#indiewebcamp 2016-06-16

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@cyberdees
Mozillians unite in Londinium. @t meet @davidwalshblog. You need to talk Indieweb. Do it.
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Loqi
[indieweb] "cyberdees: Mozillians unite in Londinium. @t meet @davidwalshblog. You need to talk Indieweb. Do it." by cyberdees http://twitter.com/cyberdees/status/743244082819043329
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gRegorLove
Hello from HWC Bellingham.
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gRegorLove
I might have recruited the barista. He'll be going to school for cybersecurity. Gave him a quick pitch for indieweb and he seemed interested.
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tantek
hello!
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tantek
gRegorLove: awesome
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gregorlove.com
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gRegorLove
tantek: Any other edits before I replicate to the rest of July? ^
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tantek
looking
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tantek
let's comment out Washington DC until jgarber finds another venue
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tantek
I believe LA is scheduled it come back online starting with 2016-07-13 so let's uncomment that
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tantek
and let's put in London commented out also
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tantek
they've announced they're going to do it monthly!
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tantek
I'd say that's good enough for a commented out by default inclusion
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gregorlove.com
edited /events/2016-07-13-homebrew-website-club (+477) "+London (commented), commented out DC, uncommented LA"
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gregorlove.com
created /events/2016-07-27-homebrew-website-club (+5607) "stub based on 2016-07-13"
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tantek
checks the dates
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tantek
hey SF, anyone at the Dome yet?
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tantek
yeah!
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aaronpk
andrew: thingie.org
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aaronpk
hosted on dreamhost , "this space intentionally left blank"
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aaronpk
might have expired now
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aaronpk
also had a shadyurl shorturl generator that generated communist propaganda in the url slug
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aaronpk
shaners: when was the last time you published anything on a website or a url that you own
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aaronpk
andrew: yesterday when i published a skybot update
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aaronpk
at slack.jstal.in
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aaronpk
andrew: i made a bot that tells me the weather forecast for the next hour
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aaronpk
it's on six different slacks, hipchat and IRC, and SMS
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aaronpk
reid: my website is reidblomquist.com
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aaronpk
... i dont think i've published anything to it for months, built it and published it and haven't touched it
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kylewm
we're just getting started here in SF
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aaronpk
... the next thing i want to do is turn it into an aframe site (what moz vr turned into)
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kylewm
tantek: we've got 4
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aaronpk
... you go to a website and load it on a phone and can look around, or view it in cardboard
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tantek
kylewm great! any new folks? saw a bunch of friends RSVP on FB that had not gone before
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aaronpk
donpdonp: my domain is donp.org
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aaronpk
... it supports indieauth
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kylewm
tantek: nope, all oldtimers
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aaronpk
... i publish rml.donp.org i log expenses there, and it's activitystream-ish
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aaronpk
... my goal is to make the main page much more of a lifeblogging site
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aaronpk
s/blogging/logging
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Loqi
aaronpk meant to say: ... my goal is to make the main page much more of a lifelogging site
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aaronpk
... purchases, eating, anything i actively do
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aaronpk
... i also track my location on icecondor
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aaronpk
brennan: brennannovak.com is my site which has a page that says sorry for the convenience we're down
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aaronpk
... last week i got paranoid that someone had hacked my site because it was still using a SHA1 cert and got stuck down a dependency hole
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aaronpk
... i want to move to a flat file site, jekyll or some node thing, hugo, metalsmith,
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aaronpk
... not react, i don't wnat to load 2mb of javascript
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aaronpk
... i'm interested in the verifiability of data, so the URL can change but you know the content is still the same
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aaronpk
... maybe we can't count on AWS, or maybe i want my content to be hosted on a raspberry pi, but the important thing is the content
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aaronpk
shaners: have you looked at ipfs?
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aaronpk
bnvk: yeah
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aaronpk
apk: aaronparecki.com
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aaronpk
apk: lots on my todo list. next is maybe: photos / albums, not instagram style. more like flickr style.
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aaronpk
apk: the full photo archives
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aaronpk
apk: facebook and twitter have posts with multiple photos
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aaronpk
apk: if i can do that on my site, that'd replace my use of flickr
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aaronpk
apk: i want to be able to publish public photo albums
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aaronpk
apk: recently I did the js to do a flickr style masonry photo album page
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aaronpk
shaners: veganstraightedge.com
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aaronpk
... my username everywhere else is veganstraightedge
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aaronpk
... i finally got veganstraightedge.com after about 7 years. i piad too much for it.
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gregorlove.com
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aaronpk
... shanebecker.com is an australian christian guy, i was talking with him, but he wouldn't give it to me. now it's just a redirect to a pdf of his resume in dropbox
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aaronpk
... my website software is darkmatter
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aaronpk
.. it's one click deployable to heroku, i demo'd last week
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KevinMarks
can you play this back?
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KevinMarks
2F%252Ftracker.btorrent.xyz%26tr%3Dwss%253A%252F%252Ftracker.fastcast.nz%26tr%3Dwss%253A%252F%252Ftracker.openwebtorrent.com%26tr%3Dwss%253A%252F%252Ftracker.webtorrent.io
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aaronpk
... i post things to my site like notes, my notes have autoembeds
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aaronpk
... i have a dozen or so autoembed patterns
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aaronpk
... it really livened up my feed, there's photos and videos now
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aaronpk
... the next thing i want to work that will improve my day to day life is being able to manually edit and add syndicated URLs to a post
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aaronpk
... right now i write a post and click syndicate to twitter, but if i want to also publish it to medium or tumblr then i have to go into the rails console and create database records
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aaronpk
... i want to be able to walk back through my feed and say everything that has an instagram url and add the "also posted on" link
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gregorlove.com
edited /Homebrew_Website_Club (+36) "Bellingham getting started"
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aaronpk
shaners: demoing posting interface
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aaronpk
... basically a tab switcher without javascript using css
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aaronpk
andrew: by the next meeting, i will have published automatic pancake
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aaronpk
donp: what does that mean?
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aaronpk
andrew: you'll see
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gRegorLove
If I add set up PuSH (superfeeder) for my notes, using rel=self of gregorlove.com/notes/, will it work with just HTML? Or does superfeedr use the Atom feed on that page?
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gRegorLove
I'm guessing yes, since aaronpk has it on his his notes page and no feed
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aaronpk
surprise HWC guest
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aaronpk
sarah: i'm reading a book on http for our book club at work
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aaronpk
... i don't have a website yet but i'm learning!
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Why do you feel this way ? Personally I am glad that Known empowered me to get into the indieWeb :-)" by Hugo (@hugo) http://seen.li/am5m
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gRegorLove
I added a "PuSH This" button to my post-publish UI for notes, so I can send push notifications on-demand. For now I'm good with doing it manually (catch typos, etc.)
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gRegorLove
And of course the button switches to "PuSH it real good" when you click it.
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gRegorLove
And that concludes Bellingham HWC o/
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tantek.com
edited /person-tag (+1272) "bridgy publish, twitter"
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tantek
nice photo aaronpk !
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tantek
hoping SF took / posted a photo!
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@veganstraightedge
I had a great time at #homebrewwebsiteclub Portland tonight. New and old friends. #indieweb
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kylewm.com
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kylewm.com
uploaded /File:sf-hwc-2016-06-15.jpg "SF Homebrew Website Club (2016-06-15)"
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edited /friendica (-1) "Redirected page to [[Friendica]]"
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Repost of Kevin Marks's tweet" by Chris Aldrich http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/repost-of-kevin-markss-tweet-1e9b300e28
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cweiske
awesome title
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cweiske
totally useless
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KartikPrabhu
cweiske: be nice! people might be still tinkering with their sites ;)
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Ruxton
Here's the real question, whats should be the title of a tweet/note? the content?
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KartikPrabhu
Ruxton: yes very good point
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cweiske
"RT: content of the tweet"
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Ruxton
that's what I'd expect too
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Ruxton
even the content with a repost type
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Ruxton
would suffice
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@webstandards_up
IndieWebCamp, собрание людей, противостоящих корпоративному вебу. Создавайте личные сайты, но у кого есть время? https://indiewebcamp.com/
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@rachelandrew
Use IndieAuth to sign into websites with your domain https://indieauth.com/ via @adactio at @cssdayconf
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christophe.ducamp.me
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tantek
xtof++ thanks!
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Loqi
xtof has 1 karma
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petermolnar_
!tell GWG yesterday I added update & delete support to wp-webmention-again; I think the wordpress-webmention is ok with updates by default, my deduplication was preventing it, but the delete is tricky.
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Loqi
petermolnar_: GWG left you a message 14 hours, 2 minutes ago: Would you consider rewriting your webmention plugin as an alternative request handler for the older plugin? http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-15/line/1466017709246
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Loqi
petermolnar_: tantek left you a message 9 hours, 39 minutes ago: forgot to mention at HWC London - MozFest is coming up (once again in Ravensbourne), submit session/speaking proposals: https://mozillafestival.org/proposals ASAP! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-15/line/1466033461993
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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petermolnar_
!tell GWG re "rewriting your webmention plugin as an alternative request handler for the older plugin" I think I could, probably, yes, but I'm limited on resources these days, especially on time :)
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi
[indieweb] "I might have a try to get woodwind.xyz self-hosted, I want to try to make it my only reader. #indieweb replace @inoreader with the advantage" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/i-might-have-a-try-to-get-woodwindxyz-self-hosted-i
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tantek.com
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cweiske
a personal blog with per-paragraph comments, medium-like: http://kmkeen.com/maintainers-matter/
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GWG
Morning
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Loqi
GWG: petermolnar_ left you a message 3 hours, 8 minutes ago: yesterday I added update & delete support to wp-webmention-again; I think the wordpress-webmention is ok with updates by default, my deduplication was preventing it, but the delete is tricky. http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-16/line/1466068231395
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Loqi
GWG: petermolnar_ left you a message 3 hours, 8 minutes ago: re "rewriting your webmention plugin as an alternative request handler for the older plugin" I think I could, probably, yes, but I'm limited on resources these days, especially on time :) http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-16/line/1466068283796
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petermolnar_
this is what I had to add to support http 410 gone for posts that are trashed but not deleted yet: https://github.com/petermolnar/wp-webmention-again/blob/master/wp-webmention-again.php#L95
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GWG
petermolnar, I didn't say you should do it any time soon.
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GWG
petermolnar, there is a plugin for 410.
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petermolnar_
huh? I was looking for something like that and couldn't find it
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petermolnar_
I should have searched for 410 only
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GWG
It does it by creating a table though for deleted posts.
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GWG
I would have gone for a post status for deleted.
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rMddes_
rmdes
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petermolnar_
ok, that plugin didn't work for me; I just tried delete-mention with it, so I'll stick to the solution from yesterday
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GWG
petermolnar_: I don't use it. I was going to brainstorm solutions at some point.
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GWG
petermolnar_: I also want to look at a better method for exotic webmentions
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rMdes_
kylewm, do "repost" (from a tweet) are supposed to provoke a retweet with the KnownReactions plugin ?
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rMdes_
going to repost this tweet of yours : https://twitter.com/kylewmahan/status/741682631759167488 and see if i can replicate this, if kylewm gets a RT it's Known doing it, not me from twitter.
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@kylewmahan
Things Indiewebcamp says: "June is broken"
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kylewm
rmdes: yeah, repost translates to retweet
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rMdes_
seems logical now that I actually think about it, I tought it was supposed to create a post about a tweet...but it's much more fun like this !
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rMdes_
trying to find out the plugins, activatign and testing one by one, but only disabled plugins on my list now is the sitemap & emoji plugin
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rMdes_
& POSSE-rt are definitely working :))
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tantek
good to see you last night tommorris !
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tantek
I forgot to mention last night, you should see how emmahodge.org has been improving
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tommorris
oh awesome
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tommorris
good to see you too tantek
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Loqi
tommorris: tantek left you a message 14 hours, 14 minutes ago: forgot to mention at HWC London - MozFest is coming up (once again in Ravensbourne), submit session/speaking proposals: https://mozillafestival.org/proposals ASAP! http://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-15/line/1466033461993
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tantek
Just noticed that https://github.com/indieweb/blank-gh-site lacks a README - what would be the minimal steps to put there?
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tantek
like "clone this repo to your own and rename it to"
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tommorris
tantek: you going to be in London for MozFest? perhaps we could have an indieweb session there
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tantek
tommorris: not sure if I can make it to MozFest yet
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tantek
definitely thinking about it!
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tantek
regardless, you should totally propose indieweb session!
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tantek
huh I can't figure out from https://indiewebcamp.com/github-pages what you're supposed to name the repo to
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tommorris
tantek: I added the README
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tantek
thank you!
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tantek
tommorris++
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Loqi
tommorris has 97 karma
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tantek
has been spoiled by seeing Loqi updates from gh indieweb commits issues etc.
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tantek.com
edited /GitHub (+2739) "move POSSE to github text back here from the github pages page"
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tantek.com
edited /GitHub (+69) "see github-pages right at the top"
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GWG
What itches are people scratching today?
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tantek.com
edited /github-pages () "(-2460) why, how, move existing sections accordingly, link to quick start indieweb/gh-pages, new IndieWeb Examples section of those using gh pages, cut stuff that should be moved back to /GitHub"
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tantek
GWG, I'm scratching the "I want to help others quickly get started on the indieweb" itch
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tantek
with helping a few people here at # MozLondon get setup with github pages
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tantek
which is then making me go fix update the /github and /github-pages pages
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GWG
I'm waiting to send more PRs to pfefferle.
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GWG
Sending one at a time is hard.
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GWG
In the meantime, doing some incremental adjustments.
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tommorris
GWG: OSM noodling for checkin DB.
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GWG
tommorris: You coming back to NYC for IWC NYC2? Snow will not be attending this time
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tommorris
GWG: not sure. my travel plans are non-existent at the moment.
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GWG
I have to see if aaronpk can mirror that registration page we used for the Summit for NYC2.
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GWG
I still have location on my list to get back to. I may get some ideas
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@RikMende
Par où commencer avec le concept #indieweb ? - IndieWebCamp #indieweb: https://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started-fr
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Par où commencer avec le concept #indieweb ? - IndieWebCamp #indieweb" by Rick Mendes https://indiewebcamp.com/Getting_Started-fr
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Repost of Known to Medium !" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/repost-of-known-to-medium--49356621f9
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Repost of Commencer sur l'#indieweb ?" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/repost-of-commencer-sur-lindieweb--84e742fa92
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Repost of "You Own Your Data" or "We Own Our Data" ?" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/repost-of-you-own-your-data-or-we-own-our
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Geez, just realised I can "OWN" my #Twitter Retweets #indieweb love #itworks" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/geez-just-realised-i-can-own-my-twitter-retweets-indieweblove
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Repost of Jim Pick's tweet" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/repost-of-jim-picks-tweet-ea6fe1de93
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Repost of Putting the #IndieWeb into context" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/repost-of-putting-the-indieweb-into-context--f646984388
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miklb
tantek my jekyll-indieweb repo could help with that
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aaronpk
heh yeah twitter blocking does not work like you'd expect
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tantek
aaronpk: I decided to just document it factually on the wiki instead of blogging about it
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GWG
aaronpk, any chance you can mirror the registration page for NYC2?
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aaronpk
definitely!
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aaronpk
speaking of which, what should an event page do with RSVPs it receives after the event is over
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ben_thatmustbeme
display it as they had attended (assuming they rsvp yes)
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ben_thatmustbeme
people sometimes go back and rsvp to events they attended after the fact, so people can find them
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aaronpk
GWG: you're thinking ti.to tickets for NYC also?
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GWG
aaronpk, I have to figure out what the capacity is, but I agree with the points discussed in Portland.
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GWG
Having a nice event page helps... even without the $5 thing.
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aaronpk
I'll make a new ti.to event that has only free tickets
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GWG
I think if we start posting a nice event page this early... I'm not sure venue capacity though
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aaronpk
will there be a preparty?
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GWG
aaronpk, I am the worst person to plan a party. I do need to talk to my co organizer though.
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GWG
I am going to try to create some of the usual pages tonight.
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aaronpk
great, and also update the text around registering and adding yourself to the guest list
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GWG
aaronpk, that is why I asked.
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GWG
I wanted to highlight that.
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GWG
Wordcamp NYC is on July
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GWG
Might be able to cross pollinate
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GWG
Although networking is something I am awkward at.
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aaronpk
I'm having trouble remembering if we came up with a good solution to handle indie RSVPs plus ti.to registration
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GWG
I forget.
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aaronpk
i'm having trouble coming up with text to include on the page that makes sense
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aaronpk
it seems weird to ask people to register for a ticket and also send an indie RSVP
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[aaronpk]
The only reason I'd need them to register on Tito is to get their email address to be able to email the pre event info
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[aaronpk]
So... Maybe the answer is to get their email some other way
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aaronpk
GWG: initial event page is up! still needs some work with the text on figuring out how to deal with ti.to vs indie RSVPs http://2016.indieweb.org/nyc2
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Loqi
IndieWebCamp NYC2 2016
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Loqi
[Sophie Kleeman] Here's What Happened To All 53 of Marissa Mayer's Yahoo Acquisitions
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[benatwork]
Ignore the headline and subhead; it’s a pretty nuanced, interesting article
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gRegorLove
aaronpk: I can't remember either / maybe we didn't come to a decision. We talked a while about it and might have put a pin in it.
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aaronpk
i remember we wanted to timebox that discussion so that seems likely
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[kevinmarks]
Ev seems to go back and forth in open web in there
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gRegorLove
Does tito have an API for importing registrations, sans email?
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aaronpk
doesn't look like their api supports adding registrations http://teamtito.github.io/tito-api-docs/
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aaronpk
but i can ask them to add it
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gRegorLove
I don't see it in the notes, but I recall talking about adding a checkbox to not have your name shown publicly
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gRegorLove
along with a pseudonym field.
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aaronpk
I added a question to this event that asks that, didn't add a pseudonym field yet
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www.rmendes.net
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Loqi
[indieweb] "Reweaving the web" by Taiwo Talabi http://gtkyolo.com/reweaving-the-web/
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veganstraightedge.com
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j4y_funabashi
SWAT0 is hard, but trying to implement it is making me think about my site in a completely different way!
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aaronpk
Nice, they're adding an API to add registraitons
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@umwdtlt
Hypothes.is Aggregator ”• a WordPress plugin, by @krisshaffer http://umwdtlt.com/hypothesis-aggregator-wordpress-plugin/ #DoOO #IndieWeb #IndieEdTech
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[kevinmarks]
What is pingpad?
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Loqi
It looks like we don't have a page for "pingpad" yet. Would you like to create it? https://indiewebcamp.com/s/10NH
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[kevinmarks]
Pingpad is a wiki app for slack.
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loqi.me
created /Pingpad (+59) "prompted by [kevinmarks] https://indiewebcamp.com/irc/2016-06-16/line/1466103614377 and dfn added by [kevinmarks]"
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@AlexSchleber
Things he constructed were usually never quite that open to begin with... #indieweb https://twitter.com/yayitsrob/status/743474249227210754
(twitter.com/_/status/743524039105228800)
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GWG
The 2016 NYC2 page is looking good
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GWG
Need to add more the wiki version
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david.shanske.com
edited /2016/NYC2 (+36) "/* RSVP */"
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david.shanske.com
edited /2016/NYC2 (+9) "/* RSVP */"
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GWG
How's that?
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Loqi
[indienews] New post: "Part 2 of Shane’s series, “Regarding the Indie Web: Why”" http://veganstraightedge.com/articles/2016/06/05/regarding-the-indie-web-why (from http://gregorlove.com/2016/06/part-2-of-shanes-series/)
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GWG
tantek: Can you look at the phrasing and weigh in re NYC2? You have a way of cutting to the heart of a problem.
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tantek
what is NYC2?
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Loqi
IndieWebCamp NYC2 2016 is on 2016-08-27 at Dalberg Global Development Advisors NYC https://indiewebcamp.com/NYC2
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tantek
hey this is looking great
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tantek
GWG, have you shown Emma?
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tantek
GWG, looks like https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/NYC2/Schedule needs to be created (linked from 2016.indieweb.org/NYC2
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GWG
tantek: I know. I'm saving that for a time not my lunch hour.
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GWG
tantek: How do I find Emma?
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tantek
who is EmmaHodge?
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tantek.com
created /User:Emmahodge.org (+60) "stub with name and domain dfn"
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tantek
who is Emma Hodge?
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tantek
GWG, you can start with her website she created at IWC NYC :) http://emmahodge.org/
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GWG
I was considering Twitter.
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tantek.com
edited /rsvp (+509) "/* Publish an RSVP */ example with explicit authoring information, let's see if that'll help more folks with getting a name and icon to show up for their indie RSVP"
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tantek
GWG, seems like a reasonble consideration
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tantek
s/reasonble/reasonable
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Loqi
tantek meant to say: GWG, seems like a reasonable consideration
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tantek.com
edited /2016/NYC2 (+14) "/* RSVP */ Projects list instead of Guest List to further disambiguate and clarify that that part is optional (but suggested)"
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tantek
GWG, cool re: saving that for a time not my lunch hour
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tantek
if you that time later, definitely clone /2016/NYC2/Schedule from /2016/Schedule and update it accordingly. As well as cloning /2016/NYC2/Projects_List from /2016/Guest_List
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tantek
oh look we have a page for that
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tantek.com
edited /2016/NYC2/Planning (+273) "wiki pages"
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tantek
!tell GWG ok I collected those things in https://indiewebcamp.com/2016/NYC2/Planning#Wiki_Pages so we can keep track and update as we get the tasks done
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Loqi
Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek.com
edited /logo (+209) "Previously, link to historical original logo and previous logo page with various contributions"
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