#indieweb 2016-11-13

2016-11-13 UTC
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[kevinmarks] Their form is illegible because too grey and makes me type http
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tantek kevinmarks, I think you have some forms that make me type http ;)
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[kevinmarks] I do, yes
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KartikPrabhu [kevinmarks] yes their form is a bit illegible due to font colout
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KartikPrabhu colour*
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GWG Good day, Indieweb Campers
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petermolnar does anyone have any design notes how sup and sub are styled with CSS for better readability?
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@calum_ryan ? Homebrew Website Club London Nov 16th 18:30 https://calumryan.com/event/hwc-20161116/ https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-16-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/797867796050821120)
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tantek hello #indieweb!
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tantek is anyone else automatically pinging Internet Archive to archive things they link to? https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#Trigger_an_Archive
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aaronpk I added support for that in Brighton!
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GWG petermolnar was doing it in his webmentions plugin a while back
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tantek aaronpk - did that captured on the demo page for that IWC?
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tantek GWG, do you know when he deployed it?
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GWG Not sure.
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GWG But I remember seeing it a few months back when I was looking for alternative ideas to improve the more used plugin
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tantek GWG, is that the same plugin that you run?
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aaronpk hm it didn't make it to the demo page but i thought i mentioned it
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GWG tantek: No.
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tantek GWG, do these different plugins have unique names we can use to refer to them instead of just by author?
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GWG The WordPress Webmention plugin is the older one, the one originally created by pfefferle.
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GWG petermolnar's is the Webmention Again plugin
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GWG According to the github repo, the feature was added 2016-07-09
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GWG https://github.com/petermolnar/wp-webmention-again
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GWG I also created two Webmention plugins that were forks of the Webmention plugin to experiment with various features.
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GWG However, I still run and contribute to the main one.
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GWG So a lot of my changes are backported.
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tantek !tell adactio when did you start automatically pinging archive.org to archive your bookmarks (the actual entire pages you linked to) in this way? https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#Trigger_an_Archive
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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GWG The two I created with Webmentions and More...which I'm going to retire. And Linkbacks, which merged Pingback support in.
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aaronpk adactio did that at brighton too
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GWG And tried to use php-comments as a backend.
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aaronpk at least according to the demo page
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aaronpk https://indieweb.org/2016/Brighton/Demos#Jeremy_Keith
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tantek awesome! can you update the page with date and citation(s)?
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tantek is scrambling to write code at Science Hack Day
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tantek and what was that WordPress plugin that auto-archived pages you linked to, but using your own server
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sknebel tantek: owark, mentioned on https://indieweb.org/archival_copy
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tantek sknebel: thanks! do you know if that plugin also pings archive.org?
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tantek and are any WordPress people running it on their site?
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tantek GWG?
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GWG Not me.
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sknebel no idea
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tantek aaronpk: is there a PHP gist for calling curl for https://indieweb.org/Internet_Archive#Trigger_an_Archive ?
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tantek is trying to be as lazy as possible
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tantek as in something which takes a $url_to_archive and then does it
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tantek what is Webmention Again?
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Loqi It looks like we don't have a page for "Webmention Again" yet. Would you like to create it?
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tantek GWG ^^^ ?
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petermolnar tantek are you sure a simple little wp plugin needs a separate page? :)
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petermolnar it's mentioned on WordPress/Plugins as an alternative
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petermolnar and since I'm still in limbo wether or not I want to keep my site on WP, it may or may not be discontinued
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petermolnar what is wget?
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Loqi wget is a unix utility for recursively downloading and archiving webpages https://indieweb.org/wget
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petermolnar what is warc?
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Loqi WARC is a web archive (Web ARChive) format designed to collect all of the resources that make up a web page into a single item that does not require any external references when opened https://indieweb.org/WARC
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tantek petermolnar: yes, especially since in first reference it was referred to generically instead of by name
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aaronpk I think my version uses file get contents instead of curl :-P talk about lazy
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tantek wait does that mean it just calls through to the command line?
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