#indiewebcamp 2016-03-30

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tantek took a screenshot - will upload later (unless someone beats me to it)
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petermolnar_ what is SOLID?
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Loqi Solid is a decentralized file system and protocol designed to power decentralized social applications and linked data https://indiewebcamp.com/Solid
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petermolnar_ oh, another of those. ok.
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Loqi [indieweb] "Squashed a few bugs on my site today, and posted my travel plans for..."
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snarfed current status: reading and implementing http://carrot.is/coding/instagram-ids and http://instagram-engineering.tumblr.com/post/10853187575/sharding-ids-at-instagram
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snarfed :/
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kylewm To translate to and from the short id format?
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@misuba @indiewebcamp now I have time to clarify that I'm talking about this: https://wordpress.org/plugins/indieweb/ (twitter.com/_/status/715014084878405634)
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@misuba @indiewebcamp and "large" refers to how it installs five or so other things (and yet you don't have an indieweb site when you're done :-) ) (twitter.com/_/status/715014382963404800)
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snarfed kylewm: yeah. we need the shortcode to scrape a specific photo/video, but often we only have the id, eg in bridgy wm sources
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[kevinmarks] Alt text is good, but think how this would be easier if they used an img tag. https://blog.twitter.com/2016/alt-text-support-for-twitter-cards-and-the-rest-api
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oeg1 ?
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cweiske !
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oeg1 ?
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cweiske .
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oeg1 ?
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KartikPrabhu ok what's going on?
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@mylesbyrne 2/2 @indiewebcamp @t .. whereas #indiewebcamp victory = the mainstream no longer uses silos for basic web use (twitter.com/_/status/715115945589604352)
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@mylesbyrne 1/2 @indiewebcamp @t Tantek, how about: every time #indiewebcamp liberates meaning from silos and returns it to the open web, is a step .. (twitter.com/_/status/715116095213080576)
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@mylesbyrne @csarven @kevinmarks Also: given rising activity around Open Science pub. and pers. data, it's the perfect time for an indieweb refactor (twitter.com/_/status/715122029062656000)
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@LGWhiteAuthor RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 56 (twitter.com/_/status/715112952664367105)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 56 (twitter.com/_/status/715112838017245184)
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@jabwriter RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 41 (twitter.com/_/status/714630874067832832)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 41 (twitter.com/_/status/714630661458501632)
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@GillariBooks RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 80 (twitter.com/_/status/714147208816418819)
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@deathwizard57 RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 80 (twitter.com/_/status/714131562342785025)
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@aburke59 RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 28 (twitter.com/_/status/713641904492134400)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 28 (twitter.com/_/status/713641144253591552)
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@GillariBooks RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 42 (twitter.com/_/status/713156418464006145)
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@caroline_f_levy RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 42 (twitter.com/_/status/713143016240885761)
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@ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 42 (twitter.com/_/status/713142859294248960)
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@joshuajdesign RT @ReadersGazette BLOG Indie Author Answers by Jim Heskett http://www.indieauthoranswers.com Get help writing your book #bookbloggers 39 (twitter.com/_/status/712982832214380544)
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sknebel Loqi, you really need to learn to understand context one of these days :P
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@sl007 Hallo, @klischka - https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/D%C3%BCsseldorf (?) (twitter.com/_/status/715149095158038528)
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calumryan.com edited /Events (+125) "/* April */" (view diff)
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tantek good morning #indiewebcamp!
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GWG Good morning, Tantek
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tantek Good morning, GWG!
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GWG Been slow around here recently.
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tantek Hmm - do we have indie / POSSE events posted for April HWCs?
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GWG I am hoping that I can try NYC again someday for HWC
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tantek GWG - did you see my invitation to Science Hack Day NYC?
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tantek I'm trying to arrange to be there
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GWG I did. I believe I have a conflict.
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GWG Specifically, Passover.
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[jgarber] Good morning!
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GWG I have a project that I am having trouble picking back up.
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tantek good morning jgarber! any updates on HWC DC for April?
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GWG I am trying to figure out what rel me links might look like if not what I've done before
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[jgarber] tantek: I’m unavailable on 4/6, but oliverpattison is looking into organizing for that week.
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tantek jgarber - great - can you add that to the wiki page for 2016-04-06 HWC?
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[jgarber] tantek: Once we’ve got a location sorted, I’ll add to the wiki.
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tantek it's ok to put Location TBD :)
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tantek always incrementally update the wiki with the known knowns and known unknowns, helps people see / guess likelihood and plan accordingly
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snarfed adds the .app TLD to bridgy's blacklist
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snarfed google bought it, but hasn't announced plans for it yet
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snarfed and we regularly see references to mac programs (eg contacts.app) in tweets :P
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snarfed https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.app_%28gTLD%29
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aaronpk :sigh:
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aaronpk add .dev while you're at it. Google registered it and it's for private use only, as in only for google internal services
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[kevinmarks] Was it for appengine? They bought .blog too
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snarfed true! that was/is hilarious
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snarfed [kevinmarks]: wikipedia implies its for phone apps but doesn't cite why: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Internet_top-level_domains#cite_ref-rightside_70-1
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snarfed no matter
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snarfed aaronpk: amusing: https://www.instra.com/en/domain-names/newgtld/dev-domain-registration/dev
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snarfed (many others too)
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tantek pretty sure we documented this on the wiki somewhere?
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aaronpk huh "We have identified that there is more than one TLD application for this gTLD"
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aaronpk oh it was amazon http://icannwiki.com/.dev
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snarfed "we have identified" language is funny. "After a long and thorough investigation, our top detectives have discovered a hidden second application!"
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snarfed like, who could have possibly known?!?
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tantek Who could have known? Everyone can have Known, it's open source ;)
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tantek lol just saw a "You're out of invites" message on FB! WTF? has anyone ever seen that before?
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gRegorLove Does it prompt you to buy more? :)
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tantek yeah! with an ad!
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tantek seriously WTF I need to screenshot this
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tantek what is an invitation?
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Loqi An invitation is an optional feature of an event post (an event with invitations), or a reply to an event post that also notifies a list of invitees that they've been invited to the event, or a special case of that, an RSVP to an event that also invites additional people to it https://indiewebcamp.com/invitation
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tantek huh, no silo examples (yet)
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[shaners] Are there any Los Angeles area folks in the channel that would be interested in a HWC LA?
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tantek shaners, at least two others - did you check the HWC page?
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[shaners] what is HWC?
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Loqi Homebrew Website Club is a bi-weekly meetup of people passionate about or interested in creating, improving, building, designing their own website, in the same structure as the Homebrew Computer Club meetings https://indiewebcamp.com/hwc
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[shaners] thanks, loq
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gregorlove.com edited /News_Genius (+281) "/* Articles */ Genius responds to Congresswoman Katherine Clark’s letter on preventing abuse" (view diff)
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gRegorLove "However, we want to be clear that Genius does not enable abuse." Uh huh.
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gRegorLove They did at least add a public 'report abuse" tool, but I remain skeptical
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tantek does not enable abuse?!? either naïve or deliberately legalistically defensive
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tantek EVERY public silo enables abuse - that's one of the lessons we've learned
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tantek *empirically*
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tantek shaners - add yourself as wanting to help organize for Los Angeles here: https://indiewebcamp.com/Homebrew_Website_Club#Getting_Started_or_Restarting
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tantek there was one other LA person in the channel who I forgot was saying they wanted to start a HWC LA soon
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tantek since LA is so big - I could easily see several regional ones
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tantek shaners, perhaps indicate LA / (region/neighborhood) explicitly
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tantek.com edited /invitation (+425) "Silo Examples / Facebook" (view diff)
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[shaners] That’s definitely the hardest part about LA meetups. It’s 500 square miles, instead of SF’s 49. :confused:
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tantek it's ok, pick a spot that's convenient to you as an organizer so it's easier for you to do it consistently
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[shaners] yep
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KevinMarks well, the bay area is about as big - I travel ~ 50 miles for HWC
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tantek KevinMarks++ it's true, major props for making the effort so consistently.
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Loqi KevinMarks has 205 karma
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veganstraightedge.com edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+87) "/* Getting Started or Restarting */" (view diff)
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tantek shaners++ thanks!
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Loqi shaners has 25 karma
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[shaners] I’ve been working out of the Pivotal LA office for the past few weeks. And there’s space to do meetups here and I have initial approval to do something like that. So...
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[shaners] Also, considering doing a IWC LA here. Since an office is more hospital than a barn for this kind of event.
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[shaners] I guess I should also get back into the logo redesign to finish up the logotype with enough time to order stickers etc for Summit in PDX.
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[shaners] Woof. Wiki treats /2016 and /2016/ as different things.
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[shaners] mumble mumble lexical vs logical.
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veganstraightedge.com created /Summit (+18) "redirect /Summit to /2016" (view diff)
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gRegorLove That's intentional as I recall, though I'm not a big fan of it either.
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[shaners] As a human, I treat trailing slashes in URLs as inconsequential even though I know that sometimes softwares sometimes treats them as significant.
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tantek I used to. Then once I thought about it too much I can't help but now see them as potentially significant, the way a file vs a folder is significant
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singpolyma trailing slash is only inconsquential on root domain
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singpolyma (since domain + no path is pretty clearly talking about the whole collection)
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[shaners] singpolyma: I know that (and said as much). I just think that distinction is not very human user friendly.
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snarfed [shaners]++
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[shaners] singpolyma: Can you add yourself to https://indiewebcamp.com/IRC_People please?
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singpolyma [shaners]: well, I'm not sure most human users are URL users, unfortunately.
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singpolyma [shaners]: I thought I did add myself there...
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[shaners] I might be missing something, but I don’t see you in the list.
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singpolyma I don't see me there either. weird
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singpolyma.net edited /IRC_People (+83) "/* Nicknames */ add myself" (view diff)
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[shaners] Don’t be afraid to flesh out http://indiewebcamp.com/User:Singpolyma.net too. :wink:
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singpolyma [shaners]: it has 100% of the information it needs to have ;)
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tantek singpolyma what are you working on next on your site?
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tantek that's a good thing to add to your user page, e.g. see https://indiewebcamp.com/wikifying#Wikify_yourself
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singpolyma tantek: Hmm. I've been more focused on compatability elsewhere (like trying to push + polish my GNU Social plugin). my own site works pretty well
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tantek how's your site's /IndieMark?
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[shaners] maybe you can document on your wiki page what your site does (and intentionally doesn’t do)?
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tantek what CMS it uses etc.
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tantek what types of posts you post
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singpolyma hmm, ok
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singpolyma oh man, why does http://indiewebcamp.com/* not redirect to https:// ? login then clicking the link above made me think I was logged out :P
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tantek I think that needs to be an FAQ
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tantek aaronpk: ^^^ ?
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singpolyma.net edited /User:Singpolyma.net (+521) (view diff)
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tantek FB has an interesting "location tagging" flow
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singpolyma.net edited /User:Singpolyma.net (+610) (view diff)
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tantek though I'm not sure it is "tagging" per se (in the folksonomy sense)
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singpolyma.net edited /User:Singpolyma.net (-54) (view diff)
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tantek but rather an informalism instead of "suggest location property"
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tantek it shows up in notifications though
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tantek E.g.
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tantek "so and so accepted your location suggestion on her photo."
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tantek (white location pin on pink bg square mini-icon) n minutes ago
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tantek (need to find a non-personal / public-ok example to screenshot and upload)
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tantek on *some* FB photos without an explicit location, they have a UI for location info
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tantek if it's your own photo: [ Add Location ]
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tantek if it's another's photo: [ Suggest Location ]
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KevinMarks hm http://fiskkit.com/articles/Ru3CFE8nkC/fisk/edit
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tantek KevinMarks: js;dr LOL: "{{::UserService.getCurrentUser().name}}"
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tantek what is suggest location?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "suggest location" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10H3
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tantek suggest location is a web action for posting a location response to a post indicating location information for the post, like where a photo was taken.
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loqi.me created /suggest_location (+177) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-30/line/1459367959105 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek what is a location response
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "location response" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10H4
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tantek location response is /location-of
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loqi.me created /location_response (+24) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-30/line/1459368099725 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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tantek what is location-of
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "location-of" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10H5
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tantek location-of is a response to post that indicates location information for the post. see also [[suggest location]]
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loqi.me created /location-of (+140) "prompted by tantek https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-30/line/1459368120282 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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aaronpk what FAQ?
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aaronpk I can't redirect http -> https until I solve the hotlinked image problem
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tantek.com edited /suggest_location (+218) "silo examples, fb, see also" (view diff)
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tantek aaronpk: I thought I logged in, why am I not logged in?
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tantek A: It's possible you logged in via https and then are viewing a page over http, or vice-versa.
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tantek (I think that's right)
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aaronpk the cookie is https-only. the other thing i could do is change that to allow it to send the cookie over http
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tantek oh - so you MUST login in only over https?
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aaronpk you can't log in via http so yes?
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singpolyma aaronpk: why not redirect to https always?
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tantek got it - this is why I asked
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tantek my A: above is wrong about the vice-versa :)
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aaronpk singpolyma: because there are a lot of hotlinked images from http domains and they would all break
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tantek another good FAQ!
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singpolyma aaronpk: why would they break? redirects should work in <img src="..."> etc
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aaronpk because the browser will refuse to embed an http URL for an img tag from an https domain
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tantek singpolyma: mixed-content blocking in browsers
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aaronpk mixed-content warnings got serious the last couple years
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singpolyma aaronpk: wait, so the problem is that images hotlinked from wiki pages won't load?
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aaronpk right
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singpolyma so, I have to log in using https, but I have to read over http in order to not see broken pages?
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aaronpk https://indiewebcamp.com/irc-people is a great example
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aaronpk you asked why it is this way so I am telling you
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aaronpk however this is obviously not ideal
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aaronpk the problem is I can't find a good way in mediawiki to rewrite those image URLs to an https proxy URL
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aaronpk I got part of the way there, but it doesn't work for some of the ways we hotlink images
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tantek.com edited /location-of (+886) "why, how, examples, see also" (view diff)
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singpolyma Yeah, ok. I guess Chromisms break the web now the way IEisms used to :)
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tantek not really. these are deliberate changes to improve secure browsing
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tantek latest Edge, Chrome, Firefox, Safari all do this (block mixed content)
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singpolyma I guess I'm glad I'm still on a non-broken version of Firefox, then :)
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aaronpk s/non-broken/insecure/ :P
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singpolyma aaronpk: citation needed :P
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KartikPrabhu the way pages look is not the only criteria for "broken"
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aaronpk https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Security/Mixed_content
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singpolyma KartikPrabhu: the purpose of a web browser is to show me web pages. If it breaks the pages it is meant to show me, this is bad behaviour
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KartikPrabhu if it show me unsecure content then it is definitely more broken ;)
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tantek singpolyma: no there is another option, UIR
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singpolyma KartikPrabhu: well, in this case it is forcing people to turn off HTTPS completely
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singpolyma which is even more insecure than just the images maybe being shown by a middleman
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singpolyma which is hardly a useful attack vector in most (any?) cases
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tantek what no what is?
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tantek I think gRegorLove is pre-occupied ;)
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gRegorLove Hm?
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singpolyma tantek: blocking mixed-mode images is forcing real websites (example: indiewebcamp.com) to prefer serving the entire website unsecured
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singpolyma thus making the web less secure
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tantek singpolyma: no
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tantek it's not binary like that
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tantek see /HTTPS for various levels
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gRegorLove Did I miss an @?
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tantek gRegorLove: no just an acronym
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gRegorLove Haha
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tantek (and apparently everybody missed it because it answers singpolyma and KartikPrabhu's questions / concerns)
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tantek :P
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gRegorLove What is UIR?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "UIR" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10H6
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gRegorLove Use It Right?
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tantek UIR is Upgrade Insecure Requests https://www.w3.org/TR/upgrade-insecure-requests/
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loqi.me created /UIR (+108) "prompted by gRegorLove https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-30/line/1459369572486 and dfn added by tantek" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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Loqi [Mike West] Upgrade Insecure Requests
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gRegorLove Ah
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singpolyma tantek: didn't miss it. but theoretical future tech is seperate from real current problem (ie: indiewebcamp.com is forced to prefer non-secure requests in a semi-confusing way)
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tantek singpolyma: not theoretical, already deployed in latest FF and Chrome production
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tantek huh, not in caniuse yet
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tantek issue created (in case you want caniuse.com/UIR) https://github.com/Fyrd/caniuse/issues/2392
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tantek !tell kylewm, KevinMarks, benwerd I won't be here 2016-06-15 and 29 - could you pick an SF location for those two HWCs? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club and https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-29-homebrew-website-club ?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk has anyone here turned a single longer reply post on their site into a bunch of tweets?
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aaronpk like how people are doing the 1/5 2/5 .. thing on twitter when typing long posts
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KartikPrabhu haven't done that with replies
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tantek I think that's a twitter contortion that once you start posting all your text on your own site you can't be bothered to packetize for Twitter
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tantek aaronpk: you thinking of a packetized POSSE?
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aaronpk i was about to reply to a tweet and realized i would need more than 120 characters for the reply
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tantek heh
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aaronpk then wasn't sure if i should make a bunch of replies from my site and syndicate each one
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aaronpk or if i could turn a single post on my site into a bunch of tweets
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tantek nah, ellipse and make them read the rest on your site
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tantek have done that plenty of times
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aaronpk yeah i've definitely done that too
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KevinMarks well, noterlive sort of does that
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Loqi KevinMarks: tantek left you a message 13 minutes ago: I won't be here 2016-06-15 and 29 - could you pick an SF location for those two HWCs? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-15-homebrew-website-club and https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-06-29-homebrew-website-club ? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-30/line/1459371985246
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tantek helps prove an indieweb point
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snarfed tantek++
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tantek KevinMarks: noterlive is the opposite
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Loqi tantek has 282 karma
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@bjschaefer @gabebw This seems like just your kind of thing: http://indiewebcamp.com (twitter.com/_/status/715287537963507712)
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KevinMarks if you do it, you need to make each subsequent tweet a reply to the previous one
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KevinMarks so twitter threads them
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tantek oh *that* I've done as a slide deck ;)
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KevinMarks there is a tweet collection API, but it's not exposed in normal ui
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KevinMarks https://dev.twitter.com/rest/collections
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KevinMarks http://mention-tech.appspot.com/listmentions?target=http%3A%2F%2Fnielsenhayden.com
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tantek KevinMarks: by opposite I mean noterlive generates the tweet sized packets first which then it stitches into the longer archive (which you presumably copy/paste the HTML of to publish)
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tantek just reserved MozSF space for the remaining HWC SF meetups except for 06-15, 06-29, and 09-21 (where he won't be able to make it to HWC SF).
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tantek s/remaining HWC/remaining 2016 HWC
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Loqi tantek meant to say: just reserved MozSF space for the remaining 2016 HWC SF meetups except for 06-15, 06-29, and 09-21 (where he won't be able to make it to HWC SF).
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tantek got tired of not getting the big room the few times he "only" reserved space a week in advance (e.g. next week)
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-04-06-homebrew-website-club (+8) "rsvp sf" (view diff)
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tantek.com created /events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club (+4362) "draft with what's expected to be regular" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club (-42) "adjust as template, LA not regular yet, notes don't need default separation by location" (view diff)
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club (+74) "/* RSVP */ DC" (view diff)
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tantek ALL (especially adactio, Jeena, aaronpk, kylewm, KevinMarks, benwerd, jgarber, gRegorLove ) please review this particular HWC as template-worthy for remaining HWC events for 2016 https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club
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tantek gRegorLove: when you think https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club is good enough, please go ahead and replicate to at least May + June
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tantek Thanks!
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aaronpk tantek: what do you think about trying to do joint sf/pdx again?
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aaronpk at least with talky and that Jabra mic since that worked well during the w3c meetings
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tantek we could try again - I think it's difficult when both parties are "away" from the laptop/screen
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tantek (10' instead of 2')
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aaronpk having the wireless mic that can be set on something near everyone works well
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tantek also not great if either location is at a cafe or otherwise outdoorsy spot
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aaronpk yeah, I would move PDX back to an office space
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tantek (which I don't want to discourage, since sometimes that kind of change of venue is nice)
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tantek (sparks different creativity, discussions, etc.)
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tantek (seriously can't believe I just booked office space in a corp calendar through end of the year)
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gRegorLove tantek: Looks good to me. Doesn't look that different from other HWC pages at a glance.
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tantek gRegorLove: major differences are default cities being shown, plus LA is there (optimistically) but commented out
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tantek.com edited /events/2016-04-06-homebrew-website-club (-49) "/* Notes */ drop specific cities like blogs and photos" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Idea: I could set up a template "HWC-skeleton" and then adding a new HWC page would just require wiki text: {{subst:HWC-skeleton}}
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tantek that might be more work though - every month or so we end up altering a lot of defaults
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tantek hence why I only suggested replicating out May and June
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gRegorLove subst: substitutes the template rather than parsing it every page load
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aaronpk and i'd hate to have the old pages be completely reformatted when we add new stuff
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tantek that too
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aaronpk ah right subst
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gRegorLove No reformatting of old pages
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tantek feels like that doubles the places to edit
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tantek right, with subst
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gRegorLove But yeah, I guess they do change month-to-month
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tantek !tell kylewm could you post an indie event and FB POSSE copy for https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-04-06-homebrew-website-club HWC SF? Thanks!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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KevinMarks site deaths update? http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/30/quora-parlio/
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tantek certainly: "Users won’t be able to post on Parlio any more starting today", "Members can download their content for the next 30 days." (yikes)
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tantek what is Quora?
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Loqi Quora is a question and answer silo https://indiewebcamp.com/Quora
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tantek what is Parlio?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Parlio" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10H7
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tantek KevinMarks: ^^^ go for it
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tantek.com edited /location-of (+363) "/* Facebook */ no indication location came from location-of response, in contrast to person-tag shows tag-of source/author" (view diff)
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tantek new Twitter iOS client (v6.50 2016-03-28) claims "users can create alt txt for images" - is that in the API? worth considering as a Bridgy Publish option?
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snarfed tantek: yes, in api, KevinMarks linked here earlier
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snarfed feel free to file an issue if you want, i don't entirely understand what it is yet :P
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tantek does anyone put decent alt text on their u-photo img tags?
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KevinMarks https://blog.twitter.com/2016/alt-text-support-for-twitter-cards-and-the-rest-api
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KevinMarks thought they want a meta tag with the alt text in
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tantek snarfed, first question is if anyone who publishes indie photos is bothering to specify decent alt txt
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tantek and then if need a way of extracting it from posts
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KevinMarks well, useful for POSSEing to twitter as a screenshot ;)
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tantek uh, what's the length limit on alt txt?
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KevinMarks " Medium is using it to ensure images of pull quotes from articles have alt text when publishing to Twitter. "
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tantek (on images in Twitter)
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tantek and do they t.co URLs in alt txt
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KevinMarks wait, I can't add alt text on the web?
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KevinMarks o_O
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tantek their web UI typically lags their "native" mobile apps these days
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KevinMarks is this the 10,000 character thing?
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gRegorLove What is alt?
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Loqi alt is a required attribute of the <img> element and should be provided in any use of images on indieweb pages from photo posts to featured and other images in articles https://indiewebcamp.com/alt
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gRegorLove What is alt text?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "alt text" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10H8
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gRegorLove alt text is /alt
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loqi.me created /alt_text (+16) "prompted by gRegorLove https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-03-30/line/1459381074197 and dfn added by gRegorLove" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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KevinMarks how do I see the alt text in the app?
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KevinMarks I can see it in the browser https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/715323073692454913
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