#indieweb 2016-08-21

2016-08-21 UTC
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lindner[m] Testing matrix.org gateway to freenode...
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plindner it works!
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rascul so i have 13 invites for keybase.io, not sure why they still require invites but if you want one just give me an email address to send it to
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Loqi [indieweb] "I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/
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@ChrisAldrich I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/ (twitter.com/_/status/767187643411025920)
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ChrisAldrich !tell rascul I'll take you up for keybase; I think I've been in their queue forever...
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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ChrisAldrich quiet in here today isn't it Loqi?
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GWG Too quiet
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ChrisAldrich Does that mean you've been building GWG?
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ChrisAldrich I've spent part of the day going through some old data stores and importing content into my site. Feels good to own a bigger piece of my web.
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ChrisAldrich GWG: I know you've made a bunch of changes in post kinds since the last release, but were you still doing some major refactoring?
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ChrisAldrich I was looking at some of the code to make some small fixes, but it looked more differently than the last time I'd looked at it a few months ago.
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GWG I've been working on a post for the Make WordPress Core blog trying to get interest in improving the pingback display.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: I have a lot of refactoring ideas.
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GWG Will summarize, but if I get too technical, we may want to move to the -dev room
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ChrisAldrich are you sticking with pingback/trackback on that post, or are you injecting some webmention goodness into it? It's a pretty big platform you could use to garner support. :)
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GWG WordPress 4.6 enhanced the optional registration of meta. I wanted to experiment with that in regards to MF2 meta.
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ChrisAldrich I heard you mentioned they put in some useful small changes, but hadn't looked into any of it yet myself.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: I mention Webmentions as a protocol that offers several mprovements over pingbacks, but my advocacy is for display improvements. And I'd be trying to make it so they could be used by both.
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ChrisAldrich You've overseeing maintenance of both pingbacks/trackbacks now right?
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GWG ChrisAldrich: I am the component maintainer. I have a lot of stuff I couldn't get into 4.6 related to it that improves overall infrastructure and several that benefit webmentions as well.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: Re the meta thing... https://make.wordpress.org/core/2016/07/20/additional-register_meta-changes-in-4-6/
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ChrisAldrich oh, thanks
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GWG The problem with me being the maintainer is I open as many as I close
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GWG Such as: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/37754
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GWG Or https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/37007
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GWG I didn't propose this one, but I like it: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/36824
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GWG Webmention Ticket: https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/35435
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ChrisAldrich "Support Receiving Pings for Non Post-Type Permalinks
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ChrisAldrich " is similar essentially to how Bridgy sends generic webmentions to one's homepage when they don't relate to a particular post right?
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AngeloGl1 hey Chris
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GWG Yes. And it was proposed for WordPress 10 years ago
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ChrisAldrich I've actually created a custom page to put those onto my site to give them a place to go (http://boffosocko.com/mentions/). I didn't want to display them on my home page (like kevinmarks.com for example)
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Loqi [Daniel Kahneman] @Mentions
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ChrisAldrich Evening Angelo!
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GWG ChrisAldrich: I had an idea for that I want to file an issue about with that.
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GWG Thank you for reminding me.
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AngeloGl1 75/175 indiewebsites (wiki edits + /irc-people) have a repr hcard and are included in the https://github.com/angelogladding/indieweb-graph dump
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ChrisAldrich I thought of filing an issue, but wasn't sure where to hang it really.
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ChrisAldrich I've just been making the changes manually in mySQL once a week or so.
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AngeloGl1 its auto-commiting every 30 minutes and i've got an idea how to incorporate some of the remaining w/o repr h-cards
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GWG ChrisAldrich: We have an issue in Webmentions for it. I just wanted to look into doing it.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/issues/40
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AngeloGl1 just wanted to grab you while you're in the chat -- your /blog's h-entries e-content includes all the social media buttons and is bloating the crawl data massively
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AngeloGl1 :)
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ChrisAldrich That reminds me, what happened to the webmention stuff you were working on at camp in Portland at the end?
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GWG You mean Webmentions and More?
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ChrisAldrich You had been working on /?webmention=endpoint not defaulting to "Source URL not found." I think...
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KevinMarks The twitter @'s showing on my homepage are a bit much.
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Ryan Barrett" by Ryan Barrett on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31737
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GWG ChrisAldrich: pfefferle is often busy? That is why I have my own experimental plugin to play with these ideas, but still contribute the more mature ideas to the more stable one.
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ChrisAldrich pfefferle just merged a small rewrite I did to hopefully help the webmention form plugin make sense to "outsiders"
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ChrisAldrich Is your experimental version on github?
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GWG I feel guilty pressing him. The experimental solution allows me to test my ideas, even self-dogfood them.
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GWG Of course.
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GWG But it is Use at Your Own Risk
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GWG https://github.com/dshanske/webmentions-and-more/commits/master
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GWG I've gone back to it because I needed a break from other things.
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GWG I really would like to get some things fixed and deploy it to my live site.
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ChrisAldrich Angelo: Thanks, but I'm aware, and have a few "internal" bug fixes to change it. Some of them are dependent on other community-based code that needs to be fixed too.
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GWG Webmentions and More includes Semantic Linkbacks and a Webmention Form
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KevinMarks I could maybe put them elsewhere, though the sidebar on desktop works
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ChrisAldrich KevinMarks, I also noticed you had a section about "friends" that is pushed under those Twitter @'s that disappears because there are so many of them.
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ChrisAldrich KevinMarks, I contemplated leaving mine on the front page, but I analogized them to having a bloated blogroll show up in a sidebar on every page.
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ChrisAldrich GWG, I've been in the midst of setting up a more robust test site for doing such things, but I've been a bit more focused on my personal site the past few weeks.
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GWG I am setting up two test sites on my test server. I want them to be able to webmention each other.
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ChrisAldrich GWG, I love at your own risk!
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ChrisAldrich GWG: that could be useful... I should do that myself.
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ChrisAldrich Though I also often use my Known installation for doing that to some extent.
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ChrisAldrich GWG: how's IWC NY2 shaping up? Any advice for someone planning something in November, besides get started early?
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GWG ChrisAldrich: I'm horrible at promotion.
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ChrisAldrich Did anything useful come out of the push on jeffjarvis? I would have hoped his captive students would find it very interesting.
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GWG aaronpk: There are only 4 registrations on the NYC2 page. Are there any more from Tito?
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ChrisAldrich "Webmentions and More" replaces Webmentions and Semantic Linkbacks? and then adds on top of them?
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GWG ChrisAldrich: Yes. So basically I get to experiment with both. Inside the plugin, the files are still independent.
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ChrisAldrich aaronpk, speaking of camps, you mentioned you were sitting on IWC stickers/t-shirts, can you give me a price for a shirt or two and a bunch of stickers with shipping. It'd be nice to have some to help promote LA when I attend some other related upcoming camps.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: What else would you want in the webmention plugin, out of curiosity?
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ChrisAldrich The filter mentioned in https://github.com/pfefferle/wordpress-webmention/issues/60 being a settings option would be interesting, but it helps to know there's a filter for it to begin with...
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ChrisAldrich I'm hard pressed to think of what else should be in webmention plugin. For most users, out of the box it seems fairly robust.
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ChrisAldrich Most of my issues generally seem to be more theme-based with how webmentions are output, things like facepiling likes/favorites in the manner of your commentwalker concept.
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ChrisAldrich I also just noticed that for some reason I hadn't been following it in github...
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ChrisAldrich I've also recently been getting some mixed webmention comments from brid.gy. Generally I've been fixing them manually, but I need to spend some time sorting out what's actually causing the issue. I suspect it's happening on the WordPress side, and it's only about 1 in every 20 webmentions, so it hasn't been horrible.
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ChrisAldrich There are some interesting thoughts in the webmention plugin issue queue, but many don't apply to my typical set up.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: My goal is to keep iterating till it is robust enough to stand up to anything.
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GWG It would have to be if Core might adopt it someday
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ChrisAldrich I have been working on some stuff to own all of my past Twitter data (and actually display it). Toward that end, having webmentions for custom post types could be useful, and I could see broader need for that in the broader WP community.
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ChrisAldrich GWG: In your mind, where does webmention rank in comparison for pingbacks/trackbacks in terms of that type of robustness?
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GWG The protocol or the current WordPress implementation?
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ChrisAldrich I hadn't thought about it from the bigger perspective, but now that you mention it, both...
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GWG Webmention attempts to answer a lot of the issues with the previous protocols.
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GWG I spent a good percentage of the spring looking at them all.
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ChrisAldrich I've spent some time reading through the webmention parts and picking apart the WP implementation, though I've far from mastered it all. I've not looked at any of the pingback/trackback specs and suspect I may never get there.
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GWG Trackback puts the power of display into the hands of the sender.
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ChrisAldrich Though I do suspect your knowledge of all three will very likely be the tipping point for the broader WP community accepting webmention.
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GWG Pingbacks switched it to having the receiver decide on the display.
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ChrisAldrich You notion of improving pingbacks/trackbacks in a way to make room for webmentions seems like a strong idea though.
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ChrisAldrich How many themes actually take advantage of displaying pingbacks? I don't think many really do in a worthwhile way do they? At least I haven't seen it in my experience.
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GWG Well, that is why I'm trying to focus on the visual.
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aaronpk GWG quite a few Tito registrations actually! I'll send you some info tokorrow
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GWG aaronpk: Thank you. I'd like to know the count.
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ChrisAldrich The way webmentions show up as a default in most themes is the way I've always thought that pingbacks/trackbacks should.
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aaronpk ChrisAldrich I will figure out shirts and stickers tomorrow too, thanks for the reminder
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ChrisAldrich aaronpk: Thanks! DrupalCamp and WordCamp LA are both just around the corner, and being a walking billboard will help a lot.
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GWG I have to have my post peer reviewed before I'm allowed to post it though.
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ChrisAldrich GWG: I'd love to see what you've written before you send it out.
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ChrisAldrich If they'll let you finish it out with a "Looking toward the future" section that allows you to wax poetic about how webmentions might be a way to combine the best of the prior two specs in a more robust way, that would be supremely cool.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: I need to have it reviewed by another component maintainer.
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GWG Before they let me send it
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ChrisAldrich the same component or another component altogether?
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ChrisAldrich Are there other maintainers that are indieweb forward-thinking?
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GWG The WordPress Core team has its procedures.
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GWG ChrisAldrich: Hard to say
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ChrisAldrich I've run into some interesting folks over the past few months who are generally indieweb favorable, but I've yet to see any of them adopt it directly. I'm stalking a few folks for the upcoming LA WordCamp to buttonhole them to see if we can't get some additional help.
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GWG Something went down and my sites are down.
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GWG Darn.
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GWG I guess that Mailgun integration should be moved up
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ChrisAldrich That's sad. Is this your new server?
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GWG No.
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GWG My classic one.
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GWG I'm checking into it
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GWG Looks like there is a problem with my database server.
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GWG But there is a new version of MariaDB, so I might as well upgrade
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ChrisAldrich meh...
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GWG Hopefully I can fix it
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GWG Oh dear. I found the problem.
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ChrisAldrich That doesn't sound good...
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GWG How is my database using 40GB?
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ChrisAldrich running a video service you didn't know about perhaps?
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GWG No. It looks like it hasn't been purging the binary logs.
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ChrisAldrich so what was in there back in '95?
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GWG ?
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GWG Apparently, 28GB of binary log data in 7 days. I'm going to have to have a talk with my brother.
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ChrisAldrich Wow! I can only think that it would take a few years to get that much data over dialup in the 90s.
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GWG My brother shares my database server, and he's been dumping in data lately.
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KevinMarks My 2 rel-friends on that site are a demo from a decade ago. I should do better
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KevinMarks I preserve my tweets in the laziest way possible (download when I remember, put in a directory)
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KevinMarks They're at kevinmarks.com/tweets
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ChrisAldrich Hey, they sound like good friends to have. I only noticed because I was recently thinking of re-engineering my own blogroll/following with XFN, etc.
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ChrisAldrich What are you using for displaying the tweets? It seems like I've seen that interface/set up before somewhere when experimenting, but don't recall where now.
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "you using for displaying the tweets" yet. Would you like to create it?
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KevinMarks I just download their js stuff and put it in a directory
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GWG I just had to upgrade Mediawiki. I feel sympathy for aaronpk
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@kevinmarks @noahread flashback! Sounds like you're ready for #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/767264505914990592)
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gkbrk replaced my shell script that uploads my static website with a makefile, this should make it easier to add build hooks later
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Jessamyn Prince" by Jessamyn Prince on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31743
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Kristina Martin" by Kristina Martin on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31741
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by John Paxton" by John Paxton on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31746
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Nancy Norris" by Nancy Norris on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31744
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Jeanie Aldrich" by Jeanie Aldrich on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31739
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Darian Hickman" by Darian Hickman on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31747
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sknebel ugh, Loqi...
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gkbrk loqi why you mad
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gkbrk here's an example hook that uses the new makefile system https://gist.github.com/gkbrk/eebf4a19ef2a6b77ad7505c078f8aab0
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cmal hello :)
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cmal yet another gray day of racist French people comparing veiled women to Nazis while actual nazis get closer to the power and terrorize the local population, HOW ARE YOU?
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cmal :)
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Loqi [indieweb] "The Loudest Voices" by john on 2016-08-21 http://johnjohnston.info/blog/the-loudest-voices/
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Loqi [indieweb] "Publishers fearing #Facebook dependency: fight for your future, reinvent #RSS. — via @jayneely or get into #IndieWeb" by Rick Mendes on 2016-08-21 https://medium.com/@jayneely/publishers-fearing-facebook-dependency-fight-for-your-future-reinvent-rss-6a1b29a48437#.2bmgz2dkx
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@RikMende Cool ! my #indieweb bookmarks now display target image, sounds like @medium links now display correct #opengraph… https://rmendes.net/2016/08/21/cool-my-indieweb-bookmarks-now-display-target-image-sounds-like (twitter.com/_/status/767345731401314305)
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Loqi [indieweb] "Cool ! my #indieweb bookmarks now display target image, sounds like @medium links now display correct #opengraph image :)" by Rick Mendes on 2016-08-21 https://www.rmendes.net/2016/08/21/cool-my-indieweb-bookmarks-now-display-target-image-sounds-like
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@fourtonfish https://t.co/sNgH6Yx7Jm, a site that lets you add sharing buttons without JavaScript, is now #opensource https://github.com/fourtonfish/SimpleSharingButtons #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/767349896299110400)
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@thisjay > site-deaths - IndieWeb https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/767373356614164481)
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[kevinmarks] http://column.noith.com/hentry-error/ interesting - Google is parsing hentry mf1 still, and giving errors
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Loqi hentry （マークアップ: microformats.org） 構造化データエラー が出たときの対処方法
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KevinMarks_ https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/767377900421062658
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@kevinmarks Research showing why @jason's "verify all the things" twitter idea is in the simple, obvious and wrong category http://qz.com/741933/internet-trolls-are-even-more-hostile-when-theyre-using-their-real-names-a-study-finds/?utm_content=buffercf217&utm_medium=social&utm_source=indieweb&utm_campaign=buffer (twitter.com/_/status/767377900421062658)
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GWG Greetings, campers
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[kevinmarks] This is a very idiomatic comment https://twitter.com/MacYET/status/767378398305984512
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@MacYET Microformats *gähn*…die Sau wird auch alle Jahre durchs Dorf getrieben…und keine Sau kümmert es (twitter.com/_/status/767378398305984512)
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GWG I've just created two WordPress sites to test sending webmentions between.
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@andrewbaker007 Going to add monoculture to my list! https://indieweb.org/monoculture https://twitter.com/donovancmuller/status/765397561624694784 (twitter.com/_/status/767410015305076736)
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GWG I need to decide on my fake people
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GWG What do you call it when you want to pretend to be both sides of an interaction?
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GWG Hello, tantek
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tantek hello GWG!
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GWG Glad to see you
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tantek same!
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GWG I spent the weekend trying to make the argument for better pingback display in WordPress again
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GWG https://core.trac.wordpress.org/ticket/2700
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GWG This fascinates me though
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GWG I read through every pingback and trackbacks ticket in the system
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tantek that's good - be aware of past context
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GWG Shame no one took it on in '06
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tantek the whole "show stuff on the home page" is an interesting use case and likely deserves documentation on it own
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tantek the approach however, "reverse pingbacks" feels like the "I have a hammer, let me see if it will work here" plumbing/tool-first approach
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tantek that is, it's not clear such a user feature would/should have anything to do with pingback (or now webmention)
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tantek this is closer to /notifications display - which is more about UX than about plumbing
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GWG The idea of mentioning your homepage is one that interests me, if your URL represents your identity
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tantek yes, I believe we have those documented already has homepage webmentions
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GWG So I was more interested in getting that support into my implementation.
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tantek yes I think ben_thatmust has implemented it
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GWG I want to go back to working on my Webmentions implementation.
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GWG I got stalled on Syndication again.
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tantek That I understand. I've spent way too many hours tweaking details of my Syndication to Twitter code.
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tantek (and once I support displaying webmentions, I'll have to do more tweaking, e.g. will likely switch from PSCs to always having PSLs on my POSSE tweets)
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tantek GWG, I am behind on #Indieweb, #indieweb-dev archives for the past two weeks.
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tantek What would you say are the 1-5 most important indieweb things that happened in the past two weeks?
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tantek (open question to all)
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GWG It has been a bit slow
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GWG Were you here when IWC LA got a new organizer?
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tantek no I missed that. are there two now?
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GWG Shane dropped out.
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GWG He ceded it to Chrisaldrich.
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GWG Apparently his circumstances have changed and he's going to take a secondary role.
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GWG He's still coming though
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GWG NYC2 is next week.
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GWG Emma came back with room sizes
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GWG Waiting on aaronpk for additional Tito registration data
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aaronpk Quick update from the email summary I got says there are 19 registrations
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GWG And I got access to the Make WordPress Core blog to write a post outlining my goals as component maintainer of Pings and Trackbacks
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GWG If I get interest, I may suspend some things to work on that for 4.7 or 4.8
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GWG KevinMarks plugged NYC2 on TWIG
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GWG I tried to talk WordPress core developer Aaron Jorbin into coming. I missed his talk in Klingon at Wordcamp NYC
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GWG aaronpk, 19 is great
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aaronpk Yes!
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GWG We need to finalize things I suppose.
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aaronpk Tho definitely keep in mind the typical turnout rate. I'd guess 50%
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GWG Still a good number.
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tantek Dan Gillmor confirmed with me via DM too
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GWG I am ordering another webcam.
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tantek I'm wondering if we should put some faces on the event page as key people participating
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tantek like the organizers and Dan at least - open to other nominations as well
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tantek with short bios
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GWG I can picture it.
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tantek I have the impression that events that highlight key speakers/participants tend to draw more people, and get people who got tickets to show up more
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GWG GWG is a tremendous pain in the rear...but in a good way.
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tantek GWG is a diligent and thorough WordPress developer who is optimistic about the future of the independent web, and interoperating across platforms.
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GWG I am preparing to demo Webmentions using two test WordPress sites that I launched on subdomains
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GWG I am trying to figure out what to make the h-cards.
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tantek GWG, you could pick two (in)famous historical letter correspondents
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tantek (two famous people that wrote each other letters many years ago, where the back/forth was documented)
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GWG Interesting idea.
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tantek Great post by Chrisaldrich http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/10/the-indieweb-frees-me-from-awaiting-moderation/ - I have found this frustrating as well
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Loqi [Chris Aldrich] The Indieweb Frees Me From “Awaiting Moderation” http://1.gravatar.com/avatar/d5fb4e498fe609cc29b04e5b7ad688c4?s=42&d=mm&r=pg
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tantek what is moderation?
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Loqi Moderation is the process of holding comments for review by a human https://indieweb.org/moderation
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GWG My students at work didn't appreciate me having them practice making bookings with the names of signers of the Declaration of Independence
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GWG Apparently Button Gwinnett lacks a following
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tantek Lots of people are interested in IWC DC - I wonder what we need to do to make it happen? https://indieweb.org/2016/DC#Interested
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GWG I would come. I have a place to stay down there.
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tantek gregorlove++ for growing HWC Bellingham! https://indieweb.org/events/2016-08-10-homebrew-website-club#Bellingham
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Loqi gregorlove has 77 karma (65 in this channel)
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[kevinmarks] Gwg at Google we used Elizabeth and Darcy from pride and Prejudice
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[kevinmarks] She has liz@gmail.com iirc
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tantek kevinmarks++
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Loqi kevinmarks has 244 karma (191 in this channel)
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[kevinmarks] (illegal less than 6 chars address - only Paul has an active one)
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[kevinmarks] Lovelace and Babbage would be good too. Sydney Padua has lots of their correspondence in her comic
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GWG Maybe someone funnier.
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[kevinmarks] Have you not seen the comic.
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[kevinmarks] http://sydneypadua.com/2dgoggles/comics/
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GWG Okay. There we are.
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aaronpk oh awesome, I found a more recent backup of my first website so I can restore more of the pages now!
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@DaveColvin A WIKI of sites that died and took your data with them... https://indieweb.org/site-deaths (twitter.com/_/status/767478815366844417)
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lindner[m] !nick irc.freenode.net plindner to @appservice-irc:matrix.org.
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tantek what does that mean?
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lindner[m] user error — matrix.org has some odd ways of assigning nicks; looks like that won’t do it..
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aaronpk GWG: I can mail you an extra camera and jabra mic to borrow for the weekend
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GWG aaronpk: I ordered an extra webcam. Which gives me 3. Two C615s and 1 C920. And three boundary microphones.
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aaronpk okay
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GWG And I have three old laptops.
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GWG That should do the trick.
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GWG I'm trying to figure out what to broadcast on.
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GWG Hangouts on Air is going away
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aaronpk wait what!
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GWG Oh, that is where they stuck it...
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GWG https://support.google.com/youtube/answer/7083786
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aaronpk oh youtube live is replacing it? that's fine
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GWG The issue I never figured out is how to do 3 streams at once.
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GWG I think we would need multiple accounts.
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aaronpk hm i think you can do it by setting up multiple events
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GWG But I don't think you can do it all at once.
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GWG If not, maybe the remote participants will host.
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GWG Or someone else will log into their account and stream it.
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Karen Ely" by Karen Ely on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31751
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on I now proudly own all of the data from my Tumbr posts on my own domain. #Indieweb #ownyourdata #PESOS by Lynne Doran" by Lynne Doran on 2016-08-21 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/20/i-now-proudly-own-all-of-the-data-from-my-tumbr-posts-on-my-own-domain-indieweb-ownyourdata-pesos/#comment-31752
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miklb GWG pretty cool that you got Aaron Jorbin to attend.
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GWG miklb: Read more closely. I tried to get him.
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aaronpk oh i thought he said he was going
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miklb oh, I thought I saw a tweet from him that he was attending
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GWG He did?
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aaronpk https://daily.jorb.in/2016/08/19/im-attending-indiewebcamp-nyc/
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GWG He wasn't sure when I asked him, but said he would see.
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Loqi [jorbin] I’m attending IndieWebCamp NYC