#indieweb 2016-10-12

2016-10-12 UTC
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@kwlug ♻ George Curelet-Balan @curelet: WatCamp calendar, IndieWeb intro, Linux Guile-lkr. #KWlug Sept 2016 h … http://sn.jonkman.ca/notice/1090898 (twitter.com/_/status/786079213040332800)
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snarfed hey aaronpk, for the multiple photo test on micropub.rocks, do you already have the city-at-night.jpg you want to use?
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snarfed i was about to send a PR to add it, but i'll refrain if you already have it
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bear I love how the test photo he uses is *huge*
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@sl007 @jkphl fyi - hab' noch VIPs über #indiewebcamp #BER informiert - Karl Groves landet Sonntag morgen, findet's cool. Ggf. schafft er es ja. (twitter.com/_/status/786107391611904000)
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@sl007 Bei indiewebcamps sind immer soooooooooo viele @ubernauten - https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin ?in 3.5 Wochen [share the word] (twitter.com/_/status/786118037556506624)
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@sl007 https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin ??- register | share ;) It's free ! @cjk101010 @skddc @egoexpress @lukasrosenstock @mrflix @sanduhrs @trodrigues (twitter.com/_/status/786135389941538816)
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@diplix ich glaub da geh ix hin, is ja direkt umme ecke: https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/786140514470862848)
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Loqi [indieweb] "ich glaub da geh ix hin, is ja direkt umme ecke: https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin #indieweb " by ix@wirres.net (felix schwenzel) on 2016-10-12 http://wirres.net/article/articleview/10287/1/0/
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@jkantel Save the Date: IndieWebCamp Berlin 2016 - http://blog.schockwellenreiter.de/2016/10/2016101201.html via @_feedspot (twitter.com/_/status/786142081479692288)
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@kaikubasta Hm, dort könnte man ja mal vorbeischauen. https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin (@gglnx) (twitter.com/_/status/786145488089251840)
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sss1 /server irc.zurna.net
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aaronpk snarfed: go ahead and add one! I had one from unsplash but was wanting to replace it with one of my own photos but hadn't found one yet!
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sebilasse aaronpk: regarding IWC BER - two important questions : 1. How do you video-stream usually / LA and 2. How can we get Stickers ;)
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cweiske sebilasse, aaronpk had a blog post about that very recently
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cweiske https://aaronparecki.com/2016/10/08/15/multi-camera-portable-live-video
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Loqi [Aaron Parecki] Multi-Camera Portable Live Video Rig
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aaronpk what is remote participation?
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Loqi remote participation refers to good practices for enabling people to take part in IndieWebCamp events at a different location and collaboration across locations https://indieweb.org/remote_participation
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aaronpk there are some notes there on a smaller setup
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aaronpk i think jkphl might have a stash of stickers too? Not sure how many are left. I can mail some now if not.
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sebilasse cweiske: About the stickers ;) Well, I see - looks like an expensive setup. In Berlin 2 rooms seem to have "video conferencing facilities" - have to check back with Mozilla. And then IWC straight to YouTube?
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aaronpk Oh yeah Mozilla has some pretty good equipment. You might be able to stream using that if they let you. It's called Vidyo. I don't think it can stream to YouTube but it provides its own web interface
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@sl007 @jkphl U got some stickers left for #indiewebcamp ? https://twitter.com/sl007/status/786193012950827008/photo/1 (twitter.com/_/status/786193012950827008)
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sebilasse aaronpk: Oh Cool. I'll call them now.
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sebilasse aaronpk: Hm. "Michael" seems to be the Moz-man again. So still awaiting a mail reply. My plan was to "set up a unified Live-Event" on youtube. This is the opposite of "stream now" (don't know exact EN names). We can then stream LA and Berlin "simultanous" (more or less, -8 h on SAT, -9 h on SUN) so more "alternating" ...
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aaronpk oms daylight savings time overlaps IWC LA
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aaronpk sure, I can add you to the indiewebcamp youtube channel so you can create an event on it
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snarfed cweiske: just fyi i've done a lot of work on wordpress-micropub recently, it matches the current spec pretty closely now
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snarfed feel free to try it at head!
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cweiske I was interested in it when I wrote shpub
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cweiske which I needed because I wanted to pesos from instagram
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cweiske which I needed because friends were on a trip and I wanted to see their photos in my feed reader
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Loqi [indieweb] "IndieWebCamp is coming to Berlin, Nov. 5-6: https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin #indieweb #redecentralize" by Sebastian Kippe on 2016-10-12 https://updates.kip.pe/2016/indiewebcamp-is-coming-to-berlin-nov-5-6-2016berlin-indieweb-redecentralize
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@skddc IndieWebCamp is coming to Berlin, Nov. 5-6: https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin #indieweb #redecentralize (twitter.com/_/status/786214462084841472)
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cweiske the trip is over now ;)
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snarfed cweiske: lol ok
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snarfed btw i assume you're familiar with https://instagram-atom.appspot.com/
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cweiske !tell no, I did not know about instagram-atom when I wrote instagram2micropub, but it would not work anyway - because the posts I wanted to get are private, and that appspot thingy only uses the official api which does not give you access to private posts
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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cweiske !tell snarfed no, I did not know about instagram-atom when I wrote instagram2micropub, but it would not work anyway - because the posts I wanted to get are private, and that appspot thingy only uses the official api which does not give you access to private posts
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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aaronpk it switched to scraping IIRC
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aaronpk same with ownyourgram
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cweiske ah
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no test
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Loqi no: cweiske left you a message on 2015-04-07 at 2:15am UTC: didn't check php-resque. I was happy with gearman. But now I just found out that I need scheduled tasks, which is something that neither gearman nor php-resque give me
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Loqi no: cweiske left you a message 4 minutes ago: did not know about instagram-atom when I wrote instagram2micropub, but it would not work anyway - because the posts I wanted to get are private, and that appspot thingy only uses the official api which does not give you access to private posts
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i asdf
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Loqi i: cweiske left you a message on 2015-07-23 at 9:15pm UTC: get a blank page when trying to sign into your page.
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Loqi i: cweiske left you a message 4 minutes ago: did not know about instagram-atom when I wrote instagram2micropub, but it would not work anyway - because the posts I wanted to get are private, and that appspot thingy only uses the official api which does not give you access to private posts
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aaronpk lol
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cweiske :)
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petermolnar !tell tantek I'm at the point where I'm about to use flickr for geo tagging some of my older images, because their drop-in UI is probably the least painful to use... and therefore I now understand your statement of using Instagram for posting.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek good morning #indieweb!
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Loqi tantek: petermolnar left you a message 16 minutes ago: I'm at the point where I'm about to use flickr for geo tagging some of my older images, because their drop-in UI is probably the least painful to use... and therefore I now understand your statement of using Instagram for posting.
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@HongPong I got a little documentation patch committed by @aaronpk into #indieweb mention-client-php to grok function params>> https://github.com/indieweb/mention-client-php (twitter.com/_/status/786230700705853440)
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tantek !tell petermolnar is your use of Flickr something you could document on /Flickr ? Would be interesting to capture the specific Why e.g. geo tagging
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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@sl007 @SOZIALHELDEN Ein "last minute" https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin ? - seid dabei ! (twitter.com/_/status/786232440461205508)
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@sl007 @kspremberg Ein "last minute" https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin ? - seid dabei ! (twitter.com/_/status/786233088762273792)
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tantek ^^^ good promo :)
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Zegnat sebilasse has been going ham on IWC promotion :D
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sebilasse tantek, Zegnat: My node.js scraped all the indieweb.org links for "Berlin" - also good interaction rate (attendance/visits) ;)
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sebilasse Also tried to reach some people I'd like to meet - but they are homies …
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Zegnat I am pretty disappointed I will not be able to attend :( So May in Nürnberg is next for me, probably
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tantek sebilasse: good work! I think IWC BER has a good chance of having more attendees than IWC LA!
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tantek it's going to be close :)
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snarfed !tell cweiske instagram-atom *used to* use the API, but it switched to scraping a while back when IG basically turned off that part of the API, so it does include private posts now
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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Loqi snarfed: cweiske left you a message 1 hour, 29 minutes ago: no, I did not know about instagram-atom when I wrote instagram2micropub, but it would not work anyway - because the posts I wanted to get are private, and that appspot thingy only uses the official api which does not give you access to private posts
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sebilasse tantek: Battle on. Let's get ready to rumble ;)
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tantek oh boy
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@t JA #IndieWebCamp BERLIN! 2016-11-05&06 @MozillaBerlin http://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin @leyink @_cberger_ @julians @crh @jhford (ttk.me t4jm1) (twitter.com/_/status/786255543618809861)
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tantek sknebel: ^^^ :D
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sknebel tantek: ok, thx. (don't know why I missed the original highlight, just saw loqis tell this evening)
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tantek np - that was my first post about it
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@ChrisAldrich While looking up one Michael Nelson (@phonedude_mln) for #DtMH2016, I found another interesting one @MikeNelson. #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/786262691241267200)
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Loqi [indieweb] "While looking up one Michael Nelson (@phonedude_mln) for #DtMH2016, I found another interesting one @MikeNelson. #indieweb" by Chris Aldrich on 2016-10-12 http://stream.boffosocko.com/2016/while-looking-up-one-michael-nelson-phonedude_mln-for-dtmh2016-i
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@m_ott @webrocker schließt das eigentlich ein #IndieWebCamp in Berlin ein? ;) https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin (twitter.com/_/status/786264174968053760)
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@sl007 @jugendhackt @Volksbuehne Ja. Und kommt dann 3 Wochen später zum https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin ?! (twitter.com/_/status/786267201896493057)
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@sl007 @ctretbar https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin ? (twitter.com/_/status/786267380125011968)
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@sl007 @dkreuz https://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin ? (twitter.com/_/status/786268216276332544)
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KevinMarks1 it's TWiG time - send me any good links to talk about
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Zegnat KevinMarks: plug the two upcoming IWCs? ;)
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tantek Yes
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KevinMarks1 of course, I was wondering if we had any demoable things
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@IndieWebCampDE ? Neu & heiß: Ein IndieWebCamp in Berlin am 5.-6. November, direkt vor dem https://accessibility-club.org/ und der @btconf ? http://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin (twitter.com/_/status/786309575821721600)
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tantek wat
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Zegnat KevinMarks1: maybe next time, I am working on some demo stuff
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tantek interesting "deletion" scenario challenge - (which I'm not sure we've seen yet or figured out how to best deal with) - when the creator of a collaborative document chooses to delete it - what's a "good" UX? (considering that having the doc disappear and delete other contributors' content is probably bad)
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tantek e.g. Google Docs just popped up a message for me on a spreadsheet:
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tantek "File is in owner's trash \ You will soon permanently lose access to this file.
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tantek For continued access, please make a copy."
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tantek also I saw "Loqi: incompatible encoding" in my IRC client for this line https://chat.indieweb.org/2016-10-12/1476305789789000
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Loqi [IndieWebCampDE] ? Neu & heiß: Ein IndieWebCamp in Berlin am 5.-6. November, direkt vor dem https://accessibility-club.org/ und der @btconf ? http://indieweb.org/2016/Berlin...
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tantek hah - it did it again
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aaronpk get a better irc client?
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tantek yep
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tantek continued on that Google alert
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tantek "Comments will not be copied to the new document."
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tantek ^^^ interesting
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tantek [ ] Share it with the same people
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tantek [ Make a copy ] [ Go to Sheets home screen ]
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tantek so if someone deletes a shared document, you can make a copy (you own) and share with the same set of people. which sorta makes sense and sorta seems passive aggressive?
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tantek though I don't have a better suggestion
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sebilasse sknebel: Krass. Jetzt sind 24 (!) Tickets raus, aber manche kriegen es nicht hin, den Namen ins Wiki zu packen.
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Zegnat sebilasse, is it because of IndieAuth that they are unable to get their name in?
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Zegnat isn’t even going to try to say that in German :p
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Zegnat Hopefully Marc can tease some more people onto the wiki (as he said in a comment on https://www.facebook.com/joschi.kuphal/posts/989420624502617)
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sebilasse Zegnat: Yes, he will send a mail to the ticket people next week. Btw: For DEC I write a proposal to german public broadcaster ndr for a nice media coverage about indieweb. I am pretty sure we could do something for e.g. Zapp - an interview with aaronpk or tantek would come in handy but it is not urgent …
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Zegnat sebilasse: interesting! keep us posted, I would watch that. If I can help out in any way, you know where to find me
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Zegnat I am off for be. Good night y’all!
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Loqi sleep tight!
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sebilasse aaronpk: Let's say I have an OAuth "login with twitter" button on the page and you click it and I discover that your
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sebilasse twitter profile has a rel="me" link which rel-me-links-back - couldn't I consider that rel-me-link in the twitter profile to start the IndieAuth flow ?
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sebilasse Wouldn't that be an alternative to URL entering ?
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tantek I like where this reasoning is going
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tantek teaching users to start using their own URL as their identity
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aaronpk sebilasse: hah yes! nice
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KevinMarks1 ooh, that is a good extension of the distributed auth thing
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bear nifty feature of github that I totally missed - https://github.com/blog/2252-license-now-displayed-on-repository-overview
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sebilasse off topic - vogue is starting free mail - registered sebi@voguemail.com - apart from a 29 yet : Save the Mail. http://www.voguemail.de
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tantek free email sounds like, please give us control over your identity (ala hotmail yahoomail, gmail etc.)