#indieweb 2016-09-21

2016-09-21 UTC
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GWG Chrisaldrich, I tried sending you an email.
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GWG About IWC LA
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calumryan Arrived in San Francisco and looking forward to HWC tomorrow! Thinking bars or possibly dinner if anyone’s around who’d like to come along after HWC?
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Loqi [indieweb] "Posting this on MY site and syndicating it to Twitter, Facebook, and LinkedIn. Hoorah #indieweb" by Leo Laporte on 2015-05-20 http://www.leoville.com/2015/05/20/posting-this-on-my-site-and-syndicating-it-to-twitter
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Loqi [indieweb] "Posting with Quill" by Leo Laporte on 2015-05-14 http://www.leoville.com/2015/05/14/posting-with-quill
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Loqi [indieweb] "New site, new home" by Leo Laporte on 2015-03-07 http://www.leoville.com/2015/03/07/new-site-new-home
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GWG How did that pop up?
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KevinMarks Superfeedr?
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GWG I meant due age
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Zegnat Good morning IndieWeb!
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Loqi [indieweb] "#TPAC2016 @timberners_lee: many redecentralizing approaches: blockchain, distributed hashtables, IPFS, IndieWeb, SOLID" on 2016-09-21 http://tantek.com/2016/265/t2/tpac2016-many-approaches
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@t #TPAC2016 @timberners_lee: many redecentralizing approaches: blockchain, distributed hashtables, IPFS, IndieWeb, SOLID (ttk.me t4jR2) (twitter.com/_/status/778503775774400513)
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Loqi [indieweb] "#TPAC2016 @timberners_lee IndieWeb encourages having a website, domain name, blog, linking to each other. We’re going to use the domain name system, HTTP. We’ll use the web, provide tools, make it easy to get certificates." on 2016-09-21 http://tantek.com/2016/265/t3/tpac2016-indieweb-encourages-website
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@t #TPAC2016 @timberners_lee IndieWeb encourages having a website, domain name, blog, linking to each other. ... http://tantek.com/2016/265/t3 (twitter.com/_/status/778506921720418304)
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petermolnar morning
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aaronpk morning
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Loqi guten morgen
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KevinMarks I thought tantek was using noterlive for a minute there
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tantek KevinMarks lol nope still just Falcon and somehow typing fast enough
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Ruxton tantek: fyi just noticed the repost/reply images on your notes are broken
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Ruxton looking at the TPAC2016 post thats above
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Loqi [indieweb] "Distributed verification of rhiaro.co.uk #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-21 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/distributed-verification-of-rhiarocouk-indieweb
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Loqi [indieweb] "#TPAC2016 11:00 Room 5A: Decentralized & Social Web @SocialWebWG demos of IndieWeb SOLID federated redecentralization!" on 2016-09-21 http://tantek.com/2016/265/t4/tpac2016-decentralized-social-web
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@t #TPAC2016 11:00 Room 5A: Decentralized & Social Web @SocialWebWG demos of IndieWeb SOLID federated redecentralization! (ttk.me t4jR4) (twitter.com/_/status/778523881854283776)
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Loqi [indieweb] "verifying rhiaro.co.uk#me fails #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-21 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/verifying-rhiarocoukme-fails-indieweb
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KevinMarks Do demo the verify-me browser extension
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Zegnat If nobody else does, I will demo verify-me at IWC Brighton, KevinMarks :)
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rhiaro KevinMarks: verifying?
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KevinMarks1 it looks uprel-me links and sees if they link back, and shows badges
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KevinMarks1 but the #me confuses it if that is in the address bar before the code fires
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KevinMarks1 'cos it then looks for twitter and github to have a #me on
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KevinMarks1 which is likely too strict
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Loqi [indieweb] "github gets badged as verified for rhiaro #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-21 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/github-gets-badged-as-verified-for-rhiaro-indieweb
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Zegnat Ah, hmm. I guess it is safe to ignore fragments? Identity goes by page rather than per URI, right?
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KevinMarks1 do not touch the range 14 wire
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KevinMarks1 OK, updated to do the https thang by default and to strip fragment from local page
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KevinMarks1 have to wait for the chrome store to propagate
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@DomainersMag #TPAC2016 @timberners_lee IndieWeb encourages having a website, domain name, blog, linking ... - https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http%3A%2F%2Ftantek.com%2F2016%2F265%2Ft3%2Ftpac2016-indieweb-encourages-website&ct=ga&cd=CAIyGjBkMGM2ZTZjMzVmNTRkYTk6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNFa44OYX8lpex4q2qKUF7ythDIRfw (twitter.com/_/status/778541810104885248)
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KevinMarks1 install https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/nnefkajddpfponfnmaflddipljfdlcjb
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Loqi [indieweb] "From WordPress to Apple News, Instant Articles, and AMP" by Chris Coyier on 2016-09-19 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FairyVisions/~3/B5FcVS8U-cU/
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KevinMarks1 go to my site, rhiaro's site, tantek's site
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KevinMarks1 see checkmarks
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KevinMarks1 (need to use https url for https://rhiaro.co.uk/#me
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cweiske "Users who comment on a social network have not explicitly consented to have their content syndicated elsewhere. Therefore, I don't think it's right to do so." https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/known-dev/orekBTTJMfg
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GWG Interesting thought.
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KevinMarks Yes they have. It's in the social networks tos
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GWG KevinMarks, true but only by the company in question, not by a third party.
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Zegnat To be fair "with a true indieweb comment, where everyone [...] is consenting to have their comment show up elsewhere" is not true either. The fact that I make my page parsable with microformats does not mean I consent to you copying what I have written.
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KevinMarks No, they delegate it or they couldn't offer APIs
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cweiske time to add rel=license support
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Zegnat Some indieweb users, including tantek, have disclaimers on their Facebook profiles
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GWG I am not going there
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Zegnat see http://indieweb.org/disclosure#Backfeed_Examples
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tantek !tell kevinmarks we barely had time to get through demos that showed specs in the working group!
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cweiske Another crash happened while handling crash!
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[kevinmarks] Ah OK. It's a good intro to indieauth too though.
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Loqi [kevinmarks]: tantek left you a message 35 minutes ago: we barely had time to get through demos that showed specs in the working group!
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tantek yes - would be good for WG
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[kevinmarks] I need to write it up. I put that off because the backend was being a bit fussy, but I have coded round that mostly. Need to check the case stuff again
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@kevinmarks Like like @techreview is right about botd https://twitter.com/techreview/status/778466441087463424 #indieweb https://twitter.com/kevinmarks/status/778612913569271809/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/778612913569271809)
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jcgregorio[m] Oh yeah, that reminds me, I need to block the IP addresses of anything that requests any URL starting with "/wp-"
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snarfed hey jcgregorio! good to see you here
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jcgregorio[m] thanks snarfed!
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tantek jcgregorio[m]: whoa what is requesting /wp-* ? is this something we can document why etc. for /WordPress users?
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jcgregorio[m] just looking through the logs on my blog I'm seeing hits on /wp-*, presumably bots probing for WP security holes
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jcgregorio[m] my blog isn't powered by WP, so not a concern, but I think I should block on principle :-)
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aaronpk Hah interesting point
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snarfed jcgregorio: you'll see a constant revolving door of IPs. probably more trouble than it's worth to constantly update that blacklist
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snarfed maybe either just blacklist the URLs, or let them 404 and ignore them
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snarfed (this kind of indiscriminate script kiddie probing has happened for decades, web wide :P)
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jcgregorio[m] yeah, they're probably all coming from botnets
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@sdepolo Own your content, build your own #website. Join #indieWeb Homebrew Website Club tonight in #SanFrancisco https://www.facebook.com/events/160416234402204/ plz Retweet (twitter.com/_/status/778624428603080704)
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bear over time you will end up blocking every IP from GCE and/or AWS ;)
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bear I put them into a special location in my nginx that has logging disabled
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@sl007 @lajava77 @webkit Awesome. IndieWeb needs registerProtocolHandler support in Safari, working in @googlechrome. Can this become real? (twitter.com/_/status/778625991568654336)
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@mholzschlag @indiewebcamp - Hey all, are you moving forward with the LA event in November? Please get in touch for potential sponsorship - thank you! :) (twitter.com/_/status/778635502836604928)
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@mholzschlag @jkphl What did I do? LOL - is this because IndieWeb? :) (twitter.com/_/status/778635645296140290)
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@kevinmarks @BitcoinBelle @firasd see https://t.co/yHmJNfvorW, http://known.kevinmarks.com - there's lots of help at http://indieweb.org too (twitter.com/_/status/778638854743924736)
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@jkphl @mholzschlag Well, they should definitely keep an eye on the many IWCs around the world. I'll organize one in 2017: http://indieweb.org/2017/Nuremberg (twitter.com/_/status/778640304471732224)
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@jkphl @mholzschlag Regarding LA you could maybe ping @ChrisAldrich?! He should be organizing an IWC there on Nov 4th: http://indieweb.org/2016/LA (twitter.com/_/status/778641345795743744)
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@jkphl @mholzschlag IndieWebCamps and Hackdays, and of course there will be another attempt for https://web.material.is/2016/ next year! :) (twitter.com/_/status/778643578914471937)
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jcgregorio[m] The Verify Me extension is great! Helped me find links I broke when I moved from HTTP -> HTTPS https://bitworking.org/
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snarfed KevinMarks++
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Loqi kevinmarks has 251 karma (197 in this channel)
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KevinMarks Oh good - I had the same experience. Several of my links were out of date, or to not quite the right one
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@ChrisAldrich .@Timehop: What did you do 1 year ago today? Also a daily reminder of how much data you don't own. https://timehop.com #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/778653496266493952)
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Loqi [indieweb] ".@Timehop: What did you do 1 year ago today? Also a daily reminder of how much data you don't own. https://timehop.com #indieweb" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-09-21 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/timehop-what-did-you-do-1-year-ago-today-also
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snarfed updated granary and bridgy to handle new extended tweets and char counting. https://github.com/snarfed/granary/issues/89#ref-commit-1db855b
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snarfed (just for backfeed, not yet publish)
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snarfed also, interesting, extended tweets in the twitter API fully support hiding both trailing URLs (media, etc) *and* reply-to @-mentions. example in https://github.com/kylewm/brevity/issues/4#issuecomment-248738133
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snarfed so it's just the UIs that don't yet hide reply-to @-mentions
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jonnybarnes what tweets does Loqi post here?
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snarfed jonnybarnes: anything containing indieweb[camp], webmention, micropub, etc in the text
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jonnybarnes hmmm
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jonnybarnes I’ve just made a tweet with #webmention and it hasn’t appeared here
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snarfed jonnybarnes: looks like it went to #indieweb-dev
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jonnybarnes ahhh
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aaronpk yeah, i moved all the spec-related tweets to -dev when we made the new channel
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[benatwork] Clarification: is HWC SF at 6 or 6:30 today?
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[kevinmarks] 6.30 as usual, 6 is the room booking
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GWG Evening
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[benatwork] kevinmarks ah, ok - asking because the time on the facebook event changed
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tantek via @rhiaro https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/aug/28/tim-berners-lee-open-web-mark-zuckerberg-facebook
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@sdepolo .@SauceyApp That was one of the best app and delivery experiences I've ever had! @GoDaddy #indieweb guests tonight… https://twitter.com/i/web/status/778735715358167042 (twitter.com/_/status/778735715358167042)
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tantek nice timing
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tantek hmm - makes me think I need to go to a HWC at GoDaddy before hosting another one at MozSF, I think I may have some things to learn!
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[benatwork] Looking forward to attending today. Mozilla is always delightful, but Stacey is a great host too :slightly_smiling_face:
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Kongaloosh does anyone use activity streams
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Kongaloosh I'm kind of digging them