#indiewebcamp 2016-06-07

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mey.vn created /Template:hotzeplotz (+138) "Created page with "<span class="h-card">{{sparkline|https://s.gravatar.com/avatar/4f0307d567aee5c748590e9a1de623f1?s=128}} [[User:Mey.vn|andrea rota]]</span>"" (view diff)
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@m_ott Alright. The @craftcms #webmention plugin now handles u-likes and u-reposts from sites other than Bridgy correctly. /cc @justb3a (twitter.com/_/status/739972569869213696)
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snarfed lol
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[kylewm] ironically I know a cat named Perl
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Loqi [kylewm]: sknebel left you a message 18 hours, 49 minutes ago: since you just spent time with service workers, could you take a look at https://indiewebcamp.com/service_worker and maybe add someful links or more info? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-05/line/1465190574197
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[kylewm] totes
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@m_ott Plus: It now shows a list of Webmentions in the backend and lets you delete spam. It’s on GitHub tomorrow. @craftcms #webmention #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/739974003935318016)
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kylewm thanks for the heads up gRegorLove
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@iwontsignuphere if you don't smile now, you don't have a heart. https://www.flickr.com/photos/tollwerk/26901954784/sizes/o/ #indieweb #indiewebsummit #indiegoofballs https://twitter.com/iwontsignuphere/status/739977084450177024/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739977084450177024)
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[benatwork] Pretty excited by how grumpy I look in that GIF
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aaronpk [benatwork]: hahaha you're like screw this i'm getting my phone
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@iwontsignuphere if you don't smile now, you don't have a heart. #indieweb #indiewebsummit #indiewebgoofballs https://www.flickr.com/photos/tollwerk/26901954784/sizes/o/ https://twitter.com/iwontsignuphere/status/739978845260894209/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/739978845260894209)
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@kevinmarks Looking forward to talking about #indieweb at #DWebSummit https://twitter.com/brewster_kahle/status/739604724274495488 (twitter.com/_/status/740000994235322370)
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acegiak anyone know if there's a way to set known to debug mode so it'll stop catching errors and then complaining that they're badly formed?
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GWG acegiak: Long time...
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acegiak Hi GWG!
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acegiak I have a massive workload these days so I don't get to pop in often
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acegiak also, I manage to fix my issue by just commenting out known's exception handler
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GWG acegiak: If you ever have less, I'd like to resume brain picking.l
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acegiak GWG: you're welcome to email me or github message me questions?
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acegiak I feel like my site development has stagnated a little which is sad
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acegiak I want to fix up the way salmentions are handled so that htey will also be handled on person-tags rather than just direct replies?
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GWG acegiak: Did you ever look at my attempt to address your salmention needs?
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GWG I never tested it
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acegiak oh! I'm not sure I saw it?
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acegiak can you link me?
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GWG acegiak: I'm playing with webmentions in a test repository and backporting changes to the existing plugins... https://github.com/dshanske/webmentions-and-more
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GWG Look at https://github.com/dshanske/webmentions-and-more/blob/master/includes/class-linkbacks-microformats-handler.php
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acegiak oh neat!
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acegiak I'll have a closer look once I'm finished at work
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GWG acegiak: Basically, I had 80 commits past the last commit pfefferle made, as he was busy with life. And he encouraged me to keep working, but he saw the scope of what I did and asked me to break it into smaller pieces.
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GWG So, I moved it over to this repo, where I can play with ideas to my hearts content. And I'm going to send him a commit a day.
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acegiak I saw you posting heaps of commits in that repo and wondered what it was
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acegiak cause I occasionally just check in on your github page to see what you've been up to :P
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GWG acegiak: The plugin does not work to the new webmention specification
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acegiak there's always work to do I guess
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GWG acegiak: When it was written, the specification didn't exist.
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acegiak yeah
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GWG Watch the Webmentions and More repository. I refactored everything and am still working on the refactoring. It includes the Semantic Linkbacks plugin as well. But designed as independent pieces within the same plugin.
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acegiak sounds super neat!
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GWG acegiak: I even spent some time changing ?webmention=endpoint to /webmention
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acegiak oh that's nice
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acegiak do you have plans to make it handle person tags?
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acegiak on my site I treat them as webmentions on my about-me page
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GWG acegiak: I want to figure out a better way to do homepage mentions, so that would address that.
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GWG But, my hope is to help push the webmention code so much that it could be inside WordPress Core someday.
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acegiak sounds awesome
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GWG Also, by having it in a repository, I can use it on my site.
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GWG While working on a more stable version separately.
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miklb evening IWC
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GWG Evening
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mblaney !tell snarfed my webmention endpoint discovery failed on your site due to: rel="http://webmention.org/"
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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mblaney (it used to work... but no longer allowed due to webmention.rocks)
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mblaney hi GWG, you mentioned rel .org support in #indiechat? so do you think this rel value is ok?
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GWG I'm not sure. I was going to pick the brains of the community about it.
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GWG It's dated.
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mblaney I guess it's not helpful to explicitly code out legacy implementations either... but will wait for some clarity then.
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mblaney nope sorry I just saw that rel="webmention" is there too... so it's just my code failing.
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mblaney !tell snarfed sorry for the noise, just a bug in my code.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG mblaney: What's new in SimplePie, by the way?
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mblaney GWG just a few microformats feed changes, parses a few extra properties for better author and category support.
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GWG Great
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mblaney also needed to add endpoint discovery for PubSubHubbub.
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mblaney the reason for the 1.4.1 release was a problem with 1.4, which had actually been there for a long time (when generating hashes for id's)
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mblaney I was pretty keen for a number change just for that fix, so if you want to push for a WordPress update 1.4.1 is the better option.
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mblaney enough from me though, how was the summit?
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GWG mblaney: It's in the hands of someone other than me.
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colintedford.com edited /SimplePie (+13) "/* See Also */ reader" (view diff)
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colintedford mblaney, are you using the main version of SimplePie on your site now or still a fork? (re: https://indiewebcamp.com/reader#Malcolm_Blaney )
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mblaney hi colintedford, thanks for that they are one and the same now :-) will update /reader
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colintedford Excellent :)
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colintedford Also, I think SimplePie should be listed as an item somewhere on /reader but not sure where
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on Webmention + Books = BookMention by Alex Schleber" by Alex Schleber http://boffosocko.com/2016/06/06/webmention-books-bookmention/#comment-30857
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colintedford Maybe a new section for libraries (/ resources / building blocks)?
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colintedford Not sure how such things are handled on other pages
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mrkrndvs Anyone have a suggestion how to avoid all of my Indieweb comments (i.e Twitter and G
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mrkrndvs going to the spam folder?
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GWG In what system?
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colintedford mblaney++ for adding mf2 support to SimplePie, btw
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Loqi mblaney has 13 karma
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GWG Hi, snarfed
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snarfed hi GWG!
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Loqi snarfed: mblaney left you a message 41 minutes ago: my webmention endpoint discovery failed on your site due to: rel="http://webmention.org/" http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-06/line/1465270807494
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Loqi snarfed: mblaney left you a message 29 minutes ago: sorry for the noise, just a bug in my code. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-06/line/1465271552615
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GWG snarfed, you missed fun this weekend.
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snarfed i caught a bit, looked great!
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GWG snarfed, my Indieweb bingo card is still incomplete though
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snarfed hey aaronpk, the IWC logotype (ie logo with IndieWebCamp caption) you had on the screen over the weekend was great! i'm giving an indieweb talk at dweb on thurs and i'd love to use it...got it handy?
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GWG I have to figure out how to reproduce that on the cheap.
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unicyclic.com mal edited /reader (+35) "/* Malcolm Blaney */" (view diff)
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kylewm hey snarfed, are you looking for this? https://github.com/indieweb/branding/blob/master/logos/PNG/indiewebcamp-logo-lockup-color%403x.png
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snarfed kylewm: aha, yes, thank you! i saw the logos in that repo but not the logotype. perfect!
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kylewm i don't know enough design lingo to know why "lockup" implies logotype
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kylewm (the other sizes might be better depending on your screen resolution)
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mrkrndvs GWG: using Wordpress
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GWG mrkrndvs: What plugin do you use for spam?
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techlifeweb GWG: Hey, Im using your Bridgy publish plugin for WP. Works great.
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GWG techlifeweb: I need to make some refreshes based on new features Bridgy has...but it's a nice simple way to send webmentions to Bridgy.
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techlifeweb GWG: it just works. I was simply including the link before and that seemed to be hit or miss for me. I mostly POSSE to twitter
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kylewm hey GWG, shouldn't you be, like, asleep?
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GWG techlifeweb: I'll keep that in mind. Tell me if there is anything I can keep in mind for future versions.
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GWG kylewm: I pushed myself awake.
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techlifeweb GWG: well I dont know if it is even possible but I wish there was a way for it to grab the like to the tweet and put it in the semantic links field so I didnt have to send the link in the tweet. There may be other plugins for this, I dont know.
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GWG techlifeweb: Can you rephrase that? I'm not sure I get the meaning.
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techlifeweb GWG: ok...
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miklb s/like to the tweet/link to the tweet/
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kylewm techlifeweb: https://brid.gy/about#omit-link ?
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techlifeweb GWG: I want to send my post to twitter and not include the link to my post
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techlifeweb kylewm: yes, that's it. You sent me that last week
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kylewm hehe oh, completely forgot
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techlifeweb for it to come full circle I need to include the twitter link in semantic links (at least I think that is how it works)
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GWG Semantic Linkbacks in WordPress is a plugin that enhances comments.
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GWG Or are you talking about Syndication Links? The plugin that displays the twitter link?
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techlifeweb yes, sorry Syndication Links is right
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GWG Syndication Links should pull the link back from Bridgy.
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techlifeweb Ah, ok. Maybe it is working and I didn't know it.
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techlifeweb I'll do some more testing.
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GWG If not, I will be looking at it again soon.
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kylewm GWG: did you see the problems with chris's wp theme we were discussing on github this morning? e-content wrapping too much stuff, syndication links and date and stuff
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GWG kylewm: Which github conversation was that?
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GWG kylewm: I know about the problem before that.
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GWG It is a common design issue.
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kylewm k, that's fine then. you don't need to see the specific conversation
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GWG I came up with a solution. It is a bit hacky.
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GWG Basically, WordPress has a filter around the content. Many plugins insert things under or above by filtering it.
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GWG My solution was to have my theme add e-content to the content filter at a high priority.
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techlifeweb For Bridgy I'm doing some selective stuff in my template using p-bridgy-[SILO]-content https://brid.gy/about#silo-content and basing it on the post type chosen
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GWG techlifeweb, wasn't an option when I wrote the plugin. Might revisit.
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techlifeweb Just part of the template. Bridgy sorts it out.
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miklb could probably add a shrotcode to handle those
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miklb s/shrotcode/shortcode/
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Loqi miklb meant to say: could probably add a shortcode to handle those
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GWG Will see
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miklb weird. Tried setting up Quill in a Fluid instance but when it validates with Indieauth it opens the link in my browser so it can authenticate.
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miklb s/can/can't/
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Loqi miklb meant to say: weird. Tried setting up Quill in a Fluid instance but when it validates with Indieauth it opens the link in my browser so it can't authenticate.
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petermolnar !tell gRegorLove thank you
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar GWG it's not only that it's filtered; when you use the built-in wordpress solutions for eg. replacing content, it triggers half of the world for action; I ended up replacing content with direct db calls when I wrote my fill-content by photo IPTC
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petermolnar but I guess that doesn't apply here (sorry, accidentally skipped a few lines when reading back)
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petermolnar WordPress-users, a question: since I still believe, the domain name itself is a weak link in the larger indieweb ecosystem (you're renting it, and it can be taken away), I was thinking to serve my site from a .onion as well, but apparently, this is harder to set up with WordPress as I expected. Had anyone done this before, serving the same WP with 2 domains?
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mrkrndvs GWG: Akismet. What should I use?
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mrkrndvs I use Akismet for spam, should I use something different?
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@mrkrndvs Meet the Hackers Who Want to Jailbreak the Internet http://www.wired.com/2013/08/indie-web/ via @WIRED #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/740161743221989376)
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GWG mrkrndvs: Not necessarily. I was going to look into that problem
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@mrkrndvs The New Editors of the Internet http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2014/08/the-new-editors-of-the-internet/378983/ #indieweb https://twitter.com/mrkrndvs/status/740163379784876032/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/740163379784876032)
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kylewm what is Fluid?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Fluid" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10N3
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kylewm Fluid is an OSX application that lets you open a webpage as a desktop app http://fluidapp.com/.
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loqi.me created /Fluid (+122) "prompted by kylewm https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-07/line/1465308274293 and dfn added by kylewm" (view diff)
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Loqi ok
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kylewm Is there already a page on the wiki for the propsed indiewebcamp -> indieweb name change and domain redirect?
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kylewm re: http://indiewebcamp.com/2016/Leaders#rename_to_indieweb
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kylewm what is rename to IndieWeb?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "rename to IndieWeb" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10N4
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kylewm rename to IndieWeb is a proposal from the 2016 IndieWeb Leaders Summit, to change our primary identity from IndieWebCamp to IndieWeb.
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Loqi ok
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snarfed we already have the twitter handle, so that means we're done, right?
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snarfed ducks
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rMdes twitter handles can be changed if needed. we could at least reserve it
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rMdes so that no one sits on it
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snarfed rMdes: heh, i meant we already have the @indieweb handle
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snarfed ...but actually i'm not sure we do
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snarfed ah well
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rMdes someone has it, seems to be owned by indieweb.com
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rMdes site down lol
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kylewm.com edited /rename_to_IndieWeb (+779) "Fill in the details" (view diff)
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kylewm snarfed: heh, yep we don't own and don't know who owns indieweb.com nor @indieweb ... we decided it wasn't a deal breaker because they are inactive
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kylewm "I guess it would be kind of hypocritical of me to say no because we don't own the twitter handle" -- me :)
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kylewm that's where this came from! https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/738874167416610817
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@kevinmarks who has @indieweb and http://indieweb.com ? cos I love this old banner [photo] (twitter.com/_/status/738874167416610817)
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kylewm http://web.archive.org/web/19961221025704/http://indieweb.com/
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kylewm quite the favicon
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Loqi [indieweb] "Shared a post by Kevin Marks" https://kylewm.com/2016/06/repost-of-kevin-marks-who-has-https-twitter-com-indiewebwitter
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aaronpk "lockup" refers to the text being converted to vectors so you don't need to have the font to open the original file
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aaronpk !tell snarfed here's the SVG version https://github.com/indieweb/branding/blob/master/logos/SVG/indiewebcamp-logo-lockup-color.svg
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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rMdes we have one more indieweb fan : www.celinebouton.eu
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rMdes pretty much setting her up now and getting her used to a bunch of principles & ideas
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@kevinmarks #DWebSummit kevin marks indieweb, composable and substitutable tech and bridge to silos (twitter.com/_/status/740220917582856192)
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Loqi [indieweb] "I really have to fix my enforcing of TLS on this site, otherwise until I do some #bridgy links don't get sync #indieweb" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/i-really-have-to-fix-my-enforcing-of-tls-on
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Loqi [indieweb] "A un niveau personel, tout un chacun peut appliquer des notions de #platformcoop sur sa présence en ligne, notamment avec #indieweb" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/a-un-niveau-personel-tout-un-chacun-peut-appliquer-des
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gregorlove.com edited /2016/Leaders (+28) "/* rename to indieweb */ link to main article" (view diff)
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gregorlove.com edited /IndieWebCamps (+296) "archive /2016" (view diff)
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gRegorLove Speaking of accessibility and tables, the list of sponsors on /2016 is a table.
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Loqi gRegorLove: petermolnar left you a message 9 hours, 51 minutes ago: thank you http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-07/line/1465286167380
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miklb crossing fingers, might have found solution to use bridgy to syndicate micropub notes
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GWG Morning
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@jimpick @bmann After the indieweb summit, I think the onramp is to build support into smart consumption apps like woodwind (next-gen RSS reader) (twitter.com/_/status/740253541168619520)
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aaronpk indiewebcamp pint glasses anyone? https://www.stickermule.com/products/transfer-stickers
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[shaners] SVG upload didn’t work. https://indiewebcamp.com/File:indiewebcamp-logo-horizontal-color.svg
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aaronpk libgomp lol
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aaronpk the file's there, it's just not making a preview https://indiewebcamp.com/images/7/7f/indiewebcamp-logo-horizontal-color.svg
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@grantpotter @jimgroom http://www.decentralizedweb.net/schedule/ livestream tomorrow looks fantastic #indieweb #indieedtech #DWebSummit (twitter.com/_/status/740277324051013632)
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Loqi [indieweb] "@jimgroom http://www.decentralizedweb.net/schedule/ livestream tomorrow looks fantastic #indieweb #indieedtech #DWebSummit" by Grant Potter http://known.networkeffects.ca/2016/jimgroom-schedule-livestream-tomorrow-looks-fantastic-indieweb-indieedtech-dwebsummit
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@notenoughneon To avoid confusion with Persistent Uniform Resource Locators, I'm renaming PURL to PURR: parse-update-render-repeat. 🐱 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/740279930437525506)
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+242) "/* June */ h-event for DW, schedule link, time correction for Amber's panel" (view diff)
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miklb that's a name I haven't seen in a long time -> @jimgroom
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aaronpk that's gonna be complicated on /this-week
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gRegorLove Heh. I was just doing that aaronpk :)
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aaronpk you can add h-event markup so it shows up as individual events on /this-week
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gRegorLove Ok. Not nested h-events, I presume
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aaronpk yeah
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gregorlove.com edited /Events (+172) "/* June */ separate h-event for kevinmarks" (view diff)
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gRegorLove No anchor links on their schedule page unfortunately
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gRegorLove snarfed: Cool to title your lightning talk "IndieWeb" on the wiki or have something else I should use?
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snarfed gRegorLove: whoa. um, sure! you're ahead of me, it hasn't happened yet and i haven't written it yet :P
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Loqi snarfed: aaronpk left you a message 5 hours, 36 minutes ago: here's the SVG version https://github.com/indieweb/branding/blob/master/logos/SVG/indiewebcamp-logo-lockup-color.svg http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-07/line/1465313976778
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gRegorLove Hahah
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gRegorLove This is a whole new level of tanteking!
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gRegorLove yay!
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Loqi giggles
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[shaners] @jeena: do you want to keep your image on the /buttons page or delete it? https://indiewebcamp.com/buttons#IndieWeb_from_Jeena
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Loqi [indieweb] "and we can connect the web with indieweb" by Kevin Marks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/and-we-can-connect-the-web-with-indieweb
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veganstraightedge.com created /Independents_Day (+541) "Created page with "=== Independents Day === See http://www.independentsday.org/x_phase/one/manifesto.php Graphics and buttons from From http://www.independentsday.org/x_phase/one/pastevents.php h..."" (view diff)
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snarfed unfortunate name collision :P http://falconframework.org/
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veganstraightedge.com edited /buttons () "(-550) /* Independents Day */" (view diff)
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veganstraightedge.com edited /buttons (+23) "/* See Also */" (view diff)
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veganstraightedge.com edited /buttons (-242) "/* IndieWebCamp Logo Square */" (view diff)
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veganstraightedge.com edited /press-kit (+101) "/* About */" (view diff)
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notenoughneon.com created /PURR (+651) "Created page with "'''<dfn>PURR</dfn>''' is an acronym for '''parse-update-render-repeat'''. It is a pattern for using published HTML + semantic markup as a content store. PURR addresses the issue..."" (view diff)
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[shaners] aaronpk: Do you want to be added to this list of contact on /press-kit? https://indiewebcamp.com/press-kit#Contacts
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aaronpk sure
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notenoughneon.com uploaded /Special:Log/upload "uploaded "[[File:purr.svg]]""
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aaronpk anyone want to help poke around the new version of the wiki?
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aaronpk need help looking for broken extensions/templates and things
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[shaners] aaronpk: "by IM, [[IRC]], or in-person if arranged.” Which?
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aaronpk that sounds good
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veganstraightedge.com edited /press-kit (+159) "/* Contacts */" (view diff)
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aaronpk http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/Main_Page
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[shaners] what’s that, apk?
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aaronpk it's a copy of the wiki running on my laptop, i upgraded mediawiki
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[shaners] oic
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aaronpk so it's quite likely there are broken things but the wiki is big and i need help finding them
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[shaners] Can we push it to production and find them live and together?
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aaronpk i'd really rather not
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aaronpk would like to do a first pass offline
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[shaners] ok ndb
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aaronpk also i haven't enabled indieauth sign-in on this copy yet
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colintedford aaronpk: Is all the content in? /jam seems to be missing.
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aaronpk oh!
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[shaners] Yeah. I’m not seeing a bunch of pages.
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aaronpk thx. i forgot i had an old database dump on my laptop already. one sec
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miklb aaronpk speaking of indieauth, any suggestion as to how to phrase a bug report to Fluid about loading the indieauth in a browser instead of staying inside the Fluid instance?
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aaronpk miklb: IIRC Fluid lets you whitelist certain URLs which stay within the Fluid instance
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aaronpk so it's not a bug per se
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miklb ah. I'll look closer at that then.
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aaronpk also in OAuth, you don't want to encourage apps to "embed" a browser in the app, since it's too easy to fake a similar looking page and create phishing attacks
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miklb thanks. Still working out getting micropub syndication working, so it's not imperative
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notenoughneon.com edited /Neonblog (+18) "add link to PURR" (view diff)
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notenoughneon.com edited /Skein (+3) "add link to PURR" (view diff)
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aaronpk okay thanks, re-imported the DB: http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/jam
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aaronpk this worked better than i thought
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colintedford I see functioning user templates on /jam
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colintedford Some kind of funkiness on http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/IRC-people
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colintedford ^ aaronpk
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aaronpk hm missing a plugin i think
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colintedford Github issues aren't showing on http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/wiki
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colintedford though links are still there as fallback
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veganstraightedge.com edited /Webmention-brainstorming (+1020) "/* storage */" (view diff)
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aaronpk thx fixed
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colintedford aaronpk: Some missing imgs at http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/2016/Nuremberg/IndieWeb-Hack-Day#Sponsors
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colintedford Not sure if mediawiki stuff or just typos
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aaronpk looks like new mediawiki doesn't allow img tags
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tantek aaronpk: it's a setting
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tantek or might require you upgrading some plugins?
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aaronpk hm no, that's not it... it looks like it's the same problem as on irc-people
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aaronpk templates are only expanding one deep
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[shaners] tantek: Does this capture what we talked about? http://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention-brainstorming#storage
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colintedford There's some more of that on http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/2015/Cambridge (looks like same basic "sparkline" templates as on /irc-people)
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Loqi IndieWebCampCambridge 2015
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Loqi [indieweb] "1 &#8211; Decentralized Web Summit &#8211; Builder's Day Notes" by jimpick http://www.kevinmarks.com/decentralweb2016-06-07.html
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colintedford aaronpk: No IRC logs at http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/IRC/logs
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colintedford also not much at http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/irc/today
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aaronpk irc logs are handled outside the wiki so that's fine
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gRegorLove aaronpk: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:$wgMaxTemplateDepth default is 40, but maybe it's missing entirely since we had such an old version
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colintedford ok
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colintedford ... /this-week stuff looks good
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gRegorLove Images in templates are working: http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/Template:t
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aaronpk hm $wgMaxTemplateDepth didn't fix irc-people
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colintedford (signup form, archives)
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[shaners] Looks like redirects are only going 1 level too http://indiewebcamp.com/shaners
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gRegorLove aaronpk: Is #if enabled?
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aaronpk i thought #if was part of parser functions
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colintedford shaners: I think that's how the wiki currently behaves
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colintedford (obvs it could be better)
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colintedford More Ben Roberts template funkiness at http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/h-feed -- other people's templates look fine.
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gRegorLove Hmm
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colintedford event_name templates not working on http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/events
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[shaners] colintedford: you’re right
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gRegorLove Hope there's a setting and not some major template-parsing change between versions...
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aaronpk hooboy
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gRegorLove That's the HWC template -- mostly working, but not showing the event_name parameter for some reason.
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gRegorLove Er, one-day-event template
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gRegorLove On the plus side, #if *is* working in that template, reflected on /events
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gRegorLove Common thing between that and the sparklines is template code inside an <a href>
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aaronpk yeah i'm pretty sure it's only parsing templates one level deep or something
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gRegorLove Template:one-day-event isn't including other templates, afaik
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gRegorLove And Template:irc user is working except for the stuff inside the <a href>
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tantek shaners, https://indiewebcamp.com/Webmention-brainstorming#storage looks good to me - thanks for capturing this
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gRegorLove aaronpk: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AnchorHandler ?
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gRegorLove Oh the joys of MediaWiki
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[jimpick] https://twitter.com/jimpick/status/740311449445093377
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@jimpick I put @kevinmarks notes from today's Decentralized Web Summit Builder's Day onto HN. It needs upvotes! #DWebSummit https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=11858525 (twitter.com/_/status/740311449445093377)
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colintedford gRegorLove: aaronpk: another one at top of http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/IndieWebCamp:Copyrights
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aaronpk gRegorLove: yep i installed that one
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gRegorLove checks http://iwc.tunnlr.xyz/Special:Version
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aaronpk oh i see... it's not parsing it because it's in an <a> tag
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aaronpk because that's parsed by AnchorHandler and probably doesn't tie into the template hooks
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colintedford OK, that's enough wiki-crawling for me.
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colintedford aaronpk++ for mediawiki-wrangling
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colintedford gRegorLove++ for template-sleuthing
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aaronpk yeah i think it's all because of the AnchorHandler not diving into the content of the <a> tag and parsing it
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gRegorLove Agreed. Weirdly not finding much when I try to google on that issue, though. Seems it would be somewhat common
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gRegorLove Hm. AnchorHandler says "By default, it simply passes through the text within the <a>...</a> tags."
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aaronpk yeah that's bad. it needs to recurse and parse the text inside
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gRegorLove But /irc-people isn't showing the <a href> in source at all, so maybe it's conflicting with some other extension, or core
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@m_ott I just updated the #webmention plugin for @craftcms: You can now view and 🗑 delete Webmentions in the Control Panel. https://github.com/matthiasott/webmention/tree/master/webmention (twitter.com/_/status/740321079856619520)
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gRegorLove Or maybe it's two problems
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Decentralized Web Summit 2016-06-07" http://www.kevinmarks.com/decentralweb2016-06-07.html
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@myriadmystic a special thank you to the #indiewebcamp crew for making this trip possible and for being so incredibly awesome this weekend (twitter.com/_/status/740325021734850560)
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@myriadmystic one of the best things about the #indiewebcamp community is the inclusiveness & safety, and it’s something that should recognized ❤️ (twitter.com/_/status/740326113432489984)
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Loqi [indieweb] "A Guide to Blogging Platforms and their Niches" by Aaron Davis https://medium.com/@mrkrndvs/a-guide-to-blogging-platforms-and-their-niches-dc4f93105528?source=rss-9428bb390fa6------2
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