#indiewebcamp 2016-04-14

2016-04-14 UTC
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[shaners] aaronpk: are you already gone for the night?
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[shaners] Does anyone know of a site that sends an X-Pingback HTTP header that I could use for testing?
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GWG shaners, most WordPress sites?
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[shaners] what’s your URL, GWG?
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GWG https://david.shanske.com
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GWG But it would send it for pingbacks, not webmentions.
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[shaners] i’m not messing with webmentions, just parsing LINK HTTP headers
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[shaners] GWG: You don’t have a X-Pingback HTTP header
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[shaners] https://gist.github.com/veganstraightedge/492bc4e58cfe2e1c171975b1b8b529b4
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GWG Maybe I turned it off.
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GWG One second
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GWG X-Pingback-Forwarded-For?
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[shaners] Nope. Did you look at the gist? Those are all of your headers according to curl.
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[shaners] But it’s not a big deal. Don’t put any time into this.
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GWG You wanted X-Pingback? I'm sorry, I mixed up.
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[shaners] s'ok
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GWG I assume IWC this weekend will be primarily in German?
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[shaners] I know there aren’t a lot of Ruby folks in IndieWeb Land, but I just released a rubygem port of Tantek/Aaron’s link-rel-parser-php library.
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[shaners] https://github.com/indieweb/link_rel_parser-ruby
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[shaners] Usage is very simple:
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[shaners] require "link_rel_parser"
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[shaners] LinkRelParser.parse("https://aaronparecki.com")
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[shaners] Gives you a hash like:
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[shaners] {
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[shaners] "authorization_endpoint" => "https://aaronparecki.com/auth",
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[shaners] "hub" => "https://switchboard.p3k.io/",
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[shaners] "micropub" => "https://aaronparecki.com/micropub",
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[shaners] "self" => "https://aaronparecki.com/",
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[shaners] "token_endpoint" => "https://aaronparecki.com/auth/token",
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[shaners] }
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[kevinmarks] When I click going on Kyle's events in woodwind it says "failure"
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kylewm Kevinmarks, hosted known needs a release/upgrade
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aaronpk good morning!
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prtksxna hey aaronpk o/
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aaronpk i am somewhat disappointed to see that nobody posted any reacji here last night https://webmention.rocks/test/1
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Loqi [Webmention Rocks!] Test #1
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voxpelli GWG: the IWC this weekend will be primarily in English as usual I believe, else quite a few of us there would have an interesting challenge :)
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aaronpk GWG: yes last time we did this in Germany all the sessions were in English. I can get by ordering food at restaurants in German, but my vocabulary is not good enough to explain indieweb things in German yet ;-)
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[kevinmarks] I do want German compound nouns for emoji-reaction-to-note and RSVP-using-webmention-to-say-yes
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aaronpk haha I will see what I can do
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cweiske there will be no compound noun for RSVP-using-webmention-to-say-yes. It'd be "Einladungszustimmung per Webmention"
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sknebel Webmentionterminbestätigung if you absolutely had to put it in one word? ;)
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cweiske but that opens up double meanings, as if you confirm the "webmention" event
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cweiske Webmentionclientprogrammiererhosenherstellerwerkstorwärtermützenabzeichenfarbe
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aaronpk oh fun. wonder why kyle's comment suddenly shows up with "Â"
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cweiske utf8 problem
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aaronpk right, but where and why?
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aaronpk also i swear it didn't show up like that yesterday
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aaronpk ooh. it expired from redis so it's reading the comment from disk now
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aaronpk and on disk I see "\u00a0- HTML\u00a0<a>"
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aaronpk (it's a json encoded string on disk)
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aaronpk ah it's the new HTML sanitization I added that's messing with it
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aaronpk something about http://php.net/manual/en/domdocument.savexml.php is not understanding utf8
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aaronpk fixed!
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rMdes nuremberg: I wont be able to come. the trial I'm attending changed the audiences dates. I wont be able to make it this time...
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GWG Good morning all
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sknebel Good morning/afternoon GWG!
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aaronpk rMdes: oh no! sorry to hear!
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aaronparecki.com edited /2016/Nuremberg (+190) "/* RSVP */ add URLs" (view diff)
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distresssignal.org edited /events/2016-04-20-homebrew-website-club (+16) "/* Washington DC */" (view diff)
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aaronparecki.com edited /2016/Nuremberg (-109) "/* Organizers */ list organizers" (view diff)
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GWG I'm thinking that I may remote attend to if I can drag myself out of bed that early
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aaronpk yeah!
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aaronpk the demos on sunday will be at a normal morning time for you anyway
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GWG My current project refactoring the Webmentions and Semantic Linkbacks plugins isn't very demo impressive
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GWG But if I get the new structure right, I put in the hooks to add a lot.
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GWG I'm curious to see what others are up to. It always inspires me.
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snarfed aaronpk, very minor q: my first webmention rocks reply initially showed up with the content, "mic check, one two one two. is this thing on?", which seemed right, but then later switched to showing the name, 'Webmention Rocks!
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snarfed https://snarfed.org/2016-04-11_webmention-rocks
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Loqi [Ryan Barrett] Webmention Rocks!
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snarfed kinda curious, but very low priority, feel free to ignore
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aaronpk snarfed: I made it show the name only if there is a unique name for the post
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snarfed instead of content?
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aaronpk i see that your post doesn't *show* a name, but there's an invisible p-name property
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aaronpk yeah, if there's a unique name for the post, it's considered an "article" type and I don't show the content since it is potentially very long
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aaronpk i'm curious why you have an invisible p-name tag in that post
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snarfed aaronpk: good point! looks like a wordpress/press this artifact. added to my todo list. (low priority :P)
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aaronpk interesting!
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aaronpk you typed the name I assume though?
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aaronpk is that just the wordpress post title field?
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tantek.com edited /2016 (+2018) "/* Schedule */ update with day 0-2 details, day 0 leaders summit" (view diff)
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aaronpk 😡 at javascript popups
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aaronpk snarfed++ for the reacji!
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Loqi snarfed has 213 karma
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tantek 👀
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aaronpk has anybody noticed yet that the pages update in realtime? :D
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bear I was noticing why the dev toos panel showed so much activity
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bear s/toos/tools/
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Loqi bear meant to say: I was noticing why the dev tools panel showed so much activity
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aaronpk hehe
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aaronpk shouldn't be *that* much more. it's using eventsource, so no polling anyway.
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bear not a lot - just the network display where it shows the graph of time taken
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aaronpk ah
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bear I think test 11 has the wrong link header
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bear link:</test/11/webmention?error>; rel="webmention"
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aaronpk oh crap you're right. should be the other way around
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aaronpk they are defined backwards in my test data
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bear )
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bear :)
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aaronpk fixed
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aaronpk bear++
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aaronpk I also reordered those so I don't do that again
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bear testing++
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tantek.com edited /2016 (+48) "/* Schedule */ Friday through Sunday" (view diff)
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aaronpk i was thinking about changing the date the tests show to the date the test was added
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aaronpk does that seem reasonable?
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aaronpk right now it's always 3 hours ago
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bear yes, date order seems saner
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bear cool, 14 for 14
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aaronpk dammit! i failed #13!
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aaronpk bear++
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aaronpk sounds like i need to upgrade mention-client-php to stop regexing HTML
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bear oh my - yes
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bear regex and HTML in the same sentance makes me all itchy
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aaronpk yup
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bear the biggest reason ronkyuu is passing these tests so fast is from it's use of BeautifulSoup4 - the library Python devs can use to parse HTML
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aaronpk I didn't want to rely on DomDocument existing in PHP since it's an extension
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bear it already handled the edge cases you have been tossing in
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aaronpk does the python mf2 parser use beautifulsoup4?
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bear I think it does
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bear yes, it does
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aaronpk this one right? https://kylewm.com/services/mf2
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bear yep
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bear within BS4 (as it's often shortened too) -- you can pick what xml tool it uses to walk the document
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aaronpk oh yeah i remember some of that
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bear that is where the "parser" dropdown comes from in that
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aaronpk apparently there are no tests in the PHP parser that test the rel values returned
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GWG Afternoon
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GWG How do you say POSSE in German?
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[kevinmarks] you want to use html5lib, and defintely not the built-in parser in python 2.x
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aaronpk PHP parser people: https://github.com/indieweb/php-mf2/pull/92
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sknebel bear: I'm reading the commit log right that 2 of ronkyuu's tests failing is expected?
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aaronpk the good news is the node and python libraries already pass that test :)
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[kevinmarks] oh, you didn't get gregorlove's PR in your version?
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gRegorLove aaronpk: I tried a reacji, but my db doesn't support full Unicode yet apparently
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Jeena Tomorrow I'm flying to Nuernberg, my second IndieWebCamp soon!
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message on 4/3 at 4:56pm: is Göteborg HWC on this week? https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-04-06-homebrew-website-club#Where http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-03/line/1459727774085
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Loqi Jeena: tantek left you a message 1 week, 1 day ago: did you take a photo at Homebrew Website Club 2016-03-23? Can you add it to: https://indiewebcamp.com/events/2016-03-23-homebrew-website-club#Photos ? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-06/line/1459965493893
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Loqi Jeena: [shaners] left you a message on 4/8 at 6:55pm: I fixed the logo knockout. re: "the c carving is somehow a bit short, in comperrison with the other two" http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-04-08/line/1460166946667
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bear sknebel - yes, I have 2 tests that have been evading fixes
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gRegorLove aaronpk: I'm going to try to get the test-suite updated for php-mf2 today, if you want to wait to bundle that in with the other two PR
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Jeena damn, my site still doesn't work with aaronpk's https://jeena.net/notes/627
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Loqi [Jeena] Note #627
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aaronpk gRegorLove: sure, my fix is small and shouldn't affect the other work
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aaronpk Jeena: weird I thought we fixed that? I'm using webmention.io to receive mentions now
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Jeena hm then let me check my logs if it really got send
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sknebel bear: ok, then making it run on python3 is as easy as activating 2to3. you got a PR for the (trivial) change to activate it
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bear sknebel++
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Jeena oh hm my code didn't find your webmentions endpoint ...
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[kevinmarks] try it on the webmention.rocks test pages?
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Jeena hm no, untill now it always worked
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j4y_funabashi hey indieweb peeps
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Jeena oh my god what a dumb logical error
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Jeena I check with this if there is a webmention link in the http header: if response["link"]
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Jeena so if someone has a Link but not a webmention Link I don't check in the html
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Jeena d'oh
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Jeena wohoo! it worked https://aaronparecki.com/2016/04/16/1/indiewebcamp
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Loqi IndieWebCamp Nürnberg 2016
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Jeena oh wow https://webmention.rocks/ really rocks, and my implementation fails half of the tests
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bear Jeena++
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bear yea, it's finding all kinds of edge cases in my code
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bear sknebel - your PR prompted me to just add Python v3 support fully
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gRegorLove Submitted this PR to add composer.json to microformats/test repo: https://github.com/microformats/tests/pull/47 Once that's in, we'll be able to include those in the updated php-mf2 test suite.
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gRegorLove So depending how long that takes, don't need to wait on the test-suite to push out the php-mf2 updates
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aaronpk Jeena++ good idea for a new test case!
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[kevinmarks] I think we all had that experience to some extent Jeena - having all those edge cases in one place is really handy
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aaronpk I only have tiny internet right now so can't comment on my PR, so can someone add this as a comment? Don't merge my php-mf2 PR yet because I just realized it's wrong and I'm going to add another test case to webmention.rocks tomorrow, and I have a plan to fix the PR
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[kevinmarks] done
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[kevinmarks] interesting theory that FB can legislate UX cross-platform: http://www.networkworld.com/article/3056565/mobile-apps/facebooks-react-native-could-succeed-where-other-cross-platform-frameworks-have-failed.html#tk.twt_nww
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