#indieweb 2016-09-29

2016-09-29 UTC
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snarfed thanks for the report KartikPrabhu!
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snarfed looks like that's expected for these posts since they were found by searching for links to your domain
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snarfed we still usually figure out that they should be backfed as reposts in those cases, but not always. i'll investigate
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KartikPrabhu cool
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Loqi [indieweb] "What if we could verify people on the web, but in a distributed way? I made a browser extension http://www.kevinmarks.com/distributed-verify.html #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-23 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/what-if-we-could-verify-people-on-the-web-but
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Loqi [indieweb] "github gets badged as verified for rhiaro #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-21 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/github-gets-badged-as-verified-for-rhiaro-indieweb
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Loqi [indieweb] "Notes from last night's Homebrew Website Club: http://www.kevinmarks.com/hwc2016-09-21.html #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-22 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/notes-from-last-nights-homebrew-website-club-hwc2016-09-21html-indieweb
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Loqi [indieweb] "Distributed verification of rhiaro.co.uk #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-21 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/distributed-verification-of-rhiarocouk-indieweb
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Loqi [indieweb] "verifying rhiaro.co.uk#me fails #indieweb" by Kevin Marks on 2016-09-21 http://known.kevinmarks.com/2016/verifying-rhiarocoukme-fails-indieweb
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KevinMarks Lagz
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@jkphl .@rodneyrehm Oh, and a very good point by @tobiastom that I forgot to mention but really appreciate: It's on your own blog! #indieweb FTW :) (twitter.com/_/status/781389054831099904)
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Loqi [indieweb] "From WordPress to Apple News, Instant Articles, and AMP" by Chris Coyier on 2016-09-19 http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/FairyVisions/~3/B5FcVS8U-cU/
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GWG Morning
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Loqi rise and shine!
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sknebel aaronpk: in the private-webmention spec, can the token ever have a token_type != 'bearer'?
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Loqi [indieweb] "Some more late incremential CSS tweaking on my site :) getting closer to a clean card-like style #indieweb" by Rick Mendes on 2016-09-28 https://rmendes.net/2016/09/28/some-more-late-incremential-css-tweaking-on-my-site-getting
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aaronpk sknebel: I wanted to restrict it to bearer tokens
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pfefferle 'morning
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miklb mornin'
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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Loqi tantek: Zegnat left you a message 1 day, 18 hours ago: Taking a look at /Falcon#Storage_format you do not link any examples (or even show a full post as example HTML) but the URL is guessable (you document YYYY/B.html). However, you also suggest falconpost.php adds things like the syndication links there and do not mention the second storage file at all. Missing documentation?
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tantek interesting, I'll have to double check the documentation
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@t Finished part of my #IndieWebCamp Brighton hack. Only visible effect for now: newer published dates with seconds. (ttk.me t4jZ1) (twitter.com/_/status/781511118808162309)
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Zegnat Hello IndieWeb!
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@bbox1office t: Finished part of my #IndieWebCamp Brighton hack. Only visible effect for now: newer published dates with seconds. (ttk.me t4jZ1) (twitter.com/_/status/781512169619910656)
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miklb any new and exciting developments? I've been buried in work and life and lost track of IW
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aaronpk miklb: gRegorLove and I are attempting to prototype private webmentions which we specced out over the weekend in Brighton
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miklb sweet
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miklb I want to try to start HWC here next month. Probably will be just me in a coffee shop, but I do have a friend with a blog I might try to help setup OwnYourGram. She's doing self PESOS and wants to automate it
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miklb figure if I start now, after holidays might gain some traction.
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sknebel working on private webmentions as well, should have a working implementation tommorrow evening (UTC)
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aaronpk whoa! awesome
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aaronpk tries to catch up
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Zegnat I am looking to get HTTPS for my personal site, so I can start receiving private webmentions there
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sknebel Zegnat: you could move your endpoint to https?
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sknebel as a firststep
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sknebel (on your second domain)
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Zegnat sknebel, while that would work it is faking security. Because a MITM could simply rewrite my endpoint URL that I am providing over HTTP
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sknebel of course
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Zegnat But I *think* I am the only one on vanderven.se not using a subdomain. So I might just point @ and www DNS to Uberspace where I can get LetsEncrypt. Keep the email and the other subdomains at the hosting they are currently at
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@sl007 @lyssaslounge Danke f. Oetti. – Verzweifelt: Indiewebcamp in Berlin 10.11. droht auszufallen, kein Raum. Wie sieht es b. @MozillaBerlin aus? (twitter.com/_/status/781524048715059200)
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aaronpk I'd say it's more important that the webmention endpoint itself is HTTPS and pointing to an HTTPS endpoint from an http domain is okay as a first step
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aaronpk server-to-server MITM is much more rare than MITM on your local computer
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Zegnat If I cannot get vanderven.se switched, that is what I will do, aaronpk. But I still feel iffy about adding protection *after* the discovery phase
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sgreger pfefferle: trying to get webmentions to work with my bookmarks during IWC Brighton i ran into the issue that the wordpress plugin does not seem to send mentions for custom post types. have you encountered such issue before?
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KartikPrabhu sgreger: you can also ask GWG about Wordpress plugins, he uses them too
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sgreger kartikprabhu: thank you. just crawling through the code to see if i am missing something...
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sgreger (i have a hunch though that this is not the plugin but wordpress itself that doesn't fire the trackback/ping process)
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KevinMarks_ Does it think they are pages?
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GWG sgreger: It is fixed in the development version.
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GWG Someone reported it. It is a WordPress issue. All does not mean all
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sgreger gwg: thx, glad to hear that. i could not find anything in the plugin code that would explain why it wouldn't work for custom post types
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GWG The update comment filter pfefferle and I asked for in Core just got merged.
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sgreger gwg: so you are referring to the dev version of WP? could you point me to the issue report, so i can hack it into mine for now?
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GWG sgreger: Neither could I initially when singpolyma reported it.
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GWG sgreger, dev version of the webmention plugin.
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GWG The one on Github.
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sgreger i see. will get it from there, then. great!
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GWG Basically, all does not mean all
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sgreger ah, now i saw the thread under closed issues on github :)
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sgreger gwg: now i indeed receive the bridgy webmention on one of my custom posts, but something isn't quite right, yet. it shows up under comments in admin, but is not attached to the post ID
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sgreger disregard my last line, i believe there's something wrong with my own code now
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gRegorLove Yikes. Long but informative read on WoSign / StartCom certs: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/781238604043399168
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@SwiftOnSecurity Holy crap, this Mozilla document on WoSign/Startcom corruption is utterly damning. They need to be derezzed forever. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1C6BlmbeQfn4a9zydVi2UvjBGv6szuSB4sMYUcVrR8vQ/preview (twitter.com/_/status/781238604043399168)
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gRegorLove What is WoSign?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "WoSign" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove What is StartCom?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "StartCom" yet. Would you like to create it?
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gRegorLove What is StartSSL?
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Loqi StartSSL is a service that provides introductory SSL certificates for no cost, see startssl.com https://indieweb.org/StartSSL
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gRegorLove (Why that's a Google Doc ... I don't know)
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bear it's a google doc because some of the contributors to it are not moz folk and quite a few of them wanted to remain anonymous
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bear (anonymous to the public, not to moz-sec team)
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gRegorLove Ah
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tantek google doc = opposite of anonymous
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tantek (whereas I think etherpad solves that better
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tantek )
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gRegorLove Hi tantek.
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bear *shrug* not sure why gdoc was used over some other can-also-contribute-via-spoofable-internet
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bear and.... this is logged so I need to stop talking about things that I know only via friends who helped with that doc
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bear ugh
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gRegorLove :)
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gRegorLove s/helped/may or may not have helped/
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bear :)
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gRegorLove tantek: I replicated out a few more of the HWC event pages. Let me know if they look good. Included the alphabetizing of the cities, commented out the ones that are monthly according to /HWC
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Loqi [indienews] New post: "Takeaways from IndieWebCamp Brighton 2016" http://sebastiangreger.net/2016/09/takeaways-indiewebcamp-brighton-2016/
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aaronpk I just set up a Wallabag instance and I am now copying all my bookmarks to it!
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@sebastiangreger Takeaways from IndieWebCamp Brighton 2016: #IndieWeb is not just coding; thinking beyond the stream; indiebookmarks http://sebastiangreger.net/2016/09/takeaways-indiewebcamp-brighton-2016/ (twitter.com/_/status/781573116191444992)
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tantek gRegorLove++ thanks for the HWC event page replication! Will take a look!
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tantek also that's a very good blog post http://sebastiangreger.net/2016/09/takeaways-indiewebcamp-brighton-2016/
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Loqi [Sebastian Greger] Takeaways from IndieWebCamp Brighton 2016
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tantek "I expected a lot of food for thought and, if anything, was overwhelmed by just how much there is going on."
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tantek adactio++ for organizing and hosting an awesome *5th* IndieWebCamp Brighton
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sgreger adactio++ i could not agree more :)
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tantek sgreger++ really appreciated your in depth post with personal observations
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sgreger tantek: thanks. took me a few days to sort all the impressions...
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tantek took me a few days to finish implementing even the minimal viable functionality of the first thing I wanted to build on hack day ;)
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sgreger hah, yes. my backlog is also longer than before brighton
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sgreger but i believe that is a good sign
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tantek same. so many photos and notes.
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@cairbreUK via .@alexscroxton .@maidsafe #safenetwork aims to get rid of #backup "bane of a CIO's life" http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450304075/MaidSafe-secure-internet-concept-enters-testing-phase #internet #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/781584334767558656)
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@sugruecomms via .@alexscroxton .@maidsafe #safenetwork aims to get rid of #backup "bane of a CIO's life" http://www.computerweekly.com/news/450304075/MaidSafe-secure-internet-concept-enters-testing-phase #internet #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/781584342841565184)
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sgreger gwg: still searching for the source of the problem, but i had to roll back to the last stable webmention plugin, as the dev version did not connect the webmentions with the articles
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GWG I think I know why.
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sgreger gwg: http://temp.sebastiangreger.net/webmention-issue.png
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GWG I can tell you how to hack just the fix into the stable
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sgreger this was primarily a heads-up for you. i can easily still live a while without the custom posts support, if it will show up in the new version anyways
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GWG I think I saw what might cause problems. Pfefferle and I haven't been around at the same time to discuss.
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