#indieweb 2016-07-12

2016-07-12 UTC
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aaronpk that conversation was from january, he may not be accepting new accounts right now at all
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miklb right, but I was assuming snarfed just registered
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snarfed i did
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aaronpk aha
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miklb or I typed in my email address wrong when I registered :-o
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gRegorLove Interesting use of one-time email passwords on that registration form, too.
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KevinMarks1 http://snippets.today/users/kevinmarks
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gRegorLove blank pages
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aaronpk hopes he turns on ember "fastboot" before launching
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KevinMarks1 yeh, there's some js;dr stuff going on, give it a minute
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gRegorLove There's a 500 error on an xhr, that's probably it.
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KevinMarks1 supports xml and js consumption feeds, nto html ones
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gRegorLove Yeah, 500 on http://snippets.today/posts/kevinmarks
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gRegorLove Did you make a post yet?
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KevinMarks1 http://www.unmung.com/feed?feed=http%3A%2F%2Fsnippets.today%2Fposts%2Fkevinmarks.xml
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KevinMarks1 it's pulling my Known feed
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KevinMarks1 it's feeds are description only
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[benatwork] wooooooo breaking the internet
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KevinMarks1 thats RSS for you
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KevinMarks1 so, can we help manton to do the things aaron suggested in january?
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mblaney since we're trialling microblogging sites, feel free to test mine: https://unicyclic.com/register :-)
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mblaney (would honestly appreciate the feedback, and promise not to kickstarter it :-P)
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KevinMarks1 who is manton?
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miklb I know of him as a Mac developer
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miklb mblaney Password is the wrong format
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mblaney milkb: thanks yeah it's a bit strict, need to fix that. try alphanumeric, underscores and dash for now.
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KevinMarks1 didn't get an email
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KevinMarks1 is manton Bay Area based? shoudl we invite him to HWC to help him get his tempates indiewebeified?
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miklb Austin
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mblaney KevinMarks1: from unicyclic.com? it may have gone to spam, but you don't really need it. you can log in with the password you provided.
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[chrisaldrich] thanks gRegorLove! I found an edit in the wiki saying he was probably in SF this week. We'll have to plan some fun while he's away.
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npdoty I like the sound of this snippets.today business, but I don't have an invite code to try it out ;(
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mblaney KevinMarks1 thanks for the feedback, I fixed the bug that stopped the confirmation email getting to you.
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mblaney npdoty feel free to try mine instead ;-)
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npdoty mblaney, link reminder?
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mblaney https://unicyclic.com/register
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npdoty thx
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mblaney npdoty: my mail log is telling me there's issues with your email address, but you don't need to receive an email from unicyclic.com to log in.
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mblaney email really is a horrible beast.
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mblaney miklb: thanks, fixed the password problem you had.
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aaronpk does anyone's micropub server return "HTTP 202 Accepted" instead of 201 when creating a post?
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GWG What are pros/cons?
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snarfed async
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snarfed i assume
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snarfed btw aaronpk, just fyi, looks like the web irc websocket msges have utc timestamps
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snarfed !tell npdoty use invite code 'indieweb' for snippets.today
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG async for Micropub...pros and cons though
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gRegorLove How about use-cases?
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GWG gRegorLove: Async in Webmention is meant to prevent abuse
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gRegorLove e.g. post a draft that isn't publicly viewable
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GWG gRegorLove: We both have that
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gRegorLove Facebook has profile videos now? As an alternative to profile photo.
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gRegorLove Since last fall, I guess. Only via the apps.
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KevinMarks Is the known micropub synchronous? I think it might be
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KevinMarks I just posted to known using quill.p3k.io - did you get a 201 or 202?
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bear @aaronpk - my micropub endpoint returns a 202 for a CREATE
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bear if you need I can hard code your domain credentials so you can create test posts
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pfefferle good morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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pfefferle Loqi you speak german?
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KevinMarks Morning pfefferle
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pfefferle morning KevinMarks
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voxpelli good morning
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bear I woldn't be surprised if aaronpk made loqi aware of what your profile's TZ is
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Loqi yeah!
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bear (pure speculation, I have no real info on that)
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bear good morning
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pfefferle bear nice little gimmik :)
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bear it's the small touches that make you forget it's a bot
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@kevinmarks https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/how-technology-disrupted-the-truth?CMP=indieweb #indieweb fighting back https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/752775694283739136/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/752775694283739136)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Repost of Kevin Marks's tweet" by Rick Mendes https://www.rmendes.net/2016/repost-of-kevin-markss-tweet-1ce3d20809
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@RikMende Gorgeous Chat/log integration with the @indiewebcamp wiki & multi-chat ability #indieweb #datalove https://twitter.com/RikMende/status/752786243943997440/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/752786243943997440)
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cweiske .
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Loqi cweiske: aaronpk left you a message 17 hours, 22 minutes ago: thanks for the pointer, I'm updating that page to reflect my updated site. I never did serve those publicly, and also only downloaded the HTML, I didn't download linked resources
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@pranesh While I enjoyed reading @KathViner's essay on truth in the public sphere, I'm afraid it's largely ahistorical: https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jul/12/how-technology-disrupted-the-truth?CMP=indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/752835731341643776)
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cmal aaronpk, you're the maintainer of pin13, right?
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cweiske yes
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cmal Parsing h-events I get results which don't seem to correspond to my markup
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cmal see https://events.subversive.audio/en/events and https://pin13.net/mf2/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fevents.subversive.audio%2Fen%2Fevents
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cmal the h-feed seems to automatically pick up the children's summaries as well, who find themselves without a summary, but get a "value" which comes out of nowhere
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cweiske aaronpk will redirect you to the php-mf2 parser
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cmal oh it's just a wrapper around php-mf2?
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cweiske yes
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cmal thank you for the info :)
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cmal okay I'll give it a try just dumping the values from php-mf2 to see what it gives, thank you for the pointer cweiske
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Loqi [indieweb] "Decentralize now?" by Simon St. Laurent http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/oreilly/radar/atom/~3/UE7mFNfHYm4/decentralize-now
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Loqi [indieweb] "Decentralize now?" by Simon St. Laurent https://www.oreilly.com/ideas/decentralize-now
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aaronpk thanks bear
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aaronpk does anyone's micropub endpoint return a rel=shortlink or rel=syndication value when creating a post? described here http://micropub.net/draft/#response
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[kevinmarks] Cmal unmung.com sees 2 h-feeds
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cmal KevinMarks_, indeed, this is pretty normal, but my bad aaronpk one of my templates was just messed up and I didn't realize by looking at the source :)
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cmal sorry for the false alarm :)
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aaronpk :)
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aaronpk I left a note in the bottom of the parsed result from pin13.net that explain what library it's using, did you not see that?
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aaronpk maybe i should move it to the top :)
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bear did you see my response about micropub endpoint returning 202?
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aaronpk yep thanks
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bear k, I see from the backscroll your doing more of a survey than testing something
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cmal aaronpk, I didn't see it, no. Was more looking for it in the front page, to be honest :)
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aaronpk that would be helpful too
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cmal :)
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@adactio One sleep until Homebrew Website Club Brighton https://indieweb.org/events/2016-07-13-homebrew-website-club#Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/752903846255554561)
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@OldTownRA Found on Twitter: #BTODAY https://twitter.com/adactio/status/752903846255554561 - One sleep until Homebrew Website Club Brighton https://indieweb.org/events/2016-07-13-homebrew-website-club#Brighton (twitter.com/_/status/752911043651928064)
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[kylewm] :musical_note: ONE SLEEP TIL BRIGHTON! :musical_note:
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Loqi [kylewm]: tantek left you a message 1 day, 1 hour ago: if kevinmarks hasn't already, could you post a FB POSSE copy for the HWC SF indie event this week (or make your own), and link to it from the event page SF RSVP section? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-07-13-homebrew-website-club#San_Francisco
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tantek :)
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gRegorLove Hahah
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Loqi hahaha
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gRegorLove Always gotta one-up, Loqi.
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Loqi [indieweb] "WordCamp Orange County 2016" by Chris Aldrich http://boffosocko.com/2016/07/12/wordcamp-orange-county-2016/
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Loqi [indieweb] ""WordCamp Orange County 2016" in Boffo Socko" by ChrisAldrich https://medium.com/boffo-socko/wordcamp-orange-county-2016-4335e2d72369?source=rss-f9e3747f5480------2
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cmal just committed microformats2 and internationalization support for the Grav events plugin ~o~ https://github.com/kalebheitzman/grav-plugin-events/pull/20
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miklb what is Grav?
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Loqi Grav is a flat-file CMS built on PHP, Twig and YAML and Markdown https://indieweb.org/grav
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cmal miklb, imo it's the best-designed CMS I've seen around… Just found out about it two weeks ago and I'm now struggling for full Indieweb compatibility :)
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tantek what is a photo comment?
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@jkphl Dank @iwontsignuphere wieder ein nettes Set vom HWC Nürnberg letzte Woche https://www.flickr.com/short_urls.gne?photoset=aHskDP48FB Nächster Halt: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-07-20-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/752934883039842304)
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Loqi photo comment is what a photo reply looks like in the context of the original post that it is in-reply-to https://indieweb.org/photo_comment
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tantek what is a video comment
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "video comment" yet. Would you like to create it?
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@IndieWebCampDE Dank @iwontsignuphere wieder ein nettes Set vom HWC Nürnberg letzte Woche https://www.flickr.com/short_urls.gne?photoset=aHskDP48FB Nächster Halt: https://indieweb.org/events/2016-07-20-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/752935023880376320)
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tantek A video comment is what a video reply looks like in the context of the original post that it is in-reply-to. Video replies and comments are supported by [[Facebook]] as of 2016-07-12 (screenshot needed).
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove cmal: Are you running Grav on your site currently? If so you should add an IndieWeb Examples section to /grav
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gRegorLove What is YAML?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "YAML" yet. Would you like to create it?
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cmal gRegorLove, that's my plan
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cmal it's a WIP but I think I'm mostly done by now
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cmal (at least for the microformats2 part)
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gRegorLove Cool. All of our sites here are WIP :)
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cmal I'm going to document this as soon as I get my personal website on it
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cmal which I was just about to do :)
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cmal gRegorLove, true :)
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miklb "All of our sites here are WIP" ain't that the truth :-)
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neilpdx_ please kick ghost neilpdx ?
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bear YAML is a human-readable data serialization language, see http://www.yaml.org/start.html for details
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Loqi ok
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bear yaml is YAML
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bear what is yaml
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Loqi YAML (YAML Ain't Markup Language) is a data serialization standard https://indieweb.org/YAML
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bear oh my - someone is getting fancy
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bear aaronpk++ for the small things in life that make documentation easier
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Loqi aaronpk has 182 karma
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tantek what is a WIP?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WIP" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove WIP is work in progress.
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Loqi ok
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gRegorLove Sorry, beat you to it manually bear :)
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bear :)
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bear I added some history to the page and some see-also's
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gRegorLove I'm still getting used to not seeing wiki edits in here
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cweiske website screenshots created with phancap now include meta data, see http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/phancap-0.4.0.htm#c1 - I'll start to use it as tool for https://indieweb.org/archival_copy
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@killerog .@pelago_io looks like an interesting attempt to manage music across platforms. Depends on how open and like @indiewebcamp they'll be. (twitter.com/_/status/752949014337912832)
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Loqi [indieweb] "phancap 0.4 embeds meta data - Christian Weiske" http://cweiske.de/tagebuch/phancap-0.4.0.htm
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neilpdx_ slack user????
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aaronpk oops, I forgot to change that message for the web gateway :)
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neilpdx no problemo friendo
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neilpdx maybe i will see you wed night
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aaronpk great!
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neilpdx i am a certified Linux sysadmin, certified by LPI. in case you need professional sysadmin assistance
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cmal good night
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Loqi buenas noches
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Loqi [indieweb] "Certainly there's a lot to learn from @ShitposterClub and @HopeStillFlies about selective reply propagation #indieweb" by Kevin Marks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/certainly-theres-a-lot-to-learn-from-shitposterclub-and-hopestillflies
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Loqi [indieweb] "Homebrew Website Club SF 2016-07-13" by Kevin Marks http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/homebrew-website-club-sf-2016-07-13
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aaronpk just got a linkedin message from someone saying "congrats on the anniversary" but I was confused about what anniversary it is. Looking around, I can't even find the linkedin story that it created about that annivesary.
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snarfed silos gonna silo
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KevinMarks Linked in suggests congratulations on job anniversaries. Maybe you edited the site a few years ago today.
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aaronpk it's from when the w3c social group started. just strange that I can't see that post that everyone else sees about me.
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[kevinmarks] I just added you on LinkedIn, see if it shows me it.
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aaronpk sometimes i'm surprised at who I am and am not already connected to on LinkedIn
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