#indieweb 2016-11-14

2016-11-14 UTC
gRegorLove, snarfed, ricardokirkner, wolftune, plainfingers, pindonga, tantek, 18WAARGZE, catsup, sl007 and cweiske joined the channel
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cweiske aaronpk, before you go to bed: I've got a couple of commits for chat.indieweb.org that I find useful - https://github.com/cweiske/chat.indieweb.org/commits/master
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Loqi cweiske: gRegorLove left you a message 2 days, 10 hours ago: Something weird going on with joins: http://indiechat.search.cweiske.de/index.php?q=nick%3Agregor%60&page=2
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cweiske gRegorLove, the joins are set to "noindex" but the html attribute was wrong, so phinde still indexed them
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cweiske and since they have no h-entry as the "normal" chat lines, the full content of the page was put into index
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cweiske aaronpk, i guess you won't like "make day page valid + wellformed" commit, but the rest are useful
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sl007 cweiske aaronpk - I wonder if it wouldn't be possible to have a good web based IRC client on chat.indieweb.org as an extension to the logs. I'll try out some, e.g. https://github.com/prawnsalad/KiwiIRC …
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cweiske https://github.com/indieweb/chat.indieweb.org/issues/2
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sl007 hoorayed and subscribed.
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@IndieWebCampDE ? Der nächste Homebrew Website Club in Nürnberg trifft sich am 23. November ? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-23-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/798100140120678400)
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@jkphl ? The Homebrew Website Club Nuremberg will meet again on November 23rd ? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-23-homebrew-website-club (twitter.com/_/status/798100371960786944)
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@derhess New blog post with my notes about the @IndieWebCampDE in #Berlin http://derhess.de/2016/11/14/summary-of-the-indie-web-camp-in-berlin-2016/ great time with a great @indiewebcamp community! (twitter.com/_/status/798103979674783744)
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ben_thatmustbeme good morning IndieWeb
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@jkphl ? Finally: My photos of @indiewebcamp Berlin 2016 are online. Thx to @iwontsignuphere for editing! https://flic.kr/s/aHskGyLPr1 #indieweb (twitter.com/_/status/798185412279746560)
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aaronpk sl007: i'm about half way through re-implementing the web chat interface on chat.indieweb.org
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aaronpk and no kiwiirc or any of the typical ones are not good enough
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@IndieWebCampDE ? Hier sind @jkphl's Fotos vom @indiewebcamp Berlin vorletztes Wochendende: https://flic.kr/s/aHskGyLPr1 Danke an @iwontsignuphere für's Editing! (twitter.com/_/status/798185786092961792)
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sl007 aaronpk that's cool !
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aaronpk it's also the same code that the Slack bridge uses to merge Slack and IRC
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aaronpk so that will enable the multi-channel Slack bridge once I finish
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cweiske .
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tantek !tell Jeena HWC Göteborg this week? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-16-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell ChrisAldrich HWC LA this week? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-16-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek !tell KevinMarks,benwerd HWC SF this week? Did you get in touch with sdepolo / GoDaddy? https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-16-homebrew-website-club#Where
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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bear peeks in
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tantek interesting real-world usability challenge for POSSEing: https://twitter.com/denials/status/798186369285636096
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@denials God I hate Twitter's ridiculous character limits/math. 125 chars + 1 image > 140 chars I guess. Or maybe @withknown truncated. Dunno. Bah. (twitter.com/_/status/798186369285636096)
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tantek this is the tweet being referenced implicitly (that got undesirably and unpredictably truncated) https://twitter.com/denials/status/798185328620146688
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@denials Used Signal to tell @copystar she won @olitassoc VP last year. Be safe w/ encrypted text &… http://thunk.coffeecode.ca/2016/used-signal-to-tell-copystar-she-won-olitassoc-vp-last https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CxO5Ur0VIAAKbo5.png (twitter.com/_/status/798185328620146688)
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snarfed yes, 125 chars + 1 image > 140 chars indeed
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miklb and if you aren't using bridgy nolink then its definitely an issue.
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snarfed images are urls so they cost 23 chars
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tantek I thought images didn't count against the limit any more
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snarfed exact rollout for those changes has seemed unclear and complicated
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miklb I think only if you upload them as an attachment to the tweet, not if linking to external images?
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tantek miklb still an issue because if the message is too long to fit, then it gets truncated even further to include the URL to the original
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tantek miklb linking to external images has zero effect (beyond being a link) on Twitter
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miklb tantek well, yes, if you aren't aware of the character count overage
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tantek Twitter does nothing with links to .png .jpeg etc.
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tantek unlike FB which does show them as part of its /link-preview algorithm
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snarfed although even if images don't count any more, there's also the OP link. hence miklb's point about bridgy publish w/omit link
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tantek snarfed, will bridgy publish with omit link truncate without linking also?
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snarfed tantek: yes if it has to
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tantek seems like there's three possible behaviors then. always link, link only if content must be truncated, never link
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tantek which does bridgy do for the boolean omit link?
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snarfed yes, bridgy supports at least those three
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snarfed https://brid.gy/about#omit-link
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tantek "true" | "maybe" ?
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tantek first I've heard of the "maybe" option
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tantek alright, I've heard nothing about any other HWCs this week besides London so that's all I'm going to add to the Moz weekly meeting notes
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tantek Jeena, ChrisAldrich, KevinMarks, benwerd - last change
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tantek s/change/chance
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tantek https://indieweb.org/events/2016-11-16-homebrew-website-club#Where
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tantek hmm, looks like benwerd may be in DC: https://twitter.com/withknown/status/798187161141018624
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@withknown If you're at #elearnconf today, Known co-founder @benwerd is speaking about creating user-centered learning networks at 1:30 pm. (twitter.com/_/status/798187161141018624)
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tantek happy to learn that @withknown is "just" POSSEd from stream.withknown.com: http://stream.withknown.com/2016/if-youre-at-elearnconf-today-known-co-founder-benwerd-is-speaking
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Loqi If you're at #elearnconf today, Known co-founder @benwerd is speaking about creating user-centered learning networks at 1:30 pm.
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tantek no word from Bellingham, Birgmingham this week either right?
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tantek well then, just London it is
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gRegorLove tantek: Bellingham is on hiatus through the end of the year
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KartikPrabhu looks like twitter is having trouble again "Something is technically wrong."
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KartikPrabhu oh fixed and back
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cweiske today I saw the flickr error page
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cweiske http://fotos.cweiske.de/screenshots/2016-11-14%20flickr%20fail.png
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cweiske "bad bad panda"
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tantek worth uploading and noting on /Twitter and /Flickr respectively with date-time of outage (and estimated length)
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tantek !tell gRegorLove how did Baltimore get replicated to every HWC event for the rest of the year here? https://indieweb.org/Events do you know?
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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tantek anyone from Baltimore here?
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gRegorLove Don't know
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Loqi gRegorLove: tantek left you a message 1 minute ago: how did Baltimore get replicated to every HWC event for the rest of the year here? https://indieweb.org/Events do you know?
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gRegorLove Probably "easily" :)
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[schmarty] hello, yes
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[schmarty] tantek: I'm co-organizer for Baltimore HWC
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[schmarty] we're still meeting only once per month at the moment. next meeting 11/30.
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gRegorLove tantek: https://indieweb.org/wiki/index.php?title=Events&oldid=31837
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[schmarty] updated /Events for Baltimore accuracy. our meetings for 2016 are Nov 30, Dec 14th.
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tantek thanks schmarty!
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[barryf] tantek: Thanks very much for adding a page for Transformative. I've fleshed it out with a bit more detail.
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tantek np barryf. feel free to add it to /projects when you think it's ready to have others try it out!
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[barryf] Will do. It might not be fully polished but it feels good to get it out in the wild.
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[barryf] !tell aaronpk I've submitted a webmention PR for /Transformative when you've got a second to check.
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Loqi Ok, I'll tell them that when I see them next
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plainfingers :qa
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plainfingers \q
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tantek IWC MIT2 in two days!!!
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gRegorLove I want to add ProcessWire to /projects but it's somewhere between "Get Inspired" and "Take a Chance"
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gRegorLove The author actively dogfoods it in his professional work. His personal site is currently offline, probably because it was a ProcessWire blog he hadn't updated in years.
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KartikPrabhu gRegorLove: so i think that would make it "take a chance" ?
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gRegorLove I don't really think so
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KartikPrabhu your call
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gRegorLove I consider it at about WordPress level as far as functionality and dependeability, it just doesn't have as many indieweb extensions yet
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KartikPrabhu is it as widely used as Wordpress or Known?
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gRegorLove No
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KartikPrabhu yeah, that is a tricky situation
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gRegorLove 2 active indiewebbers, that I know of.
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gRegorLove I think I'll leave it off for now.
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gRegorLove Put a note on my list to work on an indieweb Site Profile that can be installed. I think that'd be better before it's on the list.
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