronpk wrote that library to generate comment presentation
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ben_thatmustbeme GWG, totally understandable
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ben_thatmustbeme I really need to figure out what to put in an email to attendees on eventbrite
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme, still jealous
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GWG You know I love coming up there and seeing the gang
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ben_thatmustbeme i think i decided on what i want to work on while there
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ben_thatmustbeme i want to get mobilepub up to date, and able to log in via a qr code
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ben_thatmustbeme well qr code / displayed text code
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ben_thatmustbeme make it possible for clients that don't have a browser to log in as well
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme, can you get it to work for me?
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ben_thatmustbeme lol, i'd love to
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ben_thatmustbeme your problem was log in?
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ben_thatmustbeme that whole system was pretty flaky
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GWG ben_thatmustbeme, yes.
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GWG I never got to test the app because of that
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ben_thatmustbeme oy, yeah, hopefully if I can work out a qr code system with aaronpk and he can get something up in indieauth, it will be much more accessible
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GWG How would that work?
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GWG What data would be encoded in the QR code?
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GWG Googling QR login got me SQRL
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[aaronpk] An auth code or access token probably
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GWG aaronpk didn't you remove auth codes for reasons of security?
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GWG When you were using OTP?
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[aaronpk] What? No, auth codes are the intermediate step of OAuth
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[aaronpk] I removed the OTP method of signing in since it's better off as a second factor, not the only factor
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GWG So how would a QR code work?
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GWG How would that authenticate you against your site?
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ben_thatmustbeme yeah, just auth code / access token something like that
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ben_thatmustbeme the way i see it i have a button on my site that says "login another device"
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GWG Oauth isn't something I've internalized
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ben_thatmustbeme that goes through the normal IA flow until it gets to redirecting back to client... instead it displays QR / text of code
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GWG So, you log into your site and have it display a QR code to your client
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ben_thatmustbeme on phone you enter your url, and scan the qr
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GWG Why enter your URL? You can encode it
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ben_thatmustbeme security
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ben_thatmustbeme if someone changes the QR, they can put in some other url
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ben_thatmustbeme safer to actually enter it
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GWG The app can display the decoded URL
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GWG Still think it is an unnecessary extra step
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ben_thatmustbeme hmm, true
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ben_thatmustbeme but that assumes the app does
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Jeena I'd like to mention my blogpost from last night about "Initiating conversations on the IndieWeb" https://jeena.net/initiating-conversations-indieweb and that in my opinion the UX which is possible for that right now is reassy bad.
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Loqi [Jeena] Initiating conversations
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aaronpk Did you see my whole write up of QR code based logins using GPG?
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ben_thatmustbeme if you give people the option they will just automatically log in as soon as the QR is read
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ben_thatmustbeme no
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aaronpk what is Kirby login
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Kirby login" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10G7
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aaronpk hmm
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aaronpk http://indiewebcamp.com/kirby-login-app
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aaronpk That's probably not quite what we're talking about here
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aaronpk theres also the OAuth Device flow we could use
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aaronpk you see that when you log in to cable providers on a device like the apple tv
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GWG Where they make you go to a computer and put in a code
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aaronpk Yeah
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[aaronpk] Anyway what's the actual goal here?
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GWG Simple mobile micropub setup
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GWG I think.
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[aaronpk] And avoiding typing passwords on a phone?
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ben_thatmustbeme the goal is avoiding browser
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ben_thatmustbeme unless the system supports a shared browser its really quite annoying to do indieauth on mobile
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ben_thatmustbeme unless you write a full app
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ben_thatmustbeme redirection to client is the difficulty for me
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[aaronpk] Ah so logging in within an app without bouncing out to a browser
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ben_thatmustbeme same thing for console based app
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GWG Not sure about ben_thatmustbeme but I want to not have to worry about it.
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[aaronpk] Yeah this is what the device OAuth flow is for
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[aaronpk] I could easily add it to indieauth.com I think
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ben_thatmustbeme device oauth flow?
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gRegorLove Jeena: Re https://jeena.net/initiating-conversations-indieweb did you see my idea https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-10#t1457677372089
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myfreeweb redirection to client, as in to the native app? why is that a problem? both ios and android let you register custom url schemes to bounce back to the app
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Loqi [Jeena] Initiating conversations
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gRegorLove Jeena: My opinion is that you still want to publish the item on your site. If webmention fails, then you go another route to notify them. Perhaps syndicate a link to them on Twitter.
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[aaronpk] It'd work like this: you enter your URL on the app, it would then show you a URL to open on your computer, you'd do the normal auth there, and then it would show you a 6-digit code you enter in the app
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Jeena hm
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ben_thatmustbeme ohhh, the "do these numbers match" type of system
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ben_thatmustbeme that would be even cooler
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[aaronpk] It's a well established pattern and is now actually part of the OAuth spec
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ben_thatmustbeme that would be great to have
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ben_thatmustbeme i'd love to do that in mobilepub
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[aaronpk] But I still think regular IndieAuth on a phone isn't that bad if you set up the redirect to open the app
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[aaronpk] Using the system browser
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myfreeweb typing a url into a computer could be worse than logging into twitter/github/etc on a phone
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myfreeweb you can use shorteners though i guess
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[aaronpk] I wouldn't want to have to have a computer in front of me to sign in to an app
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Jeena gRegorLove that is an half ok workaround although I don't think that thoso who don't implement homepage webmetions would have the rel twitter links
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ben_thatmustbeme [aaronpk]: that would be fine if that worked, but doesn't work so well unless you have a fully native app, the cordova stuff gets pretty spotty on that
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gRegorLove Really? I would think most sites with webmention support advertised would have rel-me links
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ben_thatmustbeme well its only on the first sign in
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[aaronpk] I'm pretty sure you can support that on a Cordova app
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ben_thatmustbeme actually, you can just generate a code thats readable text, open in a general browser and say log in, "does this code match the one on your device"
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ben_thatmustbeme its the registering protocol handlers or handing specific urls back to an app that is not supported well
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[aaronpk] Seriously?
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myfreeweb ben_thatmustbeme: https://www.sencha.com/blog/using-url-schemes-with-sencha-touch-ios-and-cordova/ looks like it's very easy now
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myfreeweb "Cordova will call a global function named handleOpenURL if it exists"
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[aaronpk] That sounds about right
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ben_thatmustbeme myfreeweb: that looks git if it works. I haven't worked with cordova for some time now, it used to not work at all though
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ben_thatmustbeme s/git/great/
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Loqi ben_thatmustbeme meant to say: myfreeweb: that looks great if it works. I haven't worked with cordova for some time now, it used to not work at all though
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ben_thatmustbeme but i know they had been putting a lot in to making those things work better, the private browser was the only solution back when i wrote mobilepub and it was so horrible
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myfreeweb ben_thatmustbeme: well you always could customize the platform-native code
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snarfed woo, bridgy warning for private posts is live, eg https://brid.gy/facebook/214611
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snarfed in other news, bridgy currently backfeeds both user mentions (eg twitter @-mentions) *and replies* to those mentions to your home page...
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snarfed ...i'm thinking about dropping the replies part, since by a strict translation, they're not user mentions themselves
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snarfed i only did it originally because some silos notify you of them, eg FB's "X commented on a post you were mentioned in"
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snarfed thoughts?
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snarfed i suspect KevinMarks would want to keep the replies backfeeding
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[kevinmarks] It's an ongoing tricky one
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[kevinmarks] As sometimes the replies are to a tweet I haven't posted on my site
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snarfed right, if OPD finds an original post, we prioritize that. so this is just for replies to other @-mentions
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[kevinmarks] If you look at kevinmarks.com
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[kevinmarks] At the bottom you see where someone has tagged me, and then replies to that. Eg thattechgirl and Zoë Keating
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[kevinmarks] But it doesn't pick up ones that are replies to me tweeting something, which makes sense
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snarfed right
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snarfed KevinMarks: so if you lost the replies to @-mentions, how much would you care?
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snarfed threads that mention you would be more fragmented on your home page
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snarfed ...but i'm already reluctant about the idea that bridgy should try to backfeed fully fleshed out threads anyway. definitely not an intentional use case right now
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[kevinmarks] It's tricky, because being @ mentioned on Twitter has multiple meanings
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kylewm +1 for dropping replies to mentions. i was against them from the beginning :)
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snarfed kylewm++ for foresight :P
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Loqi kylewm has 305 karma
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Loqi [indieweb] ""We are moving toward a syndicated web." A snapshot from a bygone age: https://medium.com/@megnut/the-future-of-blogger-from-2000-7c3cca4440ca #indieweb" by Ben Werdmüller http://werd.io/2016/we-are-moving-toward-a-syndicated-web-a-snapshot-from
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@benwerd "We are moving toward a syndicated web." A snapshot from a bygone age: https://medium.com/@megnut/the-future-of-blogger-from-2000-7c3cca4440ca #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/708374712548614144)
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@jkphl @jgarber Oh yes. #sigh Trying to have something demoable at our @indiewebcamp in April, but still a long way to go (and time flies). (twitter.com/_/status/708384555590352896)
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@RikMende RT @benwerd "We are moving toward a syndicated web." A snapshot from a bygone age: https://medium.com/@megnut/the-future-of-blogger-from-2000-7c3cca4440ca #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/708384876429443075)
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snarfed current status: "reacting" to github comments, feeling a little gross about it
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[aaronpk] Aww
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[aaronpk] It's better than a whole string of +1 comments!
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miklb heh, guess IRC doesn't support emoji
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bear irc does - I see most of them using Textual client
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miklb bear: I'll have to look at it, have been using Linkinus for so long, haven't even thought to look at options lately.
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bear textual is a great osx client - it even supports custom css/html for the view if you want to get fancy
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miklb sold
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ben_thatmustbeme myfreeweb: the bigger limitation at the time was that i was using adobe's phonegap build service
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ben_thatmustbeme which doesn't support anything too specific
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KevinMarks it's gillmor gang time
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@harryhalpin FYI, in this week and next from France, attending @indiewebcamp, LibrePlanet and W3C AC meeting. Office: G32-G514. https://twitter.com/w3c/status/708291408302645248 (twitter.com/_/status/708400796577173504)
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KevinMarks talking bots with borthwick https://t.co/MgouKEaqsm
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Loqi Just generated this week's newsletter! You still have a few minutes to make changes, and I'll re-generate it 10 minutes before it gets sent out at 2pm. http://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-03-11.html
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KevinMarks can someone add the pic from SF? I'm on a show
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KevinMarks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/notes-from-tonights-homebrew-website-club-indieweb-hwc2016-03-09html
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Loqi [Kevin Marks] Notes from tonight's Homebrew Website club # indieweb http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-03-09.html
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@indiewebcamp This week in the #indieweb https://indiewebcamp.com/this-week/2016-03-11.html https://twitter.com/indiewebcamp/status/708412190965964800/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/708412190965964800)
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Loqi [indieweb] ""We are moving toward a syndicated web." A snapshot from a bygone age: https://medium.com/@megnut/the-future-of-blogger-from-2000-7c3cca4440ca #indieweb" by Rick Mendes http://werd.io/2016/we-are-moving-toward-a-syndicated-web-a-snapshot-from
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kevinmarks.com edited /events/2016-03-09-homebrew-website-club (+255) "/* Photos */ add SF" (view diff)
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[shaners] Loqi :wave::skin-tone-2:
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Loqi [indieweb] ""We are moving toward a syndicated web." A snapshot from a bygone age: https://medium.com/@megnut/the-future-of-blogger-from-2000-7c3cca4440ca #indieweb" by Rick Mendes http://werd.io/2016/we-are-moving-toward-a-syndicated-web-a-snapshot-from
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