#indieweb 2016-09-03

2016-09-03 UTC
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miklb checks todo list for personal site for something to work on
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Zegnat Good morning indieweb
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cmal morning :)
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@digilotta Die Idee, Indieweb mit WordPress umzusetzen-eigene Inhalte auf dem eigenen Server vorhalten & selbstbestimmt verteilen-ist ja schön.. #wcfra (twitter.com/_/status/772032599950852096)
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@digilotta Das Konzept von IndieAuth https://indieweb.org/indieauth.com wird nicht so recht klar ... #wcfra (twitter.com/_/status/772036881349505024)
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@photostroller Und noch websites zum Indiewebthema https://indieauth.com und auch das Sascha Lobo Plugin fällt mir noch ein! https://twitter.com/photostroller/status/772037205430824961/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/772037205430824961)
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@VolkerZ @pfefferle über Nutzung v Wordpress als Hüter der eigenen social media Daten #IndieWeb #IndieWordPress @WordCampFRA https://twitter.com/VolkerZ/status/772039555297972228/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/772039555297972228)
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@pfefferle @digilotta UX ist aber definitiv ein Thema wird aber auch UX … http://indieweb.org/ux und feedback ist immer gern gesehen :) (twitter.com/_/status/772042710924554240)
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@CallaTux In Matthias Pfefferles ( @pfefferle ) Vortrag (IndieWordPress) ging es rund um das spannende Thema Indieweb. #WCFRA https://twitter.com/CallaTux/status/772046072524988416/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/772046072524988416)
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@pfefferle @jkphl bei welchem Anbieter hast du denn die IndieWeb Aufkleber gemacht? (twitter.com/_/status/772060394412208129)
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@pfefferle @jkphl haste den IndieWebCamp besuch verlängert? (twitter.com/_/status/772065032511291392)
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ben_thatmustbeme hmmm, can a post ever realistically be a like and a reply?
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ben_thatmustbeme i suppose it could be actually, if its the same post
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ben_thatmustbeme n/m
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@jkphl @pfefferle Ja, nach vorne! ;) Nein, im Ernst, ab Montag ist hier @reasonsto, und 2 Wochen später komme ich wieder zum @indiewebcamp. \o/ (twitter.com/_/status/772069564460965888)
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bear For those running on VPS servers, you will probably get to test your reboot recovery plans soon -- https://xenbits.xen.org/xsa/ <-- 4 Security advisories to be released next week
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sknebel Xen really hit it badly the last few years...
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Loqi [indieweb] "Comment on My Indieweb swag arrived! by scottharvey__" by scottharvey__ on 2016-09-02 http://boffosocko.com/2016/08/25/my-indieweb-swag-arrived/#comment-31978
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GWG I need to brush up on my German
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Zegnat GWG: only if you can tell pfefferle what printer did the IWC stickers, else you aren’t missing much
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GWG I cannot
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Zegnat Then you do not need your german just yet ;)
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GWG I would like to talk to him though
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GWG He hasn't been around much lately
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@aaronpk @pfefferle @jkphl die IndieWebCamp Aufkleber kommen aus Stickermule! Du kannst sie hier finden: https://indieweb.org/swag (twitter.com/_/status/772084712701501441)
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aaronpk how was that?
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Zegnat aaronpk: sounds like how I would write it, which means its a cointoss wether it is correct german or not, but is wholly understandable ;)
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aaronpk haha
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Loqi aaronpk: lol
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Zegnat I was hanging out at a punker club in Düsseldorf last weekend, turns out you will be forced to speak German in that situation. What I was saying did not always sound correct, but apparently everyone knew what I was saying anyway.
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Zegnat Time to see if I can get WeeChat & Glowing Bear running at my hosting
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aaronpk yeah!
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Zegnat Installing WeeChat should be easy enough, now that linuxbrew is a thing. But after that I will be clueless. Haha
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bear linuxbrew?
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Zegnat http://linuxbrew.sh
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aaronpk Zegnat: the instructions on https://www.glowing-bear.org were pretty straightforward. just make sure that port is open in your firewall
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Zegnat aaronpk: I don’t usually manage software on the server, one of the reasons I stick to shared hosting. So just setting up the WeeChat on a remote machine over SSH is going to be a minor accomplishment.
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Zegnat I found some good guides for when I set up ZNC before, but WeeChat relays seem to get less bloggers writing
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GWG I have a weechat/Glowing Bear relay
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Zegnat If everyone has a start-to-finish guide for going from nothing to weechat/Glowing Bear setup, much obliged.
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Zegnat s/everyone/anyone
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Zegnat Well, never mind, weechat install failed so that is me done :p
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sknebel aaronpk: the "kommen aus" reveals the english speaker (only works as a translation of "come from" when it's about a place, e.g. "come from Germany", "sind von" would be a correct version here), but the meaning is obvious, since it's unlikely that Stickermule is a town somewhere ;)
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aaronpk oh thanks :)
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@pfefferle hier ist übrigens der link zu meinen folien: https://github.com/pfefferle/wcfra-2016-talk #indieweb #wcfra (twitter.com/_/status/772101373148225537)
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GWG I was looking at pfefferle's presentation with Google translate on... it translated tantek as Tantekin Steel.
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KartikPrabhu what is https?
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Loqi HTTPS is an abbreviation for Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure, a protocol for secure communication, supported by web servers (like Apache & nginx) and browsers https://indieweb.org/HTTPS
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KartikPrabhu random question: If every website becomes https how will one access hotel/airport wifi which redirect to some login screen and fail to do so on https?
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KartikPrabhu currently I have been using tantek's site for this as it is http
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Loqi [indieweb] "1500 Word MTU has a POSSE: Week 2 Update" by Paul Lindner on 2016-09-01 http://www.1500wordmtu.com/2016/1500-word-mtu-has-a-posse-week-2-update
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@kevinmarks @BasilLeaf it's the #indieweb way. (twitter.com/_/status/772203484095520768)
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bear KartikPrabhu - those use what is called a Captive Portal and depend on DNS redirection as one of the ways they send you to a local login page. Browsers have various ways of detecting this, the Firefox bug tracking it has been active since 2010 -- https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=562917
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bear the browser vendors are all trying to work thru this for the very reason you suggested, TLS doesn't work with this at all and "teaching" users to allow a Captive Portal that is HTTP only is training them to get owned by fake wifi hotspots
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